<p>It seems to me that in the MCU Universe humanity is at war/struggle with alien races (Kree, Skrulls, Celestials, Frost Giants, bad Asgardians, Thanos,etc). Humans also are powerless against superpowered villians, unless saved by a superhero. A possible solution would be to upgrade the human race, give everyone powers, so nobody is a threat, because everyone is equal.</p><p>
</p><p> You could do this by giving every human being the super soldier serum, or a version of it, or a stabilized version of the Extremis virus. This would make the human race free of disease and deformities, as well as living stronger/smater lives, with the ability to protect ourselves better against supervillian or alien threats. </p><p>
</p><p>You could also incorporate Ironman armor into that imagine the earth consisting of Captain American/extremis soldiers, with Ironman armor? What are your thoughts?</p>
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<p>I'll look it up again but I thought the MCU sight here has his page listed as a Spiderman Ally.</p>
<p>When I say that the whole human race gets enhanced, I mean one type of enhancement for everyone, not involving Corp. Businesses, govs, I would mean an individual like Tony Stark when he put a version of the Extremis virus in the water infecting everyone (in comics). But he was evil at that time and forced people $100 a day to keep your powers turned on, but minus the money and the turning powers off. </p><p>
</p><p>This would be one way for it to happen, however you lose the free will aspect, though there is no negative or threat to humanity from the enhancement. The main free will acceptance of this situation would be that a significant portion of humans would voluntarily take the enhancement for fear of safety for them and their children from invading alien armies(Chitauri, Kree, Skrulls, Asgardians, Ego, Thanos second army, the many alien groups from shield episodes, Ultron and AI. ) Others would take it to cure lost limbs ( veterans)or injuries for themself or children, mental impairments, psychological issues. A small portion may deny it but they will have to reproduce with others eventually who have the enhancement, which having affected their dna will be passed on to their children. The rest will voluntary take it, or die out due to constant invasion assaults, or be inhuman, evolve into a possible mutant, or upgrade with machinary/cyborgs.</p><p>
</p><p>The serum is in caps blood, they can get it out, Bucky has a version of sss, Red skull blood, the army has a version given to Emil blonsky, Howard made a version (though will severe anger issues but I'm sure Tony could fix that ), Luke cage experiments renewed by doctor on his bro, blood of black panther, if time stone is retrieved then they could bring back destroyed heart shaped herbs, ssserum, and tablet from Odins vault with formula to make you the Pinnacle of your species, they fixed the Extremis boom problem in shield series with blood platelets from a guy with fire powers, the Hyde formula, cybernetics. They have options to have a universal serum. </p><p>
</p><p>Steve Rogers had almost every medical issue fixed major and minor, I highly doubt anyone would be immune but if their is then they would stay human, and be protected or enhance themselves another way, macanical or mystical. The red skull had an incomplete version of the ssserum, which had bad side effects.</p><p>
</p><p>I am only talking about outside threats, every society in MCU and real life always has criminals or those seeking power and to do harm. Even if you made humans weaker you will never solve that problem. I'm saying you need to be strong enough to survive outside Invaders, so that you have people alive to have those internal power struggles that don't go away, or else slavery and extinction.</p><p>
</p><p>Some people may be content with their own lives, but the vast majority of humanity strives for improvement and evolution.</p><p>
</p><p>I agree from a story perspective humans need to be weaker and protected, and this will never happen, or at least not to a lasting result. I meant my original question from a logical basis on the MCU Universe. I do not mean to sound heartless or macabre, but fact is like vaccines in this world, those who don't take them will be weak/susceptible to disease or war, and either change their mind, not make a deal about it because they are saved by those enhanced, or just die leaving only the enhanced.</p><p>
</p><p>Thank you everyone for your intelligent and interesting comments. I enjoy getting to talk about matters like this, not many to do this with in the real world.</p>
</p><p>This would be one way for it to happen, however you lose the free will aspect, though there is no negative or threat to humanity from the enhancement. The main free will acceptance of this situation would be that a significant portion of humans would voluntarily take the enhancement for fear of safety for them and their children from invading alien armies(Chitauri, Kree, Skrulls, Asgardians, Ego, Thanos second army, the many alien groups from shield episodes, Ultron and AI. ) Others would take it to cure lost limbs ( veterans)or injuries for themself or children, mental impairments, psychological issues. A small portion may deny it but they will have to reproduce with others eventually who have the enhancement, which having affected their dna will be passed on to their children. The rest will voluntary take it, or die out due to constant invasion assaults, or be inhuman, evolve into a possible mutant, or upgrade with machinary/cyborgs.</p><p>
</p><p>The serum is in caps blood, they can get it out, Bucky has a version of sss, Red skull blood, the army has a version given to Emil blonsky, Howard made a version (though will severe anger issues but I'm sure Tony could fix that ), Luke cage experiments renewed by doctor on his bro, blood of black panther, if time stone is retrieved then they could bring back destroyed heart shaped herbs, ssserum, and tablet from Odins vault with formula to make you the Pinnacle of your species, they fixed the Extremis boom problem in shield series with blood platelets from a guy with fire powers, the Hyde formula, cybernetics. They have options to have a universal serum. </p><p>
</p><p>Steve Rogers had almost every medical issue fixed major and minor, I highly doubt anyone would be immune but if their is then they would stay human, and be protected or enhance themselves another way, macanical or mystical. The red skull had an incomplete version of the ssserum, which had bad side effects.</p><p>
</p><p>I am only talking about outside threats, every society in MCU and real life always has criminals or those seeking power and to do harm. Even if you made humans weaker you will never solve that problem. I'm saying you need to be strong enough to survive outside Invaders, so that you have people alive to have those internal power struggles that don't go away, or else slavery and extinction.</p><p>
</p><p>Some people may be content with their own lives, but the vast majority of humanity strives for improvement and evolution.</p><p>
</p><p>I agree from a story perspective humans need to be weaker and protected, and this will never happen, or at least not to a lasting result. I meant my original question from a logical basis on the MCU Universe. I do not mean to sound heartless or macabre, but fact is like vaccines in this world, those who don't take them will be weak/susceptible to disease or war, and either change their mind, not make a deal about it because they are saved by those enhanced, or just die leaving only the enhanced.</p><p>
</p><p>Thank you everyone for your intelligent and interesting comments. I enjoy getting to talk about matters like this, not many to do this with in the real world.</p>
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<p>Reasons are not excuses, they show us what we need to do different next time. I don't search for perfection in any form (moral, physical, spiritual), because it doesn't exist. We all have brief fleeting moments in our lives that we consider and remember as perfect, but as a goal or status, it doesn't exist. The reason is we can reach a goal, but continue on and grow beyond that, so we never reach perfection, because we have no limits, are growth is infinite as human beings that is our evolution.</p>
<p>Being selfish is a flaw of all sentient emotional species, wisdom is gained through mistakes. That flaw can't be fixed because it's the human part of us that makes us who we are. We can try to be better, but unless we go total machine logical based thinking, we can never get to be better people.</p>
<p>No matter how good or moral you are, it doesn't stop immoral stronger people from killing you. </p><p>
</p><p>Point: Do criminals and bad people in society, stop doing crimes because the police are morally right, or because the are physically fit, with superior numbers, and fire power.</p><p>
</p><p>I believe in morals, but if that is all you needed then Steve Rogers could have stopped Hydra/Nazis with no ssserum, however reality while not in a real universe, but still based on logic, says the reason Cap did what he did, he only did by getting powers, his morals didn't keep him warm Frozen in ice the ssserum did.</p><p>
</p><p>In a world we're everyone is a super human godlike being, who cares that you are the same as everyone else.</p><p>
</p><p>Quick question, would you rather be superpowered the same as everyone else to live stronger,smater, better, or be the strongest/smartest regular human, even if your race was wiped out or enslaved by another race? If everyone was Thor or cap marvel powered would that be boring to you? Yeah flying is boring if everyone can do it, no way it would be awesome. Everyone is still special because of personality, not just ability.</p>
</p><p>Point: Do criminals and bad people in society, stop doing crimes because the police are morally right, or because the are physically fit, with superior numbers, and fire power.</p><p>
</p><p>I believe in morals, but if that is all you needed then Steve Rogers could have stopped Hydra/Nazis with no ssserum, however reality while not in a real universe, but still based on logic, says the reason Cap did what he did, he only did by getting powers, his morals didn't keep him warm Frozen in ice the ssserum did.</p><p>
</p><p>In a world we're everyone is a super human godlike being, who cares that you are the same as everyone else.</p><p>
</p><p>Quick question, would you rather be superpowered the same as everyone else to live stronger,smater, better, or be the strongest/smartest regular human, even if your race was wiped out or enslaved by another race? If everyone was Thor or cap marvel powered would that be boring to you? Yeah flying is boring if everyone can do it, no way it would be awesome. Everyone is still special because of personality, not just ability.</p>
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<p>I'm not talking about random mutant powers, I'm saying everyone has increased strength, durability, and the recovery, regeneration. No, kid could hurt each other or anyone, anymore than they could as regular humans. Can a kid in elementary or secondary school not strike or stab with scissors another kid and hurt them or kill them? Yes they can, but adults teach them not to.</p><p>
</p><p> If everyone is superpowered Extremis stabilized or ssserum, every kid would be equally strong, the teachers would be stronger to stop any truly unruley individuals. Also, they would have boosted to Extremis level durability to take any damage, and the ability to regenerate limbs and whole portions of their body, fire resistant.</p><p>
</p><p> We wouldn't really need hospitals to the extent we do now, even mentally duranged people would be cured. The only issue would be damage to building structures, but super powered construction workers could fix it without bull dozers or machines. Ultimately, people would follow the rules like most do now adays, why, because the whole police force is extremist, super soldiers, and you would die or go to jail.</p><p>
</p><p>Look at Asgardians, their base level strength is to lift 25 tons, that is equal to an adult Spiderman or greater. That means every kid Jane Foster met in Thor 2, could tear her apart with their bare hands, yet she and the other kids were not. Kree, Skrulls, whatever the race once they have equal strength, the problems in a normal society remain the same.</p><p>
</p><p>Also, they do have force field tech in MCU, place shields around buildings and random destruction can be avoided. Example: Asgard has buildings not destroyed by it's people, just the vastly more powerful ones like Thor.</p>
</p><p> If everyone is superpowered Extremis stabilized or ssserum, every kid would be equally strong, the teachers would be stronger to stop any truly unruley individuals. Also, they would have boosted to Extremis level durability to take any damage, and the ability to regenerate limbs and whole portions of their body, fire resistant.</p><p>
</p><p> We wouldn't really need hospitals to the extent we do now, even mentally duranged people would be cured. The only issue would be damage to building structures, but super powered construction workers could fix it without bull dozers or machines. Ultimately, people would follow the rules like most do now adays, why, because the whole police force is extremist, super soldiers, and you would die or go to jail.</p><p>
</p><p>Look at Asgardians, their base level strength is to lift 25 tons, that is equal to an adult Spiderman or greater. That means every kid Jane Foster met in Thor 2, could tear her apart with their bare hands, yet she and the other kids were not. Kree, Skrulls, whatever the race once they have equal strength, the problems in a normal society remain the same.</p><p>
</p><p>Also, they do have force field tech in MCU, place shields around buildings and random destruction can be avoided. Example: Asgard has buildings not destroyed by it's people, just the vastly more powerful ones like Thor.</p>
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<p>That's the gun and internet excuse applied to people with powers compared to those who don't, tools aren't bad and good people are. If they don't have the power to destroy the earth, then no matter how powerful they are it wouldn't matter, because everyone else would be just as strong. For every Red Skull megomanic which would be few not the norm, their would be an innocent mom or dad to beat the hell out them. No one would be better than anyone else they would be all the same.</p><p>
</p><p>Who would not want to be smarter,stronger, be able to protect themselves and family, fix any handycap physically or mentally, and live longer. The smarter we are we can build more spaceships and leave earth, if groups of the human race don't get along or need to be exiled for crimes. Plus all species go through evolution, if the human race was at it's peak right now, then our race wouldn't survive itself let alone aliens.</p><p>
</p><p>Would Red Skull even be a threat to the world without Zola's weapons, planes, tanks, and guns? Zola was just human and he was the main power to take over the world. Take Red Skull and Hydra out of the story. Would Hitler with the cosmic cube powered devices that Zola created, not have just as easily beaten and taken over the world? The answer is yes. </p>
</p><p>Who would not want to be smarter,stronger, be able to protect themselves and family, fix any handycap physically or mentally, and live longer. The smarter we are we can build more spaceships and leave earth, if groups of the human race don't get along or need to be exiled for crimes. Plus all species go through evolution, if the human race was at it's peak right now, then our race wouldn't survive itself let alone aliens.</p><p>
</p><p>Would Red Skull even be a threat to the world without Zola's weapons, planes, tanks, and guns? Zola was just human and he was the main power to take over the world. Take Red Skull and Hydra out of the story. Would Hitler with the cosmic cube powered devices that Zola created, not have just as easily beaten and taken over the world? The answer is yes. </p>
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<p>50 or if he makes a new one.</p>
<p>If it deals with time or another dimension it may never be destroyed. Thor also could just rebuild it in Norway.</p>
<p>Ultron merged with his Creator Hank pym in the comics. Tony becoming an AI or merginging with one would be cool.</p>
<p>Strange's sorcerer brother Woo can make a portal. Tony may now make Woo a groomsman at the wedding, maybe the bestman, haha</p>
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<p>Have Quill keep his ability to use Celestial powers, not all powerful, but to still have him at base level with the option for growth, without completely neutering him.</p><p>
</p><p>Be cool if Pepper kept her Extremis powers</p><p>
</p><p>Thanos to break caps shield, which may still happen.</p><p>
</p><p>Tony Stark to upgrade himself with the Extremis virus like in the comics, mentally and to be a technopath. </p><p>
</p><p>It was cool how Loki killed Algrim, but I wanted to see a fight of strength between him and Thor.</p><p>
</p><p>Sure there's more but need to remember, although I like for the most part the MCU Universe.</p>
</p><p>Be cool if Pepper kept her Extremis powers</p><p>
</p><p>Thanos to break caps shield, which may still happen.</p><p>
</p><p>Tony Stark to upgrade himself with the Extremis virus like in the comics, mentally and to be a technopath. </p><p>
</p><p>It was cool how Loki killed Algrim, but I wanted to see a fight of strength between him and Thor.</p><p>
</p><p>Sure there's more but need to remember, although I like for the most part the MCU Universe.</p>
<p>Gene manipulation, causing mutation, something like crisper.</p>
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<p>No offense at all given or taken, it's things like this in life that give me best laughs or enjoyments in life. When you (meaning me) write something intended one way and you (meaning me) completely miss possible alternative contexts from others point of view, that's on me. Happy belated Holidays!😊</p>
<p>Haha not preaching, no in Marvel comics the main being or God is named, The One Above All, not Christian God. He is the boss of the Living Tribunal, and not to be confused with the Celestial leader with the same name or close to it. I recently have seen they have possibly a main evil called The One Below All. </p>
<p>Haha, it will be like South Park epic battle where the angel Michael talks about how epic it is, while the audience sees nothing.</p>
<p>You seem to just change what was quoted into a variation that goes along with what you want it to be, instead of it's direct meaning? </p><p>
</p><p>Logically, they are both, because while they remain exactly what they are, but they are defined as by others in different ways. God's are from or live in the heavens vs aliens who come from outer space, just above the heavens and not known about fully from primitive man. </p><p>
</p><p>The Asgardians were/are aliens who are seen as God's, Frost Giants who are aliens we're seen as monsters or God's, the Kree we're seen as blue Angels from the heavens and they are aliens from outer space, the skrulls who are aliens could have been called shapeshifters or tricksters by primitive man, sense they are found in Earth among us in Cap. Marvel. Ego, Starlords dad was called by his mom an angel, by others and god, small g, and celestials super powerful alien race. The Ancient one an immortal magical being and a human who learned to control universal energy, Dormomu a monster or devil/ dark god being vs alien from another dimension.</p><p>
</p><p> They are the same thing just described differently by the understanding and education of the people who are describing them.</p><p>
</p><p>Cap is best friends with a god, it just happens that cap believes in the Judeao Christian God, other people have different beliefs, it doesn't make their god not a God. Also, this is Marvel there are many god's, but only one true God, The One Above All.</p>
</p><p>Logically, they are both, because while they remain exactly what they are, but they are defined as by others in different ways. God's are from or live in the heavens vs aliens who come from outer space, just above the heavens and not known about fully from primitive man. </p><p>
</p><p>The Asgardians were/are aliens who are seen as God's, Frost Giants who are aliens we're seen as monsters or God's, the Kree we're seen as blue Angels from the heavens and they are aliens from outer space, the skrulls who are aliens could have been called shapeshifters or tricksters by primitive man, sense they are found in Earth among us in Cap. Marvel. Ego, Starlords dad was called by his mom an angel, by others and god, small g, and celestials super powerful alien race. The Ancient one an immortal magical being and a human who learned to control universal energy, Dormomu a monster or devil/ dark god being vs alien from another dimension.</p><p>
</p><p> They are the same thing just described differently by the understanding and education of the people who are describing them.</p><p>
</p><p>Cap is best friends with a god, it just happens that cap believes in the Judeao Christian God, other people have different beliefs, it doesn't make their god not a God. Also, this is Marvel there are many god's, but only one true God, The One Above All.</p>
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<p>As said by Dr. Jane Foster an advanced alien race's technology, as well as natural abilities, would seem like magic to people/humans who are too primitive, or lack knowledge of certain sciences, which would mean God's=aliens and magic=science, or like Thor say's where I come from it's one and the same.</p><p>
</p><p>Kree were called the blue Angels by past primitives of n shield series.</p>
</p><p>Kree were called the blue Angels by past primitives of n shield series.</p>
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<p>Why would aliens and God's be different things, they are the same things, they just go by different names to describe the same thing. You can be a dad and be a mailman, it doesn't mean ones different from the other they are both the same person, just described by two different views of the same person.</p>