The way his character is portrayed in She-Hulk matches his character development in Daredevil: Accepting his identity as Daredevil and realizing he needs help and can't face the world alone. The effects of those lessons definitely show in She-Hulk, at least to me. Even the advice he gives to Jen is another lesson he learned in the Netflix shows.
I mean hard to tell because he made a lot more jokes than he did in his Netflix show
So I would be surprised if that's true
How is this an argument... I am done.
@ThatGuyNamedJoe Add to this, it's has been like 6 or 7 years since season 3 Daredevil (I'll think lol) of course he's a different person now then he was during Daredevil just like Endgame Tony and Iron Man Tony are two different Characters.
@Optimusprimebumblebee "Neo Astral-X" 123 so... if you have a terrible day at work; you're stressed and angry and miserable: then seven years later you have a great day; you're happy and jokey and calm - that means you're now a totally different person? How is that even an argument?
He didn't joke a lot in Daredevil because Daredevil was a serious and brooding show, but he still had an amazing sarcastic sense of humour and made dry jokes throughout.
He joked in She-Hulk because She-Hulk was a comedy. People make jokes in comedies. His character still made the same KIND of jokes though. They were largely dry and sarcastic.
If Deadpool appeared in a Spider-Man movie, he wouldn't be allowed to swear much, but he'd still have a lot of the same types of jokes. If Spider-Man appeared in a Deadpool film, he may be allowed to swear more, but it'd still be the same humour and characterisation.
A change in tone doesn't mean the character is now a different person. That's just ridiculous.
Even in real life, a person could be the funniest person you know, but at their desk job there's no place for that comedy because it's a serious environment, so they're more restrained. You show different facets of yourself in different social circles and situations.
The core elements of the Netflix characterisation of Matt Murdock/Daredevil are all still in there in the Disney+ She-Hulk characterisation of the character: they're just reframed for the different genre.
@Xaxafrad real connectivity as in,
The same actor portraying him.
Multiple realistic references to his history ('We mostly do pro bono work.' ... 'I've done this a million times.')
His suit having exactly the same design, with minor modifications and colour changes (which happens to every single character, all the time).
The literal Netflix theme playing.
The question shouldn't be about whether it is canon. You don't need to prove that it's canon, when it's been established a million times that it is. We don't go around asking if Avengers: Infinity War is canon. It just is. Obviously.
If one thinks something is non-canon, then one would have to prove that. Actual, solid evidence, which is something that doesn't exist, so the 'evidence' becomes simply questioning whether it's canon or not. It's like wondering what the answer for 1+1 is and requiring proof for the answer when you quite literally know it.
@Dark Warslinger wait but in Avengers: Infinity War, Steve has a beard and Natasha has white hair. Are you telling me that even with this GLARING differences to their previous appearances, we're supposed to believe that Infinity War is canon!?!
Theme songs and costumes aren't the kind of connectivity I mean. I want a reference to something unique that transpired in any of the 3 seasons of Daredevil. All I've seen are allusions of connection. Please note that's not a typo for "illusions," as their definitions are different.
That's kind of stretching it. It's not necessarily needed for them to explicitly talk about something from the past, unless it actually is essential for the story they're telling in the present. For example, Doctor Strange isn't going to talk about how he defeated Dormammu or became a sorcerer or point out any specific events from his movie in, say, Infinity War, because that just wouldn't make sense. This doesn't mean Doctor Strange (the movie) is not canon, nor was it ever thought to be non-canon. But his actions in Infinity War were indeed talked about in the Multiverse of Madness, where it did make sense.
So similarly, Daredevil in She-Hulk only referenced things from his own life that needed to be told for that story, for that episode. When it makes sense for him to talk about other things about himself and his past in other shows or movies, he will. It's just as simple as that, and in no way does it mean that his show is non-canon. I mean, are we going to consider Doctor Strange as non-canon simply because the events of that movie were never referenced in detail and only, as you quite eloquently put it, allusions of connection were seen?
I'm just tired of the camps and the arguments. As long as the ambiguity exists, these discussions will as well.
What do you think?