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Identification[]
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Norman Osborn discovers Spider-Man's secret identity as Peter Parker and trains Parker to be a better hero, mentoring him to be stronger. -
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Naming[]
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- Norman Osborn-Mentored Spider-Man
I think the current Osborn Mentored Spider-Man placeholder works. Might be worth doing Osborn-Mentored Spider-Man instead though. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 22:43, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
- I think the current placeholder is perfect and a change is not necessary. - Raff • Message Wall • Contributions 23:18, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
- The hyphen is a necessary addition, but other than that, it's good. - GarrettSMW | Message Wall • Contributions 00:02, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
- Agreed, it's grammatically incorrect without it. (Yes, I know the meme is referring to the other part of the placeholder.) - Bryschec (talk) 00:26, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
- To avoid confusion about the hyphen and the verb form of "Mentored", how about Osborn Mentee Spider-Man or Spider-Man Mentor Osborn? - GarrettSMW | Message Wall • Contributions 01:32, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
- I personally think that name is no longer applicable as the final episode Spider-man quit all ties with Norman I offered Time Paradox Spider-Man, Time Loop Spider Bite or Time Paradox Spider-Bite episode 10 confirmed the events of the series was a time loop in which the spider created by Osborn was sent to the past by Strange which end with Peter getting his powers which is why this universe became different so far it seems to be the same to the sacred timeline until that happened. - —Preceding unsigned comment added by Spider-Dude2006 (message wall • contribs)
- Accordin to what I learned about how you guys named the universe in this wiki, Norman mentoring Peter isn't what makes this universe unique but Midtown getting destroyed did. So we can also used Destroyed Midtown High, Rockford Attended Peter Parker as well as others if you guys don't want to used the spider bite or temporal paradox but the placeholder name is a no, no.- —Preceding unsigned comment added by Spider-Dude2006 (message wall • contribs)
- Yeah but episode 10 exactly confirms that everything that happens at Midtown High is because of what comes before (or in the future), so the main difference from the main universe that is at the start of the causal chain is still Peter being mentored by Norman. Personally I think Osborn-Mentored Spider-Man is good enough. MalchonC (talk) 04:04, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
- Stiotill the reason why Noram mentored Peter is because he attended Rockford so Rockford Attended Peter Parker or Rockford Student Peter Parker also works. - —Preceding unsigned comment added by Spider-Dude2006 (message wall • contribs)
- We don't name things on the wiki based on what caused the history to be different, we do it based on the main difference. Here, the main difference, meaning the entire plot of the first season and what defines this version of Spider-Man as unique, isn't the time loop, it’s that Peter was mentored by Norman. Names should be focusing on that, the main feature and main difference of this universe. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 07:09, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
- We don't name things on the wiki based on what caused the history to be different, we do it based on the main difference. Here, the main difference, meaning the entire plot of the first season and what defines this version of Spider-Man as unique, isn't the time loop, it’s that Peter was mentored by Norman. Names should be focusing on that, the main feature and main difference of this universe. -
- Stiotill the reason why Noram mentored Peter is because he attended Rockford so Rockford Attended Peter Parker or Rockford Student Peter Parker also works. - —Preceding unsigned comment added by Spider-Dude2006 (message wall • contribs)
- Yeah but episode 10 exactly confirms that everything that happens at Midtown High is because of what comes before (or in the future), so the main difference from the main universe that is at the start of the causal chain is still Peter being mentored by Norman. Personally I think Osborn-Mentored Spider-Man is good enough. MalchonC (talk) 04:04, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
- To avoid confusion about the hyphen and the verb form of "Mentored", how about Osborn Mentee Spider-Man or Spider-Man Mentor Osborn? - GarrettSMW | Message Wall • Contributions 01:32, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
- Agreed, it's grammatically incorrect without it. (Yes, I know the meme is referring to the other part of the placeholder.) - Bryschec (talk) 00:26, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
- The hyphen is a necessary addition, but other than that, it's good. - GarrettSMW | Message Wall • Contributions 00:02, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
Hi. I used to think Oscorp Intern Spider-Man would work, but maybe we can do something with the time paradox. Time Paradox Spider-Bite sounds like a good name to me. I do not exactly like the current placeholder because it sounds a bit informal, as it does not include Norman Osborn's full name. - Hi. So how are you guys? (talk) 6:14, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
- Peter is no longer an Oscorp intern, whereas it will always be true that Norman mentored him the paradox is not the main difference, the part identified in the “identification” section is, him being mentored by Norman. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 07:09, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
- Still, Norman stop mentoring Peter by episode 8 so the main difference should be that Peter attended Rockford instead of Midtown. So I thinks is better to focused on that. - —Preceding unsigned comment added by Spider-Dude2006 (message wall • contribs)
- Please ensure to actually sign your posts, not just post "7:77 (USA)". Also, if you're going to participate in these, please ensure to use correct spelling and grammar. Thank you. • MJLogan95 | Message Wall • Contributions 09:41, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
- The fact that Peter is no longer working with Norman does not change the fact that Osborn mentored Spider-Man. That will always be true, no matter what. Him attending a different school is not the main difference, it’s just what caused things to become different. The main difference has already been identified, that is the purpose of the "identification" section above, we need to focus on finding a name based on that main difference. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 16:38, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
- Still, Norman stop mentoring Peter by episode 8 so the main difference should be that Peter attended Rockford instead of Midtown. So I thinks is better to focused on that. - —Preceding unsigned comment added by Spider-Dude2006 (message wall • contribs)
- If his school is the difference we are focusing on, then I guess Rockford Student Spider-Man would do. Norman Osborn is no longer his mentor. - Hi. So how are you guys? (talk) 7:42, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
- To clarify again, we are not focusing on his school as the main difference, because it is not the main difference. The main difference, the thing the entire story of the season is about and which will continue to influence the universe down the road, is that Spider-Man was mentored by Norman Osborn. Even if that is no longer what is happening, it will always be true and affecting the universe that it did happen. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 16:38, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
- To clarify again, we are not focusing on his school as the main difference, because it is not the main difference. The main difference, the thing the entire story of the season is about and which will continue to influence the universe down the road, is that Spider-Man was mentored by Norman Osborn. Even if that is no longer what is happening, it will always be true and affecting the universe that it did happen. -
Hi. I think I have an idea. I guess we are meant to be focusing on Norman Osborn mentoring Spider-Man. How about Oscorp-Influenced Spider-Man? Think about it. Peter Parker would not have gotten his powers if not for Oscorp. Not only did Osborn mentor him, he had his employees in Oscorp help out as well. Peter Parker's character arc stems from the actions of Norman Osborn and his company. - Hi. So how are you guys? (talk) 7:48, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
- I'm fine with that alternative suggestion. • MJLogan95 | Message Wall • Contributions 09:41, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
- I think the current placeholder works. I've been oscillating recently on whether it's Osborn-Mentored or Osborn Mentored since we have Gamma Enhanced and not Gamma-Enhanced. If Osborn-Mentored is the correct one, which I'm fairly certain it is, then that. • MJLogan95 | Message Wall • Contributions 10:14, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
- Sorry, I still am not a fan of excluding Norman Osborn's first name from the universe name. Other ideas I could think of are Spider-Man Mentor Norman Osborn and Osborns-Influenced Spider-Man (since both Norman and Harry play a role). - Hi. So how are you guys? (talk) 10:23, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
- Osborn Influenced Spider-Man is perfect due to not only Norman have a pivotal role on Spider-Man journey but also in hia origin I would changed the word Osborn by 'Oscorp'. Oscorp Influenced Spider-Man since not only Norman and Harry played a role but also the whole Oscorp company. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Spider-Dude2006 (message wall • contribs)
- I'd rather have it be Osborn, because Harry is not part of Oscorp, especially not anymore. I also don’t particularly have a problem with leaving his first name out. I'd be okay with Osborn-Influenced Spider-Man, but I really do think that Mentored is the better name. It is his entire story in the first season that Osborn is mentoring him. It's not just small influences throughout, Norman is fully mentoring Peter and taking him on as a protege. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 16:38, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
- Yeah but Norman is no longer his mentor and in episode 9 we can see how despite Norman no longer doing that he still had some influence such as the "Greate Power comes great respect". So I am okey with Oscorp Influenced Spider-Man. Like the spider was due to Oscorp, the time paradox was due to Oscorp. Peter being mentored by Norman was due to his intership ar Oscorp. Like the whole show wouldn't exit without Oscorp os I thinks Oscorp Influenced Spider-Man is more fitting. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Spider-Dude2006 (message wall • contribs)
- It doensn't really matter if he is a mentor anymore. It is a primary arc for Peter in S1. - Raff • Message Wall • Contributions 16:58, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
- Yeah but Norman is no longer his mentor and in episode 9 we can see how despite Norman no longer doing that he still had some influence such as the "Greate Power comes great respect". So I am okey with Oscorp Influenced Spider-Man. Like the spider was due to Oscorp, the time paradox was due to Oscorp. Peter being mentored by Norman was due to his intership ar Oscorp. Like the whole show wouldn't exit without Oscorp os I thinks Oscorp Influenced Spider-Man is more fitting. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Spider-Dude2006 (message wall • contribs)
- As I have repeatedly stated, the fact that Norman is no longer his mentor is not relevant. It will always be true that Norman mentored Spider-Man and that will always influence him. Even in the future when Peter is doing things from Norman's influence, that is still because Norman mentored him, like you said. So even using that logic, mentored is still an appropriate name for the universe. Influenced makes his effect on Peter seem much smaller than it was, especially given it is the entire plot of the season. Especially since Norman's specific goal was to have Peter work for him, "Mentored" is far more accurate to what happened than Influenced, even now that he is no longer working with Norman. And Oscorp is not the thing that influenced Peter. He had a specific mentorship with Norman Osborn, not the company as a whole. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 16:59, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
Wow, this really got complicated while I was taking my nightly snooze. To summarize, the names right now are Osborn-Mentored Spider-Man and Osborn-Influenced Spider-Man. "Mentored" will work because the fact that Peter was mentored by Osborn is never-changing and will continue to affect his decision-making in later seasons. Thoughts on these two names? - GarrettSMW | Message Wall • Contributions 20:25, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
- Osborn-Mentored Spider-Man gets my vote. • MJLogan95 | Message Wall • Contributions 20:31, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
- I'm in favor of the last one. I think "Influenced has a meaning "having an effect on someone or something and the entire universe and Spider-Man was influenced by Norman —Preceding unsigned comment added by Spider-Dude2006 (message wall • contribs)
- Osborn-Influenced Spider-Man has my voted —Preceding unsigned comment added by Spider-Dude2006 (message wall • contribs)
- I still prefer Mentored. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 21:27, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
- With the existence of Harry Osborn, I think Norman Osborn-Mentored Spider-Man would be the best. We also tend to use both first and last names in universe designations. - Fish Master 41 (talk) 21:32, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
- I would also prefer to use the full name to make it clear which Osborn mentored him. I suggest Spider-Man Mentor Norman Osborn. - Hi. So how are you guys? (talk) 0:40, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
- If we were gonna go that way, I'd say Norman Osborn Mentee Spider-Man so that the name focuses on Spider-Man. - GarrettSMW | Message Wall • Contributions 03:27, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
- Norman Osborn mentee Spider-Man has my voted is still had the same idea but it focused more on Spider-Man which is the important thing in this universe. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Spider-Dude2006 (message wall • contribs)
- Norman Osborn Mentee Spider-Man sounds like a better name to me. It emphasizes which Osborn mentored him. - Hi. So how are you guys? (talk) 4:22, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
- If we were gonna go that way, I'd say Norman Osborn Mentee Spider-Man so that the name focuses on Spider-Man. - GarrettSMW | Message Wall • Contributions 03:27, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
- I would rather Oscorp-Mentored Spider-Man than Norman Osborn-Mentored Spider-Man. • MJLogan95 | Message Wall • Contributions 08:41, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
- Why not Norman Osborn Mentee Spider-Man? - Hi. So how are you guys? (talk) 1:36, 22 February 2025 (UTC)
- If you are worried about Norman Osborn Mentee Spider-Man possibly being a mouthful, let me remind you that this name has the same number of syllables as "History Altered by Chronicoms". - Hi. So how are you guys? (talk) 4:11, 22 February 2025 (UTC)
- I would also prefer to use the full name to make it clear which Osborn mentored him. I suggest Spider-Man Mentor Norman Osborn. - Hi. So how are you guys? (talk) 0:40, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
- If we need to have Norman in here Spider-Man guided Norman Osborn guided sounds better than Mentored in my opinion. - —Preceding unsigned comment added by Spider-Dude2006 (message wall • contribs)
- I don't like guided, it doesn't mean as much as mentored. - GarrettSMW | Message Wall • Contributions 03:27, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
- We would never use Spider-Man guided Norman Osborn. We don't use the lowercase and the name doesn't fit our Naming Parameters. • MJLogan95 | Message Wall • Contributions 08:41, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
- With the existence of Harry Osborn, I think Norman Osborn-Mentored Spider-Man would be the best. We also tend to use both first and last names in universe designations. - Fish Master 41 (talk) 21:32, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
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Norman Osborn-Mentored Spider-Man
- My vote is for this one. Peter is no longer Norman's mentee, but it will always be true that this is universe is built around a Spider-Man who is Osborn-mentored (as an adjective). - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 00:38, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
- Ditto for the same reasons as Jessica - Bryschec (talk) 00:58, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
- I much prefer this one. -DavisRanger (talk) 01:14, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
- This. - Raff • Message Wall • Contributions 02:45, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
- I vote for this one too. - Farizhf27 (talk) 04:21, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
- My Choice. - Cadennnnn • Message Wall • Contribs - 04:41, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
- My vote as well for the same reasons as the previous votes for this option. Logo8th (talk) 04:54, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
- Although I don't really like the structure of "word-space-word-hyphen-word" in "Norman Osborn-Mentored", I feel the word "mentee" is even more weird (just doesn't look like a real word, even though it might be), so this choice it is. MalchonC (talk) 01:56, 26 February 2025 (UTC)
- It is a real word. It's what you call someone who is being mentored. • MJLogan95 | Message Wall • Contributions 04:17, 26 February 2025 (UTC)
- I'm aware, I'm just saying it doesn't feel like one, personally. "Interviewee" on the other hand seems more like a real word, somehow, so if it were a decision between "Norman Osborn-Interviewed" and "Norman Osborn Interviewee", I would pick the latter no questions asked. MalchonC (talk) 06:32, 26 February 2025 (UTC)
- It is a real word. It's what you call someone who is being mentored. • MJLogan95 | Message Wall • Contributions 04:17, 26 February 2025 (UTC)
Norman Osborn Mentee Spider-Man
- It has my vote is focused more on Spider-Man which is the important thing - User:Spider-Dude2006 (Talk) Spider-Dude2006 (talk) 01:07, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
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Episode 8 Dream[]
Identification[]
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- Identified
Peter Parker attempts to run through Rockford T. Bales High School to catch up with his friends and Norman Osborn, but the hallways keeps expanding as the building crumples. Scorpion breaks the floor, causing Peter to fall as Scorpion attacks Peter's friends. As Spider-Man, Peter falls onto Scorpion's tail as New York city burns. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 20:29, 12 February 2025 (UTC)
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- High School Attacker Scorpion
I think the best places to focus might be either the expanding hallway or New York burning. Maybe Burning New York City or Expanding Bales Hallway? Personally I like Burning New York City more. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 20:29, 12 February 2025 (UTC)
- I like Burning New York City. - Cadennnnn • Message Wall • Contribs - 20:36, 12 February 2025 (UTC)
- New York City burned during the Bombing of Hell's Kitchen, so this would not work. - GarrettSMW | Message Wall • Contributions 05:31, 15 February 2025 (UTC)
Well the point of the dream is showing Peter's fears of losing ones closest to him and them walking away. So I would go something like Friendless Peter Parker. - Raff • Message Wall • Contributions 21:29, 12 February 2025 (UTC)
- That's only Nico and Norman, the latter isn't a friend. Pearl and Lonnie aren't walking away, they're getting attacked by Scorpion. The dream is about his life falling apart in general, not specifically losing friends, that's why it ends with the city burning and his own death and includes memories of May getting shattered. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 00:24, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- If we wanna focus on Peter's life falling apart, why not Spider-Man Destroyed? - DemKnux (talk) 00:55, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
- That makes it sound more physical than metaphorical. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 01:00, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
- That makes it sound more physical than metaphorical. -
- Hi. What about Spider-Man Fallen Apart? - Hi. So how are you guys? (talk) 06:30, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
- This sounds really unnatural in my opinion. Again, it's not like he is physically falling apart, it's that his life is. Nico and Norman are walking away from him, Pearl and Lonnie are under attack, New York is burning, and he is dead. All of this is stuff he blames himself for, yes, but I think focusing on the idea of his life falling apart is going to result in something too broad that can't be specifically applied to this universe. The main universe's Peter Parker is left friendless in No Way Home, and he isn't physically destroyed or falling apart, it's the his life is. That's why I suggested focusing on things that physically happen in the dream rather than the spirit of why the narrative has him have the dream. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 16:28, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
- How about Spider-Man Murderer Scorpion? - Hi. So how are you guys? (talk) 03:40, 15 February 2025 (UTC)
- We don't know that he was murdered, only that he was stabbed (which occurred in the main YFNSM universe). - GarrettSMW | Message Wall • Contributions 05:31, 15 February 2025 (UTC)
- How about Spider-Man Murderer Scorpion? - Hi. So how are you guys? (talk) 03:40, 15 February 2025 (UTC)
- This sounds really unnatural in my opinion. Again, it's not like he is physically falling apart, it's that his life is. Nico and Norman are walking away from him, Pearl and Lonnie are under attack, New York is burning, and he is dead. All of this is stuff he blames himself for, yes, but I think focusing on the idea of his life falling apart is going to result in something too broad that can't be specifically applied to this universe. The main universe's Peter Parker is left friendless in No Way Home, and he isn't physically destroyed or falling apart, it's the his life is. That's why I suggested focusing on things that physically happen in the dream rather than the spirit of why the narrative has him have the dream. -
- If we wanna focus on Peter's life falling apart, why not Spider-Man Destroyed? - DemKnux (talk) 00:55, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
How about Bales High School Attacker Scorpion? He destroys the floor beneath Peter in the expanding hallway and he attacks Pearl at the school. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 23:04, 15 February 2025 (UTC)
- Can we shorten it to just "High School Attacker Scorpion"? - Raff • Message Wall • Contributions 02:32, 16 February 2025 (UTC)
- If shortening I'd rather go the other way and use Bales Attacker Scorpion, but I'm also open to High School Attacker Scorpion. What do y'all think? - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 14:26, 16 February 2025 (UTC)
- I prefer High School Attacker Scorpion considering Bales is also a person. - GarrettSMW | Message Wall • Contributions 20:23, 16 February 2025 (UTC)
- I'm fine with High School Attacker Scorpion. • MJLogan95 | Message Wall • Contributions 22:38, 16 February 2025 (UTC)
- I prefer High School Attacker Scorpion considering Bales is also a person. - GarrettSMW | Message Wall • Contributions 20:23, 16 February 2025 (UTC)
- If shortening I'd rather go the other way and use Bales Attacker Scorpion, but I'm also open to High School Attacker Scorpion. What do y'all think? -
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Captain America: Brave New World - Take Flight Today[]
Identification[]
Naming[]
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- Red Hulk Rampages
Dam Destroying Red Hulk. - Raff • Message Wall • Contributions 04:17, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
- The main difference would be that Red Hulk is in several attacks aside from the ones we see in the movie. I would suggest Red Hulk Rampages to better highlight the whole game and the main difference. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 16:25, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
- Okay. - Raff • Message Wall • Contributions 05:48, 15 February 2025 (UTC)
- I'm fine with Rampages, plural. It works. • MJLogan95 | Message Wall • Contributions 00:43, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
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Phase One Non-Canon Comics[]
Iron Man: Security Measures[]
Identification[]
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- Identified
The Mark III Iron Man armor is made out of vibranium. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 21:06, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
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Naming[]
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- Vibranium Iron Man Armor
Vibranium Mark III Iron Man is my suggestion. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 21:06, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
- Good with me. - GarrettSMW | Message Wall • Contributions 21:21, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
- I think Vibranium Iron Man Armor is more concise. - Raff • Message Wall • Contributions 02:12, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
- I prefer Vibranium Iron Man Armor as well. • MJLogan95 | Message Wall • Contributions 09:07, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
- Same here. - GarrettSMW | Message Wall • Contributions 16:49, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
- I prefer Vibranium Iron Man Armor as well. • MJLogan95 | Message Wall • Contributions 09:07, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
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Iron Man: Will Online Evils Prevail? Allow[]
Identification[]
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- Identified
The main difference is that Spider-Man and Wolverine are active superheroes in the universe during the time between Iron Man and Iron Man 2, both having toys of them getting sold. The story is Cordo Gaines stealing Tony Stark's identity, leading to his arrest. Gaines gets let out on bail and swears revenge, planning to steal Tony's identity again once he lets his guard down. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 21:06, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
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Naming[]
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- Cordo Gaines Bail Granted
The only thing I can think of covering the actual main difference between universes is Popular Spider-Man and Wolverine but I very much do not like it. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 21:06, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
- If we want to make a name based on Spidey and Wolvie, we can say Early-Emerging Spider-Man and Wolverine. If we want to make a name based on Gaines, we can say Freed Cordo Gaines or Cordo Gaines Bail Granted. - GarrettSMW | Message Wall • Contributions 21:21, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
- Freed Cordo Gaines is fine. - Raff • Message Wall • Contributions 02:13, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
- I'll throw in Cordo Gaines Freed if anyone wants freed to be a verb rather than an adjective. - GarrettSMW | Message Wall • Contributions 03:17, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
- Disagree with using Spider-Man or Wolverine for this differentiative. If he's let out on bail, he isn't quite "free" so I would prefer Cordo Gaines Bail Granted. • MJLogan95 | Message Wall • Contributions 09:07, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
Are we all good with Cordo Gaines Bail Granted? - GarrettSMW | Message Wall • Contributions 19:06, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
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Iron Man: Will Online Evils Prevail? Deny[]
Identification[]
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- Identified
Tony Stark's identity is stolen by Cordo Gaines, who Stark has arrested. Gaines does not get out on bail, and Tony has Pepper Potts help to find the rest of Gaines' men and arrest them. This mission is not completed by the end of the comic. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 21:06, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
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- Cordo Gaines Investigation
Maybe Cordo Gaines Investigation? Pepper and Tony are investigating which of Gaines' men are still around. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 21:06, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
- I don't like that one, considering there must've been an investigation in the Allow universe. I'd say Cordo Gaines Bail Denied. - GarrettSMW | Message Wall • Contributions 21:21, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
- There wasn't the same kind of Pepper/Tony investigation in the Allow ending, we see what they get up to and it's just them at the carnival. That's the choice the reader makes, Tony chooses to do nothing and allows his identity to get stolen again in the future. We don't technically know that Gaines' bail was denied in the Deny ending, we don't see him one way or the other. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 22:03, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
- There wasn't the same kind of Pepper/Tony investigation in the Allow ending, we see what they get up to and it's just them at the carnival. That's the choice the reader makes, Tony chooses to do nothing and allows his identity to get stolen again in the future. We don't technically know that Gaines' bail was denied in the Deny ending, we don't see him one way or the other. -
- Cordo Gaines Imprisoned. - Raff • Message Wall • Contributions 02:14, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
- He was imprisoned in the other universe, he just got out. - GarrettSMW | Message Wall • Contributions 03:01, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
- Yes but he stays in prison, so it still works. - Raff • Message Wall • Contributions 03:07, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
- No, it doesn't. Gaines being imprisoned is not unique to this universe. - GarrettSMW | Message Wall • Contributions 03:16, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
- I agree with Garrett. It’s not particularly unique, especially when the investigation part of it is. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 03:17, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
- I also agree that we shouldn't use Imprisoned if he was imprisoned in both universes. I like Bail Denied, and using Bail Granted for the other one. That is the point of divergence between these two tales alone anyway. • MJLogan95 | Message Wall • Contributions 09:07, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
- We don’t know that his bail was denied though, that’s the thing. We know that in the Allow version his bail was granted and that he was waiting for Tony to let his guard down (hence “allow” online evils to prevail). We don’t know whether that happened in this version. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 14:52, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
- In that case, I'd say Cordo Gaines Investigated or Cordo Gaines' Crew Arrested/Apprehended. - GarrettSMW | Message Wall • Contributions 16:49, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
- Those things didn’t really happen either. It’s Gaines’ associates being investigated based on their association with him, and the comic ends before we can find out if the investigating leads to any arrests. That’s why I was just thinking Cordo Gaines Investigation, because it’s an investigation into Gaines’ affairs and associates separate from Gaines himself that we can’t say with certainty led to any arrests. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 17:20, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
- Oh, thank you for that clarification. See my latest comment then. - GarrettSMW | Message Wall • Contributions 03:40, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
- Those things didn’t really happen either. It’s Gaines’ associates being investigated based on their association with him, and the comic ends before we can find out if the investigating leads to any arrests. That’s why I was just thinking Cordo Gaines Investigation, because it’s an investigation into Gaines’ affairs and associates separate from Gaines himself that we can’t say with certainty led to any arrests. -
- In that case, I'd say Cordo Gaines Investigated or Cordo Gaines' Crew Arrested/Apprehended. - GarrettSMW | Message Wall • Contributions 16:49, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
- Just for clarification, just because it isn't unique does not mean it cannot be used if it is a primary characteristic of the universe. I believe my suggestion is best because it is the opposite of the other option. However, I see that I am outnumbered. I just wanted to clarify. - Raff • Message Wall • Contributions 16:38, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
- Rule 2 of the Naming Guidelines on the Citadel is, and I quote, "Name must be unique, as it should not be able to be applied to two different universes." - GarrettSMW | Message Wall • Contributions 16:45, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
- Not to stray too offtopic, but Rule 3 is what I am talking about. We have many names that apply to multiple universes. Sometimes, the main characteristic can be taken over uniqueness depending on the situation. In the Naming Policy, it says that it should ideally not apply to two universes. - Raff • Message Wall • Contributions 17:01, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
- Rule 2 of the Naming Guidelines on the Citadel is, and I quote, "Name must be unique, as it should not be able to be applied to two different universes." - GarrettSMW | Message Wall • Contributions 16:45, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
- We don’t know that his bail was denied though, that’s the thing. We know that in the Allow version his bail was granted and that he was waiting for Tony to let his guard down (hence “allow” online evils to prevail). We don’t know whether that happened in this version. -
- I agree with Garrett. It’s not particularly unique, especially when the investigation part of it is. -
- No, it doesn't. Gaines being imprisoned is not unique to this universe. - GarrettSMW | Message Wall • Contributions 03:16, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
- Yes but he stays in prison, so it still works. - Raff • Message Wall • Contributions 03:07, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
- He was imprisoned in the other universe, he just got out. - GarrettSMW | Message Wall • Contributions 03:01, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
Summarizing this conversation down here for ease, the usable suggestions have been Cordo Gaines Investigated, Cordo Gaines Investigation, and Cordo Gaines Bail Denied. What are our thoughts on these names? Personally, I still think Investigation is the most accurate. Gaines himself isn't investigated, it's an investigation into his affairs and associates that's separate from him since he's already been accepted. We also don't know whether his bail is denied, or if it's granted and simply not paid, or if maybe he does get out on bail in this universe. Whatever the situation is for Gaines is not confirmed in this ending, so I don't think it would be accurate to say his bail was denied. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 17:14, 4 February 2025 (UTC)
- I'm fine with Cordo Gaines Investigation. • MJLogan95 | Message Wall • Contributions 18:50, 4 February 2025 (UTC)
- I like Cordo Gaines Investigation. - GarrettSMW | Message Wall • Contributions 03:41, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
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Captain America & Thor: Avengers![]
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The Dark Elves are active during Thor's life before the events of Thor. Alflyse is their queen and Malekith is her mage. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 21:06, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
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- Dark Elf Queen Alflyse
Dark Elf Queen Alflyse? - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 21:06, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
- I like it. - GarrettSMW | Message Wall • Contributions 21:21, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
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The Avengers: Iron Man Mark VII[]
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Six months pass between the events of Iron Man and Iron Man 2. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 21:06, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
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- Iron Man Armor Testing Log
Six Month Iron Man Peacekeeping? Describing the fact that Tony's time where he is simply on a peacekeeping mission only lasted six months? - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 21:06, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
- I think it's okay, but someone could probably suggest a better name. - GarrettSMW | Message Wall • Contributions 21:21, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
- I would go with Iron Man Armor Testing Log. - Raff • Message Wall • Contributions 17:33, 4 February 2025 (UTC)
- That could work, using a different feature of the comic given the main difference is hard to consolidate into a simple phrase. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 18:48, 4 February 2025 (UTC)
- That's fine by me. - GarrettSMW | Message Wall • Contributions 19:06, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
- That could work, using a different feature of the comic given the main difference is hard to consolidate into a simple phrase. -
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Nick Fury: Spies Like Us[]
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Nick Fury has lost his eye by the time of the Cold War. Also, Dum Dum Dugan is an active soldier in the same time period. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 00:59, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
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- Cold War Soldier Dum Dum Dugan
Cold War Soldier Dum Dum Dugan? - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 00:59, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
- Okay. - Raff • Message Wall • Contributions 01:01, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
- Reading the wiki page for this comic, Dum Dum Dugan seems to just be there at the end, and the majority of this comic seems to be about Fury in the Cold War. However, given that I can't think of a designation to say "this guy lost his eye by/during the Cold War in this universe", I'm fine with Cold War Soldier Dum Dum Dugan. • MJLogan95 | Message Wall • Contributions 01:19, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
To Logan, the comic is rather short, but Dugan is a pretty big part of it under the monicker "Verliecki". - Raff • Message Wall • Contributions 04:07, 5 February 2025 (UTC)- Scratch that, it seems as though there is an issue with the wiki covering it. - Raff • Message Wall • Contributions 04:09, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
- How about Cold War Monocular Nick Fury? - GarrettSMW | Message Wall • Contributions 03:45, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
- In the scientific descriptor, sure, but "monocular" can also mean the device (monocular with one scope, binocular has two) or a monocle. • MJLogan95 | Message Wall • Contributions 15:06, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
- The term is a bit too specific I think to be applicable to Fury. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 22:08, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
- The term is a bit too specific I think to be applicable to Fury. -
- In the scientific descriptor, sure, but "monocular" can also mean the device (monocular with one scope, binocular has two) or a monocle. • MJLogan95 | Message Wall • Contributions 15:06, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
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Later Non-Canon Comics[]
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.: The Chase[]
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A terrorist cell creates a weapon combining Overkill and Chitauri technology, which Phil Coulson's S.H.I.E.L.D. team capture. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 22:40, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
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- Overkill Chitauri Hybrid Tech
Overkill Chitauri Fusion Technology? - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 22:40, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
- Overkill-Chitauri Technology Fusion or Overkill-Chitauri Tech Fusion. - GarrettSMW | Message Wall • Contributions 22:42, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
- Overkill-Chitauri Hybrid Tech? • MJLogan95 | Message Wall • Contributions 22:51, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
- I don't like it. Hybrid implies living. Even our definition of hybrid in our glossary is, "Hybrids, sometimes called "Half-breeds", are the result of the cross between two species..." - GarrettSMW | Message Wall • Contributions 23:07, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
- "Half-breeds" yuck. To be fair though, Adrian Toomes' weapons are called hybrid technology in Spider-Man: Homecoming. • MJLogan95 | Message Wall • Contributions 23:11, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
- That may be the case, but that term isn't the best fit in this case. - GarrettSMW | Message Wall • Contributions 23:22, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
- The term fits very well. That's one definition, but another, equally valid definition, is "a thing made by combining two different elements; a mixture." "Hybrid technology" refers to the combination of two technologies. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 02:18, 12 February 2025 (UTC)
- The term fits very well. That's one definition, but another, equally valid definition, is "a thing made by combining two different elements; a mixture." "Hybrid technology" refers to the combination of two technologies. -
- That may be the case, but that term isn't the best fit in this case. - GarrettSMW | Message Wall • Contributions 23:22, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
- Also, the "Hybrid" section in our Glossary is specifically referring to organic beings, as it's there for the purposes of denoting living hybrids. This doesn't mean that any and all usage of the word "hybrid" on the site must be relegated to living beings. • MJLogan95 | Message Wall • Contributions 03:23, 12 February 2025 (UTC)
- I think hybrid definitely works. - Raff • Message Wall • Contributions 01:41, 16 February 2025 (UTC)
- "Half-breeds" yuck. To be fair though, Adrian Toomes' weapons are called hybrid technology in Spider-Man: Homecoming. • MJLogan95 | Message Wall • Contributions 23:11, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
- I don't like it. Hybrid implies living. Even our definition of hybrid in our glossary is, "Hybrids, sometimes called "Half-breeds", are the result of the cross between two species..." - GarrettSMW | Message Wall • Contributions 23:07, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
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Manga[]
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Tony decides to build Ultron as a program to “debug” the world’s problems independently from Bruce and without the scepter. This is done so that he can retire as Iron Man. Doctor Strange has a brother named Victor and a romance with a coworker named Gemma. The Guardians of the Galaxy go to Earth and interact with the human population. This applies to Avengers: Age of Ultron: Episode 0, Doctor Strange, and The Guardians of the Galaxy: Remix Special 4-Frame. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 22:40, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
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- Heroic Japanese Excursions
I think the easiest to focus on would be the Guardians visiting. Maybe Guardians of the Galaxy Earth Excursion. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 22:40, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
- Yeah but the Guardians have visited Earth in the main timeline too. The other two (Iron Man's Ultron Program and Strange having a brother) seem like more pivotal things to focus on. • MJLogan95 | Message Wall • Contributions 23:10, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
I'd say Brother Doctor Strange or Brother Stephen Strange, similar to Bride Gamora. - GarrettSMW | Message Wall • Contributions 22:45, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
- Doctor Strange is a brother in the main universe and in the Variant Killer Strange Universe as well though. The reason it's a difference is that instead of a sister named Donna, he has a brother. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 22:51, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
It's not mentioned in the Identification, but Victor Strange's page says he was in an accident, so I'll say Victor Strange Accident. • MJLogan95 | Message Wall • Contributions 23:13, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
- Good with me. - GarrettSMW | Message Wall • Contributions 23:23, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
- Not mentioned in the identification but both the Guardians and Dr. Strange visit various parts of Japan in this universe so I'd suggest Heroic Japanese Vacations. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DemKnux (message wall • contribs)
- I didn't realize Strange also went to Japan, focusing on that might be better to get two out of three comics in there. Instead of "vacations" though since we don't know the specific reason, maybe Heroes in Japan? - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 00:27, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- I like Heroes in Japan. - DemKnux (talk) 16:18, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- Sounds good. - Raff • Message Wall • Contributions 16:25, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- Personally not a fan of "Heroes in Japan" but I do agree that using "vacation" is too presumptuous. Heroic Japanese Excursions maybe? • MJLogan95 | Message Wall • Contributions 02:10, 16 February 2025 (UTC)
- That works for me. Everyone else? - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 14:27, 16 February 2025 (UTC)
- That works for me. Everyone else? -
- I like Heroes in Japan. - DemKnux (talk) 16:18, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- I didn't realize Strange also went to Japan, focusing on that might be better to get two out of three comics in there. Instead of "vacations" though since we don't know the specific reason, maybe Heroes in Japan? -
- Not mentioned in the identification but both the Guardians and Dr. Strange visit various parts of Japan in this universe so I'd suggest Heroic Japanese Vacations. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DemKnux (message wall • contribs)
After a full eight days without disagreement, it was decided to go with Heroic Japanese Excursions. - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 00:39, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
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Spider-Man: Homecoming: School of Shock[]
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- Lone Criminal Shocker
Maybe Lone Criminal Shocker? - Jessica3801 💕💕🏳️⚧️ | Message Wall • Contributions 00:41, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
- Sure. - Raff • Message Wall • Contributions 04:52, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
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