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War is a state of armed conflict between autonomous organizations (such as states and non-state actors) or coalitions of such organizations. It is generally characterized by extreme collective aggression, destruction, and usually high mortality. (reference)
I propose here the rename of this page since what happened on the event doesn't fall into the definition of the word "War"... So here are some of my suggestions:
- Killian's Coup Attempt
- False Mandarin Episode
- Extremis Incident
Feel free to give your opinion and propose more names if you like.--Blaublau94 (talk) 20:41, April 24, 2015 (UTC)
- If any, this should be renamed to "Aldrich Killian's Campaign". All the names you propose are worse than the current one.Shabook (talk) 20:44, April 24, 2015 (UTC)
- Campanign.. on what? Like a War Campaign?--Blaublau94 (talk) 20:48, April 24, 2015 (UTC)
- Like Johann Fennhoff's Revenge Plot Shabook (talk) 20:51, April 24, 2015 (UTC)
- I agree with Shabook's proposal.--UskokHail HYDRA! 05:54, April 25, 2015 (UTC)
- Again... Campaign on what? "Campaign" is not being used correctly here because if you want to mean something like "expedition" it becomes a very vague term, and if you want to mean "war campaign" it's has nothing to do with what happened on the movies, I did not even know we had a page with this name here. I know my suggestions are not the perfect, but "Campaign" it's really awful compared to the ones I wrote and I was writing the article at the time I came up with them.
- I agree with Shabook's proposal.--UskokHail HYDRA! 05:54, April 25, 2015 (UTC)
- Like Johann Fennhoff's Revenge Plot Shabook (talk) 20:51, April 24, 2015 (UTC)
- Campanign.. on what? Like a War Campaign?--Blaublau94 (talk) 20:48, April 24, 2015 (UTC)
- We could also split the article just like HYDRA Uprising and War on HYDRA like:
- "Mandarin" Bombings or "Mandarin" Lessons and
- War on Terror (a line Killian says on the movie)--Blaublau94 (talk) 06:22, April 25, 2015 (UTC)
- But the War on Terror is a real conflict, just like World War II, an I'm sure it wasn't led by Killian.--UskokHail HYDRA! 06:44, April 25, 2015 (UTC)
- Yeah, I heard what he said again: "...a hole new War on Terror..." - Kilian's War on Terror maybe?--Blaublau94 (talk) 06:53, April 25, 2015 (UTC)
- I vote for the Campaign one. I see a campaign (a personal campaign) as someone who sets out with a goal and tries to do things for it. Like Johann Fennhoff, like Aldrich Killian, and a bunch load in AoS episodes.TomasDerksen (talk) 12:52, May 4, 2015 (UTC)
If nobody else is interested in this rename, the conversation will be archived and the page will keep its current name.--Shabook (talk) 15:37, July 4, 2015 (UTC)
- I say Campaign. In terms of consistency, this wiki uses "War" when there are "battles" within that war. "Marauders' War", the only example i found similarly written to this, has the Battle of Vanaheim. This fits closer to Johann Fennhoff's Campaign, a single man's vendetta.Bratpack (talk) 15:45, July 4, 2015 (UTC)
- I forgot the kidnapping and the Norco. I still say "Campaign", though...Bratpack (talk) 15:49, July 4, 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, all articles in the "Wars" category need to have more than one "battle" or "major event". Its structure doesn't change no matter they are named wars, campaigns or any other name.--Shabook (talk) 15:53, July 4, 2015 (UTC)
- Months later from the original proposal, are we moving forward with this?Bratpack (talk) 11:30, July 13, 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, all articles in the "Wars" category need to have more than one "battle" or "major event". Its structure doesn't change no matter they are named wars, campaigns or any other name.--Shabook (talk) 15:53, July 4, 2015 (UTC)
- I'll go for "Extremis Incident". It is a good title because it reflects the main theme of the movie (Extremis), and I think campaign would be too light a term for what happened during this. OkCalis (talk) 15:36, July 17, 2015 (UTC)
- Is the thread still open? OkCalis (talk) 12:38, August 11, 2015 (UTC)
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Haven't noticed that before (haven't watched Iron Man 3 for a while), but when he speaks with Vice President Rodriguez, Stark calls this "the Mandarin campaign". Of course, at that moment he didn't know what this "Mandarin" really was, so I propose we rename this article "Fake Mandarin Campaign".--UskokS.H.I.E.L.D. Headquarters 12:40, September 22, 2015 (UTC)
- I'm not sure. That name was given by Stark when he believed what was happening was "merely" a series of terrorist acts by an individual (the Mandarin) against the United States. However, the true events are much more complicated than that. "Fake Mandarin Campaign" would simply suggest that another terrorist launched the attacks, with the same purpose, but instead of saying he was, for example, Abu Nazir, Haissam Haqqani or any other terrorist, he said "I am the Mandarin". I think that Aldrich Killian's name is essential for this event.--Shabook (talk) 13:01, September 22, 2015 (UTC)
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I have posted a proposal to rename this article to Aldrich Killian's Campaign on the Playground community forum. Any contributions there would be appreciated. NickM98 (talk) 07:11, May 6, 2018 (UTC)
- Rename proposals for specific articles do not belong in the Playground, but in the specific Talk pages. As for this page, as stated above, Killian called it specifically a War, while Stark's claim of the Mandarin campaign came before he actually knew what was happening, so its validity is questionable at best. Sorry, but if no new info or new sources are available, its current name is better than those, maybe not the best, but best one available.--Shabook (talk) 10:53, May 6, 2018 (UTC)
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