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Article won't be splitted.
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James Gunn stated multiple times that Baby/Teen Groot is a new, separate individual with no memory of the first one, simply called by the same name for a convinience. I believe this article should be split into two - one to describe original Groot who died and another to describe his offspring, because they are totally different individuals. --HBK123 (talk) 08:11, November 30, 2017 (UTC)
- I agree it should be split in two, but what do you think the new Groot article would be called? Baby Groot? Adolescent Groot? New Groot? Also, I'd make sure the admins agree before actually doing it. SwagMasterDbl (talk) 08:32, November 30, 2017 (UTC)
- The article will not be split in two because Kevin Feige clearly says that "the two Groots" are the same individual.([1]) --UskokS.H.I.E.L.D. Headquarters - Playground 14:58, November 30, 2017 (UTC)
- Well James Gunn knows more about his own characters than Kevin Feige does (I mean, he wrote them), and James Gunn has said multiple times (in fact even just yesterday, when he was answering Q&A questions) that they're seperate entities and that he does not remember the events of Vol. 1. ([2]) I don't wanna fight or anything but I do think James Gunn is to be believed over Kevin Feige on this one. SwagMasterDbl (talk) 15:12, November 30, 2017 (UTC)
- The article will not be split in two because Kevin Feige clearly says that "the two Groots" are the same individual.([1]) --UskokS.H.I.E.L.D. Headquarters - Playground 14:58, November 30, 2017 (UTC)
In the hypothetical case that both appear simultaneously and their biography starts to diverge, we'll reconsider this issue. For the time being, a single article is the most logical choice.--Shabook (talk) 19:07, January 4, 2018 (UTC)
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Split Article II[]
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As stated above...
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- Does this help? ([3]) SwagMasterDbl (talk) 02:08, February 28, 2018 (UTC)
- I came in to chime on this as well. Director James Gunn has tweeted today about how he has to constantly tweet every few months about how the two Groots are different, stating that Baby Groot is Groot's son; they are not the same individual, and that Groot from Vol. 1 died at the end, and the death had impact. Might I also mention that he also tweeted that it was "canon af" - with these statements, I think the page should be split into two - for the two Groots. MJLogan95 (talk) 02:34, February 28, 2018 (UTC)
I agree to the split; Groot for original and Groot II for son.BananaClownMan (talk) 16:22, March 3, 2018 (UTC)
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Split Article III[]
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With the new implementation of Variants and the Multiverse and split beings like Vision/White Vision, I think this finally warrants a split between the Groot we first met in Vol 1 and his offpsring who we've come to know as Baby/Teen Groot. Some of the previous discussions have mentioned not knowing what to title the pages or anything, but in that time the universe and the wiki have both expanded to answer those questions. If this Wiki is splitting White Vision and Vision as two different characters then so should the two Groots. I personally believe that those two are the same being but that's not what this page is discussing, and even so a greater comparison could be made between Vision and Wanda's recreated version. Completely different bodies and memories, just like the two Groots. I think by this time it'd be adequate to create "Hub:Groot" and split this article into "Groot" and "Groot/Offspring". ShinxBoy1 (talk) 08:52, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
Reason for Not Splitting[]
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Do NOT reopen this particular subject
Post-Archive Admin Addendum: Overruled by new administration. Page split into Groot (Original) and Groot {{{sig}}}
Kevin Feige, whose authority over the MCU outranks everybody, confirmed that Groot is the same individual despite his apparent death and physical changes. I Am Groot confirmed that Groot has memories of his past life, and the series is fully established as an MCU product despite James Gunn's prior claims of its non-canonicity. Therefore, and also considering that given he grew again from a part of Groot's body and therefore fully shares his genetic material, this wiki considers Groot as the same individual in a single article.
As of the release of Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 and without further media in the horizon that may provide new information, this decission to not split the article is final.
Do NOT reopen this particular subject.--Shabook (talk) 15:08, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
- Overruled. James Gunn gave his reasoning for why Groot drew a picture from the Battle of Xandar, and Kevin Feige's quote was from before Vol. 2. Page has now been split in two. • MJLogan95 | Message Wall • Contributions 21:38, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
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