The Problem with 2016 is that at the time of May 2016 it was the same time that the Civil War was going on and if Thor was still on Earth at the time he would be at the very least a little involve trying to calm down the two teams down.

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I must say this. You are absolutely correct, but do you agree that Thor: Love and Thunder takes place around 2024?

A few things to address here, in response to everyone.

1. Yes, Love and Thunder should take place in May 2024, and we had it as such. It's not our mistake that it has been put in 2025, and things like the Screen Rant article aren't working on better info than us, they are in agreement with us from the time and are now outdated, like our work.

2. This is because the timeline book just canonically pinned it to "Fall 2025", as much as we hate it. Nothing that can be done about this. The placement had to move in accordance with this.

3. Extremely extensive discussions have been going on for a couple of months about everything that needed editing relating to the timeline due to the timeline book. A lot of work has been going into it to make hundreds of necessary edits and pick up on the consequential edits because of those edits. We have done very well with this, having covered 99% of it all on a coordinated effort moving things together.

4. A handful of things either slipped through the cracks of the edits or were intentionally reserved to come back to after the first wave of major edits. Changes to Thor and Jane's relationship in 2015-2017 were discussed along with everything else, but have already been noticed as having not made it to the edit stage yet, lined up to edit very shortly as the remaining bits and pieces are swept up.

5. Love and Thunder has only just been edited, and that relationship stuff will be edited imminently to reflect it. While ideally it would have been edited simultaneously, like I say it is simply one of the 1% of bits that didn't quite get done simultaneously and are being circled back to. We just happen to be in the few-day period of mismatch between these two edits and you have happened to catch it at that point. It's a shame this was noticed in those few days given we've worked hard to prevent this kind of thing for 99% of the timeline book edits, but just know it's about to be fixed.

BEJT I'm 100% agree with you. However, if anyone else gets this message, there's something else. Ms. Marvel, on the note takes place in 2025. When Secret Invasion came out, which I wasn't too keen on, they say its 2026, but its not. I just kept saying that it happens in 2025 because Agent Prescod mentioned this, "It started 30 years ago when the Skrulls found Earth. Carol Danvers and Nick Fury promised to find them a new planet."

Then when The Marvels came out, they say it takes place after the series in 2026. How can it be 2026 if the movies takes place right after the Ms. Marvel series, which is 2025?

There's a Long Time Skip in the final episode from the Final Battle and when Carol and Kamala first Switch places at the mid-credit Scene.

@Spenpiano let it go man. Ms. Marvel is in 2025, and SI is in 2026. Let it go. No one is agreeing with you on this. Not even Marvel Studios themselves.

Avengers: Endgame - forcefully has to take place in October 2023; its 9 years after 2014, 5 years after 2018, 8 months before June (FFH)

WandaVision - forcefully November 2023 according to a calendar that shows up in the show and being set a few weeks after Endgame

Shang-Chi - set in April, before She-Hulk and MoM (which in turn is before Hawkeye, according to the timeline book and Disney+, which is solidly in December 2024), making it April 2024

Falcon and Winter Soldier - set in April-May (between Shang-Chi and FFH, according to the timeline book) with the final events being set mostly shortly after the final events of FFH (according to timeline book)

Spider-Man: Far From Home - starts in late June and covers the beginning of July, starts 8 months after Endgame (which is 2023), so its in 2024

Eternals - set in the fall, between FFH and NWH (timeline book), so fall 2024; Ajax 5 years line has to be ignored (the Snap would have actually happened six years before the events of the film)

Spider-Man: No Way Home - set before Christmas and shortly after Halloween, set after FFH and before Hawkeye (the Rockefeller Christmas tree is still up), so it has to be November 2024 (final scene set in early December)

Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness - set after NWH and before Hawkeye (timeline book and Disney+), and before snow starts to fall in NYC, putting it in November 2024

Hawkeye - several evidence in and off screen that it is in December 2024

MoonKnight - early 2025 (after Hawkeye, according to timeline book and D+), the egyptian exposition in London opens in March and ends in June (iirc); set before BP:WF (according to timeline book and D+), which is set during school months (ends in late May), and is set before She-Hulk (according to timeline book and D+) which has an August setting for the gala in the second last episode)

Black Panther: Wakanda Forever - May 2025, after MoonKnight and before She-Hulk (according to timeline book and D+), before the end of MIT classes

She-Hulk - covers many months, but the midpoint of the show's events are solidly set after BP:WF (timeline book and D+), and with an August setting for the gala in the second last episode; also set before Ms.Marvel (according to timeline book and D+), so its set in mid 2025

Ms.Marvel - according to timeline book and D+, placed after She-Hulk and before GotG Holiday special, which is set in late December, so in the final half of 2025; several circumstancial evidences put it in September 2025, mostly

Thor: Love and Thunder - set after Ms.Marvel and solidly before GotG HS (according to timeline book and D+), must be as early as possible due to Groot's appearance being much closer to that of his Endgame's form than the one from GotG HS, so ideally October 2025 (the earliest it can be). Jane's letter would have to be written around early 2017, which sort of kind of works, but its not really ideal. Groot would have to somehow change his physique a whole lot in just two months. This also contradicts Gunn's declaration that Thor and the Guardians were only together for like a few weeks or something, but who knows really if they really were together all the time, in the two years that span between Endgame and LaT. Maybe he just occasionally tagged along with the Guardians, as Thor completed his spiritual journey (would also make sense how the Guardians don't seem really very attached to Thor either).

Werewolf by Night - set after Love and Thunder and before GotG HS (timeline book and D+), explicitly said in the book to be set in Halloween, solidifying an October placement for LaT.

Guardians of the Galaxy Holiday Special - set in Christmas 2025; pretty sure its explicitly stated to be set in 2025, in the timeline book, so there is no way to possibly push it to 2026 to make up for Groot's sudden growth since LaT (pushing the HS to 2026 would also put The Marvels two years after Ms.Marvel, which would be inconvenient, as Kamala is not meant to be aging so much since the events of the show)

Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania - set in June or July (iirc), according to a date on-screen, set after GotG HS (Disney+), so solidly in 2026

Guardians of the Galaxy Vol3 - after Quantumania and before Secret Invasion (D+), the latter being set in November 2026, putting GotG v3 around the third quarter of 2026, ideally

Secret Invasion - solidly set in November, must be 2026

The Marvels - solidly set after Secret Invasion; can't be set a long time after Ms.Marvel; according to the director of the film, Kamala is the same age as she is in the show, which cannot be true, due to the setting anyway, but the contradiction can be minimized by just a few months off, if the film is set shortly after Secret Invasion and in the year 2026 (or perhaps early 2027, I don't know what other evidence there is for the film's setting)

This very solidly places stuff like LaT in October 2025, Ms. Marvel in Sep-Oct 2025, Secret Invasion in November 2026, etc. I disagree with some of the settings too, but its canon, and they're not that big of a deal, if you really think about it. There are worse timeline compromises in the MCU.

Here's an easy workaround for Thor being on Earth during Civil War: We see in the Love & Thunder flashback scene that Thor leaves a dinner with Jane to do a mission for Nick Fury, using the Bifrost. The flashback also shows Thor leave Jane at home twice for missions, again via Bifrost. So Thor's missions could have occurred many times, and anywhere - including off-world. So during the relatively brief timespan of the events of Civil War, Thor could have still been in a relationship with Jane, and off-world. That's even explained in the movie why they broke up, Thor being away all the time. And it matches Secretary Ross pointing out that the Avengers don't know where Thor is during Civil War.

That's roughly what's been decided to make up for Marvel's error, yes.