The entire point of the Ship of Theseus debate between the Westview Vision and White Vision is they were discussing what makes Vision, well, Vision. They concluded that “perhaps it is that rot, that is the true ship; the boards touched by Theseus himself.” This means that the memories and experiences of Vision is what makes Vision truly Vision. When White Vision has his memories restored, he quite literally says “I am Vision.” I don’t understand at all why they are listed as separate characters. They are the same being. He was just dissembled and put back together.
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For me it's Moon Knight, yeah, WandaVision did suck at the end but at least the first few episodes were good, Loki was mediocre but silly and enjoyable, but you cannot get rid of a masterpiece like Daredevil, season 1 is a banger. But Moon Knight is just, bleh in my opinion. Don't get me wrong Oscar Isaac is a good actor, but it was just a downright bad show. It's basically Layla (Ugh) saving a literal demigod from Ethan Hawke and an alligator goddess (Gosh, I know Ammit in mythology is supposed to be an alligator, but they made her silly in Moon knight) Plus a bunch of nobodies were shoved in our face and the Scarlet Scarab is a female for... reasons?
Let me know your thoughts.
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Be honest here, when the MCU started all the way back in 2008, it seemed like an unreckonable force, it beat DC in pretty much most box offices (Well that's not really an accomplishment but anyway) and Phase two and three had its downsides, but it gave us truly awesome movies like Captain America: The Winter Soldier in Phase two, and Infinity War in Phase 3, but after Endgame everything seems to be going down instead of up with Marvel.
I know Endgame was pretty much the finale of many years of work, talent, and cinema, but the MCU hasn't really redeemed itself in my eyes, I know hating on FATWS and WandaVision is easy and lazy, but it brings up a point, FATWS and WandaVision should've been great, FATWS centered around two likable characters, Bucky Barnes (Winter Soldier) and Sam Wilson (Falcon) and a seemingly interesting villain, known as John Walker who is the antidote of Steve Rogers, but instead, the show has this act where Black People are always constantly being oppressed, and for some reason a cop failing to recognize Sam Wilson, literally one of the most famous people in the world, and the Karli Morgenthau thing was just stupid for obvious reasons, the show wants to paint her to be sympathetic even though she isn't.
WandaVision has a similar problem, Scarlet Witch, Vision, and Agatha Harkness used to be one of my favorite characters in the comics, but after this show, I'm not sure. The first few episodes were interesting, but after the 4th episode, everything you had predicted for this series was better then what we got, we just have Wanda Maximoff being a sociopath, bad actors and Tommy and Billy Maximoff, and Wanda only freeing someone because she was forced to. Both of these examples are crucial to the possible downfall of the MCU and lazy quality.
Then we got a disappointing array of movies such as DsitMoM, Black Widow and Eternals, before getting Thor: Love and Thunder which is just female Thor with fake muscles taking away Thor's hammer in a story which is definitely not going to adapt to the Mighty Thor storyline, and we got She-Hulk, with Sims 4 CGI, with unfunny jokes, and a tell not show type of setting, people are already mocking these settings, and people will stop watching Marvel, if they keep getting the same thing.
Let me know your thoughts and sorry for making this long.
So I was thinking: What is a cool thing Marvel can do when the new Doctor Strange movie comes out on DVD, Blu-Ray and Digital? And then I thought about the MULTIVERSAL SAGA COLLECTION!
The collection exists out of:
-Doctor Strange (2016)
-WandaVision Season 1 (2021)
-Loki Season 1 (2021)
-Spider-Man: No Way Home (2021)
-Doctor Strange In The Multiverse Of Madness (2022)
I also had an idea for the trailer. Just open the trailer with epic shots from MoM and Wong saying: "You opened a doorway between universes and you don't know who or what will walk throught it" and then use the MoM Second Trailer Music. Maybe put the Peters Pointing in the Midtown lab as a joke inside it. So you'll see shots and quotes from all of the movies included. I already have a entire scenario for it in my head and maybe I'll tell you guys later something about it but for now this is it...
So what do you guys think about a Collection of these movies? Should I also included What If...? Season 1? Should they have to make this for after Loki Season 2, What If...? Season 2 and Ant-Man And The Wasp: Quantummania? Let me know your thoughts here below.
And for the mods especially: Please please please don't delete this post, I really want to share this with you guys. I didn't shared any spoilers about Multiverse Of Madness, right?
So, WandaVision's Darkhold is a way different design than the Agents/Runaways version. Despite this, those involved have said that they believe it to be the same book. I just can't reconcile that in my head. To me, it's clear that the two books cannot be the same object (or rather, a very convoluted explanation would be required for the difference in design if they are the same book). Thus, my view is that there are two Darkholds in the MCU.
WandaVision's Darkhold is the original, much older tome, and may have once filled the empty slot in the Kamar-Taj library.
The Marvel Television Darkhold is a much more recent copy. As it has English on the cover, it can't be older than about 500 years. My headcanon is that some sorcerer used the original Darkhold to create the second Darkhold. This copy is still a very powerful object, and can be used to access all the information contained within the original. My theory is that this second Darkhold acts kind of as a search engine for the knowledge in the original (which is why the pages are blank until someone reads it).
What do you guys think? Anyone got a similar theory? Or a completely different one?
-76158 Spider-Man At The Sanctum Workshop (Spider-Man: No Way Home)
-76108 Sanctum Sanctorum Showdown (Avengers: Infinity War)
-71031 Marvel Studios Series (WandaVision, FATWS, Loki, What If...?)
Let me know what your favorite sets are! If possible, pls post a photo and/or set number, then I know which set you mean!
Do you guys think Ralph Bohner was wasted cause we thought he was quicksilver,and do you think that's why not many people liked the finale?
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I have to give this one to Luke Cage. Both seasons, though especially season 1, were amazing and the music definitely helped drive the story forward. Embracing that kind of Harlem culture and music for both its score and music offerings was incredible for the story and I absolutely loved the diversity and different genres of hip-hop, jazz, blues, rap, and soul that it brought to the table. WandaVision had an amazing soundtrack too and the Jessica Jones spy themes were great as well. The TV shows obviously had better soundtracks as I feel the movies always had bland boringer music that was good only at points, but I did love the use of music in the GOtG film (score not the music that kind of stunk); and more recently the entire soundtrack in both Avengers: Endgame and Spider-Man: Far From Home both of those actually had really great music.
So, on episode 4 of WandaVision, when Jimmy Woo, Monica Rambeau, and two police officers from Eastview are outside of the hex, the Eastview officers say that Westview didn't exist, and it was just an empty land. Skip forward to the second-last or last episode, it shows Wanda driving to Westview, (the town that didn't exist) and the town was populated with a couple of buildings from what we see, even before Wanda formed the hex. And after Wanda disassembled the hex, there was still a city, and no empty land. So why is there a small town where there is supposed to be absolutely nothing?
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Evan Peters character Ralph Bohner has been spotted on the set of Multiverse of Madness; meaning, like many of us thought, he might not be done in the MCU quite yet (and maybe his role in WandaVision was just a little hidden teaser for what’s coming).
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Apparently there’s been a leak (confirmed by multiple sources) which is a of photos which were sent to Hasbro for them to use for their toys; likely in preparation for Multiverse of Madness as many people have reported. Many people are included in this; including Doctor Strange, Wong, America Chavez, Yelena Belova, Hawkeye, Kate Bishop, Scarlet Witch, Ms. Marvel, and a few other new characters I can’t exactly place. This is from Disney, so that might be why we don’t see Spider-Man on here (though I don’t know if that matters much or not), but I believe it is for Multiverse of Madness as it is gearing up to be some sort of a crossover Avengers style event. We know many of these characters might get together in some compasity as last week we know that Ms. Marvel, Hawkeye, and Spider-Man: No Way Home all filmed together at the same location in Atlanta.
The leaked photo (which at this point is pretty legit) can be found below:
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Am I the only one that’s very insanely disappointed in the first two episodes of wandavision? Maybe it’ll get better later in the season but so far it’s terrible in my opinion. You’re telling me that two characters that took on ultron are afraid of a dinner party and a damn tree hitting the window smh. Are they not gonna show how they ended up in the 70’s or any of that?
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Tune in January, 14 at 9am PST/12pm EST
Here's the link to watch the event on YouTube!
WandaVision will end one week before The Falcon and the Winter Soldier begins! Does this mean one piece of marvel every week? I guess we’ll have to wait and see but it’s pretty cool to see a show that seems to be filled to the brim with excitement and craziness have more episodes than we thought!
Potential Spoiler Warning for those who don't want to hear about anything potentially regarding the plot of WandaVision...
Alrighty then.
So the supposed plot leak gives a breakdown of the fundamental structure of WandaVision.
After Endgame, Wanda ends up depressed and lonely, so she ends up making a deal with a woman named Agatha Harkness, who offers to let Wanda live in a idyllic pocket dimension forever with a reincarnation of Vision as well as two children. However, Agatha intends to kill Wanda after the children grow up.
In the real world, Agent Jimmy Woo and his two recruits Darcy Lewis and Monica Rambeau investigate Wanda's disappearance but end up in the pocket dimension too.
The leak also details rumors of Maria Rambeau, Doctor Strange, and most spectacularly Ultron appearing in some capacity.
Additionally, another article writing about this same leak - linked here (https://cosmicbook.news/wandavision-plot-leaks-ultron-spoilers) notes that Chthon and Grim Reaper will be appearing as Agatha's minions to kill Vision.
Anyways, I recognize that We Got This Covered and Cosmic Book News are relatively unreliable sources. Nevertheless, these plot details are still very interesting, as the idea of the pocket dimension is almost confirmed with the concept art we've seen, and the rumors of Agatha Harkness being in the series have been around for a while.
What are your thoughts?
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