I noticed that all of the pages for members of the Barton family, aside from Edith Barton, list Harold Barton as being their father, father-in-law, or grandfather and that he has been referenced as being deceased. However, Harold Barton hasn't appeared in any piece of MCU media so far and I can find no reference to any mention of him in any MCU property, even Hawkeye or its deleted scenes. Am I missing a mention of him, or should he be removed from the pages of his family for the time being?
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Over the course of my time as a general editor and during my transition to a member of wiki staff, Raff has always been a supportive and helpful voice to turn to. Raff has a pretty long history of making worthwhile contributions to this wiki that have helped improve it for the better, and I, for one, have really appreciated his commitment to this wiki and to helping others like myself hold ourselves to the same standard. While I do agree that our current admins have been doing a wonderful job and thus there’s not a strong need for a third admin, I do think Raff would do a very serviceable job as an admin in terms of continuing to improve this wiki, so I add my support as well.
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That is true. I had admittedly forgotten about that. S.H.I.E.L.D. tech could also be involved in the plot, which would make Carson's potential involvement in the film make even more sense.
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I agree that he could appear again in Armor Wars. That's what I said in some of my messages earlier. My only objection was that I thought Armor Wars would focus more on Stark tech than on Pym tech like Carson has, but the reminder that Sonny Burch is supposed to be in the film does make a potential Mitchell Carson appearance somewhat more likely in that case.
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Carson does refer to all of the buyers, including the one with the Ten Rings neck tattoo, as members of HYDRA, so at least one of them is a member of both organizations. Carson is only ever stated to be HYDRA, but I feel like his potential involvement in Armor Wars would be more based on him having stolen Pym Particles rather than his allegiance to HYDRA.
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I definitely hope that he returns at some point to address one of the few remaining loose ends in the MCU, particularly as he did steal a case of Pym Particles during Ant-Man. The fact that they were originally planning on just showing him getting captured and Scott reclaiming the Pym Particles but decided that it would "be better to leave them out there" implies to me that they were clearly planning on doing something with them at the time, which I hope we can circle around back to soon. Maybe he could be connected to the "hero tech in the wrong hands" plot of Armor Wars, but that's probably focusing more on Stark tech and likely won't include Pym tech. Just a thought.
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Quoted from the top of the List of Deleted Scenes page, which explains the wikia's policy on this issue:
"For a variety of reasons, scenes are deleted from movies and TV series. Whatever that reason, the scene was not good enough to advance from the writers to the actors to the cameras. At many times, these scenes give a more detailed exposition of a plot point, or just add an "Easter egg" to be enjoyed. Since they provide additional plot points or exposition, deleted scenes are considered as valid as the released ones from an in-universe point of view, unless they are contradicted in the published scenes of a movie or episode."
(Edited by Logo8th)
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The 500 Year War is canon, but it is a canon comic, not a canon book like is being discussed in this thread.
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While the main content of the novelizations are non-canon, some of them, such as the Black Panther Junior Novel, do contain additional bonus stories that, as far as I'm aware, don't conflict with the main universe canon, so these additional pieces of content are still considered part of the main universe here.
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I'm not sure of the other questions, but Namor does actually call Namora by name at least once during his speech to all of Talokan declaring war on Wakanda.
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I didn't realize it had been added before the episode came out. I'm not sure where it originally came from then. Even so, there's nothing that has come out to dispute the main timeline's Steve's middle name also being Grant, so I don't think it's out of the question that they share the same middle name until something comes out and says differently.
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Steve's middle name being Grant comes from that being the stated middle name of his variant who became president in an alternate reality briefly visited during the Watcher's battle with Infinity Ultron in What If...?
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I'm just stating this wikia's policy regarding canon. This also only refers to properties that at least have MCU branding, which the novel does have. Also, I don't really understand what the problem of having more MCU content, even if in other universes, is.
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If I recall correctly, it was initially announced by its author and publisher as an MCU tie-in novel, but Marvel later stepped in and clarified it was non-canon to the MCU. Given the existence of the Multiverse, it's considered an alternate universe canon to the MCU on this wikia. Even so, I'm not sure why it was suddenly declared non-canon. Unless the MCU decides to go back and do content on Thanos's backstory, I don't really see why the information the novel provides would contradict anything.
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Some of them, like Fight or Flight or Got to Hand it to Him, might be marked as non-canon due to being promotional comics meant to promote another entity (such as Toys R Us and Dollar Shave Club in the comics I just mentioned). Them's The Brakes is also a promotional comic, but isn't even marked as non-canon, likely due to so little information on it appearing to exist. But Morning Rush doesn't really seem to have anything contradictory to the events of the main timeline in it, so I'm not sure why it's marked as non-canon. Even he promotional comics don't seem too far outside of the realm of possibility to included in the canon as far as I've seen, so I'm not sure why they're marked as separate either.
Also, just as a curiosity question, what evidence is there that School of Shock takes place before Homecoming? Everything I've seen of the comic so far seems like it could fit in after Homecoming. Am I missing something obvious with this?
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There's also an official website for the New Jersey AvengerCon now in conjunction with the Twitter account. https://www.newjerseyavengercon.com/
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I think they meant to ask what inconsistencies Captain America: The First Vengeance has, given Marvelus's comment to which the user was responding.
The "magic coordinator" for Doctor Strange and Avengers: Infinity War, Jay Funk, who choreographed the spell movements utilized by Doctor Strange, confirmed that two of the spells utilized by Doctor Strange in the latter film were the Bolts of Balthakk and the Images of Ikkon, with the later spell also appearing to have been utilized in the final episode of What If...?. This suggests that the Mystical Entities Balthakk and Ikkon, both of which originate from the comics, also exist within the franchise, with Doctor Strange drawing power from them to utilize these spells in a similar manner to the Mystical Entities like the Living Tribunal or Cyttorak empowering the various relics within the Sanctums, all of whom now have pages on this wikia. The only issue with including pages for them on here is that neither name is directly mentioned in the films or series, making it difficult to figure out how to list them in the infoboxes and categories. Considering that it has been stated by crew-members working on the films that these two Mystical Entities do exist within the franchise, should pages still be made for them, or is this not enough of a confirmation of anything other than the spell names?
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Kingo was the one who said Thor followed him around as a kid, but Gilgamesh did say that he knew Odin directly, as he states that he helped him and the Einherjar fight against Laufey and the Frost Giants in the Battle of Tønsberg and that Odin taught him a secret brew recipe. Odin, therefore, also knew about the Eternals and, given Odin's demonstrated knowledge of MCU history, probably also knew about the Celestials as well.