If Loki escaping is the only thing not allowed to happen, then how is the Avengers traveling to 1970 “supposed to happen”, since it is the effect to the cause of Loki stealing the tesseract? I would think that there are more parts of the Time Heist that aren’t supposed to happen, like Loki stealing the Tesseract and Thanos learning of 2023, and maybe the stealing of the Tesseract in 1970.

It wasn’t supposed to happen, it’s probably part of the alternate time line but since the timeline where it was taken from 1970 was fixed then it became more of a possible future that ended up happening.

Not if she's what was supposed to happen.

@Alxzer

Great catch! I sure hope they point out that gap in logic later in the show.

The TVA honestly seems like a bunch of hypocritical, illogical butt-holes. My bet is they mask their true agenda behind this guise of bureaucracy and justice.

I was thinking that, if the TVA can just reset any timeline to the way it was before, why did they take Loki prisoner in the first place? There's definitely something not right about them

@Ericboy405

"My bet is they mask their true agenda behind this guise of bureaucracy and justice."

Sounds familiar...

Actually Alxzer proves a point. But as a counter-argument, I'll say that Tony and Cap travelling to 1970 wasn't supposed to happen either. That was a result of another unexpected event, which was Loki escaping with the Tesseract. Had Loki not escape, the Avengers would have retrieved the Tesseract from 2012, instead of 1970, and the events of 2023 would play pretty much the same anyway. 1970 was the consequence of Loki, but Loki not escaping wouldn't have been detrimental to their plan. Loki was indeed an undesired variant that was allowed to exist because the Time Heist was allowed to happen. Therefore, Loki escaping ended up being the side effect that the TVA was left to take care after the Avengers' Time Heist.

I think hinging monumental character decisions off of small experiences doesn’t make a ton of sense, but in storytelling it’s pivotal. I would argue that Steve would not have gone back to be with Peggy (leading to him passing on the shield to Sam) and Tony would not have sacrificed himself if they had not gone to 1970 (Steve sees Peggy in the flesh again, Tony talks with his dad and gains perspective). Sooo, events seemingly supposed to happen (Old Steve, Tony death), hinge on 1970 Time travel, which hinge on something “not supposed to happen” (Loki picking up the Tesseract). I just don’t think, from a writing perspective, 2023 post-Time Heist would have played out the same have Cap and Tony not gone to 1970.

The TVA’s logic is clearly flawed, and I severely hope the mini-series ends with the reveal that the deviation occurs when the Avengers arrive in the past, due to their removal of the Infinity Stones splitting it from the point of arrival. Loki’s decision didn’t change anything.

Okay, but why one alternate (created) timeline is supposed to happen, and why the other is not?

Yes , Varients are people that have no place in the timeline since their timeline getting clipped= another version of themselves is there who experienced the future as it happened in past movies

So not only Gamora but all of Thanos’ army and Nebula as well