As the previous thread reaches its end, this thread will continue the discussion of the timeline in the MCU.
As the previous thread reaches its end, this thread will continue the discussion of the timeline in the MCU.
Well, if that's the intention, and Fitz's line has a valid explanation for a 1955 split, and Kora's lines about Sousa have (less good, but still valid) explanations for a 1955 split, I feel like that's enough, no? Intention is important.
I really think they would have addressed Enoch being stranded in the MCU present day. The show has never left loose ends. Well anyway, I won't begin a discussion but I do not believe that is the current case.
Brett3801 wrote: Well, if that's the intention, and Fitz's line has a valid explanation for a 1955 split, and Kora's lines about Sousa have (less good, but still valid) explanations for a 1955 split, I feel like that's enough, no? Intention is important.
Fully agreed.
Marvelus wrote: I really think they would have addressed Enoch being stranded in the MCU present day. The show has never left loose ends. Well anyway, I won't begin a discussion but I do not believe that is the current case.
Lol Vijay Nadeer would have something to say about "The show has never left loose ends".
Obviously we've discussed this in private and why I really don't think Enoch is much of an issue, given a) his track record with getting out of the way to just chill in space when it comes to time loops, b) that they already don't address at least one Enoch, the younger one in Deke's timeline, c) they want the emotional weight of Enoch's death to linger, so particularly wouldn't want to visit another Enoch (like the younger one in Deke's timeline) especially given they've already done that once, and d) there's barely any time in the main timeline, and that time is spent wrapping up stories without any necessity to get into another timeline-y explanation only to introduce a small thing in the last 10 minutes. That I feel Enoch is just a little side-effect of the result of the evidence.
But we've agreed to disagree on this, I guess.
This was brought up to some extent at the time, but the Episode 7 tag raises some questions. If not for the tag, then a gap of a fair amount of time could be comfortably inserted between the battle in the Lighthouse and May and Yo-Yo arriving and reuniting with Mack. However, this is then followed by the tag of the Time Stream getting to Nathaniel. The tags are almost always set chronologically last, because they're the last scene of the episode instead of separated by credits like a film post-credits scene. But that scene should not really be more than a few days after the battle, and that would therefore mean, with the May and Yo-Yo reunion between the scenes, that that reunion should also be no more than a few days after the battle.
Except some other evidence does suggest that the battle should be earlier in 1983, with a wider gap. But this would go against the chronology of the tag. So, I've compiled the evidence either way.
(For context, Brett3801 and I both made estimates at Mack's beard lengths, and Brett3801's calculations would project, based on Mack's rate of growth, the bar and battle scenes as around February, while my calculations would project it as around late June. Hence saying February-June.)
OPTION 1: THE BATTLE IS FEBRUARY-JUNE (c. APRIL). THE CREDITS SCENE IS A FLASHBACK.
This would entail:
This would come from:
OPTION 2: THE BATTLE IS SEPTEMBER. THE CREDITS SCENE IS LAST.
This would entail:
This would come from:
So, any thoughts on which way to go with this (or some outside-the-box ideas), guys?
I believe it's early 1983, using Mack's beard to place it, since the idea is that the growth is meant to show how long it is. The episode is already breaking for a decent amount, so this ins't too bad, especially when more evidence places it there.
I do agree with the first option. Seems better as it implies it has been sometime between the battle and Yo-Yo and May's arrival, which fits with the episode.
Guys, there is a page called "Marvel Cinematic Universe MX" that has created galleries of the timeline using ours. And we got a lot of love. And those galleries also link to the wiki pages. We have fans out there!