Mrmichaelt wrote: Stay strong, BETJ. We'll get through it somehow...
Marvelus wrote: We are with you man.
I've seen it now. Ridiculous.
I'm also not sure whether we should place the 85 months ago flashback 85 months ago or 97 months ago. 85 would be specifically because it says 85, 97 because all other flashbacks are + 12 to what they say. I think I'm leaning towards just 85 as it says.
DaenerysTheMadKhal58 wrote: Are they really that bad at keeping up with the timeline or are they trying to retcon so that the explosion was 7 years before Season 1? I don't see any reason why they would want to do that, so it must be the former.
Exactly, there's no reason. It's just stupid. Just so stupid.
The show also this year has established Tyrone as 9 at the time of the accident and 18 now, meaning it is at least 8 years, 1 day since the accident. So even in this season alone it couldn't be 7 years, 8 months.
Rman823 wrote: Just ugh: https://screenrant.com/cloak-dagger-mcu-timeline-luke-cage-easter-egg/
To quote Luke Skywalker, "Amazing. Every word of what you just said was wrong."
I wish they would do more research.
Mrmichaelt wrote: So just clarifying 2 things from "Blue Note". I haven't seen Luke Cage season 2 yet but from what I gather - Karen Page's article is in reference to a battle between Luke and Bushmaster? And I guess it will be concluded Solomon had an out of date newspaper since LC S2 ended in September 2017 but C&D S2 is during November 2017. EDIT: I remembered reading in LC S2 ep 8 Misty mentioned Brigid had moved to New Orleans around the time Brigid mentioned her past work during whatever ep. of C&D that was.
I've seen the episode now - the clip pre-episode didn't include that it was Karen Page. That makes things a bit more complicated, since Karen would've been fired just days before this. However, having seen the full scene I also think it's fine. Tyrone says something like "I don't know this one", like this is isn't necessarily today's paper. If it's a few days old, which certainly happens in cafes in the U.K. at least, it's fine.
I don't think it's a Bushmaster reference because we're almost 2 months on from Luke Cage: Season 2, I think it's just something Luke has done in Harlem recently off-screen. I think the Screen Rant article makes the mistake of trying to assume it's a specific event from the show. I really don't think that this reference is meant to be read into too much, and that it's just supposed to be something post-Luke Cage: Season 2 because it's a throwaway reference that isn't supposed to confuse audiences, just fit with "Oh this is something that happened since I last saw Luke".
Luke has become a bit more shady by the end of Season 2 but he still wants to be the hero of Harlem, just through some dodgy means at times. I think it works fairly OK.
Nox23 wrote: Ooh wow just got done watching the new Cloak and Dagger and I definitely think the show pulled a Sony with those unavoidably wrong timestamps. I wouldn't see it as too far a stretch that the newspaper isn't super current, maybe Solomon had kept it for a while and took it out now during this crisis of ethics. Or maybe Luke's crime boss ways only lasted a month.
I sure do hope the timestamps can just be ignored. I spent last night cutting together the first 4 episodes into the rest of the MCU and it was so much work lining up events from the season 2 premiere with the Iron Fist finale and Daredevil 306. The nonlinear storytelling in 202 didn't help matters either. Then I watch Blue Note and I'm really hoping the the show doesn't shift itself and render all that work completely fruitless. Though it was cool peppering Mayhem and the 242/236/200/122/etc day flashbacks into the other 2017 events.
As much as I prefer Marvel to Sony, don't let Marvel off the hook on this one. Sony get the blame for that, but Kevin Feige talked about it being intentional and, somehow, thought through. And there's no reason Sony would have been the ones to put that, especially when there's a line of dialogue as well so it couldn't just be a mistake from the edit.
I think the newspaper is from the last month at some point, and yeah, I think Luke still does some jobs around town, but he spends a lot of his time being a crime boss. New York also, at least as of September, didn't see him as a crime boss - they still saw him as a hero and were writing raps to celebrate him and everything.
Give me another day or two and the notes for Cloak & Dagger: Season 2, Episodes 1-8 will be completed, including the timings for the non-linear events. There's some temporary stuff up on the draft page currently but I've realised I made a few mistakes and am redoing it.
But as for the exact order of overlapping events of Iron Fist: Season 2, Daredevil: Season 3, and Cloak & Dagger: Season 2 - we will get to that. We haven't had to work that out yet because we haven't been writing those events up.
Marvelus wrote: Yeah. That "8 years thing" was just Marvel. Not Sony.
I think it is definitely an old newspaper. I am worried that C&D might want to use the dste from the pilot which dates 1st season around 2015
Marvelus and I are on the same wavelength about not letting Marvelus off on this one.
I don't think it's that old a newspaper, just the last month or so. And again, no, I don't think this reference is supposed to be particularly read into.
Nox23 wrote: Oh yeah, I guess marvel did have full production control over homecoming, so definitely their bad then. I have to think there's a show Bible that could avoid stuff like this but man it's definitely annoying
The show in both seasons has been appalling in its timeline consistency.
Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote: It's just a generic "Luke Saves Harlem" headline, I believe. So it could really be referring to anything.
Exactly. I think just a recent small event. It's the New York Bulletin they're reading so it doesn't have to be an event of big enough scale to have made national news.
By the way guys, at 31 minutes you see a poster for a Halloween event (there's actually a continuity error where it changes position between shots), which does fit with the correct time of year, since it's very early November (probably just left the poster up a bit too late).