@Mdsb759 Ah that's cool. OB says the situation is like a snake eating its own tail. which is what Ouroboros is

@Mdsb759 well no, actually OB’s exact words were, “Everything I know I learned from… Victor Timely”.

So yes, they did meet previously

did some rewatching.

"like a snake eating its own tail"; came shortly after a comment about both Ouroboros's and Victor Timely's work.

"which is what Ouroboros is"; Ouroboros the character or someone/something else?

if the character, I do not recall any character claim that about him.

if someone/something else, Wikipedia's page seems to indicate more than just snake.

edit:: @Dark Lord of the Pith face-to-face contact is not the only way to learn from someone.

@Mdsb759 Agreed on that last point. It could easily have been OB reading Timely’s notes.

Mobius said “like a snake eating its own tail”.

The interesting conundrum we get to, if we follow that path, is, how did O.B. get those “notes” from Timely?

Did He Who Remains hand over Timely’s notes to OB? Or did HWR hand write them personally and simply fabricated a lie to make OB think he got them from Timely?

Or, did someone, somehow, jump into the sacred timeline after Victor wrote all those notes, just to retrieve them?

But wait, if Victor was fated to write all those notes anyway, did Miss Minutes and Renslayer even need to create a branch where Timely got those notes in childhood? Once again, it makes that whole excursion a complete waste of time. Victor was bound to write those notes anyway, so that OB could eventually “learn everything he knows” from them.

Interesting puzzle to solve.

Thats why it is very curious to see if they’ll ever show OB’s origin.

Well, Victor didn’t write those notes on the Sacred Timeline.

And it’s more like Miss Minutes and Renslayer had to create the branched timeline to cause Victor to write those notes so they could be given to OB later. A loop with no visible beginning.

How do you know for sure that Victor did not write the notes on the sacred timeline? That’s assuming he even wrote notes.

Victor was living on the sacred timeline before Ravona and minutes interfered with it.

We all must have missed the scene where Ravona handed the notes over to OB. All I saw was Ravona was pruned.

@Dark Lord of the Pith The Sacred Timeline’s Victor seems to have never received the TVA guidebook, so whatever notes he wrote would be far too primitive for anything like the TVA.

about how Ouroboros gotten the handbook, one possibility might be through a library at the TVA. if I recall correctly, one was shown in season 1.

source for library's version of Timely's handbook, perhaps some person/people or machine/machines copied written words from various timelines.

Or Timely simply wrote notes while on the main timeline, and then OB used those notes as the basis for the official handbook.

Or Victor from the main timeline actually met face to face with OB a while back, to teach OB every thing he knows.

Any of those possibilities are just as plausible as any other theory put forth.