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ALL POSTSDefining Magic in the MCU
<p>There had been may threads about this subjects, but with the Doctor Strange movie coming out nearly everywhere today, the interviews with Kevin Feige and Scott Derrickson and some anticipations in "Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.", it wouldn't be the right time to define the concept of magic in the MCU given the amount of material we have right now?
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<div class="quote"> <p>Professor Ambrius wrote: </p><p>I must admit I was a little bit hurt by your response. All I was trying to say in regards to my personal view is that by making magic and science one on the same they take some of the fun out of magic. I was in no way trying to bash the MCU or anyone connected to that decision. </p><p>As for my suggestion, I just trying to see if there was a middle ground if a page for the topic of magic is indeed created. I understand what they're trying to do by rooting magic in science but I do think the page should be open to the idea that some magic cannot be explained by science standards. </p><p>I think this will be my last input on this subject. Uskok, you don't need to worry about responding. I understand your position on this matter and the fact you're word carries more weight on this site then mine. You're still one of the best Administrators on this site and one of the friendliest I've come across. </p> </i></div>
<p>It was never my intention to hurt you. Please accept my apology. Sometimes I jump to conclusions too quickly. As for the position of magic in the MCU, I don't think the creators of the MCU are taking the fun out of the magic. They're doing the opposite. By connecting it with science they're trying to make it more believable. </p> </div> <p>It's magic. Unbelievability is whats great about. Besides, Dr Strange clearly makes a disconnect from science. As for the Asgardians, it could be that they have combined magic and science into a form of alchemy. </p>
<div class="quote"> <p>Professor Ambrius wrote: </p><p>I must admit I was a little bit hurt by your response. All I was trying to say in regards to my personal view is that by making magic and science one on the same they take some of the fun out of magic. I was in no way trying to bash the MCU or anyone connected to that decision. </p><p>As for my suggestion, I just trying to see if there was a middle ground if a page for the topic of magic is indeed created. I understand what they're trying to do by rooting magic in science but I do think the page should be open to the idea that some magic cannot be explained by science standards. </p><p>I think this will be my last input on this subject. Uskok, you don't need to worry about responding. I understand your position on this matter and the fact you're word carries more weight on this site then mine. You're still one of the best Administrators on this site and one of the friendliest I've come across. </p> </i></div>
<p>It was never my intention to hurt you. Please accept my apology. Sometimes I jump to conclusions too quickly. As for the position of magic in the MCU, I don't think the creators of the MCU are taking the fun out of the magic. They're doing the opposite. By connecting it with science they're trying to make it more believable. </p> </div> <p>It's magic. Unbelievability is whats great about. Besides, Dr Strange clearly makes a disconnect from science. As for the Asgardians, it could be that they have combined magic and science into a form of alchemy. </p>
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<p>That's the problem. They never mentioned any alchemy. They clearly say that magic and science are one and the same. Also, unlike the Asgardians in the rest of the Marvel Multiverse, the Asgardians in the MCU openly admit that they are not gods. There is nothing supernatural about them. They are just a race that lives longer than humans but they are mortal just as we are.
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<p>The fact they aren't gods does not preclude the fact they are have supernatural power. What happens at the end of Frigga's funeral is clearly not scientifically explainable. Same for Strange's mystical power. The fact that the mystical component of the MCU is very grounded doesn't make it "fake" magic. In the past, there was no difference at all between this two methods, even for us. Alchemy was the ancestor of modern chemistry.
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<p>Also, we just got confirmation that there is such a thing as a soul in the MCU. That alone goes outside science.
</p><p>Also, what was gonna be your reasoning with the Soul Stone when it showed up?
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<p>This thread was supposed to be to outline an upcoming article about magic.
</p><p>Stay on topic.
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Guys any opinions about creating an article for Eldritch Magic?
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A general article about magic should be enough.
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Alright.
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<p>Here is the article I just created. Please feel free to edit it.
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<p>Guys, sorry if i didn't add very much to the thread, but my shoulder got dislocated yesterday and now i'm on recovery time. I'll add what i can in the next days to Blaublau94 article.
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