Exactly. Which is why I'm a little iffy on the 1980 date.

<p>Hey, it's me, thought I'd show up again... </p><p>For AoS stuff, if its actually altered history (and not something that has happened but was changed in "the history books") then I think it'd rather be an AR, considering how they played with the whole idea of the relativety of time and predestination paradoxes in the early episodes, meaning that everything that you "change" in the past has already been changed before you did it because the past, including your actions, has already happened... Also, the chronicom lady mentions "branches" or rather "trees" on the timeline, whatever that means... </p><p>I also have another question that has probably been asked before. In the 2018 Marvel Comics event "Spider-Geddon", which features multiple Spider-Men, Spider-Women and other Spider-Totem hosts from different realities from the Marvel multiverse theres a Spider-Man which is specifically designed to match Tom Hollands/the MCU incarnation of the character strongly indicating (and intending to be so) that that character is indeed from Earth-199999, a similar situation occured in this years "Spider-Verse" (Volume 3) limited series, which showed MCU Peter Parker, or at least a character that was modelled after him, in a vision. If we treat those cameos as canon, then I assume that those events are set relatively late in the timeline? Considering that Peter is not sure about the existence of a or the multiverse in "Spider-Man: Far From Home", they would at least be set after that movie, right? </p><p>Have a good day and especially a good Independence Day to all citziens of the states. </p>

<div class="quote"><i> <p>Mystery Phantom wrote: I also have another question that has probably been asked before. In the 2018 Marvel Comics event "Spider-Geddon", which features multiple Spider-Men, Spider-Women and other Spider-Totem hosts from different realities from the Marvel multiverse theres a Spider-Man which is specifically designed to match Tom Hollands/the MCU incarnation of the character strongly indicating (and intending to be so) that that character is indeed from Earth-199999, a similar situation occured in this years "Spider-Verse" (Volume 3) limited series, which showed MCU Peter Parker, or at least a character that was modelled after him, in a vision. If we treat those cameos as canon, then I assume that those events are set relatively late in the timeline? Considering that Peter is not sure about the existence of a or the multiverse in "Spider-Man: Far From Home", they would at least be set after that movie, right? </p> </i></div>
<p>You all use the word "Canon" so lightly. Until proven otherwise, that character is not the Earth-199999 version of Spider-Man, simply a character from a different reality similar to it. </p><p>That doesn't make it "non-canon". Simply it is different. </p>

<div class="quote"><i> <p>Shabook wrote: </p> <div class="quote"> <p>Mystery Phantom wrote: I also have another question that has probably been asked before. In the 2018 Marvel Comics event "Spider-Geddon", which features multiple Spider-Men, Spider-Women and other Spider-Totem hosts from different realities from the Marvel multiverse theres a Spider-Man which is specifically designed to match Tom Hollands/the MCU incarnation of the character strongly indicating (and intending to be so) that that character is indeed from Earth-199999, a similar situation occured in this years "Spider-Verse" (Volume 3) limited series, which showed MCU Peter Parker, or at least a character that was modelled after him, in a vision. If we treat those cameos as canon, then I assume that those events are set relatively late in the timeline? Considering that Peter is not sure about the existence of a or the multiverse in "Spider-Man: Far From Home", they would at least be set after that movie, right? </p> </i></div>
<p>You all use the word "Canon" so lightly. Until proven otherwise, that character is not the Earth-199999 version of Spider-Man, simply a character from a different reality similar to it. </p><p>That doesn't make it "non-canon". Simply it is different. </p> </div> <p>Thought that that'd be the answer. Thanks! </p>

<p>Hey all! There was a new scene on Instagram today featuring the song "Don't You (Forget About Me)" by Simple Minds in-universe (I think, it stops once Deke hits the thing and Coulson appears), which was released in 1985. It seems like the bulk of <i>The Totally Excellent Adventures of Mack and the D</i> might be after that. Like, they'll do a little bit with Deke and Mack immediately after the Zephyr leaves and do a "three years later" title card (hence Mack's beard and Deke's slightly increased ruggedness, both of which are hilarious to me, especially when juxtaposed). Just thought I'd bring it up. </p>

<p>This might seem like a random question to ask and have nothing to do with anything but since America has an election going on this year and I realise the MCU is ahead now a few years but will they ever feature Ellis's replacement at some point in the MCU? </p><p>Taking out Trump having won in real life I doubt the MCU would have that in the films if anything they'd have a stand in type character but even then we're in the future now anything could have happened in the intervening years and that's taking the MCU's weird election dates. </p><p>Some people have given the theory maybe Ellis was the Vice-President instead of Joe Biden and something happened to Obama that he had to step away and then Ellis took over. It'd allow him to run the traditional term from 2012-2016 since he would have been stepping in for someone else and since he'd win then it'd work out that he's captured by Killian. It'd also explain why he's President in 2017 or seems to be. Again maybe I'm wrong but it's just a thing to think about with the political plot of Falcon and Winter Soldier and Ross seemingly forming the Thunderbolts he'll have to be acting on a President's order and it can't be Ellis going forward. </p>

<p>I think in the MCU it's like this; </p><p>- Obama (2008-2012) </p><p>- Ellis (2012-2020) </p><p>So Ellis shouldn't be president in the F&WS unless because of the snap the government didn't change in that time period or something, I don't know. </p>

<p>Well there's a comment regarding Ellis welcoming Cap back to the world but that maybe could have come later. Also if Ellis was elected in 2012 he wouldn't be there till January 2013 so if it was Christmas 2012 then it'd be Obama kidnapped. Though if Iron Man 3 is supposed to be Christmas 2012 Maya's joke about a kid being 13 years old tracks then the kid would be born in 1999. The problem with that is Maya wouldn't become pregnant until after the new year and the kid would be born sometime in 2000. Also Avengers has Obama's Speaker of the House in it on the screens reacting to the Avengers.  </p><p>
</p><p>Honestly if they wanted to have it still be in 2012 that Ellis became president instead of Obama had the Attack been a world wide attack then maybe Obama could have been a casualty and then Ellis would have to be sworn in. I mean I don't know if they'd kill off a real president even if it is a different universe to ours. </p>

<p>It's actually slightly more complicated than that. Linked the answer we came up with, since Obama was definitely president at some point (Nico Minoru: "You guys haven't had date night since the Obama Administration"), but there's also everything you say, and Trump's campaign is alluded to at one point, which makes everything slightly more confusing. In <i>Soul Brother #1</i>, Trump's candidacy is alluded to ("Make America Great Again") is mentioned, but they never actually say if he became president, making it all even more confusing. But yeah, that's the best solution we got is the linked reference. </p>

<p>Yeah I've seen that every two years theory. But again Ellis seems to still be President in 2017 but he'd probably be up in terms of his terms by then. If it's 6 years instead of 8 then in November he'd have to hand it off to someone else but even then he'd still be there till January 2017 but Mace being revealed as an Inhuman came after that which is the last current time the President is mentioned and that's in April when someone new should be there.  </p>