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Shabook

Bureaucrat Admin
  • I live in Spain
  • I was born on December 20
  • My occupation is Bureaucrat (Marvel Cinematic Universe Wiki), Content Moderator (Marvel Database)
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  • On Sunday, I had a confrontation with another user. What I did was I added details to the Family part of the Relationships category of the characters T’Challa/Black Panther, Erik Killmonger, & Shuri.

    I have Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, or OCD, which means that I like things a certain way.

    One user, Christhewalrus, kept undoing my details & said that they weren’t necessary. When I messaged him originally it was angry, but then I sent another 1 in a calmer manner, telling him to stop & that I have OCD. His reply was a rude & sarcastic apology.

    I’m sorry for what happened.

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  • ¿Eres español?, es que como veo que vives en España o eso pone en tu cabecera...es una duda que me ha surgido.

    Are you spanish?, I see that you lives in Spain in your heading, it's a question that I have.

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    • I understand you, if I wasn't so purist about Spanish dubbing I surely wouldn't have come here ... but what happened happened and I don't want to disassociate myself from the MCU, luckily I have seen the English version in clips, so this is a real option for me .

      This message I would recommend leaving it open, so that when there are doubts I will not have to open a new topic again and I can ask you here.

      Black Sharks: Yeyeyey, ¿Todo Bien? (talk) 11:08, March 31, 2020 (UTC)

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    • You can ask whenever you need it. All messages will leave the same kind of alert, new and old.

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  • Hey Shabook, just another edit warrer and vandal, keeps adding unneeded info to relationship sections. Also says that he has "OCD" so he needs them to be that way and decided he wants to use that as his excuse to edit war. (The thread)

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    • Ok, but I'm gonna ask you to change a bit the way you talk to edit warrers.

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  • Talk: Devil's Torture Chamber

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    • Could anyone please point me in the right direction? This entire experience I'm having is not very friendly to new editors.

      Deleted. Why? I'm not telling. Why? ... Admin, can you help? This is not wikipedia What should I do Read the rules, all of them. :(

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    • What should I do Read the rules, all of them. :(

      That's exactly what you have to do. If you consider that having to follow the rules of a site is "unfriendly", what can I say...

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  • Hello Shabook,

    With everything going on, I hope you're doing OK. Wishing you well in this time.

    I've had some questions I've been meaning to ask admins for a while, so I've split them between you and Nerdtastic1221. I hope you don't mind me just asking a few things.

    1. As a content moderator, I've had to rename a few pages, and it asks about leaving a redirect. I'm assuming, based on the redirect policy, that the system is to leave a redirect if it's a rename just due to a development in the MCU, and not leave a redirect if it's just correcting something like a spelling error? But I just wanted to check. And also, generally there is a rule about not editing someone else's user page, but is that overruled for correcting links after a redirect?
    2. Something I've noticed and mentioned to some users is that in the last year or so, some MCU actors' photos have shown up in the MCU. For example, a magazine with Chadwick Boseman on the cover is shown in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.: Season 6, and pictures of Richard Madden, Peter Dinklage, Daniel Brühl, Gwyneth Paltrow, and Liv Tyler were shown in Jessica Jones: Season 3. Plus, Miley Cyrus is referenced in Runaways: Season 3. I wondered if this kind of thing might be included in the trivia section of pages? If so, would it be the episodes' pages, the actors' pages, or both?
    3. On the "Timeline" page, there is a horizontal line essentially representing New Year 2014-2015, which was kindly put on following a suggestion of mine, as it delineates the start of the definite period after which the Netflix shows and Cloak & Dagger/Runaways begin to be set. With the end of the Marvel Television era, and those shows coming to an end by 2018 in the timeline, I wondered if it would make sense to draw another line under those shows, just like how there is one above, essentially representing New Year 2018-2019?
    4. I wanted to just ask why this cannot be included in the Snap page, as it's true that it's also known as the Blip. In Spider-Man: Far from Home, the characters discuss the Blip, referring primarily to the Snap and/or the whole 5-year period. Kevin Feige established that the nomenclature moving forward for fans would be "Snap" for Thanos 2018 and "Blip" for Hulk 2023, but surely that doesn't change the fact that the Snap has also been called the Blip? Is it just to avoid confusion?
    5. Some TV episodes have titles not matching the title case formatting in the wiki policy (plus some not matching the formatting of the official title, like "3 AM" instead of "3AM"). Is this something worth looking at and potentially doing (I'd be happy to do it myself if so) something about over time?
    6. The title for Spider-Man: Far from Home on the wiki is formatted against the wiki policy, using a capital F for "From" instead of title case, which uses "from". The naming policy specifically includes "from" as a word not to be capitalised. Should something be done about this at some point?
    7. It strikes me that the wiki seems to be operating off of unconfirmed information regarding the Fantastic Four. Kevin Feige's specific San Diego Comic-Con quote was: "I didn't even have time to talk about the Fantastic Four, and there's no time left to talk about mutants." All that confirms it that the Fantastic Four characters are on the way - not necessarily a film centred around them. There had separately been rumours of a Fantastic Four film, but only rumours. I have hunted for a source and asked around on the wiki, but no one that I can find has a source directly from Marvel that a Fantastic Four film is actually happening. Now, sure, they're big characters so will most likely get a film, but we seem to be only working off an assumption about this so far. What are your thoughts about this, and whether something needs to be done?
    8. I have a couple of potential questions regarding some formatting/layout/page names with the "2021" and "2028" pages only being for content regarding alternate versions of the timeline, and the "2091" page only being for content regarding another universe. I wanted to come to you first to see if you wanted to be asked about it (in which case, I would elaborate and explain), as I know the timeline pages are low priority wiki pages and you may have little interest, but at the same time I didn't want to presume and in any way bypass you. So, should I ask you about this? Or should I take this to Nerdtastic1221, or should I just sort this myself?
    9. Is there any particular reason why some blog posts can be commented on and some can't? I'm just curious about how that works.

    Thank you very much. Again, wishing you and your loved ones well.

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    • Hi BEJT

      It's my 13th day of isolation/quarantine. Thankfully everyone is OK, and I hope the same for you.

      Let's go with the answers:

      1. Yes, redirects are meant only in the cases explained in the policy. Redirects left from a rename plagued the wiki years ago and took a lot of effort to clean them up. Spelling mistakes are the prime examples of redirects that should NOT exist. As they allow to be easier the spelling mistake to be around. An example that comes to my mind was when a lot of pages had the Winter "Solider" mistake in their texts. Obviously, maintenance can be applied to every pages, including user pages, so as long as you don't change the information and only fix/remove the links, it is fine to edit these pages.
      2. Check the Jeff Bridges to a reference that dates back to the first season of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.. I'm most inclined just to be kept in the actors' pages, but not exactly sure about this.
      3. I stopped checking the "Timeline" page looong ago. I trust entirely that you, as a Content Moderator, would apply the rules and limits for the Timeline area of the wiki, even if you don't particulary agree with some of them on a personal level. So if you think something is an improvement and doesn't violate anything, give it a go.
      4. In order to avoid confusion, the fact that the Snap was also called the Blip and later "retconned" is kept just in the Behind the Scenes section because, according to Feige, both terms are, right now, not interchangeable
      5. In some cases, the episodes titles cannot be formatted due to wiki particular coding, such as Soul Brother #1. If you wish to tale a look at them, be my guest.
      6. Spider-Man: Far From Home uses that specific capitalization in its name, and given it is an official and proper name, that's the one we use.
      7. The lesser evil that will solve us countless edit wars. Do you know that I had to protect Venom, Silver and Black, X-Men and every other Marvel movie is remotely talked about because there are always people willing to create the articles just for the sake of its creation?
      8. Not interested in Timeline issues. Not anymore. It has been my biggest headache in the seven years since I joined this wiki, and the further I am from them, the better. Sort it yourself, that's why you are a Content Moderator.
      9. The owner of the blog posts can decide if comments are allowed or not just by clicking on a box in the upper right corner of the editing area.

      Hope this helps. Stay safe.

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    • I'm glad to hear you're OK. We're a few days in here, and yeah, things are OK, thanks.

      1. Thanks. Just wanted to check.
      2. Alright, thanks. I'll probably add them to the actor pages soon.
      3. Thank you very much for that freedom.
      4. Fair enough.
      5. OK, thanks. I have a blog piece that I've been slowly working on between other bits of work which involves researching the exact official titles for episodes, so I might leave it until I'm done with that and then revisit this.
      6. I assume you're referring to the logo. I personally don't put much stock in that, given the capitalised "E" in "HomE" and the way that the Homecomming title in the same font was written as "HomEcomInG". So I would personally just see it as a stylisation of the title, the same way it says "SPIDER-MAN" but we just write "Spider-Man", and then just take the raw lettering of "spider-man: far from home" and capitalise it by title case from there, if that makes sense. But I do see the point.
      7. Just to be clear, are you saying then that the lesser evil that will save edit wars is just to leave it as it is?
      8. Thank you, and fair enough. Just wanted to check. Again, thank you very much for that freedom.
      9. Good to know, thanks.

      There was one question Nerdtastic1221 could not answer, as he has not watched Runaways, so if I might also ask that:

      The Runaways who were erased from existence after successfully "changing" time are listed as "deceased" in their status. This doesn't seem like an apt description to me, and could confuse readers I feel (it certainly took me a moment to work out why it said that). Is there the possibility of it saying something else, or should it just be left as "deceased"?

      Thank you very much, it has indeed been of help.

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  • Sorry Sir, I just want to talk and ask a question.

    User:Christhewalrus claims that the sourced articles that we use to these pages (Beta Ray Bill, Bi-Beast, Ares, Dark-Crawler, and Man-Thing) are just fan speculations, then he added Canonicity disputed template to those pages. So, I decided to remove Bi-Beast page to it's original page (which is a non-canon page) if you allow me, "Should I do that thing, Sir?

    Thanks, Have a nice day, Sir!

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    • I claimed they were fan speculation because it literally says so in the article. "Fans have done the digging." The only thing from Kevin Feige in the article is that the sculptures were Easter eggs. Easter eggs aren't really a way to confirm something as 100% canon.

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    • Christhewalrus wrote: "Fans have done the digging."

      That quote must go out of the articles. The information we know about these particular characters is that they were stranded in Sakaar, and they were former Champions. That can go in the articles.

      And our conjecture police let us assume that their names are the same as their comic-book counterparts.

      So, unless there are any other assumptions that shouldn't be there, the canonicity of those articles is not disputed.

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  • This user keeps adding useless "trivia" to Drax's page and says it is "crucial". They have done this 4 times already and 3 times within the past few days.

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  • Hi, I was just wondering why Black Monolith and Monolith are separate pages. Aren't they the same object? My understanding was that Flint just rebuilt the already existing monoliths, thus making them the same ones that blew up and created the Rift into the Fear Dimension. Is this not the case?

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  • Hey Shabook. I was looking in Recent Changes and saw a thread between two users with some rather inappropriate discussion topics that are completely unrelated to the MCU.

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    • Thank you for bringing it to my attention. It is quite above my level too, so I'm informing the Fandom Staff.

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  • I made a discussion thread because of the absolute horrifying prospect of discussing something legitimate on the talk page was not allowed, and then I'm not sure, I have no idea really, but on the new threads I can't find it. I wanted to follow up with a link I had found, but I can't see my thread. I hope it wasn't deleted out of spite.

    I don't care whether you think this is sarcastic, or rude, or whatever. I would just like to know if my thread is still there and if it isn't, then following your petty rule was just a waste of time, because half the stuff on this wiki is made up, I just wanted for once try and confirm something out of all the other stuff on this wiki that seems guessed and made up.

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    • I don't even bother in entering the discussions, so whatever you're trying to accuse me of...

      I suggest that you use the time you're gonna be blocked for this disrespectful message to think about ways of treating people with respect, instead of intimidating/harassing messages.

      Good day, and good luck.

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