@MarvelSharky

The X-Men movies deal with mutant registration with exactly the same comparison between gun and human. And the outcome is exactly how you’d expect, they go after the mutants.

Tony Stark is to blame for why they needed the Accords in the first place, they should have cracked down on Stark and not the Avengers. However, virtually every government in the world has some level of corruption, especially when it comes to having rich supporters.

Stark wasn’t willing to take the blame by himself, and Cap took Tony’s fall. If it weren’t for the Accords, Thanos probably would have had a harder time taking the Avengers on.

Finally, there are members of government who are genuinely good, and do exactly what they’re supposed to, but they’re few and far between. Some cases are harder to see than others, Black Widow, Hawkeye, and Tony are just regular humans with no super powers. Cap is mediocre compared to other super humans. So registration for them doesn’t make a lot of sense. It’s hard to really find someone to be accountable like that. If they can protect the planet, maybe it’s better to be outside the government’s reach, but they should also be accountable to the people they serve.

@OldTemplar7

“they should be accountable to the people they serve”

That sentence I particularly have a problem with, because the worlds heroes/The Avengers never took an Oath to protect people. They don’t work for any law enforcement agencies or Government. They’re literally private citizens (yes they’re extremely powerful private citizens but that’s neither here nor there) and so they don’t “serve” anyone. Not technically.

Fury brought them all together and he’d be the only one I’d trust to run The Avengers anyway. I agree with the majority of your reply, just not that last line. Just because they have power, does not mean they’re automatically our protectors. Of course most of them are willing to put their lives on the line to protect us anyway, and The Avengers still get hate for it most of the time but that seems unavoidable. You can’t make everyone happy.

I just said they SHOULDN’T work for a government. But they should still be accountable for their actions to the PEOPLE. Even if they are saving the world, no one asked them to. Just as you said, they never took an oath. So they are absolutely accountable for what they do. Especially Stark. If it wasn’t for him, Ultron, Sokovia, none of that would have happened. That’s just how the world works, if there is risk involved, someone is going to have to take the blame for things. I agree with Cap. They need to be outside the government, but not outside accountability. They need to be able to take responsibility on their own effort.

Tony signed the Sokovia Accords but he still recruited Peter Parker. Isn't that in violation of the accords ?

^Tony is a hypocrite

Of course

@OldTemplar7 Right, and I never said you did say that. I said the specific sentence at the end of your paragraph was what I had a problem with, since it outright said “people they serve”. They don’t serve anyone.

But how do you reconcile the difference between those two ideas is the problem. Should they be accountable for their actions when saving the world? You say no one asked them to, but I’m pretty sure if you put it to a vote that majority of the people would want The Avengers to save the world for them. Even if they didn’t, The Avengers have the means to save the world and they’ll save it if only for theirselves because most of them call it “home”. Even Thor (before he settled in New Asgard and it was his official home too) appreciated the Earth at least, and fought for it multiple times.

We’ve seen what happens in What If?… when something doesn’t happen the way it should’ve. “The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one” is a quote I can’t quite remember where from, but it’s applicable to the situation. Wanda saved an untold number of people by stopping Crossbones, but she accidentally killed people in the process too. I don’t agree with that, but do I think she deserves to be punished for the rest of her life? No. I could give you other examples too but this would turn into an essay…more so than it already has. It’s a very complicated subject, there’s great arguments for both sides. Let me reiterate again as well, I don’t agree with the accords, but I agree with the sentiment behind them.

I don't agree with the Sokovia Accords

Yeah, and also avenegrs are not reckless and unstable ( it not their fault)those unforgivable jerk people. Jessica jones were right. Misplaced and sorry.😭. I don’t agree with sokovia accords

Remember Rhody , reason your suck speech to Ross , it weren’t the accords vision would be here. Ross is a hypocrite.

^^Sorry I’m just now getting back to this, I got busy.

Anyway, I think we are trying to say the same thing and are just getting caught up on the wording. Overall, the Avengers aren’t needlessly reckless. I feel like Stark is honestly the only one that should be put on a leash. But IF something where to happen, especially a rogue hero or something, there should be someone they do answer to that isn’t going to try to use them for political purposes.

All that said, I suppose in a couple months we could see some representation of this Far From Home.