You know I’ve really warmed up to the conclusion of Avengers: Endgame over the past year after initially being critical of it, but this here still irks me (not too badly) for some reason.

I think it’s the idea of a complete reset for Gamora’s character arc and relationships that’s bugging me. I mean, the original spent 4 years with Peter and only just managed to tell him that she loves him. Now, we have an emotionally developed Peter and a blank slate Gamora. I’m not sure where Marvel is going with this, but I still trust them.

@SonOfAres1 I agree, although by no means is Peter emotionally developed. That dude has some serious issues that he doesn't have the best way of dealing with. But, that's all apart of his character, and why he is great.

I don's expect them to copy Nebula's arc. 1. That would be lazy, and 2. That Gamora at that time was already going to betray Ronan and her father, so she doesn't need to become good, as she is no longer, or I guess never was, evil.

Ah, I guess I should rephrase how I described Peter because you’re definitely right in that regard.

What I meant was that Peter had at least opened himself up to sharing a connection with someone, whether it was friendly like with Rocket, parental like with Groot, and most especially romantic like with Gamora.

Yeah, it is a shame to now have all that development sort of be reset. It's an earlier Gamora, so they're not taking away something from the character, but in a way it kind of is. And there's no really way of having Gamora join them without us feeling robbed in some way. Unless they do some mind/magic thing where they give her the mind of her future/alternative self, but then that could also just be a cop out to brush over what happened.

True, I fear that the same thing might happen if they try to bring Vision back into the main MCU reality (i.e. Wanda tries to recreate him). But at least with that, there is the possibility of an extreme repercussion.

Again, I trust that Marvel knows what they’re doing, but I just do not want the deaths of Infinity War to lose their meaning.

"I just do not want the deaths of Infinity War to lose their meaning." - Except for the fact that Loki and Vision are getting their own tv shows. One about the character in an alternate reality, and the other being recreated in whatever WandaVision is. And as we've discussed, Gamora being pulled from the past into Vol. 3. Of course, these characters aren't the ones that died, but it is all just because Marvel can't handle killing a character and ending it there. I mean, we're getting a Black Widow movie after she was killed, despite how they refused to make one for her prior, but now have because she's dead, and they have no other choice (maybe not for that EXACT reason, but it's an interesting observation).

But here's how those examples are different:

Black Widow takes place before she dies, so it doesn't take away from her death. If anything, it gives further insight to her character and adds meaning to it.

Vision isn't real, he's a recreation from Wanda's mind (as far as I can tell) created as a result of a complete emotional shutdown on Wanda's part because of losing Vision. She went from Vision's death to killing Thanos to Tony's death without properly processing any of it, and this is the result, so Vision is never really there.

Loki is problematic for the same reason as Gamora. If he ends up in the main universe (which him tying into Multiverse of Madness suggests), then it takes away from his death, especially if he's in Love and Thunder. Just like how there are very few ways that having Gamora in Guardians 3 would still honor her death in Infinity War.

Yeah, I know. I'm not saying these are the main version of the characters, I'm just saying that even after the death of all of those characters, they all still live on in some way, instead of their deaths being the last appearance of them. The minutiae of how they are continued is not important, it's that they are still being used.

I was kind of a pointless scene because it was a different Gamora and then they just did a typical kick in the balls joke which wasn't funny in the slightest. So it ended up being emotionless and played for a joke