Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D./Season Four

"She’s turned her back on us, Mack! Because something terrible happened, and she didn't want our help getting through it. Well, we've all been through terrible things – all of us – and we've never turned our back!” - Leo Fitz

Daisy Johnson, once known as Skye, spent her whole life looking for a family, looking for someone who loved her. She found this with S.H.I.E.L.D., but also with her father. However, that love for her drove her father crazy. She soon also found her mother, who barely loved her, leading to Skye realizing she was the villain. Having lost both her parents, she settled with a new love, Lincoln Campbell, who died for something that Johnson believed was her own fault. Not being able to handle her grief, she left S.H.I.E.L.D. and became a vigilante, fighting crime on her own, only on her own.

Do you understand Daisy’s decision? Or do you think she could’ve handled her grief better?

Discuss your thoughts below by using quotes, analysis, and direct examples!

Given that Intelligencia and the Watchdogs have the same goal (eliminating super-people), I feel like She-Hulk might be a good way to bring back the Watchdogs and give us some closure, given that they just disappeared after AoS Season 4.

The unique Inhuman Vijay.

if no one has intervened,I guess he could have been cocooned for a year.It was a slow transition but his power even more faster than Spider-man.

I have a theory.If they they dump Vijay's body into the ocean fast enough , trapped his soul in the second cocoon before it leaves his body , so this is the only reason someday he could be anabiosis by someone(I had a wish that Triton would save him)but AoS forgot him and everyone gave up on Inhumans

So,I only wish he could be find by Atlantis in a solo movie of Namor. This could be the only chance that we see him again , it could be a glimpse of the cocoon as an Easter egg ,Or Vijay back to life as a cameo! I think that is a great idea , would you happy to see him again?No one wants it to be the last regret of AoS right?

So, WandaVision's Darkhold is a way different design than the Agents/Runaways version. Despite this, those involved have said that they believe it to be the same book. I just can't reconcile that in my head. To me, it's clear that the two books cannot be the same object (or rather, a very convoluted explanation would be required for the difference in design if they are the same book). Thus, my view is that there are two Darkholds in the MCU.

WandaVision's Darkhold is the original, much older tome, and may have once filled the empty slot in the Kamar-Taj library.

The Marvel Television Darkhold is a much more recent copy. As it has English on the cover, it can't be older than about 500 years. My headcanon is that some sorcerer used the original Darkhold to create the second Darkhold. This copy is still a very powerful object, and can be used to access all the information contained within the original. My theory is that this second Darkhold acts kind of as a search engine for the knowledge in the original (which is why the pages are blank until someone reads it).

What do you guys think? Anyone got a similar theory? Or a completely different one?

If you look up Ghost Rider in this page, they say it's Robbie Reyes. Reyes and Ghost Rider are not the same, and you can realize that when you see Mack and Coulson "posessed" by Ghost Rider

After AoS Season 4, the Watchdogs mysteriously disappeared and were never seen or mentioned again.

I have two theories for their current status:

1. They're still causing trouble, but now they're being dealt with by agencies like the FBI or CIA.

2. Without Ivanov or any major leaders, they've regressed back to just discussing angrily on message boards like they did before they took up arms.

If anyone else has any theories on the matter, please feel free to share.

Is Agatha’s book the Darkhold because if it is it screws up Runaways, Cloak and Dagger, and Agents of Shield people keep saying it is which worries me about how canon those shows are so Um what is the book

What was the point of bringing Felix Blake back in AoS Season Three if he was never going to appear again and just be replaced the following season with some random Russian guy as the leader of the Watchdogs?

To this day we still have no idea what he or the Watchdogs are doing or if they're even still active.

I'd like to believe that they might be brought back through Disney+ or future movies, but I don't see that likely happening.

I just finished season 1 a few minutes ago. Man, I'm so ticked that the television side was scrapped!

The story they were building toward would have been epic and so satisfying! Building on a tiny thread left in AoS season 4 was a genius idea (including reigniting the storyline in Runaways). I was getting attached to the characters in the show and really wanted them to meet Robbie.

My brain was going into theory mode as soon as it ended. Why'd Marvel have to shut these shows down!?

And as far as the showrunner's comments on the show's place in canon: my short response is that it is very confusing. And to whoever came up with the idea to say it's not in the MCU, I'll quote Fury, "I recognize the council has made a decision but given that it's a stupid @ss decision I've elected to ignore it!"

Continuing the "Scene Discussion" is the final appearance of Robbie Reyes, as he departs the S.H.I.E.L.D. team with the Darkhold and opens a. portal to Hell.

Let's discuss! How do you feel about this? Where would you like to see Ghost Rider next? What's your favourite Ghost Rider moment from season 4?

Leave your thoughts on this down below, and make sure to leave any suggestions of scenes that you would like to discuss in future posts.

Continuing our journey to the final season, we shall discuss season 4. After the events of season 3, Coulson has decided to step down as Director of S.H.I.E.LD., and from this, a new Director is appointed, who splits up the team: Coulson and Mack being sent on far and long missions, May leading her own STRIKE team, Simmons working closely with the new Director, Fitz continuing to work in the lab, as well as with Holden Radcliffe, while Daisy has become a vigilante, operating as “Quake”.

The fourth season showcased S.H.I.E.L.D. resurfacing into the public, with new Director Jeffrey Mace and the implemented Sokovia Accords, but the trust within the organisation is not strong, due to the team being separated. Also, this season maintains a focus on the situation with Inhumans and the Watchdogs. Other characters introduced were Ghost Rider, Aida, Lucy Bauer, Jeffrey Mace, Ellen Nadeer, Eli Morrow and Anton Ivanov.

For the first pod of the season, it was focused on the emergence of Ghost Rider, who crosses paths with S.H.I.E.L.D., who are hunting ghosts that have suddenly appeared. In the second pod of the season, after Radcliffe secretly built a Life-Model Decoy named Aida, problems arise, as they turn against S.H.I.E.L.D. to achieve their plans. And in the third pod of the season, the agents find themselves in plugged into the Framework, where HYDRA reigns supreme, so they’ll need to escape and stop Aida.

This season featured a tie-in to the supernatural and mystical concepts introduced into Doctor Strange and a continuation of the affects of the Sokovia Accords. However, there wasn’t really anything in this season that interweaved with the wider MCU, not even any MCU guest stars. At this point, this series has now completely told its own story without the need to depend on other MCU products, as it has before, even using comic book elements that have been used (Ghost Rider & LMDs). It is arguable that because of this, this season is objectively considered the best one, along with the other changes this season made to the series, with the new “pods” structure to the season.

This season contained many memorable moments, such as Quake v Ghost Rider, Johnny Blaze reveal, Mack becomes the Ghost Rider, May being replaced with an LMD, Mack’s robot movie references, the return of the Koenigs, the entire episode of Self Control, Ward and Trip returning in the Framework, The Doctor, Patriot sacrifices himself, Mack loses Hope, Coulson becomes the Ghost Rider etc.

So, what are your thoughts on the fourth season of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.? What are your favourite episodes or moments? Who was your favourite character in this season? Is there anything from this season that you wish to be payed off in season 7?

When Phil Coulson became ghost rider to kill AIDA robbie reyes said that the rider (the spirit of vengeance) only did it for something and later in that episode he said he doesnt envy him so does he mean by that

(i havent finished the show but i dont mind spoilers)