 |
 Archives |
|---|
Doctor Strange Prelude Infinite Comic Dream[]
Identification[]
- The following discussion is an archived discussion. Please do not modify it.
- Identified -
Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 16:17, 5 December 2025 (UTC)
Adria tells Kaecilius to help both her and their son, withering and disintegrating, becoming a skeleton, as she tells Kaecilius to take them where they can always be together. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 16:17, 5 December 2025 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it.
Naming[]
Maybe Disintegrating Adria? Yes she technically disintegrates after she dies but this universe is unique because she does it while still alive. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 16:17, 5 December 2025 (UTC)
- That's fine with me. I want to throw out there Withering Adria though. - Raff • Message Wall • Contributions 16:39, 5 December 2025 (UTC)
Iron Man 2 Books[]
Iron Man 2[]
Identification[]
- The following discussion is an archived discussion. Please do not modify it.
- Identified - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 05:26, 19 November 2025 (UTC)
The biggest differences are that during the Battle at Stark Expo, Ivan Vanko confronts Pepper Potts directly, leading Tony Stark to go to him and that the Ex-Wife Missile is effective and causes a lot of damage. Other notable differences are that a Senator named Buxton is involved in the Senate hearing, Anton Vanko dies concurrently with the opening of Stark Expo, and Ivan Vanko's bird stays in Russia the entire time and is not brought to Hammer Industries, instead getting watched by Vanko's building's superintendent. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 05:26, 19 November 2025 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it.
Naming[]
- The following discussion is an archived discussion. Please do not modify it.
- Stark Expo Ex-Wife Missile Explosion —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jessica3801 (message wall • contribs)
I'd say Effective Ex-Wife Missile is a good one. It's clear and unique. Vanko attacks Pepper in the junior novel as well, so it's not really good as a name. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 05:26, 19 November 2025 (UTC)
- The thing is that the Ex-Wife being effective is not actually unique; it successfully works in Iron Man 3 Prelude, which we treat as being canonical to the Prime Universe. War Machine uses it in the Battle of Hong Kong, and canonically the Ex-Wife works as intended in general, it just happened not to during the Battle at the Stark Expo. So I don't think we can apply it to this reality. Based on what you have written in the Identification, perhaps we should focus on the alternate ending that does deviate from the canon, which is Ivan Vanko confronting Pepper Potts directly? Fortunately we're not treating deleted scenes that do not align with canon as being separate universes, so we don't have to worry about Vanko confronting Potts in that deleted scene affecting the designation here. • MJLogan95 • Message Wall • Contributions 13:45, 19 November 2025 (UTC)
- That Ex-Wife is owned by the Ten Rings, so how about Functioning War Machine Ex-Wife Missile? Vanko confronts Pepper directly in The Junior Novel as well, the difference is that in The Junior Novel he's defeated with the Tech-Ball whereas in this book he's defeated with the Ex-Wife. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 17:58, 19 November 2025 (UTC)
- The reason why the Ex-Wife did not work was because Rhodey used it incorrectly. It's a kinetic-kill missile. It is supposed to be used at long distances. - Raff • Message Wall • Contributions 18:04, 19 November 2025 (UTC)
- This. Rhodey used it at short-range, which wasn't how it's intended to be used, hence why it didn't work. However, the missile was not defective, and would have functioned had he used it properly. So "Functioning War Machine Ex-Wife Missile" doesn't seem apt. Would Tech Ball Whiplash Defeat or Tech Ball Victory work? • MJLogan95 • Message Wall • Contributions 19:03, 19 November 2025 (UTC)
- The Tech-Ball is in The Junior Novel, here it's the Ex-Wife. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 19:33, 19 November 2025 (UTC)
- Buxton Stark Senate Hearing then? • MJLogan95 • Message Wall • Contributions 20:31, 19 November 2025 (UTC)
- I'd still like to focus on the Ex-Wife being what defeats Vanko, it's the biggest difference. Buxton is just briefly mentioned once in the book. Maybe Stark Expo Ex-Wife Missile Explosion? The explosion does destroy a significant portion of the expo. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 04:04, 20 November 2025 (UTC)
- I'm fine with that, especially if Buxton was only briefly mentioned. I was just going off the Identification. • MJLogan95 • Message Wall • Contributions 05:32, 20 November 2025 (UTC)
- Stark Expo Ex-Wife Missile Explosion sounds good to me as well, particularly given the significant scale of the destruction it causes. It focuses on the most significant divergence from the main universe presented in the book without being a name that could represent multiple universes. Logo8th (talk) 04:53, 21 November 2025 (UTC)
- I agree. -DavisRanger (talk) 05:13, 21 November 2025 (UTC)
- I'm cool with that. - Raff • Message Wall • Contributions 16:59, 21 November 2025 (UTC)
- I agree. -DavisRanger (talk) 05:13, 21 November 2025 (UTC)
- I'd still like to focus on the Ex-Wife being what defeats Vanko, it's the biggest difference. Buxton is just briefly mentioned once in the book. Maybe Stark Expo Ex-Wife Missile Explosion? The explosion does destroy a significant portion of the expo. -
- Buxton Stark Senate Hearing then? • MJLogan95 • Message Wall • Contributions 20:31, 19 November 2025 (UTC)
- The Tech-Ball is in The Junior Novel, here it's the Ex-Wife. -
- This. Rhodey used it at short-range, which wasn't how it's intended to be used, hence why it didn't work. However, the missile was not defective, and would have functioned had he used it properly. So "Functioning War Machine Ex-Wife Missile" doesn't seem apt. Would Tech Ball Whiplash Defeat or Tech Ball Victory work? • MJLogan95 • Message Wall • Contributions 19:03, 19 November 2025 (UTC)
- The reason why the Ex-Wife did not work was because Rhodey used it incorrectly. It's a kinetic-kill missile. It is supposed to be used at long distances. - Raff • Message Wall • Contributions 18:04, 19 November 2025 (UTC)
- That Ex-Wife is owned by the Ten Rings, so how about Functioning War Machine Ex-Wife Missile? Vanko confronts Pepper directly in The Junior Novel as well, the difference is that in The Junior Novel he's defeated with the Tech-Ball whereas in this book he's defeated with the Ex-Wife. -
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it.
The Avengers: Storybook Collection, Iron Man 3: Iron Man Fights Back, and Thor: The Dark World: Heroes of Asgard[]
Identification[]
- The following discussion is an archived discussion. Please do not modify it.
- Identified - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 05:26, 19 November 2025 (UTC)
Stark Expo has been consistently celebrated every 10 years. James Rhodes stealthily steals the Mark II armor without incident. Mjolnir is unbreakable. The Arc Reactor functions as Tony Stark's heart. The Avengers fight Loki in the mountains of Germany. Dark Elves require their masks to breathe on Svartalfheim. Mjolnir was created specifically for Thor. Steve Rogers and Natasha Romanoff rescue the Lemurian Star alone, and Natasha does not have an alternate mission. Georges Batroc is captured during the retaking of the Lemurian Star. Tony Stark fixes his suit alone in Rose Hill, using the same suit to fight Mandarin. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 05:26, 19 November 2025 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it.
Naming[]
- The following discussion is an archived discussion. Please do not modify it.
- Artificial Heart Arc Reactor —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jessica3801 (message wall • contribs)
I think the best bet would be either Arc Reactor Prosthetic Heart or Decennial Stark Expo. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 05:26, 19 November 2025 (UTC)
- Since we're grouping the realities of these books into one timeline, I think the focus on Iron Man is better than just the Stark Expo happening every ten years, or the Dark Elves breathing with assistance, or the events of the Lemurian Star. Ideally since the events of The Avengers affects Iron Man 3 and Thor: The Dark World it would be that, but I cannot think of a suggestion that solely revolves around the Avengers fighting Loki in Germany. Were they even Avengers then, if we go by the logic of the Avengers Initiative members becoming Avengers only when Coulson died? Perhaps the best choice here is to focus on the Stark differences.
- Is it actually a prosthetic heart though, or does it have the exact same design as in canon and just functions as a heart? If it's the latter, and Tony's actual heart is still present in his body and the Arc Reactor is essentially regulating the heart and allowing for its functions to be performed, it would be a ventricular assist device (VAD) instead of a prosthesis. So Ventricular Assist Arc Reactor or VAD Arc Reactor? If Tony's heart had been removed entirely and the Arc Reactor took over its function, I think Artificial Arc Reactor Heart or Artificial Heart Arc Reactor would be better. • MJLogan95 • Message Wall • Contributions 13:54, 19 November 2025 (UTC)
- It's presented as though it's replacing his heart. The exact wording is "Things weren't always perfect for Tony. While driving through enemy territory, his truck was blown up and a piece of metal hit Tony's heart. He was captured, and while a prisoner he built the first Iron Man armor. His chest plate acted like a new heart, keeping him alive [...] With a heart of iron and armor to match, Tony Stark was the perfect fit for S.H.I.E.L.D.'s new team." It really does seem like Tony's heart fully does not beat, though it's unclear on whether the heart is still in his body. I wouldn't mind Artificial Heart Arc Reactor or Artificial Arc Reactor Heart. I'm not sure which is the better wording. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 18:03, 19 November 2025 (UTC)
- I like the second option. - Raff • Message Wall • Contributions 18:06, 19 November 2025 (UTC)
- I feel like the intent of the prose being used is meant to be the same as what transpired in the movie/canon, but since they wrote "His chest plate acted like a new heart" I guess we'll abide by that literally. Of the two suggestions, I suppose Artificial Arc Reactor Heart may be the way to go. • MJLogan95 • Message Wall • Contributions 19:03, 19 November 2025 (UTC)
- I've decided to change my "vote" to Artificial Heart Arc Reactor. • MJLogan95 • Message Wall • Contributions 22:29, 20 November 2025 (UTC)
- Out of the two options presented, I'm leaning more towards Artificial Heart Arc Reactor as the universe name. However, there are a couple of other seemingly significant differences in my opinion that I could also see as being potentially worthy of a universe name, such as something akin to German Mountain Loki Battle or Thor-Specific Mjolnir. I'd be fine with the Iron Man-focused names being chosen, but just thought that some potential alternate names were worth bringing up as well. Logo8th (talk) 04:53, 21 November 2025 (UTC)
- I do like German Mountain Loki Battle, and I don't think that is true for any other The Avengers books. I don't think Thor-Specific Mjolnir works since since it is a common issue about these early books, and even some canon media.-DavisRanger (talk) 05:13, 21 November 2025 (UTC)
- I'm also okay with German Mountain Loki Battle as it's more unique than Artificial Heart Arc Reactor, especially since I believe the narrative intent is that the Arc Reactor is meant to function the same way as it does in canon. Thor-Specific Mjolnir I'm less keen on, as I feel there must be some other media prior to the release of Thor: Ragnarok that operated under the idea that the hammer was forged specifically for him. • MJLogan95 • Message Wall • Contributions 11:16, 21 November 2025 (UTC)
- You're right, there are others where Mjølnir is unique to Thor. Personally I still prefer Artificial Heart Arc Reactor since the Skirmish in Germany could arguably be referred to as a "German Mountain Loki Battle." It's a fight involving Loki that happens in the German mountains. Yes they're fighting over Loki as opposed to against him, but I think it's too close when there's a more significant divergence in the phrasing of the Arc Reactor's role. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 15:11, 21 November 2025 (UTC)
- I don't think the events of The Avengers really indicate a "German Mountain Loki Battle". Loki is not actually involved in that. - Raff • Message Wall • Contributions 17:03, 21 November 2025 (UTC)
- I guess you could still go with "German Mountain Loki Battle" which is definitely a better differentiative in some ways than "Artificial Heart Arc Reactor" since you could technically argue the Arc Reactor is serving as an artificial heart of sorts in general. So I wouldn't be opposed to it if that were chosen. But when it comes to multiple books sharing a singular universe, I tend to pick the name that applies to at least two or more entries as opposed to just one, and both The Avengers and Iron Man 3 revolve around Stark. So I guess I'll still stick with Artificial Heart Arc Reactor. • MJLogan95 • Message Wall • Contributions 21:50, 22 November 2025 (UTC)
- I agree. I was thinking I could adjust the name but considering how nuanced the name would get, I think it would ultimately not be wroth to make it the name. I am fine with Artificial Heart Arc Reactor. I just wanted one that could not possibly true for Iron Man 2: The Official Movie Storybook and cannot just be attributed to the writer misunderstanding the film. -DavisRanger (talk) 22:06, 22 November 2025 (UTC)
- In that case, if neither of the proposed alternative differentiatives would work better, I'm fine with using Artificial Heart Arc Reactor for this universe. Logo8th (talk) 23:06, 22 November 2025 (UTC)
- You're right, there are others where Mjølnir is unique to Thor. Personally I still prefer Artificial Heart Arc Reactor since the Skirmish in Germany could arguably be referred to as a "German Mountain Loki Battle." It's a fight involving Loki that happens in the German mountains. Yes they're fighting over Loki as opposed to against him, but I think it's too close when there's a more significant divergence in the phrasing of the Arc Reactor's role. -
- It's presented as though it's replacing his heart. The exact wording is "Things weren't always perfect for Tony. While driving through enemy territory, his truck was blown up and a piece of metal hit Tony's heart. He was captured, and while a prisoner he built the first Iron Man armor. His chest plate acted like a new heart, keeping him alive [...] With a heart of iron and armor to match, Tony Stark was the perfect fit for S.H.I.E.L.D.'s new team." It really does seem like Tony's heart fully does not beat, though it's unclear on whether the heart is still in his body. I wouldn't mind Artificial Heart Arc Reactor or Artificial Arc Reactor Heart. I'm not sure which is the better wording. -
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it.
Iron Man 2: Meet the Black Widow[]
Identification[]
- The following discussion is an archived discussion. Please do not modify it.
- Identified - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 05:26, 19 November 2025 (UTC)
Ivan Vanko does his plans without assistance from Justin Hammer, including escaping Batiment B3 and the Stark Expo attack. Natasha Romanoff is able to return to Stark Expo to help Tony fight the drones and Ivan Vanko, who is still using the Mark I Whiplash armor. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 05:26, 19 November 2025 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it.
Naming[]
- The following discussion is an archived discussion. Please do not modify it.
- Vanko Warehouse Infiltrated - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 14:56, 5 December 2025 (UTC)
Maybe Unassisted Batiment B3 Escape? I'm iffy about that though, and it does happen in Friends and Foes as well. The difference between this and Friends and Foes is that Natasha helps Tony at Stark expo in Friends and Foes whereas this book as the Hammer Industries infiltration. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 05:26, 19 November 2025 (UTC)
- "whereas this book as the Hammer Industries infiltration" I'm confused on what this means, as it reads as if Natasha helped Tony at the Stark Expo in Friends and Foes whereas in this book she was instead infiltrating Hammer Industries, but the Identification states she returned to help Stark fight at the Expo. Is this to mean that in Friends and Foes she remained at the Expo the entire time, and in this book she went to Hammer HQ and then returned?
Also, when you say Ivan Vanko did his plans without assistance from Hammer, that is to say Hammer never met Vanko at all, right? That's why Vanko still has the Mark I Whiplash armor? If that's the case, I think Vanko and Hammer not having allied should be the focus, and not just the fact that Vanko got out of Batiment B3 without Hammer's assistance.EDIT: I'm responding to these as I see each one, and I just saw that Friends and Foes also has the lack of Hammer-Vanko alliance, thus making it not unique for this reality. • MJLogan95 • Message Wall • Contributions 14:01, 19 November 2025 (UTC)- So in this book, Natasha goes to Vanko's warehouse (Hammer actually isn't in the book at all I just worded it that way for simplicity) with Happy and then returns to Stark Expo to fight. In Friends and Foes, Natasha is with Tony at Stark Expo the entire fight. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 18:05, 19 November 2025 (UTC)
- Would Black Widow Vanko Infiltration work? • MJLogan95 • Message Wall • Contributions 19:03, 19 November 2025 (UTC)
- I would be in support of Black Widow Vanko Infiltration if that's the route we decided to go. Logo8th (talk) 04:53, 21 November 2025 (UTC)
- Maybe in that same spirit, Vanko Warehouse Infiltrated is be more clear? She's not infiltrating Vanko himself. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 15:17, 21 November 2025 (UTC)
- That makes more sense to me, and may be the best option due to be short. -DavisRanger (talk) 22:06, 22 November 2025 (UTC)
- Vanko Warehouse Infiltrated works for me. Would it be "Infiltrated" or "Infiltration"? • MJLogan95 • Message Wall • Contributions 00:05, 23 November 2025 (UTC)
- Typically in this case "Infiltrated", similar to Tyrone Johnson Killed Universe or Military Endangered Betty Ross Universe. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 20:36, 1 December 2025 (UTC)
- Typically in this case "Infiltrated", similar to Tyrone Johnson Killed Universe or Military Endangered Betty Ross Universe. -
- Maybe in that same spirit, Vanko Warehouse Infiltrated is be more clear? She's not infiltrating Vanko himself. -
- I would be in support of Black Widow Vanko Infiltration if that's the route we decided to go. Logo8th (talk) 04:53, 21 November 2025 (UTC)
- Would Black Widow Vanko Infiltration work? • MJLogan95 • Message Wall • Contributions 19:03, 19 November 2025 (UTC)
- Is "Ivan Vanko, who is still using the Mark I Whiplash armor" is not true for other books, than maybe Permanent Mark I Whiplash Armor? -DavisRanger (talk) 05:13, 21 November 2025 (UTC)
- "Permanent Mark I Whiplash Armor" almost sounds like Vanko can't take the armor off, like he's stuck in it forever. • MJLogan95 • Message Wall • Contributions 11:16, 21 November 2025 (UTC)
- Undestroyed Mark I Whiplash Armor? - Raff • Message Wall • Contributions 17:01, 21 November 2025 (UTC)
- I wouldn't call the main universe's Mark I destroyed, it just had the Arc Reactor removed. It's still otherwise in tact. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 21:42, 22 November 2025 (UTC)
- I had the same thought. Pop in another Arc Reactor and the Mark I's back in business. • MJLogan95 • Message Wall • Contributions 21:50, 22 November 2025 (UTC)
- Maybe Whiplash Mark I Armor Stark Expo Attack? A bit too much of a mouth fill I know. -DavisRanger (talk) 22:06, 22 November 2025 (UTC)
- I wouldn't call the main universe's Mark I destroyed, it just had the Arc Reactor removed. It's still otherwise in tact. -
- Undestroyed Mark I Whiplash Armor? - Raff • Message Wall • Contributions 17:01, 21 November 2025 (UTC)
- "Permanent Mark I Whiplash Armor" almost sounds like Vanko can't take the armor off, like he's stuck in it forever. • MJLogan95 • Message Wall • Contributions 11:16, 21 November 2025 (UTC)
- So in this book, Natasha goes to Vanko's warehouse (Hammer actually isn't in the book at all I just worded it that way for simplicity) with Happy and then returns to Stark Expo to fight. In Friends and Foes, Natasha is with Tony at Stark Expo the entire fight. -
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it.
Iron Man 2: Iron Man's Friends and Foes[]
Identification[]
- The following discussion is an archived discussion. Please do not modify it.
- Identified - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 05:26, 19 November 2025 (UTC)
Ivan Vanko does his plans without assistance from Justin Hammer, including escaping Batiment B3 and the Stark Expo attack. S.H.I.E.L.D., including Natasha, are able to assist Tony Stark in the Battle at Stark Expo. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 05:26, 19 November 2025 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it.
Naming[]
- The following discussion is an archived discussion. Please do not modify it.
- S.H.I.E.L.D.-Assisted Stark Expo Battle - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 15:23, 21 November 2025 (UTC)
Stark Expo Fighter Natasha Romanoff? Again, I don't love it. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 05:26, 19 November 2025 (UTC)
- The Identification for Meet the Black Widow above this states "Natasha Romanoff is able to return to Stark Expo to help Tony fight" so "Stark Expo Fighter Natasha Romanoff" would not be unique here. I noticed for this reality's Identification you said S.H.I.E.L.D. assisted in the Stark Expo, as in agents beyond just Agent Romanoff? Shouldn't that be the focus then? S.H.I.E.L.D. Assisted Stark Expo Battle sounds iffy, but something along those lines, maybe? • MJLogan95 • Message Wall • Contributions 14:04, 19 November 2025 (UTC)
- I had considered that but figured Natasha might be better due to it being the main reason the books can't be together. I'm fine with S.H.I.E.L.D.-Assisted Stark Expo Battle though. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 18:06, 19 November 2025 (UTC)
- That's cool with me. - Raff • Message Wall • Contributions 18:08, 19 November 2025 (UTC)
- Oh yeah, can't forget the hyphen. If everyone else is cool with that name. • MJLogan95 • Message Wall • Contributions 19:03, 19 November 2025 (UTC)
- Works for me as well. Logo8th (talk) 04:53, 21 November 2025 (UTC)
- I like this one. -DavisRanger (talk) 05:13, 21 November 2025 (UTC)
- I had considered that but figured Natasha might be better due to it being the main reason the books can't be together. I'm fine with S.H.I.E.L.D.-Assisted Stark Expo Battle though. -
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it.
Remaining Phase One Books[]
Thor[]
Identification[]
- The following discussion is an archived discussion. Please do not modify it.
- Identified - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 16:17, 5 December 2025 (UTC)
At the beginning of the story, Thor is already the only person capable of lifting Mjølnir. Odin goes to Jotunheim to infiltrate Thor's attack without needing the Bifrost. Loki's plan to turn the Asgardians and Frost Giants against each other does not begin until after Thor's attack on Jotunheim. Rather than getting approached by Jane, Thor approaches Jane at Smith Motors directly, where Jane decides to help him get Mjolnir back. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 16:17, 5 December 2025 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it.
Naming[]
The closest thing I have to an idea is either Wormhole-Opening Odin or Opportunistic Loki, but Loki is opportunistic in Ragnarok and I'm not sure whether sending Thor to Earth in The Avengers would qualify as Odin opening a wormhole. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 16:17, 5 December 2025 (UTC)
Captain America, The First Avenger Sound Book[]
Identification[]
- The following discussion is an archived discussion. Please do not modify it.
- Identified - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 16:17, 5 December 2025 (UTC)
Steve Rogers faces enemy fire while rescuing the prisoners of war at Hydra Base Camp C3. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 16:17, 5 December 2025 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it.
Naming[]
This is a major difference because the Liberation of Allied Prisoners of War is stealthy. Maybe Direct Hydra Base Camp C3 Attack? From what I could find, direct is the best antonym of stealthy for this situation. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 16:17, 5 December 2025 (UTC)
- Well since the prime universe version is stealthy, it technically is not an "attack," so what about Hydra Base Camp C3 Attack. - Raff • Message Wall • Contributions 16:44, 5 December 2025 (UTC)
Captain America: The First Avenger[]
Identification[]
- The following discussion is an archived discussion. Please do not modify it.
- Identified - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 16:33, 5 December 2025 (UTC)
Steve Rogers is recruited in the acceptance area of the recruitment tent, not in a private room. Vita radiation stimulates growth rather than preventing uncontrolled growth. The first performance of the USO show only attracts a small audience, which then grows over time. Steve and Peggy's conversation about searching for the right dance partner happens at the bar rather than the car on the way to Project Rebirth. Bucky and Steve defeat their attacker without incident, and Bucky is not thought dead. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 16:33, 5 December 2025 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it.
Naming[]
Maybe Schnellzug EB912 Survivor Bucky Barnes? - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 16:33, 5 December 2025 (UTC)
- Technically, that happens in What If...?, but given that this would be a main difference, it would still fit. - Raff • Message Wall • Contributions 16:45, 5 December 2025 (UTC)
Marvel Cinematic Universe: Reading Rumble[]
Identification[]
- The following discussion is an archived discussion. Please do not modify it.
- Identified - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 16:17, 5 December 2025 (UTC)
Steve Rogers already knows that Bucky Barnes is the Winter Soldier before the Battle of Washington, D.C. Sam Wilson keeps the EXO-7 Falcon at home rather than it being locked up at Fort Meade. The battle of DC happens while Bucky is on a helicopter, and after the battle, Steve, Sam, and Natasha are not captured by STRIKE. Bruce Banner is not on the run between becoming Hulk and getting recruited, but rather is a scientist who "works in a lab." Ultron does not get the Scepter, rather he is implied to already exist without it and the Avengers stop him and the Maximoffs from getting it, later resulting in the attack on Avengers Tower, and later South Africa. Hulk helps the Avengers to defeat Ultron in South Africa. Scott Lang learns he can talk to ants while using the Ant-Man suit for the first time. He uses the suit to make money and help Cassie deal with a bully. Peter Quill, Drax, and Gamora are already friends before meeting Gamora and Drax and asking them for help stealing the Orb. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 16:17, 5 December 2025 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it.
Naming[]
Scepter-Seeking Ultron? - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 16:17, 5 December 2025 (UTC)
- I'm fine with that. - Raff • Message Wall • Contributions 16:46, 5 December 2025 (UTC)
William Shakespeare's Avengers: The Complete Works[]
Identification[]
- The following discussion is an archived discussion. Please do not modify it.
- Identified - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 16:17, 5 December 2025 (UTC)
Everyone speaks in Shakespearean language and presents in an Elizabethan-era aesthetic. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 16:17, 5 December 2025 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it.
Naming[]
Shakespearean Avengers? Seems better than Elizabethan Avengers to me given both the nature of the book and the language used being more purposeful to match Shakespeare's language than just the general language used at the time. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 16:17, 5 December 2025 (UTC)
- I like Shakespearean more. - Raff • Message Wall • Contributions 16:47, 5 December 2025 (UTC)