Magic

I was wondering, could Agatha's Powers and Abilities list on her article page be edited to include life-force absorption? While the CGI mostly focuses on her absorbing other witches' powers when they blast her, it is common knowledge that she takes not only their magic, but also their life force, as they are left as withered corpses after she has finished her absorption; While she does boldly claim to take power from the "undeserving", her main M.O. is siphoning off the life force of other witches. Just feel like it could be a worthy power to include on her profile.

We finally got confirmation in a teaser for AGATHA ALL ALONG that the show takes place Three years after the events of WandaVision! That would mean it takes place in fall of 2026 as WandaVision was in fall 2023 right after endgame. And we also know now that after the events of Multiverse of Madness, the spell that the Scarlet Witch put Agatha under became distorted, which is why she’s a detective instead the the sitcom nosy neighbor persona Agnes. That took place in fall of 2024. That would mean she’s been under the spell for another two years. But do we think this is taking place before SECRET INVASION or in between that and THE MARVELS? What do you all think?

In the comics Dr strange, while pulling shit out his ass on the regular, also has a core arsenal of spells fans can recall and recognise. You know the crimson bands, flames of the faltine, Shield of the seraphim etc. A lot have their own lore like the crimson bands coming from the god of destruction cyttorak, the faltine being the race of hellish warlords Dormammu is a part of etc and invoking the vishanti in a lot of his spells, gives them character.

But a lot of mcu Strange's spells seem one and done apart from the boring orange sparkles which are overused.

Okay so I’m an insomniac and I’ve been up all night thinking about Mutants in the MCU and I’ve been thinking about these theories. Let me know what you guys think, do you think these theories make sense or is my brain just malfunctioning from sleep deprivation?

So for my first theory, I think I know how mutants could be existing in the MCU and I think I’ve thought of a scenario that’ll introduce more Mutants. Now I think that the government or SHIELD will find out about the existence of mutants when superhumans, or enhanced individuals, start popping up in random locations. Some of those individuals have gained abilities after being involved in freak accidents or stressful events but none of them have been exposed to anything that has been known to create superhumans but after examining a lot of these enhanced individuals, SHIELD scientists discovered a genetic anomaly in all of those individuals, a gene. They started calling it an X-Gene and it’s actually been previously discovered years ago in many people’s DNA but nobody in the molecular biology field was able to figure out the purpose of this gene and they didn’t think anything of it as 40-60% of predicted genes have unknown functions anyway. They would later discover that this gene is usually dormant in the people that carry it until a certain event occurred such as puberty, stressful, or traumatic events. It could also be triggered by increased exposure to solar or cosmic energy or radiation. They also theorized that it could also be triggered certain exotic substances or substances that causes the body stress and causes the body to mutate in certain ways (let’s say a human being carrying this gene ingests a mutagenic substance like a heart-shaped herb, they might develop their own unique superhuman traits as their X-Gene would be activated as the herb forces the body to mutate). They also discover that this mutant sub-species has been around for a while but the population was very low in earlier years and there was a very small few and an even smaller few with an activated X-Gene, but after recent events in the 21st century involving the emergence of superheroes, causing many people to experience traumatic events and since there’s been a noticeably higher exposure to solar and cosmic radiations, this caused a significant increase in the mutant population.

As for my scenario, you don’t have to take this part seriously. I don’t think it’s the best idea but I thought of this idea involving the plot of Spider-Man 4. So I had this idea where Peter gets into college and goes to Empire State University and there he meets a girl named Francine Frye (I haven’t thought about whether she’d be just a friend or love interest). She majored in Electrical Engineering and he majored in Biophysics. One day, Peter battles a villain and Francine is at her internship at an electrical power plant, which is where Spider-Man and the villain end up at. During the fight, Peter notices that Francine and her boss are there and tries to get them to safety while fighting the villain. He manages to get her boss to safety and almost gets Francine to safety but when Peter tries to evade the villain, the villain crashes into the electrical grid Francine and her boss were working on, causing an arc flash electrocuting both Peter and Francine. Peter is able to get back up just fine but Francine gets knocked out and Peter rushes her to a hospital. Francine would later wake up with electrokinetic abilities becoming Electro. I didn’t think about whether she would be a full-on villain but I do think she would cause conflict and get captured at the end. At the end of the movie (in the post-credits scene) Peter would visit her in her prison cell and then finds that SHIELD has come to transfer her. Either Nick Fury or Maria Hill would explain to him what is going on and explain to him the recent emergence of mutants and how they believe Francine is one of them and that they wanted to study her in exchange for a lighter sentence and rehabilitation. Again not my best idea (probably one of the worst you’ve ever read lol) but if you’re wondering where I got the idea of Electro being a mutant, I’ve always had the idea of Electro (Max Dillon) being a mutant in the comics who’s X-Gene activated after his freak accident and he was just never recognized as a mutant. I thought since it’s unknown whether or not Max would return or they would introduce another Max Dillon in the MCU, I thought that theory could be cool for the MCU’s version of Marvel’s female Electro, Francine Frye. Again, don’t take this part seriously, if you think it’s terrible, I don’t mind lol. It’s just a small idea I had in my head and I’m sure there are much better ideas.

So I’ve been thinking about this theory ever since WandaVision and I’ve always wondered if Wanda and Pietro might still be mutants. My reasoning for believing this is the fact that in Age of Ultron, Wanda and Pietro gained their powers from the Mind Stone. Wanda and Pietro were among many volunteers in their town to allow HYDRA to experiment on them with an Infinity Stone and Wanda and Pietro were the only ones to survive the experiments. My theory is that they were able to survive because, unlike the other volunteers who were regular humans, they were both latent mutants (or at least Pietro was) and exposure to the Mind Stone caused their X-Genes to activate, surviving the experimentation. I think that the the Mind Stone definitely activated Pietro’s X-Gene and activated his mutant ability of super speed, but I think for Wanda, her X-Gene was already activated and it activated when her parents got killed and her and Pietro got stuck under the rubble with the Stark bomb. In WandaVision, this situation was shown and it was confirmed by Agatha that Wanda always had magic and she casted a probability hex to stop the bomb from exploding. Now we know that Wanda always had magic her whole life but I think it goes even deeper than that, I think her natural aptitude for magic was her mutant ability. I believe that pre-experimentation, she possessed the ability to use magic without any training. Like her ability would’ve manifested as probability manipulation that would’ve caused unlikely, but not impossible, things to happen and that would’ve been before she discovered her potential as a sorceress and I believe that when she discovers magic, she would be able to master the Mystic Arts with little to no difficulty and would’ve been able to cast complex spells with no need for incantations just like she can now because of her natural aptitude for Magic, just like in the comics (before Marvel retconned her being a mutant 😒). Her power and skill would’ve rivaled the sorcerer supreme and she would’ve been considered one of the most gifted sorcerers/sorceresses. However after exposure to the Mind Stone, her mutant ability was enhanced and her potential increased exponentially to the point where she could draw upon even more energy and she could pull from any source and any dimension and could call upon any form of magic she wanted, even the mythical Chaos Magic, through nothing but sheer will and her power would’ve exceeded that of any sorcerer/sorceress.

Anyways, those are my theories! Feel free to tell me what you think and if you think these are terrible ideas, just remember that they’re just ideas and are not to be taken seriously lol. Also sorry for the long post.

We know that Agamotto was the first sorcerer supreme of earth and discovered how to channel extradimensional energies to fuel programming like formulas (spells) that can bend and slightly alter the physical laws of the universe.

We also know that the Eternals helped develop human society and that Sersi was the inspiration for the Greek Sorceress Circe.

I don’t think this is a coincidence, maybe Agamotto was taught by Sersi to tap into the Energies of the Universe to create certain effects. but Agamotto went a bit farther then just channeling the mundane energies of his own universe and began channeling cosmic energy from other dimensional bodies of existence with completely different physical laws to enhance this new technique he learned, combined with certain formulas he fabricated (the first spells) to create the mystic arts.

What do you think of this theory?

One thing that's been bugging me for some time now is the definition of magic. By definition of this verse, magic is the "practice of harnessing various forms of energy". Would that just make it ergokinesis then? & wouldn't that just make it super science?

When looking at it from a scientific definition of energy, the answer would be absolutely. Let me explain, so the scientific definition of energy is "quantitative property that must be transferred to an object in order to perform work on the object". In simple terms, energy is the fuel for everything to happen in the universe. Matter changes form because of energy too. & energy comes in all kinds of forms such as heat, light, electricity, radiation, elastic, etc. There's gravity energy. Long story short, science ultimately is the study of changes in energy, its effects on the environment, etc. This would even take into account exotic forms of energy such as cosmic and psychic energy as well which would just mean that's another field of science (study).

So would that just mean that magic is just science?

If Jericho Drumm where to ever enter into the MCU, how would he be introduced, what would us powers be, & who would play him?

Here’s my take:

I feel his name used should be Brother Voodoo instead of Doctor Voodoo because I feel cooperate fans & the general public would call him a rip off no matter what. Also, it feels more black to call him that if you get what I’m saying?

Introduced-

He needs his own miniseries to give him the respect he deserves & to explain Voodoo better because he just doesn’t use magic like Dr. Strange. It employs Loas & I believe some African spirits like Shango.

Powers-

Voodoo is already introduced via Cloak & Dagger, all we need is for it to be used for powers & explaining it’s roots in African culture. Even if the don’t go that far with it, they must keep it separate from MCU Magic because they aren’t the same. So at the least, have him calling upon the powers of different Loas & African deities. These must not be memes the Panther Goddess wasn’t so keep the goofiness with Thor. He must be as powerful, if not more powerful than, Dr. Strange. This is just to do him justice to him because Brother Voodoo in the comics can’t warp reality or anything & exact powers from the comics don’t make him OP in the MCU cuz Wanda is op in the MCU.

Casted As-

A must with him is that he needs to dark skinned cuz Fox & the MCU have done sorry in that department (Subspot looking like Rico Suave, Storm looking like Zendaya, etc.). With that said here are my ideas:

Hakeem Kae-Kazim

Lance Riddick

Jimmy Jean-Louis

Mustafa Shakir

Why do we still categorize The Scarlet Witch’s telekinetic powers as Psionics when, other than her using telepathy, her using telekinesis is her using magic? Agatha uses telekinesis and mental manipulation and that’s considered magic. Episode 8 of WandaVision established that her powers, outside of telepathy, are magic based, shown by Agatha’s runes. Shouldn’t all of her powers, outside of telepathy, be recategorized as magic?

We know Ned is gifted towards sorccery . And characters do remember spider-man and the events of no way home. So Ned might remember him being Spider-Man's guy in chair and remember Doctor Strange.

He might go to Sanctum Sanctorum to learn Magic from the sorcerors, where a spell goes wrong and turns into Hobgoblin.

Give me your thoughts on this theory.

Everyone online has been talking about this and I want to hear what you guys think of it. Do you think that at the end of Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of madness, that Wanda will do the reversal of what happened in the house of M comics, and instead of a erasing, she will bring mutants into the MCU. I personally love this theory, but how do you think it will go down? Do you think it already happened and that mutants have been in the MCU since the very beginning or is she gonna use a spell or make the X gene tamper all over the earth! LMK!

Also, I heard this other theory that Wanda’s mind is connected to that Wanda we see in the second trailer for MOM. That because Wanda created Billy and Tommy, and heard their voices in the post-credit scene, that they already existed in that universe and that was how she was able to create them. Let me know about that too!

I'm not sure if Ned is property of Sony or Disney, but if Spider-Man is going to get it's own show, why Ned would not?

SPOILERS FOR SPIDER-MAN: NO WAY HOME

I want to see him rediscovering his magic, he freaking opened a portal without any kind of training, i need to see that again!!!

Here’s my version of The One Below All if they add him to the MCU

Instead of Gamma Radiation (which is a dumb concept TBH) he is associated with Chaos Magic.

He is the architect of Wanda Maximoff’s corruption as in the shadows, he is in a way "the author of all her pain” as he used her trauma and loss on her parents, her brother Pietro, her husband Vision’s deaths, and her need to find her children in order to corrupt her into making the Scarlet Witch free The One Below All so he can destroy the cycle of death and rebirth in the multiverse as her Chaos Magic is the only thing capable to destroy the multiverse and the cycle of death and rebirth.

He is based on the supervillain of the same name while his design is based on The Scarlet King from the SCP Foundation Mythos, Invictus from Final Space and Zombros Engar’s God of Terror form.

There is a part of me that thinks that chaos magic is just the Dormant Magical Abilities such as Basic-Magical Energy Manipulation (Possibly Quantum Energies from Other Universes with Different Physics) and Probability Manipulation that’s been augmented by the Vast Cosmic Energies of the Mind Stone, and eventually became so powerful that her emotional breakdown in Westveiw led to the creation of Chaos Magic. Although I do have another theory.

I honestly don’t wanna believe it, but I do have a hypothesis in the back of my head about where chaos magic actually could come from in the MCU. I heard that they were going to put Shuma-Goarth in Doctor Strange 2 (I only know about the character from what I’ve read on Fandom and YouTube, I was introduced to him when I watched clips of Marvel vs Capcom 3 on YouTube.) My theory is with Shuma-Goarth being an abominable higher-dimensional entity, he most likely has access to channeling the Vast Cosmic Energies of the Multiverse (probably powerful enough to create Entire Universes Via big bang)! They could end up doing another retcon and making Shuma-Goarth The true source of chaos magic instead of the infinity stones!

I honestly prefer the Infinity Stone Augmented Probability Manipulation as the source of Chaos Magic, But then again marvel studios has done more disappointing things such as making the eternals (which I also read partially on fandom about) ancient aliens instead of genetically modified humans, But they manage to redeem themselves by making them Cosmic Synthozoids and establishing some connection to the Titans In the MCU! So we’ll see what happens. But what do you think about this?

Rewatching Doctor Strange right now and I really wish they bring back Jonathan Pangborn. Sure he's an original character created for the movie but I just feel like they could do alot with him. Is it just me or does anyone else have these thoughts 👀?

First, this is just Theory and don't angry if you disagree.

Second, well let see your Theory too.

1. WandaVision is a totally set for Phase 4, (confirmed).

2. There Will be an Mutant first appearance in Falcon and The Winter Soldier.

3. Black Widow is in Phase 3 (Confirmed), and take place after Civil War (Confirmed).

4. Loki Will introduced Mephisto and another hell/satan being in MCU (also Blackheart son of Mephisto).

5. Big bad Villain from Earth (Avengers level threath) is Druig from Eternals.

6. Big bad Villain for street level hero is Kingpin.

7. Big bad Villain for Cosmic and Magic level threath is Mephisto.

8. There is no Galactus in Phase 4.

9. If Spiderman still on Disney and Marvel Studios, i think there Will be more Spidey film after Spiderman No Way Home, first is Spiderman Ecounter with Deadpool and Deadpool will be a Spiderman Father Figure, and Second is for Spiderman College time and the friendship with Iceman and Pyro.

10. Punisher will have an important role for Phase 4.

11. Defenders Will have a film, directed by Matt Reeves/Zack Snyder.

12. Daredevil on Spiderman: No Way Home.

13. Ms.Marvel will introduced Inhuman Family, in greater MCU.

14. Moonknight and Hawkeye will introduced Count Dracula, another bridge for Blade.

15. Blade is R Rated movie.

16. Thor: Love and Thunder will introduced another space threath beside Gorr The Godbutcher (in my opinion, it Will be some Galactus Easter Egg).

17. Shang Chi is takeplace in the five years gap after Infinity War and Endgame.

18. Mandarin will be another simpathetic villain.

19. Iron Fist on Shang Chi and The Legends of The Ten Rings.

20. Jessica Jones and Luke Cage on She Hulk.

21. Punisher on Armor war and Moonknight (for Moonknight, i think Punisher Will show up on flashback scene, because Moonknight is an army like Punisher too).

22. Agents Of SHIELD Canon with WandaVision and Upcoming Secret Invasion Series.

23. Big Hero 6 will another young Hero after Spiderman, Cloak and Dagger, also Runaways.

24. Tadashi on Big Hero 6, is a friends of Tony Stark on Japan.

25. Fantastic Four will be Canon with She Hulk and Ironheart.

26. Deviant will attack Earth.

27. Black Knight from Eternals will join MI13 and Excalibur.

28. Captain Britain will introduced more on Phase 4, and let's hope that Henry Cavill will take that role.

29. Do you have another Theory??

Okay...this power is called "Magic" but is said by definition is:

"the practice of harnessing various forms of energy to manipulate one or more aspects of the infinite realities that are present within the Multiverse."

........That's Omni-Energy Manipulation...like Vulcan.

*sigh* I'm sick go magic not having 1 definition because by meaning that means Vulcan is a mutant mage.

The Infinity Stones would increase his powers 100 times! He basically become the most powerful sorcerer in the Universe.

Me 1)characters: Mystique, The Maker , Wolverine,Nightcrawler, Dazzler , Cyclops-Jean Grey/Madelyn Pryor , Kaine Parker/Ben Reilly , Mayday/Benjy/Annie and Teresa Parker , Legion,Polaris , Moondragon , Sera Odinsdottir , Nova , White wolf (Hunter) , Reed Richards children and Sentry

2) Stories: The origin stories of these characters , , House of M , Secret Invasion , Young avengers: The children’s crusade , Civil War 2 , King in black , Carnage events (absolute , maximum and minimum) , continuations for existing projects -some of them in some sort of multiversal crossovers): Daredevil (2003) , the Netflix shows and Fantastic 4 (2005/7) ,Captain America Returning the stones and living in the past