Runaways (TV series)

Personally I though she was a great adaptation. Her costume was ripped straight out of the comics and avoided the classic MCU problem of too many lines and textures, and Elizabeth Hurley really sold her physicality and scheming, sly personality.

I would not mind seeing her reappear elsewhere in the MCU.

I wonder if this is a temporary decision, it would be too sad if it were final. Is there hope?

One day I had quite a lot of fan theories and speculation on my mind regarding things one might consider plot holes or just unanswered questions. So I decided to write them down and since I don't really have anywhere else to put them, I decided why not just have them put to the test and give to other MCU fans to see what they thought about them.

If you have any other headcanons I'd love to hear them. Now on to the speculation.

• SWORD is secretive because of the Skrulls

In Agents of Shield Season 5, we get a joke nodding to SWORD, though Coulson states he isn't familiar with the organization.

At that time, it was because the rights were tied with the X-Men, and therefore the organization was with Fox. In Phase 4 not only do we learn that that SWORD was formed years ago, after the events of Captain Marvel, but by Monica's mom.

This begs the question, why wouldn't Coulson know? especially after becoming director of SHIELD. I believe that it's because SWORD's existence is not known to the public, because it was meant to avoid infiltration.

Consider this, they are both in the space travel and weapons business, and as such, would be in the interest of groups like either HYDRA or Kree.

With that in mind, Maria would've asked Skrulls for techniques on discovering infiltrators, so that the organization couldn't be brought down from the inside.

Still that doesn't mean the organization couldn't be run by incompetent people (see Wandavision) but they at least weren't seemingly affected by the Hydra Uprising.

• The Hand inspired the Foot in the MCU

If you don't remember, Ms. Marvel had a nod towards the Ninja Turtles. This is kinda weird considering how Frank Miller's run on Daredevil was a major reason for the TMNT's creation, and in universe, Daredevil has existed only recently, ie. the 2010s.

One possibility is that in the MCU, the creators simply made the turtles had no influence from Miller or maybe they read an equivalent character.

But consider this, the Hand, the organization that inspired the Foot in the TMNT comics, is considerably older, and as such, could have been an urban legend or conspiracy theory like the Illuminati (the legend not the comics group). So, what if...the duo that created the Turtles took inspiration from the real life group of villains?

• The Comics on She-Hulk (Earth-199999)

Remember that rack of comics on GLK&H? If we go by original comics' logic, the reason why they're there is because they are used as anecdotal evidence of events.

If that is also the case in the MCU, then does that mean that the events of these comics happened in the MCU as well? Because the covers showcase the return of Baron Strucker as an LMD (which, we've seen LMDs and Strucker before), and more interestingly Count Nefaria (whose daughter Madame Masque appeared on Agent Carter). And if we were to read the inside of the comics, there are Avengers that have yet to debut on the silver screen. Plus there's the whole question as to whether or not they were published in their original time of publication. Either that, or the comics industry really improved their drawing and writing skills exponentially.

Also worth noting that by having Agent Carter one shot for the SHIELD 50th Anniversary, which was a part of other one-shots, like those for Mockingbird and Quake, they are acknowledging the Agents of SHIELD and Marvel TV side, since, without Agent Carter, that one-shot wouldn't have happened.

• The Comics of She-Hulk (on Kevin's Office and the writers' room)

It's interesting to see several comic covers and pages during the She-Hulk 4th Wall scene in the finale, especially because it has nothing to do with her ending. Still, a few couple issues are worth noting.

On the She-Hulk side, we see some from the Byrne run and some from the newest one. But one that was notable is one where she fought the Leader. Now granted it was part of a deleted plot, but who says that line from Kevin wouldn't indicate her return on Cap 4?

Additionally, we see Mark Waid's run on Daredevil represented on some columns, but one notable one is an early issue where Matt's identity goes public. Maybe an indicator of how Kingpin will ruin his life?

One final comic worth noting is the Korvac saga being there, as rumors suggested a while ago that Korvac would be featured in a future movie (The Marvels), but those have since died down. So it is curious why it is still there. Perhaps we'll see something akin to the events of the Lego Marvel 2 game where Korvac is an enforcer for Kang?

• Werewolf by Night has been saving Man-Thing since 2014 or before

So, before his proper debut, Man-Thing was mentioned in Agents of SHIELD and referenced in Thor: Ragnarök. We know he's survived to this point, so the question is how is he returning. Well, we know that Jack has at least found him before once, but what if Man-Thing escaped because of Jack the last two times?

Jack could've used the chaos of the Hydra uprising to find and help save Ted from imprisonment, maybe even opening doors for other prisoners and causing a riot. And once Man-Thing found himself on Sakaar, Werewolf traveled there and fought the Grandmaster's forces to liberate Ted. Hopefully not alone, because that wouldn't be the safest.

• Stark Industries owns Marvel Comics/Entertainment in the MCU

This is the most fan theoryiest of the bunch, and it has to do with something simple.

We know that good ol' Howard did try and make movies, ironically adapting western comic books, made by Timely Comics. So, it wouldn't be a stretch to think that rather than buy the licensing rights to just Kid Colt, he bought the whole of Timely Comics, and after that, its chronology stayed the same, except for maybe the whole superhero comic boom.

We know that there were also Patsy Walker comics, so maybe the industry stayed in the romance dramas for a while, and although DC did create Superman and Batman, Marvel did not. That is until Iron Man and all the new era of superheroes.

Additionally, stuff like Runaways show items based on Spider-Man, so it would seem someone has the rights to Spider-Man's likeness. The same thing can be said about the toys. We see Avengers toys on Season 1 of Agents of Shield, but it is until Ms. Marvel that we see other superheroes besides the core 6 Avengers are sold, with the Marvel logo. And since Pym Tech is no more, someone must be creating those products.

Between Runaways and Cloak & Dagger, which should I watch first.

At the end of Runaways, we see the group prevent a future where Gert dies, so their future selves get erased along with their timeline (like Back To The Future). But as established in Endgame, shouldn't that future have remained as an alternate timeline? Does Chase's quantum gravity time travel work differently to quantum realm time travel or something? I know the real reason is that they hadn't properly established the time travel rules yet, but obviously I'd rather have a proper in-universe explanation

In Doctor Strange, the Dark Dimension looks like a dark void full of little planetoids, somewhat matching the description of it on Agent Carter. But then in Runaways and Agents Of SHIELD, it's shown to have actual Earth-like landscapes.

So I found another plot hole involving Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D, except this time it also involves Runaways.

So the first appearance of the Darkhold in the MCU was in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Season 4. One thing that was learned about the Darkhold is that the pages are seen differently by each person. To anyone reading the book, it shows the answer to what they wish for, but anyone who isn't reading the book sees it as blank. By this logic, any digital recordings of the book would also appear blank.

Here comes the plot hole.

In Season 3 of Runaways, Robert Minoru finds Morgan le Fay's copy of the Darkhold and reads it. Knowing that Morgan will kill him, he uses his WizGlass to record the book.

Given that the contents of the book are only seen by the reader, his WizGlass should have just seen blank pages. So why is it that his glasses could record the book's contents but other recordings saw blank pages?

With D23 fast approching what shows would you like to be revealed? I would love to see an A.K.A. Jessica Jones sequel as well as a Runaways sequel

I know this is probably an unorthodox choice but I have been binging Runaways on Disney+ and I have officially got a new most hated villain in the MCU. Kilgrave is despicable and he deserves everything that happens to him in Jessica Jones season 1 but if I might say screw Leslie Dean.

She is an opportunistic villain who directly organizes the PRIDE as a cult that murdered 15 children, framed their own children for the death of the latest sacrifice to Jonah, she caused the deaths of both Molly's bio-parents who were also members of PRIDE until they discovered that their plan was going to destroy the world and brainwashed her own husband out of PRIDE because she didn't think he had the stomach to do what she did while she had an affair with Jonah even if it purely Jonah needing an heir and nothing romantic she clearly was romantically attracted to him.

Karolina's entire life was devoted to the church that her mother ran and she has to now tackle the fact that her religion, something that clearly brings her comfort was created in the name of all this. Other members of PRIDE, mainly Alex and Nico's fathers and especially Gert and Molly's parents feel genuine compassion for their children and remorse for what they do even if they don't know how to get out of PRIDE but Leslie doesn't seem to care about Karolina at all

This space-time organization is supposed to protect the sacred timeline and I will give some examples that required their intervention and did absolutely nothing.

1.Chase Stein travels back in time to save Gert Yorkes when she is due to die in the main timeline, not to mention that the other Runaways also traveled back including the evil Alex Wilder.

2. The Agents of Shield changed the future of the Earth, when it was supposed to be destroyed in the main timeline in 2018 but if it is destroyed that year the events of Infinity War would not happen, so forget it.

3.The Chronicoms that altered an alternate timeline in the past to eliminate Shield.

4.The Avengers who traveled back in time to get the Infinity Stones.

Ah but a person on his way to work gets distracted by something and that shouldn't have happened, boom! They prune it right away.

What do you think ever became of them after the series was cancelled? Do any of you think they got to forge lives of their own, continue to protect Los Angeles as heroes, or anything like that, or something else? I think it was such a great show, and it really makes me wonder what they started doing from there. Do any of you think it's at all possible that some, if not all, of them were victims of the Snap and were restored during the Blip? It may not have been recorded in any of their articles here, but given the state that the program ended in, the possibilities are potentially endless. And I gotta say: they're among my favorite Marvel teams, alongside the Avengers, the Fantastic Four, and the X-Men.

What do you guys think were going to be the Next plotlines for Agent Carter, the Netflix shows, Runaways, Cloak & Dagger, Inhumans and Helstrom before they got cancelled?

I watched alredy all MARVEL netflex and disney+ series, but didn't watch the other shows... Should I watch them?

So we know people are talking about the Defenders and possibly Agents of SHIELD returning to the MCU, but how come we don't see them talk about Cloak and Dagger or the Runaways?

Can someone explain to me how this is possible? As far as I remember, they didn't explain it on the show.

By the way, the advertising poster that appears in some episode of the second season of Runaways about Roxxon is connected with the end of the first season of Cloak and Dagger?