Yeah I assumed it was Thanos with no stones as well. If it is Thanos with the stones, then I think that Thanos would be stronger than Dormammu and Kang but Idk if he’s stronger than Arishem. They’re probably on par with each other.

Actually I just changed my mind, if it’s Thanos with the stones then I still think Arishem is more powerful.

@Jinx437 Agreed.

@Romaro Brandon I guess that’s true.

Arishem would destroy all of them including Dormmamu easy

Ps maybe adding Arishem is too op for nearly any fight

@Romaro Brandon The Only reason why Strange "beats" Dormammu was cause of his "get out of death free" card in the Time Stone, somthing he should have done against Thanos in Infinity War. That Time Stone was the only reason why Thanos was able to win in the first place, Thanos also isn't like Strange and won't take a "Cowards way out" of keep on dying. He's a proud warrior and won't use the Time stone like that.

Really because the only reason Thanos won in the first place is because he reversed time after the mind stone was already destroyed. Calling what Dr Strange did cheating but not saying the same thing about Thanos is hypocritical and if Strange is a coward than Thanos is a sore loser

I'm not saying that Thanos is hypocritical for using the Time Stone like Strange is and you just made my point about the Time Stone. I truly believe that if Strange never gives the Time Stone to Thanos then Thanos would have never won at all. Strange would have beaten Thanos if he had use the Time Stone in the first place something that he was afraid of doing. Without the Time Stone, Both Wanda and Thor would have beaten Thanos at Wakanda.

Strange used the time stone before they fought and only saw one way of winning. That way involved him giving the time stone to Thanos. It's that simple.

Ooh, tough call...

Kang...?