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- Invading Gamma Beasts
There are a couple that come to mind to me that could work. Apex Gamma Beasts, Apex Gamma War (or just Gamma War in general I suppose), or Mech-Suit Avenger. • MJLogan95 | Message Wall • Contributions 13:14, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- I'd also throw in Mech Avengers which is official as it's in the title of the episode. • MJLogan95 | Message Wall • Contributions 13:46, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Gamma Beast Invasion? Gamma War is going to be the name of the page, and I think the Gamma Beasts themselves is the main feature of the universe, not the mech avengers. -Jessica3801 (talk) 14:08, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- You're so right; it slipped my mind that "Gamma War" wouldn't work as the universe page since it would be the name of the war's page. I'm fine with Gamma Beast Invasion; Sam himself does refer to as an invasion in the show. I prefer Gamma Beast Invasion to the Gamma related suggestions I proposed, but I do think Mech Avengers could be just as valid. • MJLogan95 | Message Wall • Contributions 14:14, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- There's a chance we end up splitting and having a page titled Mech Avengers for the team. -Jessica3801 (talk) 14:52, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Hm. In that case I suppose the invasion angle works best. I'm okay with Gamma Beast Invasion. • MJLogan95 | Message Wall • Contributions 15:00, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Actually wait that's the present events war, so that doesn't work either. Gamma Beast Uprising? The beasts rise up (literally and figuratively) in the present after having previously been beaten. -Jessica3801 (talk) 15:11, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- I was originally thinking Mech Avengers and I can understand using it for the team name. However, I would keep the team as "Avengers" and have both old Avengers (Iron Man, Captain America (Steve), Black Widow, Hawkeye, and Thor) and the new Avengers on that page because they are for all intents and purposes meant to be the same team even if not explicitly stated. So Mech Avengers is my go-to. I can live with Gamma Beast Uprising.
Pr0tato210 | Message Wall • Contributions 16:05, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Guys heared me put why not Go go Avengers o Go go Mech Avengers. Seeing how this episode seems to be a parody/homage to Power Rangers/Super Sentai —Preceding unsigned comment added by Spider-Dude2006 (message wall • contribs)
- While that's true, it doesn't describe the main feature of the universe. It would need to be something describing the main thing that makes this universe different, and Go Go Avengers isn't that. -Jessica3801 (talk) 17:29, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- It is not a problem I can come out with others names using the same premised. We have Gamma Beast Fighters, we can used the Mech Avengers concept but adding Mech Avengers Rising or my personal favorite which I hoped it became the official Counter Gamma War Squad or just Counter Gamma Squad> I think the last one shows first the main thing that makes this universe different the Avengers became a "Super Sentai/Power Rangers" team in order to counter the Gamma Beast in a Gamma War. It also similar to Power Rangers the story ends with the heroes dying or retiring and a new group of heroes taking off where they left off. We have a similar name before with the Emergence Response Suit Team universe. Counter Gamma Beast Squad could be also be as valid. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Spider-Dude2006 (message wall • contribs)
- The Avengers aren’t the main difference here. The main difference is the presence of Apex and the Gamma Beasts. The avengers assembling to fight them is a consequence of that. Emergence Response Suit Team is different because that is the main feature, it’s the player characters. We need a name focusing on the Gamma Beasts and Apex invading, hence the suggestion Gamma Beast Uprising. The Mech Avengers aren’t a squad, they’re a team. Let’s please focus on the gamma beasts, the main difference. -Jessica3801 (talk) 20:26, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Gamma Beast Uprising is fine. I think Gamma-Radiated Beasts might just be better. - Raff • Message Wall • Contributions 22:14, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- I'd agree if the beasts existed prior to Bruce's experiment. These aren't beasts that were irradiated, they were spawned as gamma beasts. -Jessica3801 (talk) 03:04, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- I see. In my opinion though it does not really matter, but I understand if it does for others. - Raff • Message Wall • Contributions 03:07, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- It'd be Gamma-Irradiated Beasts, Raff. • MJLogan95 | Message Wall • Contributions 03:10, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- I'd agree if the beasts existed prior to Bruce's experiment. These aren't beasts that were irradiated, they were spawned as gamma beasts. -Jessica3801 (talk) 03:04, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- While you can say the gamma beasts are the main difference, Jessica, I think it's still fine for people to focus on the Mech Avengers and propose names surrounding it. • MJLogan95 | Message Wall • Contributions 03:10, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Gamma Beast Uprising is fine. I think Gamma-Radiated Beasts might just be better. - Raff • Message Wall • Contributions 22:14, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- The Avengers aren’t the main difference here. The main difference is the presence of Apex and the Gamma Beasts. The avengers assembling to fight them is a consequence of that. Emergence Response Suit Team is different because that is the main feature, it’s the player characters. We need a name focusing on the Gamma Beasts and Apex invading, hence the suggestion Gamma Beast Uprising. The Mech Avengers aren’t a squad, they’re a team. Let’s please focus on the gamma beasts, the main difference. -Jessica3801 (talk) 20:26, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- It is not a problem I can come out with others names using the same premised. We have Gamma Beast Fighters, we can used the Mech Avengers concept but adding Mech Avengers Rising or my personal favorite which I hoped it became the official Counter Gamma War Squad or just Counter Gamma Squad> I think the last one shows first the main thing that makes this universe different the Avengers became a "Super Sentai/Power Rangers" team in order to counter the Gamma Beast in a Gamma War. It also similar to Power Rangers the story ends with the heroes dying or retiring and a new group of heroes taking off where they left off. We have a similar name before with the Emergence Response Suit Team universe. Counter Gamma Beast Squad could be also be as valid. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Spider-Dude2006 (message wall • contribs)
- While that's true, it doesn't describe the main feature of the universe. It would need to be something describing the main thing that makes this universe different, and Go Go Avengers isn't that. -Jessica3801 (talk) 17:29, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Guys heared me put why not Go go Avengers o Go go Mech Avengers. Seeing how this episode seems to be a parody/homage to Power Rangers/Super Sentai —Preceding unsigned comment added by Spider-Dude2006 (message wall • contribs)
- I was originally thinking Mech Avengers and I can understand using it for the team name. However, I would keep the team as "Avengers" and have both old Avengers (Iron Man, Captain America (Steve), Black Widow, Hawkeye, and Thor) and the new Avengers on that page because they are for all intents and purposes meant to be the same team even if not explicitly stated. So Mech Avengers is my go-to. I can live with Gamma Beast Uprising.
- Actually wait that's the present events war, so that doesn't work either. Gamma Beast Uprising? The beasts rise up (literally and figuratively) in the present after having previously been beaten. -Jessica3801 (talk) 15:11, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Hm. In that case I suppose the invasion angle works best. I'm okay with Gamma Beast Invasion. • MJLogan95 | Message Wall • Contributions 15:00, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- There's a chance we end up splitting and having a page titled Mech Avengers for the team. -Jessica3801 (talk) 14:52, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- You're so right; it slipped my mind that "Gamma War" wouldn't work as the universe page since it would be the name of the war's page. I'm fine with Gamma Beast Invasion; Sam himself does refer to as an invasion in the show. I prefer Gamma Beast Invasion to the Gamma related suggestions I proposed, but I do think Mech Avengers could be just as valid. • MJLogan95 | Message Wall • Contributions 14:14, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Gamma Beast Invasion? Gamma War is going to be the name of the page, and I think the Gamma Beasts themselves is the main feature of the universe, not the mech avengers. -Jessica3801 (talk) 14:08, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Alright, so it seems like the choices may be narrowed down to Gamma Beast Uprising, Mech Avengers (if the team pages aren't split or used as a redirect), Gamma Beast Invasion and maybe Gamma-Irradiated Beasts? Personally not a big fan of the latter; I don't think it quite encapsulates the episode in question. • MJLogan95 | Message Wall • Contributions 03:15, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- I think Gamma Beast Uprising sounds cool, it does capture the essence of the events literally and figuratively. MalchonC (talk) 05:36, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Agreed Jessica3801 (talk) 00:45, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- I really like Apex Gamma War but I'd be fine with Gamma Beast Uprising, although it does sound similar to Gamma Beast Invasion which is already a page. Fish Master 41 (talk) 02:30, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- On second thought, uprising refers to "a violent or non-violent act of opposition by a group of people in a specific area of a country against those in power." So while it works for Hydra Uprising, as they were violently opposing S.H.I.E.L.D.'s power, I don't think it quite applies literally to the Gamma Beasts. And Apex Gamma War may be considered too similar to the "Gamma War" event page. So I think I'll support Gamma Beast Invasion. • MJLogan95 | Message Wall • Contributions 03:45, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- That is the name of the war. - Raff • Message Wall • Contributions 04:19, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- If "Apex Gamma War" is the name of the war, then "Gamma War" is open, no? I thought "Gamma War" was the claimed one. • MJLogan95 | Message Wall • Contributions 04:34, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- Gamma War is the war from the past events, Gamma Beast Invasion is the war from the present events. Maybe Invading Gamma Beasts? -Jessica3801 (talk) 06:05, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- Ah, I see. Thank you for the clarification. How about Gamma Beast Attacks? • MJLogan95 | Message Wall • Contributions 07:43, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- I would still prefer to use invading honestly because the episode calls it that. But if other prefer Attacks I'd be okay with it. -Jessica3801 (talk) 08:51, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- I'm fine with Invading then. • MJLogan95 | Message Wall • Contributions 10:37, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
- I would still prefer to use invading honestly because the episode calls it that. But if other prefer Attacks I'd be okay with it. -Jessica3801 (talk) 08:51, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- Ah, I see. Thank you for the clarification. How about Gamma Beast Attacks? • MJLogan95 | Message Wall • Contributions 07:43, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- Gamma War is the war from the past events, Gamma Beast Invasion is the war from the present events. Maybe Invading Gamma Beasts? -Jessica3801 (talk) 06:05, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- If "Apex Gamma War" is the name of the war, then "Gamma War" is open, no? I thought "Gamma War" was the claimed one. • MJLogan95 | Message Wall • Contributions 04:34, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- That is the name of the war. - Raff • Message Wall • Contributions 04:19, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- Agreed Jessica3801 (talk) 00:45, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- I think Gamma Beast Uprising sounds cool, it does capture the essence of the events literally and figuratively. MalchonC (talk) 05:36, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- I think the name Mech Avengers is a good name for the timeline, however if there are any issues with the group name, may I suggest the names Mech Assembled, Gamma Invasion, or Gamma Beast Hulk? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bramble321 (message wall • contribs) 22:19, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
To go with a name using language officially in the episode, we'll go with Invading Gamma Beasts. -Jessica3801 (talk) 16:14, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
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What If... Agatha Went to Hollywood?[]
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What If... The Red Guardian Stopped the Winter Soldier?[]
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What If... 1872? (Show Tune Ultron)[]
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New Infinity Ultron[]
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- Reflective Infinity Ultron
Ultron makes it very clear he does not view himself as redeemable, so I'd avoid mentioning redemption or describing him as heroic. Maybe something like Introspective Infinity Ultron? He is introspective in the sense that he really becomes different when he reflects on the peace he created. -Jessica3801 (talk) 08:57, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thats probably fine. I was thinking about a name to show that he could not see the Watcher, and that is the difference between this and the other Ultron. Something like "Cosmic Unawareness Infinity Ultron", but a better name. - Raff • Message Wall • Contributions 15:39, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- I would go with Reformed Infinity Ultron personally. The big difference here is had time to reflect compared to OG Infinity Ultron and realized the error in his ways. That said, I would hold off on naming this universe entirely until we see the final episode as for all we know, he could be lying. Pr0tato210 | Message Wall • Contributions 19:12, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- The decision wouldn't have been made before then, but yeah. • MJLogan95 | Message Wall • Contributions 19:26, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- Even if he's not lying, I would avoid saying he's reformed, it means the same as redeemed. -Jessica3801 (talk) 19:54, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- The decision wouldn't have been made before then, but yeah. • MJLogan95 | Message Wall • Contributions 19:26, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- How about... Eonic Solitude Infinity Ultron. • MJLogan95 | Message Wall • Contributions 19:26, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- That applies to a lot of Ultrons though. This Ultron is unique because he reflected. -Jessica3801 (talk) 19:54, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- He says he regrets killing all of life, so Regretful Infinity Ultron, Guilty Infinity Ultron, Repentant Infinity Ultron can all work. He's also the only Infinity Ultron that reflected, so Reflective Infinity Ultron works as well. - GarrettPlayzRBLX | Message Wall • Contributions 21:42, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- I would go with Reformed Infinity Ultron personally. The big difference here is had time to reflect compared to OG Infinity Ultron and realized the error in his ways. That said, I would hold off on naming this universe entirely until we see the final episode as for all we know, he could be lying.
- Having seen the finale, I'd like to suggest Self-Sacrificing Infinity Ultron. • MJLogan95 | Message Wall • Contributions 12:15, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- Having seen the finale as well, I still feel Reformed Infinity Ultron is more fitting as the definition of reformed is "having been changed in such a way as to be improved" which this Ultron has. If we don't go with it, I'm fine with Logan's suggestion above (Self-Sacrificing Infinity Ultron). Pr0tato210 | Message Wall • Contributions 14:36, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- I'd still rather something about his episode 7 arc given that happens in that universe rather than something he did outside of it. That said, "Reformed" still has the issue of describing him as if he has been redeemed, which the show specifically tells us is not the case. If we don't want "Introspective," then it should be something about the fact that he reflected on the meaning of peace and realized that he was wrong. -Jessica3801 (talk) 18:44, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- Which is why I suggested Reflective Infinity Ultron. - GarrettPlayzRBLX | Message Wall • Contributions 22:32, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- I'd still rather something about his episode 7 arc given that happens in that universe rather than something he did outside of it. That said, "Reformed" still has the issue of describing him as if he has been redeemed, which the show specifically tells us is not the case. If we don't want "Introspective," then it should be something about the fact that he reflected on the meaning of peace and realized that he was wrong. -Jessica3801 (talk) 18:44, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, but the thing I am not exactly fond of about Self-Sacrificing Infinity Ultron is that it happens outside of his universe. I think the name should be something that happened inside instead. I think Regretful Infinity Ultron works, because he began regretting his actions while staying in his world. - Hi. So how are you guys? (talk) 13:44, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Having seen the finale as well, I still feel Reformed Infinity Ultron is more fitting as the definition of reformed is "having been changed in such a way as to be improved" which this Ultron has. If we don't go with it, I'm fine with Logan's suggestion above (Self-Sacrificing Infinity Ultron).
Out of all the ones that have been proposed, I think Reflective Infinity Ultron is the most fitting. The main feature of events that happen in the universe are that Ultron reflects on his actions, most other things are things that happen outside of his universe. Thoughts on this as a name? -
Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 05:44, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
- I'm fine with Reflective. • MJLogan95 | Message Wall • Contributions 13:01, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
- I'm good with Reflective Infinity Ultron as well. - Fish Master 41 (talk) 21:58, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
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- Hybrid Ironheart Killed
Synthezoid Fusion Riri Williams Killed? -Jessica3801 (talk) 20:18, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- That's a mouthful. Human-Synthezoid Ironheart Killed? • MJLogan95 | Message Wall • Contributions 20:28, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- I think Hybrid Ironheart Killed would be better. - Raff • Message Wall • Contributions 21:56, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- Ironheart Killed, since no other variants have been killed. - GarrettPlayzRBLX | Message Wall • Contributions 21:28, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- Also, if we wanted to focus on the fact that she lost hope and that Beck won, we can say Hopeless Ironheart, Unpersevering Ironheart, or Victorious Quentin Beck. Kdep in mind that the civilian names can be swapped out for codenames and vice-versa. - GarrettPlayzRBLX | Message Wall • Contributions 21:48, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- The issue with "Ironheart Killed" is that it could come up at any other point. Having the qualifier prevents it from being duplicated. -Jessica3801 (talk) 22:30, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- I like Hopeless Ironheart personally. - DemKnux (talk) 11:15, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- I'd like to suggest using Despair instead of "Hopeless" only because "hopeless" can also be interpreted as "inadequate". So Despairing Ironheart or Despair-Filled Ironheart. • MJLogan95 | Message Wall • Contributions 11:38, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- Despondent Ironheart sounds better than the other two. - GarrettPlayzRBLX | Message Wall • Contributions 22:33, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- I think if we focus on the emotion too much, it'll be more easily replicated. Feeling despair and despondent are things that are part of any classic hero's journey. I'd rather have something saying that she was killed. Personally the best one that's been proposed is Hybrid Ironheart Killed. Do we agree? - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 05:50, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
- At this point, exactly a month later, sure. If just to close the discussion, since I doubt we're all eager to be championing for names again after a month. • MJLogan95 | Message Wall • Contributions 13:03, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
- That's very concise and very likely to stay unique, I support it very much. MalchonC (talk) 13:24, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
- Hybrid Ironheart Killed works for me. - Fish Master 41 (talk) 22:01, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
- That name is good with me. - GarrettSMW | Message Wall • Contributions 23:56, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
- I think if we focus on the emotion too much, it'll be more easily replicated. Feeling despair and despondent are things that are part of any classic hero's journey. I'd rather have something saying that she was killed. Personally the best one that's been proposed is Hybrid Ironheart Killed. Do we agree? -
- Despondent Ironheart sounds better than the other two. - GarrettPlayzRBLX | Message Wall • Contributions 22:33, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- I'd like to suggest using Despair instead of "Hopeless" only because "hopeless" can also be interpreted as "inadequate". So Despairing Ironheart or Despair-Filled Ironheart. • MJLogan95 | Message Wall • Contributions 11:38, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- I like Hopeless Ironheart personally. - DemKnux (talk) 11:15, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- The issue with "Ironheart Killed" is that it could come up at any other point. Having the qualifier prevents it from being duplicated. -Jessica3801 (talk) 22:30, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
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