She-Hulk: Attorney at Law

I know I need to watch Daredevil and I've already watched Echo and She-Hulk but do I need to watch another show like The Punisher or Defenders or smth ?

Are we going to get season 2 to Hawkeye, Moon Knight, Ms. Marvel or She-Hulk: Attorney At Law?

Do you consider:

• Captain America: Civil War as Iron Man 4

• Spider-Man: Homecoming as Iron Man 5

• Thor: Ragnarok as Hulk 1.5 (If hulk appears in She-Hulk: Attorney at Law) or 2

• She-Hulk: Attorney at Law as Hulk 2 or 3?

Honestly I think She-Hulk doesn’t deserve the hate but at the same time I felt like they should’ve done something with her show. In my opinion, the show wasn’t that bad as what the internet thought it was.

But do you think Marvel should find a way to redeem She-Hulk herself in future MCU projects?

Just finished watching she hulk since i couldn’t bring myself to do it when it came out, utterly ridiculous, any thoughts?

this thread is to speculate which current shows would get a second season.

obviously the following::

• I am Groot

• Loki

• What If

possibly some chance for the following::

• Hawkeye

• Moon Knight

• She-Hulk

though those first two seem fine as they are.

I have doubts for the following::

• WandaVision

• Falcon & Winter Soldier

• Ms Marvel

• Secret Invasion

Wanda kind of featured in 2nd Doctor Strange; and her Scarlet Witch identity being at least an antagonist in that movie.

the other 3 shows; each main character to appear in some upcoming movie.

edit:: Secret Invasion also because the Skrulls no longer seeming secret.

Was daredevil unironically good still despite being in she hulk, and no im only talking about his characterization in she hulk and nowhere else.

Well daredevil made it out okay reception wise and is it true that Wolverine was referenced if this the first one in the Mcu then that’s a cool callback to Wolverine debuting in a hulk comic.

Also not using ai to make it feels better then secret invasion

Sorry I failed being positive there now @Superbattleshipyamato

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Just a bit confused as to if the Defenders saga is a part of the MCU as I already know that Daredevil/Matt Murdock is in the MCU and was wondering if it meant the same for the rest of the saga e.g. Jessica Jones, Iron fist, luke cage, punisher and the defenders show. My guess is that it is as I am currently watching Daredevil and have heard/seen multiple refrences to the Avengers and that Daredevil has appeared in Spider-man NWH and in She-Hulk.

One day I had quite a lot of fan theories and speculation on my mind regarding things one might consider plot holes or just unanswered questions. So I decided to write them down and since I don't really have anywhere else to put them, I decided why not just have them put to the test and give to other MCU fans to see what they thought about them.

If you have any other headcanons I'd love to hear them. Now on to the speculation.

• SWORD is secretive because of the Skrulls

In Agents of Shield Season 5, we get a joke nodding to SWORD, though Coulson states he isn't familiar with the organization.

At that time, it was because the rights were tied with the X-Men, and therefore the organization was with Fox. In Phase 4 not only do we learn that that SWORD was formed years ago, after the events of Captain Marvel, but by Monica's mom.

This begs the question, why wouldn't Coulson know? especially after becoming director of SHIELD. I believe that it's because SWORD's existence is not known to the public, because it was meant to avoid infiltration.

Consider this, they are both in the space travel and weapons business, and as such, would be in the interest of groups like either HYDRA or Kree.

With that in mind, Maria would've asked Skrulls for techniques on discovering infiltrators, so that the organization couldn't be brought down from the inside.

Still that doesn't mean the organization couldn't be run by incompetent people (see Wandavision) but they at least weren't seemingly affected by the Hydra Uprising.

• The Hand inspired the Foot in the MCU

If you don't remember, Ms. Marvel had a nod towards the Ninja Turtles. This is kinda weird considering how Frank Miller's run on Daredevil was a major reason for the TMNT's creation, and in universe, Daredevil has existed only recently, ie. the 2010s.

One possibility is that in the MCU, the creators simply made the turtles had no influence from Miller or maybe they read an equivalent character.

But consider this, the Hand, the organization that inspired the Foot in the TMNT comics, is considerably older, and as such, could have been an urban legend or conspiracy theory like the Illuminati (the legend not the comics group). So, what if...the duo that created the Turtles took inspiration from the real life group of villains?

• The Comics on She-Hulk (Earth-199999)

Remember that rack of comics on GLK&H? If we go by original comics' logic, the reason why they're there is because they are used as anecdotal evidence of events.

If that is also the case in the MCU, then does that mean that the events of these comics happened in the MCU as well? Because the covers showcase the return of Baron Strucker as an LMD (which, we've seen LMDs and Strucker before), and more interestingly Count Nefaria (whose daughter Madame Masque appeared on Agent Carter). And if we were to read the inside of the comics, there are Avengers that have yet to debut on the silver screen. Plus there's the whole question as to whether or not they were published in their original time of publication. Either that, or the comics industry really improved their drawing and writing skills exponentially.

Also worth noting that by having Agent Carter one shot for the SHIELD 50th Anniversary, which was a part of other one-shots, like those for Mockingbird and Quake, they are acknowledging the Agents of SHIELD and Marvel TV side, since, without Agent Carter, that one-shot wouldn't have happened.

• The Comics of She-Hulk (on Kevin's Office and the writers' room)

It's interesting to see several comic covers and pages during the She-Hulk 4th Wall scene in the finale, especially because it has nothing to do with her ending. Still, a few couple issues are worth noting.

On the She-Hulk side, we see some from the Byrne run and some from the newest one. But one that was notable is one where she fought the Leader. Now granted it was part of a deleted plot, but who says that line from Kevin wouldn't indicate her return on Cap 4?

Additionally, we see Mark Waid's run on Daredevil represented on some columns, but one notable one is an early issue where Matt's identity goes public. Maybe an indicator of how Kingpin will ruin his life?

One final comic worth noting is the Korvac saga being there, as rumors suggested a while ago that Korvac would be featured in a future movie (The Marvels), but those have since died down. So it is curious why it is still there. Perhaps we'll see something akin to the events of the Lego Marvel 2 game where Korvac is an enforcer for Kang?

• Werewolf by Night has been saving Man-Thing since 2014 or before

So, before his proper debut, Man-Thing was mentioned in Agents of SHIELD and referenced in Thor: Ragnarök. We know he's survived to this point, so the question is how is he returning. Well, we know that Jack has at least found him before once, but what if Man-Thing escaped because of Jack the last two times?

Jack could've used the chaos of the Hydra uprising to find and help save Ted from imprisonment, maybe even opening doors for other prisoners and causing a riot. And once Man-Thing found himself on Sakaar, Werewolf traveled there and fought the Grandmaster's forces to liberate Ted. Hopefully not alone, because that wouldn't be the safest.

• Stark Industries owns Marvel Comics/Entertainment in the MCU

This is the most fan theoryiest of the bunch, and it has to do with something simple.

We know that good ol' Howard did try and make movies, ironically adapting western comic books, made by Timely Comics. So, it wouldn't be a stretch to think that rather than buy the licensing rights to just Kid Colt, he bought the whole of Timely Comics, and after that, its chronology stayed the same, except for maybe the whole superhero comic boom.

We know that there were also Patsy Walker comics, so maybe the industry stayed in the romance dramas for a while, and although DC did create Superman and Batman, Marvel did not. That is until Iron Man and all the new era of superheroes.

Additionally, stuff like Runaways show items based on Spider-Man, so it would seem someone has the rights to Spider-Man's likeness. The same thing can be said about the toys. We see Avengers toys on Season 1 of Agents of Shield, but it is until Ms. Marvel that we see other superheroes besides the core 6 Avengers are sold, with the Marvel logo. And since Pym Tech is no more, someone must be creating those products.

I just watched the final episode of She-Hulk, and after accepting the whole major fourth-wall break, I tried to think about the new rewritten plot.

I don't like how the Wiki keeps the information for the She-Hulk's fourth wall breaks. I think they should not be considered in any character biography section, as they are not canon. I think that they should be in a separate section.

The pages for all the people who would've had what they did slightly rewritten should only mention what happens in the rewritten plot in the biography section.

What had originally happened and any fourth-wall breaks should be in their own section.

Example: On his character biography page, Josh Millers's taking of Jen's blood could be added in a section called "Original Plot" but be left out in the main section of his character biography.

Example 2: Todd Phelp's transformation into the Hulk could be left out and put into a separate section, similarly.

And there should be NO mention of any fourth wall breaking AT ALL in the main biography sections, but it can be mentioned in the Original Plot section.

(Also, I'm only saying this for character pages, not the plot of episodes, as there is no way to ignore anything that happened in an episode's plot section, fourth wall break or not.)

I feel like Marvel could've avoided any confusion by just replaying the scene from the point where Nikki and Augustus arrive at the Intelligencia meeting but with the new, revised, plot.

Spoilers obviously.

So I just finished the show. And I have a question. Are there two universes where the people watch Marvel as entertainment, this one and the one with K.E.V.I.N? Or is that supposed to be our universe? I know it's all for comedy, but I just want this cleared up. How does it fit with the multiverse?

On another note, I was active here a while ago, under the acount EliasTheNerd

I believe that there is a window between our world and K.E.V.I.N's. Pizza Poppa was the first to realise this and then She-Hulk. K.E.V.I.N was fine with Jennifer because it was a good plot point in the show. However, he was not happy with her smashing the window because she was breaking and entering into his universe. So he reinforced the glass on the window so that you can still talk through it but not break it. This is how Rocket breaks the fourth wall in the Holiday Special. This is just a theory not fact. Also the whole glass bit is a metaphor.

I haven’t watch everything yet so I’m not gonna put input in. But I’m curious about the rest of you alls thoughts