Interesting analysis about the possibility of Iron Man seeing Lady Death in the MCU
https://youtu.be/P5P7cAuS1-w?si=kHfg8ojEOn6ANotQ
^yes
“Created”, “conjured”, “used Chaos magic” are all referencing the same thing in the context of this series. Billy was the one who brought the road into existence either way.
Well at least she won’t be draining witches to death anymore.
Now she will just be advising Billy to go find his brother… or maybe just go join the young avengers or whatever. Haha
Now that we know Billy literally conjured the witches road out of thin air, it will be interesting to see what else he is capable of conjuring.
It kinda depends on whether the public singing of that song had Lorna Wu in the audience.
Otherwise, all the other witches who ever heard that song wound up dead, so they never had the opportunity to retell that song to others.
It was already established in episode 2 that Lorna Wu was a witch as well.
I gotta give the props to the people who wrote the music for this series. I believe it was done by the same couple who did the music on the Wandavision series, which also had fantastic music.
Not only is the Witches Road ballad very memorable, but they even created different versions of the same song, which appeared all thru the episodes. It was awesome.
That little end credits music which played in the finale, with the stringed instruments giving it a proper medieval "witchy" mood was so nicely done. And the end credits music itself was yet a stringed instrument version of the Witches Road ballad.
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Of course, speaking of the Witches Road Ballad, there is yet another open question which I am sure we will never get an answer to.
How did Lorna Wu ever get to learn about it and its lyrics? The season finale obviously drove the point that Agatha herself created that ballad out of thin air. And yet every witch who ever got to hear that song wound up getting eliminated by Agatha.
So how did Lorna know about it, even to the point of recording it, making it a pop song with a cult following, when it was all written by Agatha just to lure unsuspecting witches to their demise?
There has got to be an interesting story behind how Lorna got to hear of it.... and survive.
We will never know for sure, it seems.
Agatha claims she did not sacrifice herself for Billy. And that it was a "calculated risk" or something like that.
It doesn't fully explain truly why she sacrificed herself, which seems a bit unclear.
The only clue is that she was triggered to do it when Billy reminded her of her dead son.
So maybe one can infer that she wanted to meet up with her son in the afterlife? But then that conflicts with the final outcome where she did not wind up meeting her son after all, and chose to stay with her "proxy son", aka, Billy.
Maybe she self sacrificed because she knew she spent most of her life killing witches with that Road scam. Not sure.
It's kinda confusing with the switching motivations, but whatever.
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An unrelated question which I am sure some will ask is that if Rio is death, how come we never saw her prior to now when other important MCU characters die? For example, Rio was not there in Endgame when Tony Stark died.
The only plausible explanation might be that she only appears to other witches who can "see" her. Normal non-witches never get to see her.
I have my doubts about Billy having any type of beef with Rio. Nothing in the series thus far would suddenly cause Billy to pick up and fight Rio.
Especially once everyone understands that Rio is just doing what she naturally does. Calling for the dead or visiting those who are about to die.
The worst animus Billy would have against Rio is for the death of Wanda, but then again he just got done denying wanda is his real mother, so….
I am not saying there won’t be some sort of drama between them. But it is not like Billy is not going to defeat Death or anything.
He would more likely take up against Agatha than Rio.
I agree that a "showdown" with Rio is not necessarily guaranteed.
It is only a reveal to the audience that Rio is actually death.
Meanwhile, Agatha has known who Rio was all along. Agatha may not like Rio being around, but its not like Agatha is looking to exterminate her.
Then again, considering the sword immediately above the chair Lilly was sitting in had already fallen, then all she had to do was to remain seated and cause all the other remaining swords to fall. The Salem Seven witches get impaled, but Lilly is unaffected just chilling in her chair. Roll credits.
Not all of the Salem seven were killed. There were only five bodies shown.
Of course, now it makes one want to go back and rewatch all those scenes with Agatha and Rio.
And to think, Agatha almost kissed Rio that one time.
That would have been the kiss of death! Lol
“She’s not my mom!” -Teen
I liked the episode.
I wouldn’t be surprised if one of these remaining episodes Agatha goes thru some sort of reckoning, for all the bad things she has done.
This has already happened, in part, with the appearance of her dead mother.
For example, Alice Wu’s mother could show up (she was rumored to be “trapped in the road”, after all) and confront Agatha for killing the daughter she was trying so hard to protect with her song.
Even the ghostly spirit of Agatha’s dead son Nicholas, could show up to put the heavy guilt on her.
There are other possibilities of reanimated people too.
Such a reckoning could make sense for Agatha’s growth as a character.
Maybe. But that also implies that a witch like Wanda is incapable of recognizing her own kids being reincarnated else where. Her own kids.
Not very convincing.
We can’t have it both ways really.
We cannot on the one hand, say that The Scarlet witch is the top tier witch in the MCU who is so immensely powerful that she can potentially defeat Thanos, but then in the next breath say that she is such a dopey doofus she cannot recognize or sense her own children surviving in the spirit realm mere moments after she made them disappear.
Wanda is smarter and more powerful than Agatha but even Agatha could recognize Wanda’s son, whereas Wanda herself could not?
Darkhold was not powerful enough to cloud Wanda’s judgement and ability to recognize the presence of her sons while the Hex was active, but suddenly it controls her judgement a few seconds later, after the hex is gone? Sure. Makes sense.
The Darkhold is the magic wand which fixes everything, maybe.
Only problem with “the Darkhold clouded her senses” argument is that Billy Maximoff was yelling out Tommy’s name only moments after the Hex collapse and Wanda had not yet been totally corrupted fully by the Darkhold only seconds after its collapse.
She did not even sense her twins at that point yet. While their memory was fresh in her mind.
We don’t see her actively reading/studying the Darkhold until she had retreated in the Wandavision epilogue much later.
Meanwhile tommy and Billy were around the entire time.
Perhaps one of my disappointments about this path they have chosen with the narrative, is that it seems to break their own in-universe rules.
How could a super powerful Scarlet Witch, empowered even with the Darkhold, not even be aware that this son of hers was alive? Billy took over William’s body as soon as the Westview hex was gone.
Wanda even goes across the multiverse, killing people left and right along the way, just to get her hands on an alternate Billy and Tommy, and yet she mysteriously cannot sense the presence of her sons in the current universe this entire time? Had she known, she could have avoided her entire MoM killing spree and attempted suicide.
They had better come up with a plausible explanation for this, because Wanda was the one who created them. You’d think she’d recognize her own work in the spiritual realm. But no, she can only sense a Tommy and Billy from a completely different universe. Yeah, that makes sense.
Stop making so much sense, @Atari Chris !
If Wanda actually was aware of Westview Billy, she’d not have a need to go thru the multiverse to get her hands on twins from another time line, further she’d have no desire to kill herself at the end of that movie