@IamDPorDerpy Neither was boring. Quite fond of Hands of Time, even if the intro doesn’t rank up there with the best.

from clip on MCU's new face: "strongest character in the MCU"; kind of wondering what clip's speaker bases that on.

@IamDPorDerpy Sounds about right.

So just joining in on this, I have to say I was absolutely stunned by the end, jaw dropped, brain was SPINNING trying to comprehend the timeline and stuff (I gave up at some point) and was just in utter shock. This episode tied everything together so well, and had such astounding visuals. Even back tracking a little, I love Sylvie’s look and the life she chose, I love Lokis character even more than I did already, and really as an artist I’m so excited to try and doodle and play around with the concept of the tree of time!! There’s so many possibilities with that. Loki in general was already amazing to me and so well written, and then he straight up just saved the entire multiverse and sit alone for probably eternity. My brain was rubbed in exactly the right spots and the show ended feeling all nice and wrapped up, I’m just excited to reopen it in whatever is planned for the mcu, there definitely a lot that can be carried on to other films and shows!! My favorite of phase 5 (or 4 idrk) for sure, and definitely up there on the mcu as a whole!

So one question

In the end Loki is at the end of time (or the start of time) sitting in his throne, controlling the Multiverse.

So is Loki taking Kang's place as the new "badguy"? - are we getting "Avengers Loki's Dynasty" now or is it still "Kang's Dynasty"?

Maybe Loki can be in What If...? S2. The Watcher is the only being I can think of that could possibly keep Loki company at the End Of Time. He could be telling Loki stories, especially about Thor, to entertain him. Or he could even teach him how to project illusions into the timelines, to communicate with his friends.

Avenger's title is still the same as before; "The Kang Dynasty".

if any production's title changes, the respective page at this site would reflect that.

and this version of Loki seemed to stop being a "bad guy" in season 1.

Part of this show just don't make sense!

He Who Remains founded the Time Variance Authority to protect the Sacred Timeline and prevent the formation of a new Multiverse. He created the Temporal Loom as a failsafe to maintain the Sacred Timeline. The Temporal Loom would delete the branched timelines and destroy the TVA. The Kang variants would find each other, and another Multiversal War would occur.

At some point, He Who Remains allowed 63 new timelines to branch out. It would have made sense if Marvel Studio did this to show there have been multiple incarnations of the multiverse, and the TVA keeps getting formed time and time again because the Multiversal War keeps repeating. Each time, a different version of Kang creates the Sacred Timeline.

Except that's not what they did, and I can't understand why. He Who Remain had to have the TVA prune these timelines before the Temporal Loom had to reset everything. So why did they show the 63 timelines branching off or the TVA pre-Time Keepers? It serves no other value than to establish Loki's time slipping, which could have been done in an arguably much less confusing way.

And that's just the tip of the iceberg! In season one, the TVA was incredibly worried about timelines "red-lining," as that was the point at which a timeline could no longer be pruned. The Bombing of the Sacred Timeline was thought to be very serious because it threatened another Multiversal War. Yet Gernal dox was able to (relatively easily) prune dozens of timelines that had red-lined.

Furthermore, it was established that only one variant of Kang existed on the Sacred Timeline, a man named Victor Timely. Being born in the mid-1850s, Timely lacked many resources that would be necessary for him to discover the Multiverse. Thus, a Multiversal War could never happen. But when Loki and He Who Remains discuss the Temporal Loom, he explains the Temporal Look would delete all the timeline, and countless of his variants were already "out there" (on the Sacred Timeline). One of them would recreate the TVA (again, I don't understand why they didn't use Loki's time slipping to show this has happened countless times.) But perhaps only the benevolent variants of Kang were allowed on the Sacred Timeline.

Why was the Temporal Loom even created? I understand it powered the TVA, but He Who Remains said it was designed as a failsafe. If the multiverse began again, it would delete all the branched timelines AND destroy the TVA. Without the TVA, new timelines would imminently be created. All the Temporal Loom does is kill innocent people for no reason at all. Marvel Studios could have used this to show how evil He Who Remains was, but they didn't, and I can't figure out why! The Temporal Loom was the most confusing part of season two and didn't even serve a purpose.

Why did Loki have to keep the timelines alive? In destroying the Temporal Loom, he killed all the timelines. But why? If he had let the Temporal Loom do its job, the Sacred Timeline would have been intact, and the Temporal Loom would have been destroyed either way.

He Who Remains' replacement plan doesn't make sense either. He asked Miss Minutes to make Victor Timely his replacement should he die. Why, then, did he try so hard to recruit Loki and Sylvie? Apparently, he had many variants of himself he could have chosen from.

Anyways, these are just some of the things I find don't make sense about this show. I really loved the first season, but this season just didn't make much sense.

I think it’s implied he who remains never intended to have victor timely be his successor which is why Miss minutes says he’ll never be him before being rebooted

^^^ Just to be clear, I loved the first season, many many parts of the second season and the season finale was INCREDIBLE. But I do think the 63 Branched Timelines don't serve a purpose and could have been removed. I just feel like the Temporal Loom and He Who Remains' replacement plan could have been reworked quite a bit and exactly how the Sacred Timeline prevents a Mutliversal War should have been explained in better detail, though I'm not very shure the writers' themselves fully understand it. This was a great TV series but I feel like the 63 Branched Timelines are useless and the Temporal Loom is too confusing.