Hela

Thor Ragnorok:

Marvel What if...?:

WHY IS IT DIFFERENT???

Since Odin was on Earth in 2015 and Ultron nuked the Earth, Wouldn't that mean he died and therefore Hela is released and is all alone in that universe?

The episode said What if Thor was an ONLY child. But the title could mean What if He Grew Up as an only child. What do you think?

Hello everyone! I'm writing a story about Hela's past, and it made me face a question I've been avoiding for far too long: how do Asgardians actually age?

Obviously they're stated to live for thousands of years, but I guess I mean more how they age physically (if that makes sense) and in relation to human years? Like, they clearly stay looking a certain age for a certain number of years, but how many? Do they develop normally up until a point and then slow down drastically? (Otherwise they'd be babies for like a hundred years which would be super inconvenient for the poor parents.) Sorry, so many questions! I know none of these are answered as such in the MCU, but I was just wondering if anyone had any thoughts or theories or had already figured it out!

And a follow-up question: how much older, then, is Hela than Thor? Like, when was "Hela's time", so to speak- when she was Odin's executioner?

Yeah, lots of questions... don't feel you have to answer them all! I would just like some ideas for my story. :) (So that I have a rough idea of when Asgard's conquest and everything was, how much before Thor's birth this was, and how old in Earth years this would have made Hela at the time.)

I tried to look for the answer to this on the wiki and I couldn't seem to find it anywhere. Apologies if this is a really obvious question- I just didn't know that Hela was only Thor's half-sister, as I hadn't heard her referred to as such in the films. Anyway, I was just wondering if this is the case, who Hela's mother actually is? (If anybody knows.) 😊

EDIT: (ughh, sorry, I've just realised how I've managed to turn a four word question into a way too wordy paragraph...)

The Daily Mail has published some new photos from the set of Thor: Love and Thunder, which reveal a cameo I doubt anybody was expecting.

As we already knew, Matt Damon. Sam Neill and Luke Hemsworth are all reprising their roles as the fictionalized versions of Loki, Odin and Thor, but it's just been discovered that they will be joined by a fictionalized version of Hela, who will be played by none other than Melissa McCarthy:

Melissa McCarthy and husband Ben Falcone are spotted filming scenes for Thor: Love and Thunder | Daily Mail Online

Mine are:

1. Thanos

2. Loki

3. Helmut Zemo

4. HYDRA

5. Hela

Continuing the "Scene Discussion" is somewhat controversial decision to kill off all of the Warriors Three, upon Hela's return to Asgard in Ragnarok.

Let's discuss! How do you feel about this? Are you upset that they were all wasted? Are you fine with the early parts of the Thor franchise being removed (characters, locations, tone etc.)?

Leave your thoughts on this down below, and make sure to leave any suggestions of scenes that you would like to discuss in future posts.

Here's my reasons for why I think Surtur is not dead:

Reason 1 (might not make that much since): Surtur says he can not die until he carries out Ragnarok. Now the goal of Ragnarok is to destroy Asgard. From what Odin tells us Ragnarok is the people and there were no remaining people on Asgard (besides Hela). If this is true overall then Surtur can't die yet.

Reason 2: Surtur was merged with the Eternal Flame which means he can't die (this already proves my point). We know that individuals resurrected by the flame can still be killed again (in the case of Fenris and the Berserkers) but its merged with him which means that his immortal. We know Surtur is merged with the flame so he is basically stuck in his bigger more powerful state. This could mean trouble.

Reason 3: He swatted the Hulk like a fly, killed Hela, and survived an encounter with Odin as hinted by Thor, what more can I say.

I wanted to share this idea I had a few months ago with you guys. See, a phrase I often hear about Batman is that each of his villains are an aspect of the hero. I wanted to see if that can also be true about the MCU villains and its protagonist. I'm only focusing on the main villains and trilogies (upcoming or finished).

Spider-Man

• Vulture - Michael Keaton's Vulture is a dark reflection of Peter in how he sees himself as a champion of the lower classes, despite the fact that he is living in pretty good conditions, just as Peter's gotten fairly privileged in this series of films. He's Peter after the tragedy of Uncle Ben, but having learned nothing.

• Mysterio - Jake Gyllenhaal's Mysterio is great power personified, sans the responsibility part. He's Peter's intellect, charisma and good looks, and aspirations.

Captain America

• Red Skull - Whereas Captain America represents patriotism and fighting for the good of the people, Weaving's interpretation of the Red Skull's the complete opposite. While Steve might be fairly humble, Schmidt has ego for days. He has no care for the good of his nation, is fairly self-centered, and he's just in it for amassing more power.

• Winter Soldier - The personification of Steve's guilt and desire to go back, who has come to haunt him. He's also the ideal weapon, not thinking, only follows orders, and isn't affected by the things he does.

• Helmut Zemo - the embodiment of blame, Brühl's Zemo makes every Avenger responsible for the death of his family, even though casualties are bound to happen, as Steve says in the movie. He's Steve before the events of Winter Soldier.

Thor

• Loki- Loki in the first movie is a lesson in humility for Thor. The more humble Thor becomes, the more ego Loki gains. He's a teenager rebelling, whereas Thor is a teenage coming to adulthood

• Malekith- A mirror of what Loki could've become, as it's really Loki's movie. He's not caring for his people, uses armies to attack cities, and seeks weapons capable of destroying the world.

• Hela - She is both Thor and Loki's worst aspects combined. Arrogant, wishing to destroy rather than build, manipulating others into doing her bidding, all of which are buried in the past. Therefore it's somewhat ironic how she's both the goddess of death and responsible for the conquest of the Nine Realms

Iron Man

• Iron Monger - Stane is the same person Stark was before his experience in the cave, probably without the same level of intelligence. He's a buisnessman only interested in selling his product, without caring for the uses given.

• Whiplash - Ivan Vanko is the continuation of the rivalry of his and Tony's parents. They are both skilled geniuses, but the difference lies in the motives. Vanko is doing it as revenge for his father's death, while Tony wants to be a different man to his father, keeping only the good lessons.

• Aldrich Killian - Like Vanko, Killian is Tony's past back to bite him, though instead, it's Tony's fauly this time. Just like Tony in the flashback, Killian is manipulative, making the whole world believe he's someone he isn't. And just like Tony's PTSD in the movie, Killian can't let the past stop harming him.

Doctor Strange

• Kaecilius - Kaecilius is the rogue version of Doctor Strange. He's lost himself after tragedy. He was a prodigy, but just like Strange, believes only he has the truth.

• Dormammu - Dormammu is played by the same actor as Doctor Strange, so you know they must have a parallel. Dormmammu is Strange's ego, and controlling nature in a cosmic entity.

• Karl Mordo - While not yet a villain, Mordo is the ideological opposite of Strange. He's aggressive, follows orders, and isn't creative.

Ant-Man

• Darren Cross - Darren reflects more Hank Pym than Scott Lang. He's Hank's worst aspects passed onto his mentee. Add to that the feelings of neglect that are also shared with Hope, and you have a villain made by this family

• Ghost - Ghost is the vulnerability of Hope Van Dyne. She lost her family, was used for evil purposes. Unlike Hope, she's unable to use her powers properly, and has a father figure who clearly shows affection and care for her.

Daredevil

• Kingpin - D'Onofrio's Kingpin is the opposite of Murdock in many ways. For starters, Fisk had a core family, while Murdock only had his father. Murdock knew love, while Fisk knew anger. Murdock has friends, and FIsk has associates. FIsk is what happens when a person is incapable of growing up.

• Bullseye - Pointdexter is the skill of Daredevil, but also the anger inside of him. Pointdexter is Murdock constantly brought down that he ends up breaking.

Jessica Jones

• Purple Man - Quite simply, Kilgrave is the memory of abuse, along with the trauma events like these entail. Both Jessica and Purple Man want control back (Jessica of her life, and Kilgrave of her), but neither able to.

• Foolkiller - Foolkiller represents the fall of the prodigal child, just like Trish' s eventual downfall. So full of potential initially, he fell into a more tragic path, and so did Hellcat.

Agents of SHIELD

• John Garrett - Another dead man walking, John Garrett is when agents are left behind. Instead of having friends like Nick Fury, Maria Hill and Melinda May, Garrett was (for all intents and purposes) alone, which meant he was a prime candidate of HYDRA recruitment.

• Mister Hyde - Calvin just wants to be the dad that Daisy never had. Compared to Coulson's colder approach to parenthood, he's more open about his emotions and excited. However, he's also very much controlled by his emotions, prone to violent outbursts and moments of madness. This shows the two extremes of parenting.

Guardians of the Galaxy

• Ronan - Just as Quill is still living in the past, Ronan's almost religious devotion to the traditions of the Kree Empire push him. He's also like Drax and Rocket by how angry he is toward changes toward the status quo.

• Ego - Kurt Russell's Ego shows the dangers of expectations put on to people, rather that be Peter's expectations towards Gamora, everyone's expectations towards baby Groot, and of course Ego's expectations towards the creatures of the universe. His disappointment is precisely what led Ego into wanting to destroy the universe as we know it.

Avengers

• Loki - Loki in the Avengers reflects the belief that Fury and the Avengers are the only ones worthy of protecting the Earth, in the same way he believes to be the only one fit to rule. He pretends to be benevolent, like Cap, he has the ego of Stark, the agility of Widow and Hawkeye, the magical artifact of Thor ,and the emotional maturity ot the Hulk.

• Ultron - Like Loki, he continues the theme of control. In this sense, he believes himself as the only way to protect humanity, from itself. He's a threat created by the protectors, the one they couldn't control. He flips the roles, and is now making them play his game. He mostly takes from his father, Stark, but also is like Hawkeye by having a child, Vision, recruiting people to his cause like Cap, and making catastrophes on cities, like the Hulk.

• Thanos - Thanos is taking several of the aspects previously stated in several of the previous characters, though he also brings new things to the table. Like Tony, he believes to a worthy mentor, burdened by knowledge. Like Cap, he's a leader and tactician. Like Thor, he's a warrior, believing himself worthy of wielding the stones.

Think of any other ways the villains reflect the heroes?

Or any other villains I might have overlooked?

I'd like to see your thoughts in the comments below.

What happened to my post? I posted a question about Hela from Thor: Ragnarok and it's gone.

What was wrong about it?