Or did they add her after they changed the entire script after Chadwick Boseman death since Marvel Studio didn't want to recast the T'Challa Character and made Shuri the main character?
My top 3 favorites
🥇): Green Goblin (No Way Home)
🥈): Wen Wu (Shang Chi)
🥉): Namor (Black Panther 2)
The Wall Street Journal recently reported that as soon as Thursday that in exchange for Disney’s current stake of Hulu, Comcast and Universal will return the rights of Hulk and Namor. Previous reports suggested that Disney was looking to sell it’s stake of Hulu if the price was profitable to offset losses. Now it’s seems like that could finally happen as soon as Thursday with the rights of Namor and Hulk returned in exchange. This might explain why that several trades are claiming that a World War Hulk film could be happening not too far down the road from now. Just one quick detail, Marvel and Disney do not discuss this stuff until they lock in the deal. How hyped are you for this to hopefully finally happen?
Yelena Belova
Captain Marvel
Shang Chi
Namor
Black Panther (Shuri)
Spider-Man
Captain America (Sam Wilson)
The confirmation comes from the writer of the film
Now before y'all hope to the commets, I'm not trying to bash MCU Namor like I usually do. This is something different I hope can actually start a good conversation.
As a comic book fan, the MCU Namor was almost unrecognizable to me for several reasons which has brought me to my pov of him being someone different all together like the creators pulled him out of thin air. When I thought about it more, I was actually thinking that they could have done something better. They made up Hope Van Dyne so why couldn't they do it again? So then then that got me thinking, for the better, about how they could have keep the Mayan aspect of the movie without having it replace Atlantis & Imperious Rex.
So in the comics, earth has many many gods & they're separated by pathenons. When I say they cover dang near everyone, I mean it. In the comics, they have the Tēteoh which are the gods of Aztec mythology. From here, they could have made a technomagical civilization where the inhabitance lived with their king being the avatar of the Serpent God & obivously not named Namor or being nothing like him. From there, this could not only build off of MCU's differen't magic, but also the different species & gods of earth which ultimately lead to great world building.
I feel this would have been the best choice because a lot less people would have been made over this & they probably would have gave a thumbs without having people compare him to the original Imperious Rex.
Thoughts?
Soooo.....I just saw on this wiki that he Who Remains, Kang, still is Nathaniel Richards like in the comics.......so does that mean they're gonna make Mr. Fantastic black?
Just a questions, not trying to start a fight!
Also, why is Man Thing listed as human? He clearly isn't plus even if he use to be, that no longer fits him. He's a monster, that's like his whole thing.
Now I want to start by saying two things: I’m Mexican and I’m not a sociologist or anything of that matter. Therefore I’m not academically qualified, but I do have enough of a cultural background to at least share my opinion. In this (hopefully short) essay, I’d like to discuss how Phase Four in particular modified characters so that they’d be of a different cultural background or change how their cultural background affects their story. The characters in question are the Eternals, America Chavez, Moon Knight and Namor.
I want to start with what I think is the best of them all, and that is Namor. Not just because I’ve been a fan of his for a while, but because he’s the best example of changing a character but not losing the identity. Because in all essence, his character hasn't changed. He is still the underwater king, he has chicken sized wings on his ankles, resents the surface world, and wants to attack it whenever he wants. What this version does add is some cultural significance to his plight, and a real feeling of resentment that many indigenous and Mexican people still have to this day towards the Spanish. His skin color and cultural change isn’t just theming, but it makes it richer.
Speaking of Latin American heroes, we have Moon Knight. What I like about him is surprisingly the opposite of Namor. While Namor showcases his culture, Marc/Steven are not. They don’t speak Spanish, or do anything stereotypically Latin American. That is until we learn the source of Marc’s condition, and that is without a doubt something any Latin American child has been threatened with or felt in their lifetime. And with Marc also being an US American, the distance shown between him and his father is also very reflective of how migrant children lose the family connection Latinos have in their home country. As for the Jewish part, I’m not touching that, but I’d love to know the thoughts of the people within that community down below.
Next up, America Chavez. Here’s what’s funny about Xochitl Gomez’s performance. Other than when she speaks in Spanish,and the Day of the Dead skull on her jacket, there is nothing uniquely Mexican in her performance. However, Doctor Strange 2 isn’t her movie, so I get why she didn’t get her time to shine, but I hope in future installments, she will. These thought also apply to Gael Garcia Bernal’s Werewolf by Night, because there really was no need in making him Mexican, but it was cool to see it.
And now we go to the difficult stuff, and that’s Salma Hayek as Ajak. Here’s the deal, I get the idea that Chloe Zhao wanted a multicultural group of “Gods”, and I think that is a great idea (just ask Neil Gaiman) , but it is kind of uncomfortable calling it proper representation. Because 1) she’s the sacrificial lamb of the story and 2) other than being the stereotypical single mother of many and the accent , what other traits does she have that are linked to the color of her skin? And that’s without even addressing the inaction in Tenochtitlan. Not to compare with the comics, but at least there the Eternals were enhanced humans, so the representation could be a bit more valid, but well, that isn’t the case here.
While I do have some thoughts on Shang-Chi’s and Ms. Marvel’s changes, I’d rather know what you guys think of those changes and if you guys liked them or not and why. Anyways, thanks for reading this, and hope you have a great day!
Let me start by saying that I love villains. Whether they are live action or animated, they are always a delight. And MCU villains, by the nature of being based on the comics, bring certain expectations to the audience that other genres may not necessarily have. But I want to talk about how Marvel Studios chooses their villains, because I’m strangely fascinated by it.
Some villains, such as Red Skull, Loki, Mandarin and other archenemies of the Avengers side of the universe, you would've expected to appear sometime in the MCU. And yet, they were mostly dispersed between phases. Loki and Red Skull appeared in Phase One along with the Abomination and Ross, and Phase Two had a version of the Mandarin and Ultron, and Phase Three gave us Zemo, but Phase Four got characters like Taskmaster and Green Goblin, with Phase Five having MODOK, the Hood, Kingpin and several others. So the recognizable villains have either been sparse or have been pushed to the Multiverse Saga.
What makes it more interesting is the kinds of characters they choose instead of having the iconic villains. Take for example, the Iron Man Trilogy, where 1 has Iron Monger (a good starter villain), 2 has Whiplash (a minor antagonist in the comics, but with sprinkles of Crimson Dynamo to add more abilities and story) and 3 got Aldrich Killian (a character who had the shortest lifespan of the three in the comics, but here gets superpowers and leadership of AIM no less). Glad Ant-Man didn’t repeat the formula, since they already had the bald start villain and the henchman in the comics main bad guy.
There’s also the minor villain in the comics turned big bad of a movie or show. Guys like Arthur Harrow, Kaecilius, the aforementioned Aldrich Killian, or even minor antagonists like Sonny Burch. But hey, it could’ve been worse, like Dreykov, an original character that was just a mention in The Avengers, that turned into the big bad of Black Widow.
Sure, some of these end up being composites of other villains, but it doesn’t help when James Gunn makes a character that is indeed recognizable as a silly villain, and turns him into a threatening planet sized enemy and into an interesting father for Peter, or Markus and McFeely turn Zemo from dad’s little cosplayer into the grief stricken destroyer of the Avengers.
What’s funnier to me is Good turned bad characters and vice versa. Here we have Nebula, Alexander Pierce, Talos, Agatha Harkness,Bill Foster, or the entire Black Widow family. I'm not considering Scarlet Witch, because she flip flops a lot in publishing. What makes this such an enigma is that there are several villains in Iron Man, Captain America, Hulk, and others’ Rogues’ Galleries or Friend Groups to have to change them.
One thing I do respect though is the distillation of the villains. Both Black Panther and Spider-Man’s movie villains have this approach. Namor, Killmonger, Vulture and Mysterio’s backstories and looks are changed, but at their core are the same. Namor hates the surface world, Killmonger has vendetta towards the crown for what they did to his family, Vulture is resentful for his business venture failing, and Mysterio is an attention seeking diva.
And despite all of that, I do want to commend the artist and costume designers who created these villains. I love most of them, even if the characters are one note, especially since they bring the imaginative spirit from the comics, such as Kaecilius’ eye shadow or Killmonger’s Vegetta outfit. And some of these characters have been given more time to shine in the comics thanks to the limelight. Malekith and Killmonger being prime examples of this, and of course Loki’s redesign and attitude change can be blamed on his MCU popularity.
Suffice to say, I have a love-hate relationship with these characters. I can only hope Kang and his gang of Multiverse Saga misfits can continue improving the formula, and that we get more people interested in the characters.
I'd love to know what you think about these villains, if you have any thoughts!
Only the most broken people can be great leaders.
How old is Namora, Namor’s Cousin and Attuma?
Why don’t Namor called Namora by name but instead Little Girl?
Is Namora either Namor’s paternal cousin or maternal one?
I have always been wondering about more information about these three characters and their dynamics towards one another.
Note
This is just a fan cast, nothing real
Directed by: Ryan Coogler
Screenplay by: Ryan Coogler Joe Robert Cole
Story by: Ryan Coogler
Based on: Marvel Comics
Produced by: Kevin Feige Nate More
Starring:
Tenoch Huerta: Namor, The King of Talokan, an ancient civilization of underwater dwelling people, who refer to him as the feathered serpent god K’uk’ulkan.
Mabel Cadena: Namora, a Talokanil warrior Namor’s cousin
Alex Livinalli: Attuma, a Talokanil warrior and Namor’s advisor
Markin López: Arath, a rogue Talokanil who wants to take the throne for himself and wage war with the surface world.
Antonio Tun Xool: Vyrra, a Talokanil scientist who is working for Arath in his plan to destroy the surface world.
María Mercedes Coroy: Queen Mother Fen, Namor’s mother
Harrison Ford: President Thaddeus "Thunderbolt” Ross, the President of the United States of America.
Benedict Cumberbatch: Doctor Stephen Strange: A neurosurgeon who became a Master of the Mystic Arts following a career-ending car accident. (Post-Credits scene)
Cinematography by: Autumn Durald Arkapaw
Edited by: Michael P. Shawver Kelley Dixon Jennifer Lame
Music by: Ludwig Göransson
Production company: Marvel Studios
Distributed by: Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures
Universal still owns solo film rights to Namor.
https://www.thewrap.com/wakanda-forever-namor-spinoff-movie-marvel-rights/
I bet they’re going to fix doctor doom by having one here better than the other two. Probably as female version.
One thing that's been bugging me for some time now is the definition of magic. By definition of this verse, magic is the "practice of harnessing various forms of energy". Would that just make it ergokinesis then? & wouldn't that just make it super science?
When looking at it from a scientific definition of energy, the answer would be absolutely. Let me explain, so the scientific definition of energy is "quantitative property that must be transferred to an object in order to perform work on the object". In simple terms, energy is the fuel for everything to happen in the universe. Matter changes form because of energy too. & energy comes in all kinds of forms such as heat, light, electricity, radiation, elastic, etc. There's gravity energy. Long story short, science ultimately is the study of changes in energy, its effects on the environment, etc. This would even take into account exotic forms of energy such as cosmic and psychic energy as well which would just mean that's another field of science (study).
So would that just mean that magic is just science?