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Daredevil: Born Again[]
Art for Art's Sake Dream[]
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During his eighth birthday party, Bastian Cooper suddenly becomes imperceptible to everyone around him. -
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- Imperceptible Bastian Cooper
Imperceptible Bastian Cooper? This is the most important part of the dream, which in general is a references to Muse's powers in the comics. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 18:52, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
- Eh, sounds good to me. - GarrettSMW | Message Wall • Contributions 22:43, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
- Yep, same here. - Bryschec (talk) 18:55, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
- I agree with that as well. -
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- I agree with that as well. -
- Yep, same here. - Bryschec (talk) 18:55, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
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Iron Man Books[]
Iron Man: A New Hero[]
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The Mark III armor is tested with a flight in the desert rather than in the Battle of Gulmira. Tony does not receive help in defeating Stane. Tony's identity as Iron Man remains secret. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 16:14, 5 March 2025 (UTC)
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- Mark III Desert Flight
My thoughts are either Unassisted Iron Monger Defeat or Secret Identity Iron Man. I'm leaning toward the latter, but it is also true of Iron Man: I Am Iron Man! - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 16:14, 5 March 2025 (UTC)
- How about something relating to the Duel Los Angeles being in the Desert instead of the city? -DavisRanger (talk) 16:25, 5 March 2025 (UTC)
- It's not. The thing that's in the desert is Tony testing the Mark III armor. It's a difference because in the movie his first use of it is Gulmira. The Duel of Los Angeles is at Stark Industries like in the movie. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 05:05, 11 March 2025 (UTC)
- It's not. The thing that's in the desert is Tony testing the Mark III armor. It's a difference because in the movie his first use of it is Gulmira. The Duel of Los Angeles is at Stark Industries like in the movie. -
- Both of those would work, but I was also thinking about using the fact Iron Monger/Iron Monger Armor survived, like Iron Monger Alive. -DavisRanger (talk) 01:12, 16 March 2025 (UTC)
- I don't think we can say that for certain. The illustration seems to have him still falling, so that's not an indicator, and the text says "He wasn't going to hurt anyone anymore." That seems like a kid-friendly way of saying he died. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 19:09, 16 March 2025 (UTC)
- I don't think we can say that for certain. The illustration seems to have him still falling, so that's not an indicator, and the text says "He wasn't going to hurt anyone anymore." That seems like a kid-friendly way of saying he died. -
- I'll support Secret Identity Iron Man. • MJLogan95 | Message Wall • Contributions 11:34, 16 March 2025 (UTC)
- Even though it applies to another book? Just making sure - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 19:09, 16 March 2025 (UTC)
- Hm, on second thought... How about Mark III Desert Flight then? • MJLogan95 | Message Wall • Contributions 00:02, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
- Mark III Desert Flight I don't mind at all. Thoughts from others? - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 18:33, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
- Mark III Desert Flight I don't mind at all. Thoughts from others? -
- Hm, on second thought... How about Mark III Desert Flight then? • MJLogan95 | Message Wall • Contributions 00:02, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
- Even though it applies to another book? Just making sure -
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Iron Man: Teen Novelization[]
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Abu Bakaar is named Abu Bakar and William Gabriel is named Benson Gabriel. Whiplash 1 and 2 have the codenames Viper One and Two. Tony does not interrupt Raza's torture of Yinsen. Instead, Raza simply drops the coal and walks away. The Iron Man armors are built by a Series IX CNC Combo machine rather than Dum-E and U. Abu Bakar is killed for using a washing machine that Tony asked for during his kidnapping, tricking the Ten Rings into believing he needed it. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 16:14, 5 March 2025 (UTC)
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- Abu Bakar Killed
I'm fairly certain Bakaar is not killed in the other novelizations, so I would proposed Abu Bakar Killed. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 16:14, 5 March 2025 (UTC)
- I'm fine with that. -DavisRanger (talk) 16:25, 5 March 2025 (UTC)
- I confirmed this is the only universe where he is killed so it would work. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 05:05, 11 March 2025 (UTC)
- Seems to be the most apt choice. I'm in favor. • MJLogan95 | Message Wall • Contributions 09:25, 11 March 2025 (UTC)
- I confirmed this is the only universe where he is killed so it would work. -
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Iron Man 2: 2-in-1 Novel[]
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Tony's New Element is vibranium. Natasha does not inject Tony with lithium dioxide. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 16:14, 5 March 2025 (UTC)
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- Vibranium Inventor Tony Stark
Vibranium Inventor Tony Stark? - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 16:14, 5 March 2025 (UTC)
- That seems like the cleanest name.-DavisRanger (talk) 16:25, 5 March 2025 (UTC)
- Agreed. • MJLogan95 | Message Wall • Contributions 09:26, 11 March 2025 (UTC)
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Iron Man: I Am Iron Man![]
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Stark Industries is a plane manufacturer. Tony's first act as Iron Man, which he started to help people with no mention of a kidnapping, is saving someone from a burning building. Tony chooses not to reveal his identity. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 16:14, 5 March 2025 (UTC)
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- Stark Industries Plane Manufacturer
Plane Manufacturer Stark Industries? - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 16:14, 5 March 2025 (UTC)
- I'm fine with that. But maybe something relating to him not being kidnapped?, not sure how to word it though. -DavisRanger (talk) 16:25, 5 March 2025 (UTC)
- He seemingly isn't kidnapped in A New Hero either though. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 17:02, 5 March 2025 (UTC)
- He seemingly isn't kidnapped in A New Hero either though. -
- How about Stark Industries Plane Manufacturization, or Stark Industries Plane Manufacturers. Just Stark Industries coming first. • MJLogan95 | Message Wall • Contributions 09:28, 11 March 2025 (UTC)
- Stark Industries Plane Manufacturer is what it would be. That's fine with me. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 04:55, 12 March 2025 (UTC)
- Stark Industries Plane Manufacturer it is, then. • MJLogan95 | Message Wall • Contributions 11:32, 16 March 2025 (UTC)
- Stark Industries Plane Manufacturer is what it would be. That's fine with me. -
Fire Rescue Iron Man? • MJLogan95 | Message Wall • Contributions 09:28, 11 March 2025 (UTC)
- This kind of makes it seem like Iron Man is part of a Fire Rescue squad, whereas really it's just his first save. I think the plane manufacturer bit is a bigger difference. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 04:55, 12 March 2025 (UTC)
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Iron Man[]
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Ramirez is a man named Pedro Ramirez. During the Air Force/Iron Man fight after Gulmira, Iron Man is hit by a missile and believed dead by the military. Stane is aware of the Mandarin and does not want him involved in their dealings. Phil Coulson initially believes Tony to be the one selling weapons to the Ten Rings in exchange for release from his kidnapping and has Pepper brought into S.H.I.E.L.D. for questioning when she tries to convince him it was Stane (this is as opposed to Pepper going to S.H.I.E.L.D. willingly in the movie). During the Duel in Los Angeles, the large Arc Reactor is damaged and Pepper's actions are to prevent it from destroying Los Angeles, with killing Stane being a secondary purpose. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 16:14, 5 March 2025 (UTC)
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- Destabilized Factory Arc Reactor
I think the easiest things to name it with are Iron Man being thought dead after Gulmira and the large Arc Reactor being damaged. Maybe Arc Reactor Damaged? - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 16:14, 5 March 2025 (UTC)
- Presumed Dead Iron Man? Is there another time where Iron Man is presumed dead? -DavisRanger (talk) 16:25, 5 March 2025 (UTC)
- If that's the direction, then I'd rather the wording be flipped, Iron Man Presumed Dead. Although he is presumed dead after his mansion is destroyed in Iron Man 3. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 17:05, 5 March 2025 (UTC)
- The Arc Reactor is also damaged in Captain America: Civil War. • MJLogan95 | Message Wall • Contributions 09:30, 11 March 2025 (UTC)
- If that's the direction, then I'd rather the wording be flipped, Iron Man Presumed Dead. Although he is presumed dead after his mansion is destroyed in Iron Man 3. -
How about Accused War Monger Tony Stark or Arc Reactor Damaged? - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 05:05, 11 March 2025 (UTC)
- Logan made a good point about the arc reactor getting damaged in Civil War. Maybe Large Arc Reactor Damaged then? - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 04:55, 12 March 2025 (UTC)
- How about Destabilized Factory Arc Reactor? • MJLogan95 | Message Wall • Contributions 11:29, 16 March 2025 (UTC)
- I'd be alright with that. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 19:11, 16 March 2025 (UTC)
- I'd be alright with that. -
- How about Destabilized Factory Arc Reactor? • MJLogan95 | Message Wall • Contributions 11:29, 16 March 2025 (UTC)
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Phase One Box Set[]
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Tony Stark is accepted into the Avengers straight away rather than being denied and made a consultant. Asgard is said to have saved humans "so many times" from "calamity," implying multiple instances prior to 2010 of Asgard interacting with Earth. Odin is casually open about his past conquering worlds. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 05:05, 11 March 2025 (UTC)
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- Avengers Initiative Acceptee Tony Stark
The differences listed above are the ones that are not replicated in anything I've read so far that I think were major enough to note. Maybe Interfering Asgardians? - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 05:05, 11 March 2025 (UTC)
- Actually I just double checked Thor, and it also has the Asgardians have a past of protecting earth many times. Maybe then Avengers Acceptee Iron Man?
- The Asgardians protect the Nine Realms, of which Midgard (Earth) is one of them. Unless this book is stating that the Asgardians made their presence known to Earth publicly prior to 2010? I would instead focus on Odin not hiding the past from Asgard as he did in the primary timeline. Proud Conqueror Odin? • MJLogan95 | Message Wall • Contributions 10:47, 11 March 2025 (UTC)
- Proud Conqueror Odin isn't bad, but I think I still prefer Avengers Acceptee Iron Man. It's a bigger narrative difference, especially since at the time of writing, the Asgardian conquest hadn't been established to have been a secret yet since Ragnarok hadn't come out. Tony getting accepted into the Avengers straight away would have been an active choice that Irvine made since it was changing a detail of a movie that already came out. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 04:57, 12 March 2025 (UTC)
- Yeah, but "Avengers Acceptee" doesn't quite cover the fact that Tony was accepted outright; it just indicates he was accepted, which he eventually was in the prime timeline. And while the author was unaware of changes that came afterwards, in terms of the canon, retcon and all, Odin being a proud conqueror is a differentiative. We are after all naming these in 2025, and therefore have the benefit of what came after to help guide our decisions. • MJLogan95 | Message Wall • Contributions 11:31, 16 March 2025 (UTC)
- Avengers Initiative Acceptee Tony Stark then? I don't know if I would call Odin "proud." I don't have the exact quote (had to return the book to the library), but it's more just that he was open about it. Unless that's the sense of the word in which you meant it. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 19:13, 16 March 2025 (UTC)
- I'm fine with Avengers Initiative Acceptee Tony Stark if that's what we got to work with. • MJLogan95 | Message Wall • Contributions 00:02, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
- Avengers Initiative Acceptee Tony Stark then? I don't know if I would call Odin "proud." I don't have the exact quote (had to return the book to the library), but it's more just that he was open about it. Unless that's the sense of the word in which you meant it. -
- Yeah, but "Avengers Acceptee" doesn't quite cover the fact that Tony was accepted outright; it just indicates he was accepted, which he eventually was in the prime timeline. And while the author was unaware of changes that came afterwards, in terms of the canon, retcon and all, Odin being a proud conqueror is a differentiative. We are after all naming these in 2025, and therefore have the benefit of what came after to help guide our decisions. • MJLogan95 | Message Wall • Contributions 11:31, 16 March 2025 (UTC)
- Proud Conqueror Odin isn't bad, but I think I still prefer Avengers Acceptee Iron Man. It's a bigger narrative difference, especially since at the time of writing, the Asgardian conquest hadn't been established to have been a secret yet since Ragnarok hadn't come out. Tony getting accepted into the Avengers straight away would have been an active choice that Irvine made since it was changing a detail of a movie that already came out. -
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