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Some scenes look like they were taken from a horror movie, but it also looks like The Boys trailer.
https://x.com/MCU_Direct/status/1898086879683092550
If stark sold avengers tower in 2016 and thunderbolts takes place a year after brave new world where this film took place in 2027 does this mean Valentina owned it for 12 years? @IronWidowMaikuB wow
Notably Valentina appears jn black widow then her next film appearance was in Wakanda forever so that oddly comes full circle in terms of film, so this will make @IronWidowMaikuB happy lol
Let's look at the plot points that we know about:
-The main characters are sent on mission individually as a set up to get rid of them
-They team up and decide to run
-They're being helped by a Congressman/ex assassin
-They encounter a "Superman"
-They fight against normal soldiers
-Most of them met each other in the past
-All of them were introduced in the past
-They're not being freed from prison or injected with bombs.
It's nothing like Suicide Squad.
Do you guys think Valentina Allegra de Fontaine might’ve bought Avengers Tower? If not, who do you think did, or who would you've liked to see buy it?
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The Marvel Comics' version of Task Force X, with a long line of numerous members. Tho for MCU, we appear to be getting a group almost entirely comprised of super soldiers (Bucky, Yelena, Red Guardian, Walker, and Taskmaster). So not a very diverse team (with the exception of Ghost). Sometimes, you gotta spice it up. What Marvel character would you like to see join this antiheroic gang?
My top picks are:
• Mac Gargan/Scorpion: I demand justice for this classic Spidey villain! And what better way to start than getting him out of prison and suited up? His connections to weapon sellers like Toomes can be useful knowledge for his team while also using it for his benefit to plot vengeance on the wall crawler (and possibly transition him into next Spider-Man movie).
• Ghost Rider: Not too particular on the incarnation so long as it's the same flaming skull. I get supernatural be clashing with the superhuman dynamic of the super soldiers, but their team is in desperate need of some variety in the power department. The Spirit of Vengeance has been an anti-hero but also on the side of neutral, tho he's trouble for anyone in his path. To see him back on the screen in a blazing glory would be awesome!
• Ragnarok: The robotic clone of Thor would make a great addition and secret weapon for the Thunderbolts. Given that Tony made Hulkbuster prior to Age of Ultron, it's possible he could've made a robot Thor in secret and it was discovered by someone else who put the cyber clone on the team.
• Wade Wilson/Deadpool: For real? Cuz why not?
• Frank Castle/Punisher: The one-man army who walks between the morally grey lines of good and bad is more than perfect for this squad. And with confirmation that Jon Bernthalis returning to the role in the new Daredevil series, this is a great opportunity to get him established in this Cinematic Universe.
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What if Hydra is making another comeback this time from within the U.N. and U.S. government. Think about it. The rhetoric we’ve been hearing from people like Val, Thaddeus, and many other leaders have been similar talking points of Hydra. Global instability, attacking key Avengers allies, not listening to reason from professionals about how to handle Wakanda. This is literally out of the Hydra playbook. Operate in the shadows until you get an opening. What do you think about this theory?
So at this point it is still a rumor and no comment from Marvel Studios, but a high power villain is being looked at for the Thunderbolts film. The rumor is Sentry (The Void) as being the villain for the team to face. Also actors Ryan Gosling and Alexander Skarsgard also might be cast for the role. They could also be cast as the film for the film, even if it is not Sentry.
I don’t see how this announced Thunderbolts team could survive Sentry, based on what we seen of him in the comics. It seems like a very “suicide squad” like mission. These guys would not stand a chance. Sentry always been a conflicted being, so maybe that will give them the upper hand.
If this were to happen, what’s your thoughts? Would you be more excited for this film?
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It early discuss about Agatha House of Harkness? Spinoff of WandaVision features Agatha Harkness as center focusing character. Don’t know series either be a prequel or continued after WandaVision. But want ask questions that is going be appeared in Agatha: House of Harkness? My guest is De Fontaine. MCU is exploring supernatural recently with Doctor Strange and WandaVision, so how Valentina Allegra de Fontaine appeared in House of Harkness?
Similar to she did reached out U.S. Agent and Yelena Belova asked for there services and potential offering them joined ThunderBolts. So how De Fontaine will track down Agatha and discussed how her ability that could be usefully and offered her to join her in little team she putting together maybe ThunderBolts. But hey ThunderBolts already have there own version of Captain American and Black Widow why there own version of Scarlet Witch or ThunderBolts equivalent to Enchantress from Suicide Squad. Either way if Marvel Studios announced Thunderbolts movie could like Agatha be on the team.
(NOTE:THIS IS JUST A THEORY, IS NOT CONFIRMED)
Think about it, first she manipulates John Walker to become U.S Agent in “Falcon and the Winter Soldier”, then she made believe Yelena Belova that Hawkeye killed Natasha Romanoff in “Black Widow”.
Now, she might take advantage of Peter’s framing as an opportunity to “recruit” him.
Imagine…
Val shows up at the police station where Peter is been interrogated.She tells Pete that she believes him, but the people outside won’t, unless he takes the first step. Val tells Peter that she has the sources for him to clean his name. At first, Peter’s not sure about the idea, so he tells Val that he’ll think about it. In that case, Val leaves Peter her number to call her when he made his choice.
At the end of the movie, when Spider-Man and Doctor Strange had fixed reality, everything goes to normal. Peter decides to call Valentina and meets her in a place at Long Island. Peter accepts her deal, with the condition that she provides security for those close to him.
But, at a post-credits scene, Peter goes home to tell his Aunt May about the deal he made, only to find Bucky Barnes/Winter Soldier in the apartment. He warns Peter about Valentina’s true intentions.
(NOTE:THIS IS JUST A THEORY, IS NOT CONFIRMED)
Valentina’s employer is actually Thunderbolt Ross and/or Norman Osborn and that he’s recruiting the Masters Of Evil to make sure the Avengers are not re-assembled again.
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I originally didn't know who she was, so I searched her up and discovered that she was Madame Hydra in the comics.
Admittedly, I was a bit saddened because I'm a huge fan of Agents of SHIELD and I loved AIDA/Ophelia's version of Madame Hydra. However, this did take place in the Framework, so it's possible that Madame Hydra could reappear in the MCU in a different form.
Thoughts?