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Kuusakat1122·6/10/2018 in General

Time travel in Avengers 4.

So, as we know, there is a big change that we see time travelling in Avengers 4. I have allways kind of "hated" time travel movies. I mean, Days of future past is excelent movie, but I'm just allways scared that the timd travel makes no sence.

So, today i want to discuss about time travel. So, there is one thing that i have allways been thinking about. So, Let's say that "time" or "timeline" is chain of "moments" and every "moment" is like 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 nanoseconds or something. Anyway, the smallest possible time. Then, only way time travel could work is that in the chain of those "Moments" the MCU time is the "first one" or like that time kind of decides what happens in the future. Because, think about this. If you go back in time and change something, it means that the future version of you, let's say like you 70 years in future has already done that 70 years ago so history has already changed so you shouldn't need to do that. So, the only way to change the past is by existing in the "Leading time" wich is the first one on the chain of moments.

And now i'm gonna say something VERY confusing. It's one problem in time travelling. And i really hooe you even try 6nderstand what i'm saying...

so, if you are in the "leading time" and go back in time to kill Hitler in let's say 1941, then version of you in the moment that comes right after the "leading time" also goes to 1941, should they see Hitler already being killed because history has changed because you in "leading time" has already done that. Or, should yourself in the time right after "leading time" then see yourself in "leading time" killing hitler? or tbh, should version you in every single "moment be there at the same time? Because then in 1941 Hitler sees that guy from future comes to kill him, he should at the same time see everyone come to kill him? so confusing.

I know, I know, I's confusing but tell me did you get it?

And i know that This is more Time travel discussion than MCU discussion but this is alsi about Avengers 4 so.... Idk, i'm very bored.

One tip, Don't try to think of time travel, only thing you get is headache.

(Edited by Kuusakat1122)

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KnightOfRen2·6/10/2018

You know what is interesting about time travel? It is possible to travel forward in time in real life according to relativity as time can be altered by gravity to make it so that an hour on one planet might be the equivalent of 1 year on Earth. Interstellar dealt with this quite well. Also I think you need to think about the butterfly effect, where one small action (like stepping on a butterfly) might alter history (like if it was seeing that butterfly that inspired Hitler to run for President or whatever the head of the Weimar was called). It is impossible to travel backwards in time scientifically speaking as that would require breaking the speed of light which is impossible however assuming we could I think the most plausible way to do it would be how Xmen and Deadpool and a Netflix TV show that I can’t remember the name of do it, they take over themselves at the time so to avoid that whole meet yourself thing and then do what they need to do before giving themselves at the time false memories and leaving. I also understand what you are saying about the whole if that persons gone you wouldn’t need to go back in the first place so for this to work time would need to be like a flowing liquid that once you change the flow of it keeps going on that path, as in once you go back to the present you will never have traveled back in the first place but you will have altered times flow. That seems like the only way time travel could work without breaking the universe

Sorry if this doesn’t make any sense and just sounds like the ramblings of a mad man as it is almost midnight where I am from

(Edited by KnightOfRen2)

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Bund·6/10/2018

I think Thanos in Infinity War is actually time traveled from future.

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Yogen Thiran·6/10/2018

I kinda lost it halfway there. I will just let u know what i understand. Anyways, i am not a time travel pro.

Its about making choices.

There are three separate time period. The past. The present. The future.

1) If the 'One' in the present makes a choice to go to the past. The present and the future will be manipulated.

2) If the 'One' goes to the future. The present and past will be manipulated.

3) If the 'One' stays in the present. The past and future will remain unchanged.

SCENARIO 1

For example, i go with number 1). I go to the past to kill a man wearing a crown that killed my mom. The present and future will go through a manipulation process. So i kill the man and take his crown back to the present to feel in the void that i left by time travelling back in time. So after the manipulation process of the present, i will have my (present day) mom back and the crown i took will stay with me in the present. The manipulation process of the future meanwhile automatically gives my future self a memory of me killing the killer wearing a crown. In the future i will also have my mom and the crown i took, with me. This is because my future self and past self did not make any choices of time travelling into other time periods.

SCENARIO 2

PAST(a): year 1995

PRESENT(b): year 2018

FUTURE(c): year 2030

FUTURE(d): year 2050

Going with number 1) again but this time with my other selfs from different time periods making choices to time travel at the same time. So like i said. My PRESENT(b) self timetravels to the past to kill the murderer. But my FUTURE(c) decides to go to the PAST(a) as well to kill my PRESENT(b) self from killing the murderer. If my FUTURE(c) self succeeds in killing my PRESENT(b) self, this will automatically erase my FUTURE(c) self. Because without the PRESENT, there wont be a FUTURE. Unless the FUTURE(d) self of my FUTURE(c) self makes a choice of preventing the FUTURE(c) self from killing the PRESENT(b) self. In other ways, the PAST(a) self could prevent all this by forgetting or loosing the sense of revenge, this will automatically bring those PRESENT(b) self, FUTURE(c) self and FUTURE(d) self to their respective time periods.

Remember, every time a person leaves a void in that time period to travel back or forth in time. That PRESENT time that they left will go through a manipulation process in where the result is based on what choice you make!

In X-Men: Days of Future Past case, it is Mystique (past) putting down the gun instead of taking a shot. Which automatically manipulated the future.

(Edited by Yogen Thiran)

What do you think?