If MCU vulture had youth stealing tech like his 90s TAS counterpart, which actor would portray the young vulture?
If MCU vulture had youth stealing tech like his 90s TAS counterpart, which actor would portray the young vulture?
He didn't technically beat falcon in CW but he managed to put him down on top of fighting bucky.
correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't Vulture being bigger make an easier fight for Peter.
he's more heavier so he won't be able to fly as fast as falcon or be as agile as him w the heavy wings
his size makes an easier target for Peter to web up, hell falcon was able to dodge a blast from vision from behind.
falcon's younger so he's much more agile and flexible w the wings.
The report says that Kingpin will be running for mayor of New York City in the first season of Daredevil Born Again. He will use his new power later in Spider-Man 4 to try to make enemies in the public eye out of Spider-Man, Kate Bishop, and Daredevil. A separate report is suggesting that in Spider-Man 4, we could see Peter going up against a version of the Sinister Six. This is the rumored lineup:
Venom
Morbius
Vulture
Kraven
Scorpion
Kingpin
This makes sense because if Kingpin wants to take down all of these heroes, he’s going to need a team of his own. And because this film is likely going to lead into the Avengers films, it’s appropriate to mix the Multiverse element with the street level element. And plus we are getting more teases of the Sinister Six by the year. The mayor plot for Kingpin is also making insiders believe that Kate and Matt will both be in Spider-Man 4
Let me start by saying that I love villains. Whether they are live action or animated, they are always a delight. And MCU villains, by the nature of being based on the comics, bring certain expectations to the audience that other genres may not necessarily have. But I want to talk about how Marvel Studios chooses their villains, because I’m strangely fascinated by it.
Some villains, such as Red Skull, Loki, Mandarin and other archenemies of the Avengers side of the universe, you would've expected to appear sometime in the MCU. And yet, they were mostly dispersed between phases. Loki and Red Skull appeared in Phase One along with the Abomination and Ross, and Phase Two had a version of the Mandarin and Ultron, and Phase Three gave us Zemo, but Phase Four got characters like Taskmaster and Green Goblin, with Phase Five having MODOK, the Hood, Kingpin and several others. So the recognizable villains have either been sparse or have been pushed to the Multiverse Saga.
What makes it more interesting is the kinds of characters they choose instead of having the iconic villains. Take for example, the Iron Man Trilogy, where 1 has Iron Monger (a good starter villain), 2 has Whiplash (a minor antagonist in the comics, but with sprinkles of Crimson Dynamo to add more abilities and story) and 3 got Aldrich Killian (a character who had the shortest lifespan of the three in the comics, but here gets superpowers and leadership of AIM no less). Glad Ant-Man didn’t repeat the formula, since they already had the bald start villain and the henchman in the comics main bad guy.
There’s also the minor villain in the comics turned big bad of a movie or show. Guys like Arthur Harrow, Kaecilius, the aforementioned Aldrich Killian, or even minor antagonists like Sonny Burch. But hey, it could’ve been worse, like Dreykov, an original character that was just a mention in The Avengers, that turned into the big bad of Black Widow.
Sure, some of these end up being composites of other villains, but it doesn’t help when James Gunn makes a character that is indeed recognizable as a silly villain, and turns him into a threatening planet sized enemy and into an interesting father for Peter, or Markus and McFeely turn Zemo from dad’s little cosplayer into the grief stricken destroyer of the Avengers.
What’s funnier to me is Good turned bad characters and vice versa. Here we have Nebula, Alexander Pierce, Talos, Agatha Harkness,Bill Foster, or the entire Black Widow family. I'm not considering Scarlet Witch, because she flip flops a lot in publishing. What makes this such an enigma is that there are several villains in Iron Man, Captain America, Hulk, and others’ Rogues’ Galleries or Friend Groups to have to change them.
One thing I do respect though is the distillation of the villains. Both Black Panther and Spider-Man’s movie villains have this approach. Namor, Killmonger, Vulture and Mysterio’s backstories and looks are changed, but at their core are the same. Namor hates the surface world, Killmonger has vendetta towards the crown for what they did to his family, Vulture is resentful for his business venture failing, and Mysterio is an attention seeking diva.
And despite all of that, I do want to commend the artist and costume designers who created these villains. I love most of them, even if the characters are one note, especially since they bring the imaginative spirit from the comics, such as Kaecilius’ eye shadow or Killmonger’s Vegetta outfit. And some of these characters have been given more time to shine in the comics thanks to the limelight. Malekith and Killmonger being prime examples of this, and of course Loki’s redesign and attitude change can be blamed on his MCU popularity.
Suffice to say, I have a love-hate relationship with these characters. I can only hope Kang and his gang of Multiverse Saga misfits can continue improving the formula, and that we get more people interested in the characters.
I'd love to know what you think about these villains, if you have any thoughts!
So please tell me if there are any holes in it!
As you probably know, Patrick Stewart aka Professor X will appear. My theory is that there is a Peter Parker/Spiderman in the xmen universe, just not very popular or famous due to the fact that mutants are common. However, Charles Xavier, being a powerful telepath, knows about this, and his secret identity, leading him to be pulled into the mcu in NWH. For the same reason that Vulture was sent into Morbius's universe, X was left behind in the MCU. What do you guys think?
I noticed the part where Adrian gets transported to another universe is removed from his page. I wanna know why.
So I was looking through the cast and I saw Anson Mount who played black Bolt in Inhumans. Does this mean that Doctor Strange will also include the Inhumans?
SPOILERS
Also, I just saw Morbius the other day and Vulture is in the post-credit scene coming through the portal after NwH. He meets Morbius and they want to team up. This probably means Vulture will be in MoM. But does it mean Morbius will be too?
(Spoiler warning for “Morbius” so if you have not watched it then don’t click on this post)
Ok so for everyone who watched Morbius you all remember that scene where Vulture appeared in Morbius and Venom’s universe and people were angry because it does not make sense. Well I thought “what if it’s supposed to make sense?” Then I remember dr strange 2 where dr strange is on trial for breaking the multiverse and I thought, “Maybe the scene makes no sense on purpose because something went wrong with the spell and put everyone in different universes and it’s up to dr strange and his friends to fix it”. Also maybe that’s where Ms America comes in as she was someone who got stranded in another universe and dr strange rescues her.
(I know my theory makes little sense but hey that’s what theory’s are for as long as they make a little sense)
Also idk how Vulture’s suit appeared with him but let’s just leave that for later but if you have theories pls feel free to put it in my chat.
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So in the post credit scene of Morbius Vulture gets in the SPUOMC after Doctor Strange's spell at the end of Spider-Man: No Way Home. This is the second installment in the SPUOMC that has connection with the MCU. I think it's great that these SPUOMC tie-ins get mention on the MCU wiki, but doesn't we need a mention of Dr. Michael Morbius on the Vulture page? And doesn't we need a mention of the Vulture thingie on the page of the "Spider-Man Multiversal Crisis"? It's getting consufing in here...
I think that we need a page for this universe since it's tieing in with the MCU over three times! (V:LTBC, NWH and Morbius), but I know and understand that's not going to happen (yet). And do you guys think the MCU and SPUOMC is going to cross-over even more?
I recently re watched Spider-Man Homecoming and I'm a little confused. When Toomes and his gang are cleaning up from the Battle of New York in 2012 it says "8 years later". Am I dumb or would that make Homecoming take place in 2020??
This will probably never happen but I was thinking and I thought it would be really cool to see a fight between Falcon and The Vulture
Out of all the villains or enemies we have seen from trailers like all the sinister 6 who have been revealed who do you believe will be the biggest threat to Tom Holland’s spider-man.
This question excludes Doctor Strange if he were to turn out to be an enemy.
I noticed the different design of Falcon's exo-wings in TFATWS trailer and its increased strength and functionality. Is it possible Tony Stark left Falcon his new suit and took some tech and pointers from vulture's suit ?
If i recall correctly he helped spidey when people was suspicious about his identity
Any thoughts??
U know what let’s turn this post into a discussion about our thoughts and theories about spiderman 3
Continuing the "Scene Discussion" is the moment where Adrian Toomes denies knowing of Spider-Man's identity to Mac Gargan, who is seeking revenge on him.
Let's discuss! How do you feel about this? Do you think Gargan will go after Peter after the events of Far From Home? Do you hope to see the Sinister Six form in Spider-Man 3 to try and kill Peter?
Leave your thoughts on this down below, and make sure to leave any suggestions of scenes that you would like to discuss in future posts.
I wanted to share this idea I had a few months ago with you guys. See, a phrase I often hear about Batman is that each of his villains are an aspect of the hero. I wanted to see if that can also be true about the MCU villains and its protagonist. I'm only focusing on the main villains and trilogies (upcoming or finished).
Spider-Man
Vulture - Michael Keaton's Vulture is a dark reflection of Peter in how he sees himself as a champion of the lower classes, despite the fact that he is living in pretty good conditions, just as Peter's gotten fairly privileged in this series of films. He's Peter after the tragedy of Uncle Ben, but having learned nothing.
Mysterio - Jake Gyllenhaal's Mysterio is great power personified, sans the responsibility part. He's Peter's intellect, charisma and good looks, and aspirations.
Captain America
Red Skull - Whereas Captain America represents patriotism and fighting for the good of the people, Weaving's interpretation of the Red Skull's the complete opposite. While Steve might be fairly humble, Schmidt has ego for days. He has no care for the good of his nation, is fairly self-centered, and he's just in it for amassing more power.
Winter Soldier - The personification of Steve's guilt and desire to go back, who has come to haunt him. He's also the ideal weapon, not thinking, only follows orders, and isn't affected by the things he does.
Helmut Zemo - the embodiment of blame, Brühl's Zemo makes every Avenger responsible for the death of his family, even though casualties are bound to happen, as Steve says in the movie. He's Steve before the events of Winter Soldier.
Thor
Loki- Loki in the first movie is a lesson in humility for Thor. The more humble Thor becomes, the more ego Loki gains. He's a teenager rebelling, whereas Thor is a teenage coming to adulthood
Malekith- A mirror of what Loki could've become, as it's really Loki's movie. He's not caring for his people, uses armies to attack cities, and seeks weapons capable of destroying the world.
Hela - She is both Thor and Loki's worst aspects combined. Arrogant, wishing to destroy rather than build, manipulating others into doing her bidding, all of which are buried in the past. Therefore it's somewhat ironic how she's both the goddess of death and responsible for the conquest of the Nine Realms
Iron Man
Iron Monger - Stane is the same person Stark was before his experience in the cave, probably without the same level of intelligence. He's a buisnessman only interested in selling his product, without caring for the uses given.
Whiplash - Ivan Vanko is the continuation of the rivalry of his and Tony's parents. They are both skilled geniuses, but the difference lies in the motives. Vanko is doing it as revenge for his father's death, while Tony wants to be a different man to his father, keeping only the good lessons.
Aldrich Killian - Like Vanko, Killian is Tony's past back to bite him, though instead, it's Tony's fauly this time. Just like Tony in the flashback, Killian is manipulative, making the whole world believe he's someone he isn't. And just like Tony's PTSD in the movie, Killian can't let the past stop harming him.
Doctor Strange
Kaecilius - Kaecilius is the rogue version of Doctor Strange. He's lost himself after tragedy. He was a prodigy, but just like Strange, believes only he has the truth.
Dormammu - Dormammu is played by the same actor as Doctor Strange, so you know they must have a parallel. Dormmammu is Strange's ego, and controlling nature in a cosmic entity.
Karl Mordo - While not yet a villain, Mordo is the ideological opposite of Strange. He's aggressive, follows orders, and isn't creative.
Ant-Man
Darren Cross - Darren reflects more Hank Pym than Scott Lang. He's Hank's worst aspects passed onto his mentee. Add to that the feelings of neglect that are also shared with Hope, and you have a villain made by this family
Ghost - Ghost is the vulnerability of Hope Van Dyne. She lost her family, was used for evil purposes. Unlike Hope, she's unable to use her powers properly, and has a father figure who clearly shows affection and care for her.
Daredevil
Kingpin - D'Onofrio's Kingpin is the opposite of Murdock in many ways. For starters, Fisk had a core family, while Murdock only had his father. Murdock knew love, while Fisk knew anger. Murdock has friends, and FIsk has associates. FIsk is what happens when a person is incapable of growing up.
Bullseye - Pointdexter is the skill of Daredevil, but also the anger inside of him. Pointdexter is Murdock constantly brought down that he ends up breaking.
Jessica Jones
Purple Man - Quite simply, Kilgrave is the memory of abuse, along with the trauma events like these entail. Both Jessica and Purple Man want control back (Jessica of her life, and Kilgrave of her), but neither able to.
Foolkiller - Foolkiller represents the fall of the prodigal child, just like Trish' s eventual downfall. So full of potential initially, he fell into a more tragic path, and so did Hellcat.
Agents of SHIELD
John Garrett - Another dead man walking, John Garrett is when agents are left behind. Instead of having friends like Nick Fury, Maria Hill and Melinda May, Garrett was (for all intents and purposes) alone, which meant he was a prime candidate of HYDRA recruitment.
Mister Hyde - Calvin just wants to be the dad that Daisy never had. Compared to Coulson's colder approach to parenthood, he's more open about his emotions and excited. However, he's also very much controlled by his emotions, prone to violent outbursts and moments of madness. This shows the two extremes of parenting.
Guardians of the Galaxy
Ronan - Just as Quill is still living in the past, Ronan's almost religious devotion to the traditions of the Kree Empire push him. He's also like Drax and Rocket by how angry he is toward changes toward the status quo.
Ego - Kurt Russell's Ego shows the dangers of expectations put on to people, rather that be Peter's expectations towards Gamora, everyone's expectations towards baby Groot, and of course Ego's expectations towards the creatures of the universe. His disappointment is precisely what led Ego into wanting to destroy the universe as we know it.
Avengers
Loki - Loki in the Avengers reflects the belief that Fury and the Avengers are the only ones worthy of protecting the Earth, in the same way he believes to be the only one fit to rule. He pretends to be benevolent, like Cap, he has the ego of Stark, the agility of Widow and Hawkeye, the magical artifact of Thor ,and the emotional maturity ot the Hulk.
Ultron - Like Loki, he continues the theme of control. In this sense, he believes himself as the only way to protect humanity, from itself. He's a threat created by the protectors, the one they couldn't control. He flips the roles, and is now making them play his game. He mostly takes from his father, Stark, but also is like Hawkeye by having a child, Vision, recruiting people to his cause like Cap, and making catastrophes on cities, like the Hulk.
Thanos - Thanos is taking several of the aspects previously stated in several of the previous characters, though he also brings new things to the table. Like Tony, he believes to a worthy mentor, burdened by knowledge. Like Cap, he's a leader and tactician. Like Thor, he's a warrior, believing himself worthy of wielding the stones.
Think of any other ways the villains reflect the heroes?
Or any other villains I might have overlooked?
I'd like to see your thoughts in the comments below.
Name: Adrian Toomes
Alias: Vulture
Status: Alive
First Appearance: Spider-Man: Homecoming
Latest Appearance: Spider-Man: Homecoming
Portrayed By: Michael Keaton
"Those people up there, the rich and the powerful, they do whatever they want. Guys like us, like you and me, they don't care about us. We build their roads, and we fight all their wars, and everything, but they don't care about us. We have to pick up after them. We have to eat their table scraps. That's how it is."
How do you feel about him, do you like him, what about the actor, favourite moment with him etc. Make sure to comment below any characters you want to discuss in depth next time.
What's your opinions on this character?
The post credits scene in spider-man homecoming is clearly hinting at the sinister six, and now that far from home is out I figured I’d talk about it
Coming up with the team itself is hard just from homecoming we already got vulture, shocker, tinkerer, prowler, scorpion and darter, and in far from home we got mysterio, chameleon, what appears to be kraven and the manFredi mob that could introduce silvermane, Peter also has a teacher named mrs. Waren, in the comics he has a teacher named miles waren,
These movie also appear to be setting up green goblin who would obviously be the leader
So let’s talk about introducing the thunderbolts to the mcu, here are some characters I want to see on the team,
Red hulk
Abomination
Ghost
Winter soldier
Klaw
Vulture
Zemo
Elektra
Ghost rider
Justin hammer as Detroit steel
And the leader as the villain
Please share your thoughts in the reply’s and what characters you would like to see on a thunderbolts team