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Runaways and Avengers (Marvelus)
Marvelus wrote: Hey BEJT giving a thought about how the Snap could have happened in the Dark Dimension at some point, what if it really did and that is why Morgan turns to ashes in the first place? I loved that effect, it was totally a call to the Infinity War ending, also the time brazelets the team uses look the same to the one the Avengers use. She doesn't turn to ashes, she's returned to the Dark Dimension, and that crumbling effect is what that looks like apparently. I did think it looked remarkably like the Snap though. But regardless, the scene takes place 3 months after the Snap.

I also noted the time travel bracelet, though that one is almost certainly coincidence, given the time when the props were made.

Agent Carter "6 Months" Line (Marvelus, Mrmichaelt)
Marvelus wrote: Watching Agent Carter S1 E7 Snafu, Sousa tells Carter that they have met 6 months now, and that he stuck by her during all that time, that would contradict Peggy Carter staying at Chief Dooley's office since April 1946 (after S.H.I.E.L.D.'s plans are put on hold) unless we assume that they knew each other by then and worked together under John Flynn's leadership before they are taken to Dooley's office. Mrmichaelt wrote: The Agent Carter short starts with Carter not given an assignment in the 3 months since she's returned. The paperwork she pulls out is that mid March date so it take place mid March so she would have returned to active duty in December 1945.

The part when Sousa tells Carter they met 6 months now was in early May 1946 so they met in November 1945.

It's a game of math gymnastics. Someone rounded up, either Carter in the short or Sousa in the episode. They likely met at Flynn's office in late November/early December when Carter first returned to active duty then Sousa went to Dooley's office before the events of the short. Marvelus wrote: Nice Great stuff, yeah. I remembered the line but I think we just dismissed as them having worked together a bit 6 months ago before being assigned to Flynn, then coming back to working together in March, but this is even better.

The one-shot has always been at odds with the show, but there's much more evidence for before than after (not least a flashback to the one-shot in Episode 1).

Runaways: Season 2 Adjustment and Season 3 Dates (additional)
OK guys, I think I've done the most pressing of the three Runaways: Season 3 things: nailing down the dates.

As far as I can tell, from researching L.A. schools, there is no way that the 2021-2022 academic year would have started earlier than Friday, August 20, 2021, if not even Monday, August 23, 2021.

So, Gert's death should be absolutely no earlier than Monday, August 20, 2021. If it were Monday, August 20, 2021, then Dale's Day 189 line would seemingly be on Friday, August 17, 2021 (you could potentially stretch it to a little earlier, but that's fairly pointless, as I'm about to show), making the end of Season 2 Friday, February 9, 2018, meaning stretching Season 2 a further 12 days (already stretched 5 days, so 17 days of stretching in the end).

However, Dale's calendar when he has the Day 189 line aligns with August 2018. It is a 31-day month beginning on a Wednesday. And it has 22 days crossed off, suggesting it's August 23, 2018. With it on August 17, 2021, you're so close you might as well just push it those further 6 days (from 17 days of stretching to 23, then you line up). There's also more of a chance then that it's term time on the anniversary, August 26th. August 20th was very optimistic judging by what I found.

So, it's worth using Dale's calendar, and it nicely aligns with August 2018, so serves as further 2018 evidence. So, the Dale scene is August 23, 2018.

This puts "Day 1" on February 16, 2018.

So, ideally Season 2 should end on February 15, 2018. It's currently dated to January 28, 2018.

Revisiting the Season 2 notes, Day D1 is when Tamar leaves hospital with Xerxes, dated to January 17, 2018. That's already 22 days after Darius said Xerxes was due in 2 weeks. We were OK with it assuming he was rounding down, Xerxes was a little late, and maybe there were minor complications so Tamar stayed a couple of days extra. But we shouldn't be stretching that any later (plus, it goes on to be that everything up to the 25th is unchanged anyway).


 * D1 = Wednesday, January 17th
 * D2 = Thursday, January 18th
 * 87.5%-eliminated gap
 * E1 at least next day, seemingly next day
 * 96.875%-eliminated gap
 * F1 seemingly same day
 * 87.5%-eliminated gap
 * G1=H1 (I made a mistake in the notes, there is no possible gap between G1 and H1), a Tuesday, seemingly same day
 * H2, a Wednesday
 * H3, a Thursday
 * 87.5%-eliminated gap
 * I1 at least next day, seemingly next day
 * 87.5%-eliminated gap
 * J1 seemingly same day
 * 75%-eliminated gap
 * K1 seemingly same day
 * K2
 * 75%-eliminated gap
 * L1 at least next day, seemingly next day = Thursday, February 15th

22 extra days / (0.125 + 0.03125 + 0.125 + 0.125 + 0.125 + 0.25 + 0.25) = 21.33333.


 * D-E: 21.33333 * 0.125 = 3 extra days
 * E-F: 21.33333 * 0.03125 = 1 extra day
 * F-G=H: 21.33333 * 0.125 = 3 extra days
 * G=H-I: 21.33333 * 0.125 = 3 extra days
 * I-J: 21.33333 * 0.125 = 3 extra days
 * J-K: 21.33333 * 0.25 = 5 extra days
 * K-L: 21.33333 * 0.25 = 5 extra days

Due to rounding, that adds to 23 days, and all of them are only rounding 0.33333 so there's none closer to a given number. Round the most-eliminated down, E-F 0 days.


 * D1 = Wednesday, January 17th
 * D2 = Thursday, January 18th
 * 87.5%-eliminated gap
 * E1 next day + about 3 days, roughly Monday, January 22nd
 * 96.875%-eliminated gap
 * F1 same day + about 0 days, roughly Monday, January 22nd
 * 87.5%-eliminated gap
 * G1=H1, a Tuesday, same day + about 3 days, roughly Thursday, January 25th
 * H2, a Wednesday, roughly Friday, January 26th
 * H3, a Thursday, roughly Friday, January 26th
 * 87.5%-eliminated gap
 * I1, next day + about 3 days, roughly Wednesday, January 31st
 * 87.5%-eliminated gap
 * J1, same day + about 3 days, roughly Saturday, February 3rd
 * 75%-eliminated gap
 * K1, same day + about 5 days, roughly Thursday, February 8th
 * K2, roughly Friday, February 9th
 * 75%-eliminated gap
 * L1, next day + about 5 days, roughly Thursday, February 15th

So, the closest Tuesday for G1=H1 is still Tuesday, January 23rd. So even if you were willing to stretch the Xerxes stuff even further, you still likely would end up with the closest Tuesday being Tuesday, January 23rd.

So:
 * D2 = Thursday, January 18th
 * 87.5%-eliminated gap
 * E1 at least next day, seemingly next day
 * 96.875%-eliminated gap
 * F1 seemingly same day
 * 87.5%-eliminated gap
 * G1=H1 = Tuesday, January 23rd

4 extra days / (0.125 + 0.03125 + 0.125) = 14.22222.


 * D-E: 14.22222 * 0.125 = 2 extra days
 * E-F: 14.22222 * 0.03125 = 0 extra days
 * F-G=H: 14.22222 * 0.125 = 2 extra days

So:
 * D2 = Thursday, January 18th
 * 87.5%-eliminated gap
 * E1 next day + 2 days, Sunday, January 21st
 * 96.875%-eliminated gap
 * F1 same day + 0 days, Sunday, January 21st
 * 87.5%-eliminated gap
 * G1=H1, Tuesday, January 23rd

Then:
 * H3 = Thursday, January 25th
 * 87.5%-eliminated gap
 * I1 at least next day, seemingly next day
 * 87.5%-eliminated gap
 * J1 seemingly same day
 * 75%-eliminated gap
 * K1 seemingly same day
 * K2
 * 75%-eliminated gap
 * L1 at least next day, seemingly next day = Thursday, February 15th

18 extra days / (0.125 + 0.125 + 0.25 + 0.25) = 24.


 * G=H-I: 24 * 0.125 = 3 extra days
 * I-J: 24 * 0.125 = 3 extra days
 * J-K: 24 * 0.25 = 6 extra days
 * K-L: 24 * 0.25 = 6 extra days

So:
 * H3 = Thursday, January 25th
 * 87.5%-eliminated gap
 * I1 next day + 3 days, Monday, January 29th
 * 87.5%-eliminated gap
 * J1 same day + 3 days, Thursday, February 1st
 * 75%-eliminated gap
 * K1 same day + 6 days, Wednesday, February 7th
 * K2, Thursday, February 8th
 * 75%-eliminated gap
 * L1 next day + 6 days = Thursday, February 15th

So, the results for Season 2: The results for Season 3:
 * D1 = Wednesday, January 17th, unchanged
 * D2 = Thursday, January 18th, unchanged
 * E1 = Sunday, January 21st, unchanged
 * F1 = Sunday, January 21st, unchanged
 * G1=H1 = Tuesday, January 23rd, unchanged
 * H2 = Wednesday, January 24th, unchanged
 * H3 = Thursday, January 25th, unchanged
 * I1 = 26th → Monday, January 29th
 * J1 = 26th → Thursday, February 1st
 * K1 = 26th → Wednesday, February 7th
 * K2 = 27th → Thursday, February 8th
 * L1 = 28th → Thursday, February 15th
 * 3,1 opening scene is Thursday, February 15th/Friday, February 16th/Saturday, February 17th.
 * 3,1 = Saturday, February 17th
 * 3,2 = Saturday, February 17th-Sunday, February 18th
 * 3,3 = Sunday, February 18th-Monday, February 19th
 * 3,4 = Monday, February 19th
 * 3,5 = Monday, February 19th-Wednesday, August 22nd
 * 3,6 = Thursday, August 23rd
 * 3,7 = Thursday, August 23rd-Friday, August 24th
 * 3,8 = Friday, August 24th-Saturday, August 25th
 * 3,9 = Saturday, August 25th-Sunday August 26th
 * 3,10 = June 14, 2028 → August 26, 2021 → December 6, 2017 → August 26, 2018

It involves a lot of weird gaps in Season 2, but there's already several weird gaps in Season 2, so I don't really care. It also fits better with things like the comments about how they've been on the run for months (from their perspective, so not including the 6 months in the Dark Dimension).

If no one has any objections, I'll go ahead with this.