Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania

If they don’t bring Veb back from Quantumania I’m gonna cry. He was the best character in my opinion.

I mean there's no floating heads on this poster. Truth is we don't get floating heads posters (we used back in early 2000s) we get at best floating bodies, most of the from belt to head.

That they feel like classic fantasy/sci-fi stories.

Thor Love and Thunder: we have team of heroes going on a quest to stop a villain with dark powers from reaching a powerful being that will allow him to make wish that could destroy everyone.

Ant-Man and the Wasp Quantumania: we have a family getting trapped in a strange new world that is ruled by an evil tyrant who wants to get out. To stop him they team up with the locals.

The Marvels: we have 3 heroes who are connected with each other and they must learn to work together to stop a villain with a powerful artifact from causing complete chaos and destruction in the universe.

Please be respectful towards other people's opinions.

Here's mine:

WandaVision 7.5/10

TFATWS 8/10

Loki Season 1 8/10

Black Widow 8/10

What If...? Season 1 8/10

Shang-Chi 8/10

Eternals 7/10

Hawkeye 7/10

Spider-Man No Way Home 8.5/10

Moon Knight 8/10

Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness 7.5/10

Ms. Marvel 6/10

Thor Love and Thunder 7.5/10

She-Hulk 6.5/10

Werewolf by Night 8/10

Black Panther Wakanda Forever 8/10

The Guardians of the Galaxy Holiday Special 7/10

Ant-Man and the Wasp Quantumania 7.5/10

Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 8.5/10

Secret Invasion 5.5/10

Loki Season 2 8.5/10

The Marvels 7/10

What If...? Season 2 7/10

Echo 7/10

Deadpool & Wolverine 10/10

Agatha All Along so far 7/10

Jonathan Majors Kang the Conqueror is no more... Avengers: The Kang Dynasty is no more... and what did Marvel do... replace Jonathan Majors with Robert Downey, Jr.... replace Kang the Conqueror with Doctor Doom... and rename and rework Avengers: The Kang Dynasty to Avengers: Doomsday... why!?

I was going to do a post about this back in July or August, but I decided to do it now. Both Loki and Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania set up Kang the Conqueror... the trailers for Quantumania said that the film was going to start a "New Dynasty" for the MCU, the post-credits scene of Quantumania showed the Council of Kangs and introduced us to Rama-Tut, Centurion and Immortus... They planned to attack those who tampered with the Sacred Timeline and the Multiverse... At the end of Quantumania, there's a tagline saying that "Kang will return..."

And Marvel just threw all that stuff they set up out the window and decided to no longer have Kang the Conqueror as the main antagonist of the Multiverse Saga and replace him with Fantastic Four villain Doctor Doom as the new main antagonist of the Multiverse Saga... why!?

Marvel doesn't just "build up things and throw them out the window!" They didn't do that with Thanos. Sure, Disney's competitor and Marvel's competitor had initially set up the character that inspired Thanos as the main antagonist of the Marvel Cinematic Universe's rival shared universe before ditching the director's vision of said rival universe and replace that character with who knows what James Gunn has in store with his new rival shared universe. Kang could have been kept if Marvel just re-hired Majors or re-casted Majors like they did with Thanos. All that build-up for nothing.

I've heard on social media that Marvel can basically sideline Kang because in the series finale of Loki Season 2, "Glorious Purpose," the Time Variance Authority begins tracking down variants of He Who Remains aka Kang the Conqueror thus having the TVA handle Rama-Tut, Centurion, Immortus and the Council of Kangs instead. Sure, Marvel can use Kang the Conqueror as the "big bad" of the next MCU saga (speculated to be either the Mutant Saga or the Supernatural Saga) but Kang is a multiversal villain and I'm pretty sure the multiverse won't be heavily featured as it did in the previous saga and probably someone else will fulfill that role. Hopefully Marvel gives Kang another go.

Also, I think Doctor Doom was meant to be introduced in Avengers: Secret Wars as Kang was nowhere to be seen in either the 1984-1985 Secret Wars or 2015-2016 Secret Wars comics.

Since Loki, I've been under the impression that all the other universes (and I mean physical realities with an Earth, not other alternate dimensions) branched at some point in the past from the Sacred Timeline / are part of the same timeline tree as the Sacred Timeline. Most media seems to support this, up to and including Deadpool & Wolverine, with the notable exception of Quantumania, which seems to show more than one "universe ring" existing, each with its own collection of branches.

Now, many fans seem to believe that non-MCU Marvel universes are NOT part of the same tree as the Sacred Timeline, but instead existed independently of it, even existing seperately when the Sacred Timeline was still isolated. Many claim the the aforementioned visual in Quantumania as proof of this.

What is the consensus of this Wiki community on the matter of a single tree vs. a whole "forest" of trees? And if the consensus is one tree, what do we make of that visual in Quantumania? Conversely, if the consensus is a forest, how exactly does Loki then set the stage for the Multiverse Saga?

In Avengers: Endgame when Steve Rogers went back in time he created a different time line. Also, in Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantomania when Kang mentioned a guy with hummer there are theories that he didn't mentioned Thor because Thor has the Stormbraker but he mentioned Steve from this different time line, in which as Kang say he killed him. TVA didn't do something about it (maybe because it's a theory), but in Loki series sawed a woman who looks to Peggy Carter.

I think for one, make Kang win at the end. Even though I think he never die at the end.

Ant-Man was going to die... eventually.

Not in Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania. The T-shirts were misleading.

But in Deadpool & Wolverine.

I don't think they'll explain Ant-Man Giant-Man's form corpse in Deadpool & Wolverine, how Ant-Man was killed or why Cassandra Nova is using the corpse as a base. Cassandra Nova probably killed the Avengers in another universe and used Giant-Man's corpse since the latter is big and maybe she thought it would be perfect for a base of operations, but that's just my guess.

Probably not as brutal as Mysterio's illusion of him having destroyed the Avengers statues in Spider-Man: Far From Home.

If the Temporal Loom exists to stop the Multiverse from existing, how exactly was the Sacred Timeline severed from the rest of the Multiverse? How did the Council of Kangs and the rest of the Multiverse still exist if the Loom kept the branching timelines of the Multiverse from existing? The Sacred Timeline couldn’t have been severed off from the Multiverse if the rest of the Multiverse didn’t exist. Doesn’t it seem as though the Sacred Timeline was all there was meaning the Council of Kangs seen in Quantumania is a new Council of Kangs?

The Marvel's

Guardians of the Galaxy vol 3

Ant-Man and the Wasp Quantumania

Thor Love and Thunder

Doctor Strange In the Multiverse of Madness

Black Panther Wakanda Forever

What do you think Mantis will do with the Abilisks?

I think this is set up for Avengers: Kang Dynasty.

Mantis and other heroes will ride them through space-time to pursue Kang and they will also devour Kang's Multiversal Engine Core since they eat batteries.

I’m watching quantumania right now and a thought popped into my head, is kang sort of the good guy like thanos is in infinity war. Like thanos wasn’t really evil, he wanted to save the universe from extinction by halving all of life and in doing so double the resources for the lives that were spared. In the same way, kang wanted to stop the council of kangs from messing up the multiverse. He’s sort of like he who remains in that way but instead he who remains wanted to eradicate all kangs no matter who they were. I’m also a bit drunk rn so I can understand a bit clearly why characters like this would want to do something like this in not so good films. Tbf kang should’ve been introduced in a different film rather than an ant man film.

Black Panther Wakanda Forever, Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 3, Ant-Man and the Wasp Quantummaina

At the end of Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quintumnia, The Council of Kangs were discussing Kang The Conqueror’s death and they looked a bit angry. Does this mean that they are trying to avenge kang’s death by starting a war against the 616 universe?