Odin

(I am new to this wiki so I don't know if this topic has been discussed before, if so I apologise) Odin changed Loki's appearance from a frost giant to a man. We know this was through the Odinforce, so how did the Odinforce spell work in TVA, where no spell, not even the infinity stones, worked, and Loki's appearance did not change back to that of a frost giant? I'm really curious about this

After being acknowledged to exist in "Loki," how would you have Balder appear and explain his absence?

Since Odin was on Earth in 2015 and Ultron nuked the Earth, Wouldn't that mean he died and therefore Hela is released and is all alone in that universe?

What was that one scene in Thor: The Dark World where Odin explains the origins of the aether (or was it the Dark Elves?) to Thor and Jane?

Id watch the movie for myself but I cant get my firestick to work still.

Did Odin say something like:

“Some believe, before the universe there was nothing. There was darkness.”

Or was that just in the trailer?

This has been bugging me.

It depends if Odin treasure contains facts about the Celestials. Same thing for the the Ancient One with her books.

I would love to see an Eternals Disney Plus Series. It would great to see other exploits of the Eternals throughout the 7000 years. It would be a fun way to see more of the history of the MCU.

Possible characters they could meet along the way:

Xu Wenwu

A Black Panther

A Black Knight

Young Odin

Thanos

The Ancient One

Or any other ancient heroes or villains

We do know Salma Hayek (Ajak) has signed on for multiple projects

I personally think that they are gonna imitate the recent Thor retcon by making Frigga the first Phoenix host who was freed from it when Thor was a baby in Thor love and Thunder , Loki or GoTG vol 3

Your thoughts??

Here's my reasons for why I think Surtur is not dead:

Reason 1 (might not make that much since): Surtur says he can not die until he carries out Ragnarok. Now the goal of Ragnarok is to destroy Asgard. From what Odin tells us Ragnarok is the people and there were no remaining people on Asgard (besides Hela). If this is true overall then Surtur can't die yet.

Reason 2: Surtur was merged with the Eternal Flame which means he can't die (this already proves my point). We know that individuals resurrected by the flame can still be killed again (in the case of Fenris and the Berserkers) but its merged with him which means that his immortal. We know Surtur is merged with the flame so he is basically stuck in his bigger more powerful state. This could mean trouble.

Reason 3: He swatted the Hulk like a fly, killed Hela, and survived an encounter with Odin as hinted by Thor, what more can I say.

So this is a theory which has been gaining some traction in the fandom since the deleted scenes from Thor: Ragnarok which shows Loki and Thor finding Odin in an ally and he warns of Hela's coming, before she arrives he has Thor kneel and in a way that seems to be ritualistic anoints him as the new king of Asgard. This has led some to believe Thor was supposed to gain the Odinforce in the film.

Others believe Thor did inherit the Odinforce which explains his ability to use lightning without Mjølnir. However I doubt Thor does and this is why. While we never get to see Odin truly display the full might of his power many of his past actions prove how powerful he is. He was able to keep Hela sealed away as long as he was alive, was able to steal the Eternal Flame from Surtur and wound him while Hela even while in Asgard barley made him flinch. He was shown to depower Thor and cast spells such as the worthiness enchantment as well as break Loki's spell to regain his memories. Now Odin did tell Thor he was stronger then him (Odin) which some interpret as Odin meaning Thor is stronger than Odin cause Thor now has his fathers power plus his own. But we have to remember two things. Odin himself said Mjølnir only channeled Thor's power, Thor just needed to learn to use it naturally. Second if Thor did have the Odinforce I think he would have done a better job fighting Thanos, even without Stormbreaker Thor should have easily laid into Thanos.

Now, this doesn't mean that Thor still couldn't have or inherit the Odinforce later on. In the comics Thor did gain the Odinforce, which was later called the Thorforce. I would like to see this happen as it would be a great power up for him and be a great way to show what Odin was capable of when he was in his prime.

With the announcement of Love and Thunder and the return of Jane and her becoming Thor after taking Mjølnir which somehow gets repaired. Now despite some people criticizing the Mighty Thor series it wasn't just about Jane. It was also about Thor trying to become worthy again and going through his own journey of finding out what that means. With Thor suffering PTSD because of his recent losses and defeats I think it would be cool seeing his journey in the MCU mirroring the comics and ending with him reclaiming his sense of worth and overcoming some of his inner demons and earning the power of the Odinforce which maybe he uses to fix Mjølnir and gives to Jane. Or maybe he discovers he did inherit the power and has to go through some kind of trial to fully use it, something like this occurred in the comics when he had to go through some tests to gain the Odinforce and master the runes.

What do you guys think, will we ever see Thor use the Odinforce?

Name: Odin Borson

Alias: The Allfather

Status: Deceased

First Appearance: Thor

Latest Appearance: Thor: Ragnarok

Portrayed By: Anthony Hopkins

"I have sacrificed much to achieve peace. So, too, must a new generation sacrifice to maintain that peace. Responsibility, duty, honor. These are not merely virtues to which we must aspire. They are essential to every soldier and to every king.

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