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Exceptions to the "The" Rule[]

The policy states that "Codenames should never begin with The". The Other and The Watcher are exceptions "for SEO purposes and/or to avoid misleading/mistaken links", so could this be written into the policy itself to avoid confusion? CasualSunGod42 (talk) 03:32, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

Country Naming Policy[]

As it stands, there is no policy for the naming conventions used by countries, that can lead to inconsistency or even confusion, most notably how the vast majority of United States of America's links are piped into simply "United States." So I propose a naming policy that is similar to what is used for acronyms such as FBI and CIA vs Strategic Scientific Reserve; The name that is used most frequenyly and most commonly is the name of the page.
I feel this would be a relatively simply policy to enforce and would fix the problem currently facing the United States article, as well as potentially limit confusion about potential country article's names, and make the names overall much more consistent, whereas right now, the United States article uses the "long form" "full" name while no other county article does. - latest?cb=20221206082006 E-Scope | Message WallContribs - 06:14, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

Of course there is not, and there will not be, a policy on how to name countries, they are real-life subjects whose name is not decided here. Countries have the name they have. When in doubt, defer to the rules of the English language...--Shabook (talk) 16:09, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
Shabook, you clearly did not read what E-Scope actually wrote. Countries have multiple given names in real life. They have an official name, and they have a common name. What E-Scope is describing is the fact that we currently do not outline which name should be used. We use the official name for some and the common name for most others. He is asking for the policy to clarify which is preferred; needless to say, there are no default rules for that in the English language. latest?cb=20221206070401&format=original Rman41 | Blogs - Message Wall - Guestbook 21:09, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
I clearly read it, thank you. As you said, if language does not establish rules for naming countries, do we have to? Too much effort for little reward. Most countries currently have a page with a correct title/name. While redacting an article, if the particular redaction of that particular sentence asks for something else, that's why piped links can be used. The countries that don't have an article are easily traceable. In fact they have already been years ago in this list.--Shabook (talk) 22:27, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
I really do not know how you could read what he originally said and reply in the way that you did, with all due respect. "Too much effort for little reward" is a pretty poor response to a clarification of policy question, which is what this is. If you think it is too much effort, you do not have to be the one to implement the changes. The issue also does not relate much to countries that don't currently have an article. In fact, the only country that would be affected by this change is the United States as far as I'm aware, and it is a straightforward change to make. And to answer your question more broadly, yes, we should define at least vaguely how a country should be named if there are multiple ways to name country articles and ours are currently inconsistent, as they are. We use common name for almost everything, but not the United States. That should definitely change; the fact that we *have* to pipe links to that country to properly shorten it more often than not is evidence enough. If we are not going to call Mexico the United Mexican States, then we should not call the United States the United States of America. It's a straightforward change. latest?cb=20221206070401&format=original Rman41 | Blogs - Message Wall - Guestbook 22:41, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
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