I know I need to watch Daredevil and I've already watched Echo and She-Hulk but do I need to watch another show like The Punisher or Defenders or smth ?
I know I need to watch Daredevil and I've already watched Echo and She-Hulk but do I need to watch another show like The Punisher or Defenders or smth ?
Just a bit confused as to if the Defenders saga is a part of the MCU as I already know that Daredevil/Matt Murdock is in the MCU and was wondering if it meant the same for the rest of the saga e.g. Jessica Jones, Iron fist, luke cage, punisher and the defenders show. My guess is that it is as I am currently watching Daredevil and have heard/seen multiple refrences to the Avengers and that Daredevil has appeared in Spider-man NWH and in She-Hulk.
In memory of the Kung Fu master Bruce Lee/
李振藩/李小龍 先生 49years ago our great martial artist and philosopher pass away.
(I wrote it yesterday30hours ago, sorry I didn't finish it at that time, so I missed his date...)
My English is not good, hope you never mind. If you watched the Defenders Saga then it will help you understand my ideas. There are some different sentences in the article, which should have been in italics Because I wrote this in my notes, after I copying them to here I can't restore them as they original are...
Phase 5
Shang-Chi 2 (Fists of Iron) subtitles
MCU time set in 2026
1. Xu ShangChi/徐尚氣&Xu XiaLing/徐夏玲 team up with Daniel Rand & Colleen Wing. They met because Danny found that the Hand and the Ten Rings had long-term cooperation in history. When Danny wiped out the rest of the Hand in Asia, He eventually traced them to Macao, and this time he still called the aggressive Colleen to assist him. Xia Ling come back to Golden daggers Club, run her businesses. ShangChi studied Mystic arts for months in the Hong Kong Sanctum, when he received his sister's call for help, he immediately open a portal...(10+2rings haha)
Imagine ShangChi shot the Rings hitting the glowing fist/Katana full of Chi, I guess the Rings will bounce off and Danny's Fist may ache faintly. If Finn Jones's Chinese level has improved, they may not have to fight.
( Here is another idea: Since Shang-Chi is often in Los Angeles, it will be cool to teamwork with the Runaways and Helstrom family to solve some supernatural problems. If MARVEL wants them back as a cameo. Of course, their better places to go are the Young Avengers and the Midnight sons.)
2. Ta Lo & K'un-Lun fall into crisis again. Suddenly, the mark of Shou-Lao on his chest starts glow and heat(of course, Wing's crane tattoo can't feel the sign), the dragon's face appeared in his mind and warn him of danger to the "disappeared" city K'un-Lun.
It's not 清明节/QingMing festival yet, so the portal in the bamboo forest is not open. But the Great Protector also can connect with ShangChi. (YingLi said:"尚氣,别怕,你有神龙之心。"Danny said:"me too! his heart was damn hot." )
Danny took out his phone and showed the satellite 3D image outside K'un-Lun gate in the himalayas, He asked Xu to take him there. When the four of them reached the gate on the mountain, Danny and Colleen don't know how to use their Chi to open the portal of Kun Lun. Danny hit the ground and the air in front of the door with his Iron Fists
Colleen even inserted the hers white light sword into the ground, ShangChi tried his magic, but it didn't work. Nothing changed except for the broken rock, they can't unlock this mysterious passageway, so they need find a way get into to Ta Lo... ShangChi contacted the Sorcerer Supreme Wong for help(Wong can't help Rand), They finally opened the entrance in advance.
They found that these two places once belonged to the same world, and still connected. In the ancient lost pocket dimension behind the earth. This world is inhabited by magical creatures. Some creatures do not belong to the earth. They come from distant outer planets, called the Makluan who created the Ten Rings. They came back to complete the unfinished aggression,take what belongs to them and something else does not. Because they are aliens, they drove spaceships through the wormhole to the hidden dimension of the earth. About 5000 years ago, ancient Chinese people discovered those gateways to another world. They chose to move there in order to avoid war and slavery, also find new fertile land for a better life. Those magical portals open every year on a fixed day or every other10 years / 15 years open for one month. They still connect with the outside world when they have the chance. So the cultural development is similar, but modern languages are interlinked because of coincidence.
Together with the dragon, they defeated the invaders and developed into big cities with the help of alien's technology and their magic. Until thousands of years ago, monsters "Dweller-in-Darkness" destroyed most civilizations. Finally, it was sealed in the cave behind the dragon scale gate. TaLo/大罗 village became the last known stronghold. Because this is the place has a portal to the outside world. Ten Rings contacted and killed the creatures where it came from, so it released a pulse signal, soon after it received by aliens.
When they came, war was imminent...
K'un-Lun/昆仑 is one of the seven capital cities of heaven, they are the last stronghold of the decline of ancient advanced civilization at the other edge of their world.
Post credit scene:The gate of K'unLun had golden cracks in the air and outgoing voices from that dimension.
the Defenders S2 MCU time 2028
Sequel to street heroes for hire.
Misty Knight no longer as a police, work with Wing & Rand & Cage & JJ. They are Heroes for hire of the NightWing security company. Claire Temple will return.
Punisher & CIA agent Dinah Madani even Echo will be new members. The last time Danny Rand work with them.
1.Some evil Skulls have invaded and replaced powerful people in New York City,
like Kingpin Luke Cage.
2.Vampires are expanding rapidly in NYC Blade comes to Harlem Paradise... Luke Cage surprised at his face...(I said a long time ago)
3. Hellcat and Diamondback escape from the Raft, they back to revenge.
4. Spider-man can be a cameo if possible.
The Immortal Iron Fist: heart of Dragon
TVseries MCU time 2029~
Here are the following ideas, not the number of TV episodes
1.There is a boy who has practiced martial arts for 15 years in China, now he is 22 years old(Younger than Shang-Chi). His Chinese kung fu master and father were the Chaste members and killed by the Hand, Madame Gao's faction. He knows who are the murderers. He hid so he survived.
2.Wong/王 in Kamar-Taj, one day he found an abnormal surge of energy from the Himalayas. When he teleported there, he found that the masters (Yü-Ti/玉帝 and so on) from KunLun opened a new portal gate used their Chi that accumulated for many years. They can't obtain the dragon's Chi until they find the Iron fist is dead.
Lei Kung/雷公 needs find his son Davos, who left home 12years ago. Davos works with Mac Gargan, somehow got he's equipment so Davos become a stronger and more deadly Scorpion. All he wants is recapture his lost rights from Iron Fist.
If you don't mind, you can ask your Chinese friends to help translate. Google Translate is not so good sometimes.
2. 在2017年 中城圈/Midland Circle 深井龙穴 闪回镜头接着高夫人/Madame Gao & 村上/Murakami,(在捍卫者/theDefenders结尾时)
大厦坍塌之时,高夫人拉着那倒地不起的日本人往深处躲避,当建筑物碎块砸下来时,高夫人使用了她最强的气功推向洞口底部来免受伤害,高傲的村上终于不说鸟语了,他说:“你知道的,高。我本是汉人,东渡到东瀛倭奴国,风光潇洒了两千年,活到现在只会说现代日语和古汉语了,(为了方便我使用现代汉语)这辈子罪孽深重,命不久矣,老高你给我个痛快吧!”高夫人把头微点不语,抬起一掌也就一成功力拍向他的天灵盖,顿时但闻一声骨裂但见七窍流血暴毙而亡。高夫人见其已死说到:“好你个鸟人,活腻歪了,我还想多活几百年,这地洞要长生不老药有现成的配方龙骨,地下水也是可以取的,你有救不求我,倒求死来了,也罢也罢,我自取龙骨做灵药,修养个几载再出山。”
下文段落将出现血腥内容,请酌情翻译观看。The following paragraph will contain bloody content, please consider it before translating and reading!
于是乎,高夫人以仗为刃,立斩一截龙脊骨,轻捣脊髓至粉末备用,轻功上骨架,拐杖直指水声处,向壁顶细小的地下河一捅一抽,水自下流,以脊椎为杯接之,接水毕,塞仗止水,以气功热之,直至发黑略显粘稠状,一饮而尽,此药虽苦但补精气神,舒筋活血,延长染色体端粒,细胞再生,返老还童。高夫人大汗淋漓,面露难色,遂打坐运氣,闭目养神,神游仙境,梦回昆仑。
只见其正襟危坐纹丝不动,好似一尊活佛像,一日一夜已过,忽然惊醒,乍看此妇人容颜不过五十。高夫人望向村上的尸体,因地下阴凉而未腐,而自己已三日未进食,此地乃无人之境,哪管他是人是狗,随即就地入座,发功施力,不知她用的是何种法术竟能离奇地抽干村上的血液并凝聚成球悬浮于空中,而后缓缓推出双掌,气浪如微波,仅两分钟便肉香四溢,撕开见其筋肉热气腾腾早已烂熟。饱腹片刻之后,夫人也便来了劲,说道:“可惜这具龙骨,恐怕唯我独享了。”高夫人走到龙骨之中取出剩下的脊柱丢在一旁不远处,一掌击烂地底泥层,露出底下的巨岩,跳起拔出拐杖放水入坑,她竟搅和起了稀泥,只见她拔下六根龙肋骨放入坑边,一侧叠三根围成棺椁状,糊上泥巴固定边框,用氣加热使其干燥,“棺材”俨然形成。接着她在岩面上反复击碎所有的龙脊骨,再次放水浸泡,而后运起氣功引来那团悬浮的血球与龙骨液混合在一起继续用氣加热直至一滩黑糊。调理完毕,高夫人竟宽衣解带褪去衣裳赤裸裸地躺进这满是灵丹妙药/Resurrection Elixir的污泥坑里,吸入一口气后全身没入其中。斗转星移,时过境迁,九九八十一个月后(2024),高夫人破土而出,浴血重生,只见她分明就像是二十出头的模样,头发乌黑亮丽,双眸如莲出淤泥竟不见一丝污浊,肌肤白嫩包裹着她紧实的肌肉,腰板都挺直了,完全就是脱胎换骨,最具经验的头脑却有着最完美的身躯。高夫人,或者说年轻的高女士,甩去身上的污药泥,穿上旧衣裳,身轻如燕,跨过村上的白骨,用氣功清路,拨开断壁残垣,像登山一样从破碎的建筑缝隙中逃出生天。千年妖尼姑,就此重返阳间。她必将掀起浪潮,夺取铁拳之氣,重返魂牵梦绕的昆仑城。
雅丽跚德拉·瑞德/Alexandra Reid 这种人本身基因就有缺陷还吃了最多的灵药,也难怪她的身体再也吃不消了,贪得无厌,无药可救。所以她才是最虚弱的领袖,而高夫人吃药最少,所以她缓慢衰老至七十岁的样子,更何况她内功高深莫测,千年来掌握的修炼武学远非其余四人所能及。哪有什么终极武器,"黑空",真正的王牌则是白昼。
*在此致敬 艾莱珂查·纳曲斯/Elektra Natchios's resurrection/的复活-“蘇”。
Elektra's story will be continued by the new Daredevil series writers. I assume Gao didn't meet her.
3. The boy looking for the Iron Fist and K'un-Lun. The boy found a brand new Hand
A mysterious and powerful young woman is leading this organization. He will unite with the current Iron Fist against their enemy.
When Davos meets Danny again, he knows that Kun Lun is no longer exists from Danny's mouth. He roared: "Danny, you took everything from me! Now I'll take yours, traitor!" They fought for ten minutes, and Danny felt guilty, so he was defeated by Davos' powerful exoskeleton tail. Finally, the Scorpion's tail pierced his chest, then Davos realized that he had almost killed his best brother who grew up with him for fifteen years, and he ran away madly...The boy was unarmed and could not resist the scorpion under the armor, he can only watch Danny die. Suddenly Wong opened the portal, Lei Kung followed him to Iron Fist...
Daniel Rand-K'ai looked at Lei Kung uttered his last words:"对不起,师父..."
After Danny's funeral (This unnamed martial arts boy I think we can choose one name of Bruce Lee's characters in his film, maybe like 郑朝安 Hereinafter referred to as Zheng) Zheng went to K'un-Lun with the masters... K'un-Lun experienced a fierce war and lacked materials for repair. Wong and other Masters of the Mystic Arts were curious & kind so decided to help K'un-Lunan.
Zheng showed his desire for the power of the Immortal Iron Fist, his determination to defend K'unlun from Hand and passed the martial arts test. This time there will be a complete CGI display of the undying dragon
Shou-Lao. How to defeat the Dragon, how to punch the heart of the Dragon, how to form the brand of Chi...
Explore the seven capital cities of heaven. Show the cities merge into one creating the Heart of Heaven......
Fight aliens such as Fin Fang Foom/非凡龙.
Until Gao back to KunLun again.
One day, in order to deal with the warfare outside, the elders allowed Zheng the living weapon to leave...
Even before the next 15 years, they have used new methods to open the portal and can close it, that is the Iron Hand "Only by gathering Chi in your palms and use the
降龙十八掌/Eighteen Subduing Dragon Palms you can control the portal."
The Young Avengers 2 203?
the new Iron Fist join the team.
ShangChi as a cameo, if Ms.Marvel's Bracelet has nothing to do with Kree, I think the ten rings will adsorb with two bracelets like magnetic attraction.This will be a perfect echo of the Ten Rings' Buddhist temple!
I'm currently watching Iron Fist and I noticed that Harold's "missing" finger is still there pretty much all the time. Did his resurrection also regenerate his finger? I know you can see it a few times before that but that's clearly just an error.
Hi all, I'm trying to piece together when each season of the Defenders Saga took place. The Timeline here is helpful but confusing on whether or not it's a flashback or the core events for someone who hasn't seen them yet. Can you guys help me fill in my blanks and/or correct me if I'm wrong?:
Daredevil S1: Jan-Feb 2015
Daredevil S2: Oct-Dec 2015
Jessica Jones S1: Mar-Nov 2015
Luke Cage S1: ???
Iron Fist S1: ???
The Punisher S1: ???
The Punisher S2: ???
The Defenders: May 2016
Daredevil S3: Sep-Nov 2017 (and then pops up in ~July 2024 in NWH)
Jessica Jones S2: ???
Jessica Jones S3: ???
Luke Cage S2: ???
Iron Fist S2: ???
I haven't seen Iron Fist yet but on the K'un Lun wiki page it says it opens every 15 years so if Marvel Studios wants to use this dimension they will have to find another way.
What do you guys think were going to be the Next plotlines for Agent Carter, the Netflix shows, Runaways, Cloak & Dagger, Inhumans and Helstrom before they got cancelled?
Are the Defenders shows leaving Netflix in the US or just other countries?
I'm Chinese and I always think that AnZhou(安州)in the Iron Fist is a fictional city on the southeast coast of China .The reasons are as follows.
1. There are only two places called Anzhou,The big one is a division of a city in the central of China.The other is the humble northern town someone edited as shown in the picture.
2. Danny said the AnZhou is a city. But there's no such a city in real life. As we know Rand's family should have taken their private plane to Anzhou, but Harold's plot forced them to continue flying to the West until their plane crashed in the Himalayas... so the city can't be in the north, but about 30 degrees north latitude.
3. In my impression, Danny Rand&CW&CT they took a car with Shanghai (沪)license plate and parked at the dock.This probably proves that it is located on the southeast coast,so AnZhou close to but could not be any part of Shanghai
By the way, I believe this fictional small city is somewhere in Hangzhou Bay, south of Shanghai.And my hometown belongs to a large language family area Including Anzhou.
Interestingly, in my first language, the Mandarin pronunciation of Anzhou is the same of the big city Hangzhou.
So I have always guessed that Anzhou is an imaginary city, which draws lessons from Hangzhou in its name and geographical locationne.
To sum up, please correct the wrong page!
Hey guys, so I've recently been in a bit of a rewatch of several of the MCU shows, and I just started seeing some parallels that I honestly hadn't thought of before.
I just wanted to see if any of you guys saw them to, or if you have some of your own.
SPOILERS!!!
Helstrom and Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings
-Two siblings (one male and other female) try to fight against the evil brought by their father figure
-The sister has a bob haircut and runs a succesful business
-One of them lives on San Francisco
-Child takes ownership of a weapon previously used by their father.
Ant-Man and the Wasp and Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings
- The father, along with child(ren) and tagalong friend look to rescue the wife and mother of the child(ren)
- Has a set piece using one trasnportation system in San Francisco, in which the hero reveals his powers
Doctor Strange and Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings
- The lead arrives in a foreign country where he must adapt to the beliefs and behaviors of said place
- The main antagonist, after losing his significant other, unleashes an interdimensional being
Black Widow and Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
-Main villains include an old white man leading a powerful organization and an individual who the lead thought he/she killed.
Luke Cage Season 2 and Falcon and the Winter Soldier
- One of its lead villains is an individual who is asking for what he/she believes is owed to them, due to an event in the past.
- The lead character struggles with having to become an icon of the African American community
Iron Fist and Black Panther
-A boy returns to his homeland to try and avenge his father, but is confronted by his "family".
- One of the family members goes from fully following the teachings of his father, to accepting some of the ideas from this foreigner.
Where do y’all think the Marvel Television characters were during the events of Infinity War? I know we will never get a definitive answer to this, but it’s fun to think about. Here’s my thoughts:
Daredevil: Most likely in New York City. Hell’s Kitchen is not too far from Bleecker Street, so he most likely saw the ship that Ebony Maw and Cull Obsidian arrived in. It seems weird that Matt would not immediately investigate this anomaly and head towards the Sanctum Sanctorum, but perhaps he was more focused on getting others to safety and out of harms way.
Jessica Jones: Also would be in Hell’s Kitchen, New York City. She probably met up with Matt shortly after the invasion of Ebony Maw and Cull Obsidian. It could be assumed that she and Matt would have eventually traveled over to the Sanctum Sanctorum after the battle was over and met up with Wong, who informed them what happened and that the Tony and Strange are handling the situation. Hopefully this would give the two enough time for if Thanos did succeed and they were able to prepare some for the coming chaos. After Thanos snaps, these two would probably be working hard to keep the peace in New York, assuming they survived the snap.
Luke Cage: Would be in Harlem during the invasion of Ebony Maw and Cull Obsidian. Since he is still a crime lord at this point, it’s easy to see why he would not intervene and put himself in the spotlight in anyway. So, I would assume he used his resources and connections to try and keep Harlem calm during the chaos of Infinity War. If he did not survive the snap, someone else would have taken over his organization, such as Sugar. We don’t have confirmation of Luke’s fate, but actor Mike Colter said that Luke Cage did not survive the snap (which cannot be taken as absolute canon, but it was just how he decided to respond). So, if Luke was snapped for certain, he would not be around to help the other Defenders keep New York peaceful and would have lost control of his organization. When Luke Cage gets blipped back in Endgame, he would face an interesting dilemma on what he is to do now that he is no longer a crime lord.
Iron Fist: As far as we know, Danny and Ward are still in Asia looking for a past Iron Fist when the events of Infinity War occur. Danny may have witnessed the invasion on the news and called Colleen to see if she was okay. Much like Matt and Jessica, Colleen would probably just be trying to stop all chaos from breaking lose in southern Manhattan. Danny and Ward most likely just remained in their current location until Thanos’ snap, which they may or may not have survived.
The Punisher: Frank was still combating John Pilgrim and Billy Russo when the events of Infinity War were happening. So, he was occupied elsewhere in New York City. He may have heard about the battle on Bleecker Street, but most likely assumed that the Avengers and the Defenders could take care of it. Not his problem. We have confirmation that Frank survived the snap, as there are scenes in the Punisher Season 2 that occur after the snap. It would be interesting to see how Frank behaved after the snap, but we can assume he most likely had a similar path as Clint Barton and just went around murdering criminals (as we can see in the final scene of the second season).
The S.H.I.E.L.D. Agents: The agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. during the events of Infinity War are very clear. Daisy Johnson and the rest of the team were battling against Glenn Talbot in Chicago and trying to save planet Earth from total destruction. So, their actions are well documented. In addition, we also know for sure that they survived the snap, as Season 6 is a year after the snap and they are all still alive and well. However, perhaps some past members of the team did not survive (such as Hunter, Bobbi, or Robbie) since we did not see them in Season 6.
Inhumans: The Inhuman society migrated to Hawaii after the events of Inhumans Season 1. It can be assume that this is still their current location and would be here during he events or Infinity War. One Inhuman, Bronaja, has the ability to see the future, so there is a strong likelihood that the Inhumans knew of Thanos’ plan and that it was to succeed. Why the Inhumans did nothing is unknown, but one reason could be that they were less focused on stopping Thanos and more focused on making sure they were prepared for when Thanos did in fact snap. They may have put Attilan on lockdown and planned for what they should do if king Black Bolt were to be snapped. Though, again, it is still odd that they would not help the Avengers in Wakanda at all if they knew about Thanos. This highlights how selfish the Royal Family of Attilan truly is.
Runaways: The Runaways were trapped in the Dark Dimension when Infinity War occurred and were not even on Earth for six months. When they finally returned, the snap had happened three months prior. So, it’s not like they could have done anything. As for their parents, (the ones that were still on Earth), they all survived the snap and are seen in Season 3 after the snap. One could conclude that by being in the Dark Dimension, the Runaways were saved from the snap, as every single one of them survived.
Cloak and Dagger: We know for certain that they both survived the snap, as we see them in Runaways Season 3 after the snap occurs. During the events of Infinity War, they were probably still traveling the United States looking to help out wherever they could. When they heard about Ebony Maw and Cull Obsidian’s attack in New York, they may have teleported there and checked it out for themselves. This means that perhaps Tyrone and Tandy met Matt, Jessica, Colleen, and Wong and they all discussed what was going on, as it would make sense for them to all be in New York. Tyrone and Tandy would have probably prepared for the worst and most likely traveled into the Dark Dimension during the Battle of Wakanda so that they would be safe from the snap of the Avengers lost. This could explain how they both manage to survive.
Helstrom: Daimon and Ana aren’t really superheroes, so it makes sense why they were not really involved. Sure, they may have seen what happened in New York on the news, but it’s not like they could have really done anything about it. They just aren’t on that power level. They both live on the West Coast of the United States, so they couldn’t have met up with Wong for more information like how Matt, Jessica, Colleen, Tyrone, and Tandy did. They most likely just continued on with their day and hoped that whatever was happening wasn’t too serious.
Agent Peggy Carter and friends: They’re all dead lol
I know Gao faction was about drugs but idk the others
What did each faction of the Hand dedicate themself to?
I haven’t watched the netflix marvel series yet but I plan on watching them soon. I’ve recently seen a lot of people hating on the iron fist series. is it widely hated by the fans, or more importantly, is it good or bad? i quite like iron fist in the comics so i was looking forward to watching it, i’ll probably still watch it either way but i want to know how to set my expectations.
Recently, I finally finished watching the second season of Iron Fist, which I can say is much better than the first but its end left me wondering how was Danny able to get the Iron Fist back when Colleen is the one with it?
I have seen all the Marvel TV series but I still need to see season 2 of Iron Fist, I didn't like season 1 very much and it bored me at some moments, and the truth is I had no interest in watching season 2 but I was thinking about give it a try if it has improved according to Season 1.
I want to watch the Marvel Netflix Series, in what order should I watch them ?
For me, both Captain Marvel and Iron Fist Season 1.
For all it's problems, Iron Fist Season 1 I find has an interesting story of domestic abuse, with Ward Meachum, and just general abuse with Danny Rand in K'un-L'un. Is it greatly executed? Hell no, but they do a decent job at it.
As for Captain Marvel, her wit and sarcasm has slowly grown on me. And the story of memory loss, while again, not the best execution, does bring a unique aspect. And the Skrulls do help it as well.