Talk:Grant Ward

Image
There has been a disagreement about the profile image for Ward. Some users feel that a promotional image should be used even if it doesn't reflect a character's current look. Others believe it should be changed. This is the current image (on the right): This is the image that it would be changed to (on the left): As you can see, there have been multiple changes to Ward's appearance that reflect changes in his storyline and character. Please vote on whether the new image should be used. (This vote will also be used to avoid arguments over similar situations in the future as stated ) Voters must have an account. Coluanprime (talk) 05:06, December 25, 2014 (UTC)


 * Only those who have joined the MCU Wiki before voting began are allowed to vote.--UskokHail HYDRA! 12:38, December 25, 2014 (UTC)

For changing the picture to reflect character's current appearance

 * 1) Coluanprime (talk) 05:06, December 25, 2014 (UTC)
 * 2) Nciszdabest
 * 3)  JMAS  Talk to me. 06:45, December 25, 2014 (UTC)
 * 4) Dr.Who1997HAIL HYDRA! (◣‿◢) 08:34, December 25, 2014 (UTC)
 * 5) Erisiel (talk) 12:17, December 25, 2014 (UTC)
 * 6) ~Silverstream (talk) 15:16, December 25, 2014 (UTC)Silverstream

Against changing the picture to reflect character's current appearance

 * 1) Bratpack (talk) 05:19, December 25, 2014 (UTC)
 * 2) KylieMfever (talk) 11:36, December 25, 2014 (UTC)
 * 3) TomasDerksen (talk) 12:58, December 25, 2014 (UTC)
 * 4) DinoSlider (talk) 17:43, December 25, 2014 (UTC)

Comments
The issue is not whether that latest appearance should be recognized or not; the issue is that AoS is the latest feature of the MCU, so a standard recognizable image needs to be consistently maintained until a new feature is established. I care about consistency.

P.S. why is changing Grant Ward so important? Why not Skye, Jemma, Zabo? I think that this vote is for the satisfaction of Ward fans, not the wiki as a whole. The proceeding is my opinion and reflects my feelings and doesn't reflect administration, who each individually have their own opinions...Bratpack (talk) 05:27, December 25, 2014 (UTC)
 * The main image should reflect the most current way the character appears in-universe. With Skye, Simmons or Zabo, their current appearance in the promotional shots does not differ from the way they look in screenshots, so either image works. Ward now looks significantly different, ever since he shaved and trimmed his hair. Consistency should be in showing the most recent appearance of the character, not "if one character has a promotional shot in the infobox, then all of them should." -  JMAS  Talk to me. 06:52, December 25, 2014 (UTC)

As as soon as we change one of the images for AoS, I will change them all, to keep consistent. BUt then, I geuss, people would cry. But I, just like Brat, care about consistency. And just like Bratpack I think this voting has nothing to do with consitency, but with Ward Fans, who dont see the whole picture.TomasDerksen (talk) 12:59, December 25, 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, this wiki has always used a high quality screenshot of the character's latest/current appearance in the last media he had been portrayed, using promotional images only in case that appearance is the same in both, exactly just what JMAS has said. That's the reason why Nick Fury's promotional image from Captain America: The Winter Soldier was changed as Fury changed his appearance at the end of the movie, and that's why changed Carter's image to Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. images and Agent Carter now, instead of the character's appearance as an old woman she had in 2014. You should have respected those standards that were active before you joined the wiki, instead of threatening that you would change every image just because you're upset because you're losing the vote... Shabook (talk) 16:25, December 25, 2014 (UTC)


 * haha, I'm not sad about losing a vote, I'm just looking at the whole picture, the whole wiki, instead of this one page. And i'm looking at consistence. That is not the same as "losing a vote". And the appereance between the promotional and the currect Ward is almost the same, there is no major appereance change, so thats not en excuse that couldbe used: "He had a major change in appeance". because he had not.TomasDerksen (talk) 16:36, December 25, 2014 (UTC)


 * We don't need to change the rest of the character's images because they all still look the same. Ward has shaved his beard and given himself a haircut. If Coulson went bald, we would change the picture too. We don't have too though because he still looks the same. You seem to think that this vote is about promotional vs screenshot which it is not. It is about having an image that show's the characters appearance. By your standards, because we changed Nick Fury's image we needed to have changed everyone else who had a CATWS promo picture as their image to a screenshot.
 * Coluanprime (talk) 17:43, December 25, 2014 (UTC)


 * Indeed, we should have indeed. Look at the picute of the doctor, has hasn't shaved and his hair is wild on the promo, It isn't in the last episodes. So according to your standard we should change it. But why haven;t we heard anyone about that oen, but we do about Ward? Because people care about ward and dont lookto others.
 * This ward and the promo-ward also still look the same. No MAJOR appereance change has occured.TomasDerksen (talk) 18:02, December 25, 2014 (UTC)


 * At this point I'm pretty sure you are face-blind or something because I can't understand your arguements.
 * Coluanprime (talk) 18:27, December 25, 2014 (UTC)