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Was just being clear which part was a reply to you.

I promise you, Jane's photo is not among the Blipped in any scene.

@IronWidowMaikuB I'm not really following the theory. Thor is broken because it's partially his fault that trillions of lives across the universe have been lost, including multiple personal losses. And some people are still in his life at least, but Jane isn't even one of them, since as he says, he's upset they aren't together anymore. The 4 or 5-year discrepancy in Jane's line is also in no way indicated to be about the Blip, with the point of the joke being how Thor is keeping count and she isn't, which is undone by Blip subtext. However, you're welcome to theorise that Jane died in the Blip if you feel that works best - I'm not here saying she definitely survived. What I am saying is that there's mixed information, it's never been clearly defined that she Blipped, and there's in fact a lot of evidence to suggest she more likely didn't.

@Panloopticon Jane isn't one of them.

Thor's already lost Jane, as in the breakup. He's closing himself off at that point, there's no way he had a shot at even trying again.

"And oh, you know, Jane and I aren't even dating anymore. These things happen though, you know, nothing lasts forever." That doesn't sound like someone talking about a dead person.

I'm certainly inclined to not rule it out of canon at least.

It's not confirmed that she died, and has been implied she survived.

The Love and Thunder joke is about how she hasn't been keeping track as carefully as Thor, therefore implying that there is no other excuse otherwise the point of the joke is lost.

Thor is upset about being broken up with her in Endgame, not that she is currently dead.

The script that mentioned her is very much an early stages script and includes characters as Blipped who have been confirmed not to, invalidating it as a source on this. The fact that she didn't make it to the final film in that scene if anything could just as easily be taken as suggesting they decided she in fact didn't Blip.

Meanwhile, The Cosmic Quest Vol. 2 has her alive during the Blip. Its canon status has never been confirmed, but nor has it been denied.

"At least we now know where these shows are in the timeline."

The official timeline book.

Helstrom has been dated to October 2020, it's just not on the pages.

Guardians 3 has been dated to September 2026, it's just not on the pages.

The Marvels for now is in November 2026 but subject to change.

And as you say, he was only there for 5 hours, it's only in the world outside that 5 years passed in that time.

"We don't know anything about this place. I mean, not even how time works down here. Have we been gone for seconds, or have we been out for years?"

It's unpredictable. Time is weird and different in the Quantum Realm, and most likely in different parts of it, particularly given the "time vortex" line in Ant-Man and the Wasp.

Sometimes/some parts it's about linear to Earth. Some much faster.

The main ones are said to be 30 years ago, so late 1995 or 1996. The Maria one is presumably 2019/2020. Hope that's a start at least.

@Marvelus You did not just say #3.

Give us time to update.

That's roughly what's been decided to make up for Marvel's error, yes.

A few things to address here, in response to everyone.

1. Yes, Love and Thunder should take place in May 2024, and we had it as such. It's not our mistake that it has been put in 2025, and things like the Screen Rant article aren't working on better info than us, they are in agreement with us from the time and are now outdated, like our work.

2. This is because the timeline book just canonically pinned it to "Fall 2025", as much as we hate it. Nothing that can be done about this. The placement had to move in accordance with this.

3. Extremely extensive discussions have been going on for a couple of months about everything that needed editing relating to the timeline due to the timeline book. A lot of work has been going into it to make hundreds of necessary edits and pick up on the consequential edits because of those edits. We have done very well with this, having covered 99% of it all on a coordinated effort moving things together.

4. A handful of things either slipped through the cracks of the edits or were intentionally reserved to come back to after the first wave of major edits. Changes to Thor and Jane's relationship in 2015-2017 were discussed along with everything else, but have already been noticed as having not made it to the edit stage yet, lined up to edit very shortly as the remaining bits and pieces are swept up.

5. Love and Thunder has only just been edited, and that relationship stuff will be edited imminently to reflect it. While ideally it would have been edited simultaneously, like I say it is simply one of the 1% of bits that didn't quite get done simultaneously and are being circled back to. We just happen to be in the few-day period of mismatch between these two edits and you have happened to catch it at that point. It's a shame this was noticed in those few days given we've worked hard to prevent this kind of thing for 99% of the timeline book edits, but just know it's about to be fixed.

I think you're reading far too much into a generic comment about timelines being about what happened where when etc.. And in a statement all about trying to sell the book. The reality is that, as it admits there, this is written by MCU "experts", not Marvel Studios themselves. Kevin Feige wasn't channelling his secrets behind the events on-screen into the descriptions in the book, it was just the authors writing the events of the MCU after rewatching (which they mention in the acknowledgements) and Marvel signing off. Any particular phrasings of simple reportage are not meant to be controversial or revelatory.

I said the text isn't meant to reveal anything. It isn't. Nothing they say about the events is meant to be some big revelation because they don't know. They're authors external to Marvel brought in to do this job.

The answers it refers to are about when things happened.

None of the text in the main part of the book is meant to reveal anything. It's purely a description of events by the authors from watching the films/shows back, and Marvel Studios generally ticked it off.