Thread:Marvelous 345678/@comment-27496405-20180723185324/@comment-26838855-20180913014129

DIrishB (Marvelous 345678, CirUmeUela)
Marvelous 345678 wrote: I didn't expect to hear that. I have been out of everything because I need to focus my life. I am putting everything aside until I can deserve to have so fun. My life has been a mess the last few months. I have been irresponsible and that has come to bite me in the *ss. I have decided some hard things to do like erasing all social media and I have just decided to come here to see how is everything going on and that just slapped me into my face. I am in a state of shock. It took me 20 minutes to be able to write something. I am 18 years old. I know what is death, but you never expect to come as soon as it happened to DIrishB... That is sad. I am so depressed. I only can pray for him and to be in good hands. I am sure he is. It is a shame he didn't achieve to see the Marvel movies he wished for. I might not agree with him in plenty of things but I will try to mourn him on my own.

About his timeline, I think it is not something to talk about it now. And maybe never. It is just a timeline for fiction and it was HIS work. I will suggest to not change it. Maybe not expanding it. Abd not move thins around. It has to be preserved. I will suggest not to change it.

Now... I don't know you by name. I only know Elledy92 and I am very sure that you may know my name. This last three years I have been cooperatinf in here and met all of you. And even if I don't know you, you are a part of my life and I am so greatful to have known you. You may say I am exagerating but I am not. We have a bond thanks to the MCU and timeline co workers and if I know you by name and we live on the same street I would invite you to take a drink. All of you take care. And that his passing has to be taken as a lesson that life can be short sometimes and even unfair. So live every day as your last with every piece of your hearth. That is my wish for you all. We will keep in touch my good friends. Blessings!! Take care of yourself Marvelous - and indeed all of you. I don't just mean that because of the later part of your message, but also what you said early on about focusing on your life. We all have difficulties of all types and sorts (I've got plenty), and it's always important that we take the time to look after ourselves. Don't stress too much over less important things like the wiki. Take time for yourself. Prioritise, clear your mind, stay well.

Sorry the news hit you like that, but I thought it was worth letting people know.

What's happening with the TCB timeline is they are preserving his work as it was when he died and have started a follow-up thread. It will aim to keep his work mostly as is unless new evidence comes along that pretty clearly overrules it - that DIrishB himself would likely have changed as well. The details of the process were discussed in my message and a previous one at the end of the old thread, and people seem to be in agreement.

Thank you for your message wishing us all well and hoping we live good lives, the same sentiment is absolutely returned to you. The suddenness of this death is indeed a bit scary, and it's a good life motto to live every day as your last.

CirUmeUela wrote: And that is truly sad news about DIrishB. That's way too young. May he rest in peace and his family and friends be comforted at this difficult time.

Also Marvelous 345678, for sure dude! Pretty much all of my MCU friends are online, lol. Marvelous 345678 wrote: CirUmeUela, the same for me xD Well said, CirUmeUela.

I am fortunate enough to actually have friends I can talk to in real life about the MCU. But nonetheless, that doesn't negate the fact that I consider you all friends and hope you are doing well.

Deleted Scenes List (CirUmeUela)
CirUmeUela wrote: BETJ, yes, I've tried all that with the box set deleted scenes. I probably spent too much time looking for them, lol. I found most of them through articles I think, but a few remain unverified. This wiki has a list of deleted scenes, but there are no sources and it is not said if they are on the original blu ray or only on the box sets. Also some of the "deleted" scenes that they listed were never filmed in the first place, they are just concepts that got dropped before filming began. But I am taking all the deleted scenes listed on this wiki and marking them off as I either verify them as avalable on some blu ray or as never being filmed in the first place. Yeah, that's annoying. I've always felt like the deleted scenes page is a bit unstructured. Sorry, I'm not sure what I can do to help at the moment, but if I come across something I'll be sure to let you know.

Sokovia Reference (Marvelous 345678)
Marvelous 345678 wrote: Sokovia gets mentioned in episode 7. Finally other MCU reference rather than the Incident. Ah nice. Along with the Raft in Jessica Jones: Season 2, I'm glad they're acknowledging films other than just The Avengers. Because, as I've said before, I feel like up until this year they've been acting almost like they're in a different timeline from the films that branched off at The Avengers (obviously they didn't, but it kind of felt like that). So them sort of touching base with the later films a bit in 2018 has been kind of nice.

Thegoon4eto wrote: That's ultra nice!! :) Marvelous 345678 wrote: Just the country, not the Battle lf Sokovia that happened there. Oh, that's a little odd. It's seemed like in the MCU, if someone referred to "Sokovia" it was pretty much always a synonym for "the incident in Sokovia". I'm still on Episode 3 (I've done Episodes 1-3 and rewatched 1 and 2 to take notes) so haven't got there yet.

Iron Fist: Season 2 Placement (Marvelous 345678, Mrmichaelt, Bussterj)
Marvelous 345678 wrote: Iron Fist Second Two is definitely around November 2017. You think? It seems later than that, like deeper winter. There's grit on the floor in case of ice, and they're wearing woollen hats and other winter clothes. Plus, in Episode 1, when Colleen is helping a girl called Lana, she offers to give them "winter clothing".

Marvelous 345678 wrote: In episode 9, there is a Spring Festival. At least, that is what it's been said. It says "Spring Fair...". Unless something changes, we are on early 2018. Which would suggest that Infinity War takes place a bit after March 2018. But you BEJT has the shots. I don't think we need to move Infinity War (not yet, at least - not because of this, especially since this seems to be pre-Infinity War anyway). As much as Jeph Loeb's comments do tell us that this stuff takes place before Infinity War (which I appreciate because it's made more people aware that the Netflix series are taking place a bit in the past), it's sort of the only answer he can give. He can't say, for example, "But some of them are actually set after, just the snap has been reversed so everything's good" or whatever the plot of Avengers 4 is (he might not even know properly). It's also not so much an indication of the exact dates that the seasons are taking place, but rather a relative idea of "Yeah it's before" and not "It takes place in March 2018 whereas Infinity War takes place in June 2018). So I think if a couple of them actually take place later than Infinity War, we can let that slide. Hopefully, though, that won't happen for as long as possible (I'm sure it will happen by The Punisher: Season 2), so we don't have to wait long to make sure it works. As long as the majority of these seasons take place before Infinity War, we're pretty much fine.

Mrmichaelt wrote: Was this spring fair in Chinatown? If so, that's another name they use for Lunar New Year. So for example, this year, I think NYC's had various celebrations from late January, every weekend in February, and even in April. San Francisco definitely used a similar term this year on February 24. Interesting, thank you. If it is Chinese New Year, that's funny, that makes it exactly 2 years on from Season 1. But also, that would be helpful because it gives a more precise placement (I was starting to worry a little bit after the first 3 episodes that it might be very difficult to place because there was very little specific evidence), and is also a bit earlier in the year, meaning hopefully at least Daredevil: Season 3 can slip in before late March.

Marvelous 345678 wrote: Yes! The Spring Fair in Chinatown. Marvelous 345678 wrote: Across episode 9 there are mentions of Spring Fair. Spring Festival and I saw that name on a truck so it might have something to do with the company or something to do with a celebration. But I think we are not in 2017 as we thought but 2018. However, BEJT will sort everything out. Or we may have to wait for Daredevil Season 3 to get it clearer. Sounds like it is early 2018 then, around the middle of the time of filming, as tends to be the case with Netflix. Well, if that's the case, so be it. That works well enough. It's admittedly a bit close to Infinity War, but in the long run, it shouldn't cause too many issues.

I think in Episode 2 when Joy gets Davos to sleep with Kim, she films it with her tablet and it might have a date in the corner. But it's very hard to tell, and if it contradicts this February date, it shouldn't be too hard to discard.

Mrmichaelt wrote: Indeed. My first impression was February 2018 to keep it pre-Snap but that's taking it to the verge... but as you said we'll see where Daredevil season 3 is in the timeline. Yeah, well, like I've said, I don't think it's too big a deal. If it's February 2018, it's February 2018, and yeah, especially now where we don't know what will happen with Daredevil anyway. Could even be set overlapping with Iron Fist: Season 2 considering they were filmed at almost exactly the same time (the middle of filming for Daredevil: Season 3 was actually earlier than the middle of filming for Iron Fist: Season 2), or at least could be set very close.

Marvelous 345678 wrote: Apparently, I am reading in the Comic Board forum that when Colleen Wing says in episode 1 that Rand entered on a nightclub the other night was a direct reference to Luke Cage Season 2 Episode 10. The ending of LC2 is also adressed by Misty Knight in episode 10 making it sound as it has not been too long since it. I may have spotted a date on Episode 2. Let me check it out. I haven't replied to them yet, and I'm avoiding the thread until I'm ready to reply because otherwise I'll get stressed with them, having things to say but not the time to say them.

But I'm fairly sure it's not a Luke Cage reference. It was a drug factory he broke into, not a nightclub. I just took that as a reference to another place he took down in his protection of the city. September 2017 is also too early with the clear winter setting, and it sounds like there's evidence placing it in February 2018 anyway. And there might be some clash with Mr. Yang's character as well if they're simultaneous.

When you say you may have spotted a date in Episode 2, are you referring to Joy's tablet date in the Davos/Kim scene, that I've just mentioned?

Mrmichaelt wrote: True. Yeah, Misty's still thinking about the captain offer, right? Another unfortunate possibility with this 'spring festival' might have been them not keeping track of overall continuity or they neglected to change the live set (and incorporated spring festival into the episode) since it was filmed all the way up to May 2018, they probably filmed during Lunar New Year... I haven't got to Misty arriving in the show yet, but it's admittedly a little odd if she's still considering the offer 5 months later. But if it's February, it's February, it's not a big problem.

But yeah, I don't think there's a continuity error with Luke Cage, I just think it's not a Luke Cage reference.

Marvelous 345678 wrote: I haven't managed to find that date that was almost visible on Colleen's laptop. When BEJT does his notes I will try to rewatch the scene to discover it. But Early 2018 may be the definite date and also maybe Daredevil Season 3 and The Punisher Season 2 happen in close proximity to each other taking place all of them around early 2018 before the Snap. Which is a possibility tho.

I think we might have a Daredevil Season 2 situation with being "summer" and then Christmas... Something does not match up you know? However, I thinl the Spring Fair might not be the celebration but the name of a campaign as you can see it in several trucks. Maybe they are a campaign promoting Spring Fair or who knows. Oh right, it's a potential date on Colleen's laptop? When's that roughly? I didn't notice that.

I think there's a good chance Daredevil: Season 3 takes place before late March 2018, but it's unlikely The Punisher: Season 2 will. But when that season comes out, we'll only have about 2 months to wait and see if it works as post-Infinity War (or indeed if more evidence is added to move Infinity War). I think letting one season slip through isn't the end of the world.

I'm about to start posting my notes, they're mostly done for Episodes 1 and 2. And yeah, I'll see what happens with the Spring Fair stuff, but it sounds like we're looking at February. Wow, this'll be the first time since Jessica Jones: Season 1 that a Netflix season is actually set the same year it came out.

Marvelous 345678 wrote: Iron Fost Season 2 is confirmed to be after November 3, 2017. Rand uses IPhone X on Episode 1. That IPhone was released on November 3rd 2017

So yes... We are after November 3, 2017. So the season might take place between November 2017-February 2018. Good spot, thanks! I didn't think of that.

Marvelous 345678 wrote: Seems like a 2018 date for me, at least, it does not look like a 2017 date. Ah there's the tablet date! Hmmm, yeah, hard to tell exactly but I agree it looks slightly more like 8 than 7.

Marvelous 345678 wrote: Information related to the Spring Fair:
 * In episode 9, the friend of Colleen Wing says: "They... It's the Spring Fair planning committe".
 * Then we see this picture.
 * I found this for the UK... Spring Fair is held always on February.
 * Season Two filming finished on May 9th 2018. According to an Instagram post made by Finn Jones, however, the post was deleted. Source (in spanish) Source 2
 * In episode 9, it appears the first mention to such Spring Fair. The episode is called War Without End. Stan Lee has the cameo for Netflix as Irving Forbush and the episode was filmed on April 21, 2018, Source (in spanish)
 * The scene of episode 6, involving Rand and Typhoid Mary was filmed in March 10, 2018-- Source
 * So episode 9 and 10 were definitely shot by Spring Time, thus the mention to Spring Fair.

What can we do

 * The only thing that seemed to collide with the event seen in Season Two episode 9 and 10 is this: Guangzhou's 2018 Spring Festival Flower Fair. It is celebrrated on China and in 2018 was held from February 13th to March 3rd.
 * Earliest possible date for episode 9-10: February 13th 2018
 * Latest possible dare for episode 9-10: March 3rd 2018 which fits with the metereological season calendar that puts Spring on March 1st.
 * According the metereological seasons calendar, Spring begins on March 1st in the northern west. We know Winter happens from December to February (and we are told that it is Winter by Colleen Wing in The Fury of Iron Fist) and Spring begins on March. So it works, except by the fact that Avengers: Infinity War must be moved a little bit more to May or June as Ant-Man and the Wasp suggested, something that I will agree to it.
 * BUT, @Mrmichaelt said that the Spring Fair is another name given to the Lunar New Year confirmed here:
 * It was celebrated on February 16th, 2018. Still Winter for the USA but known as Spring Fair by China's culture.
 * According this, there is a Spring Festival 2018 held on February 5th... "The original name for this day was Yuán Dàn (元旦), with Yuan meaning “the beginning.” However, Yuan Dan is now used to refer to the New Year of the solar calendar."

Resolution
We have TWO DATES to pick up to place episode 9 and 10:
 * February 5th, 2018
 * February 16th, 2018 (Lunar New Year)

I will suggest February 5th as it fits with the Celebration as it does not appear to be a Lunar New Year. And it is Winter but for China's culture it is referred to as Spring Fair Festival. Marvelous 345678 wrote: Overall, Iron Fist Season Two takes place from January to February 2018. Thank you for that research! That's so thorough and helpful. I'll see how I feel about it when I get to the episodes to chip in myself on which dates, but either way, it's February then, so that's good.

Mrmichaelt wrote: Excellent work! So there is a bit of a gap between LCS2 and IFS2. Plus, that gives some room for Daredevil S3 and Punisher S2 to take place in February 2018. I think Daredevil might be February-March and then The Punisher later in spring, like April-May. But yeah, as I've been saying, that's not too much of a problem. Infinity War might be moved by other evidence anyway, and letting one season be after Infinity War is doable.

Marvelous 345678 wrote: Thanks! I hope it works, but I really hope to take on the February 5th date, it works better and allows a few more days for Daredevil Season 3 and The Punisher Season 2 to get a room from February to March 2018. But it seems like eventually, Avengers: Infinity War will have to get moved later, between May-June. Expecting BEJT's judgment anyway. So the season would begin on mid-January 2018 and end on February 5th. Plus, I was checking the filming schedule from DDS3 and TPS2 and the former was filmed very close to Iron Fist Season 2 filming, it began before it, from November 2017 to June 2018, so we will have the feeling of Winter moving to Spring, which works with Iron Fist S2, The Punisher S2 filmed from March to August so it will have a weather more warm than Season 3 which supports a full Spring placement. Knowing that the Netflix Shows will follow their own timeline but also are before Infinity War, this means that Infinity War will have to be moved later, a lot later. Again, I wouldn't worry too much about The Punisher: Season 2. Everything's a bit in flux. Infinity War might move, and it's also just possible that The Punisher: Season 2 takes place after Infinity War.

And I've already looked up the filming schedules for my Predicting Marvel Netflix Release Dates blog, you should have just checked there😉! As I found in my research, the middle of filming for Iron Fist: Season 2 was February 21.5, 2018, the middle of filming for Daredevil: Season 3 was February 14, 2018, and the middle of filming for The Punisher: Season 2 was May 20, 2018. And yeah, I do reckon The Punisher: Season 2 will take place around April-May. But I predicted that a while ago and I just don't think it's a massive problem.

Marvelous 345678 wrote: The date is 1/2/2018 according a guy from TCB. Interesting, if we can get a HD screencap or something then that might be helpful. Maybe January 2, 2018 works and we can slip a gap in somewhere (I don't know yet, since I'm only 3 episodes in), or maybe at a push we can assume Joy has her settings on for the way most other countries do dates, DD/MM/YYYY, and it is February 1, 2018, with the Spring Fair being mid-February. I'll see how it all works as I construct my notes.

Mrmichaelt wrote: That works. So far. Bussterj wrote: Yeah, that's what I'm seeing!

Marvelous 345678 wrote: Perfect!! Hey @Bussterj, it is awesome what you did in capturing that date, could you please (if u can) to look at episode 13 of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. season 5 and look at the monitor close to Yo-yo's bed? I am very sure I can see a 2018 date but I can manage to discover it, maybe you could do it. Only if you want of course. Thank you so much! Thank you so much! Your screencaps are so helpful!

Misty's Time Off Breakdown (Marvelous 345678, Edward Zachary Sunrose)
Marvelous 345678 wrote: I've got an idea. Such as we did to explain entirely the amount of time that passed between Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Season Three to Foyr and Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Slingshot Web Series explaining all the things that happened in Coulson's team. Can't we do the same thing for Misty Knight's storyline?

As I wrote the article for Blog de Superheroes several weeks ago I rewatched The Defenders and realized something. When Colleen Wing visitis Misty Knight in the hospital she says that Danny Rand and her will do everything they can to give her help. However, they never talk about giving her an arm.

Knight gets her arm cut during mid May 2016. The smae thing may have happened with Yo-Yo so Misty Knight would be full on her feet by late July 2016. Trying to live with it she takes off from her work as a detective for the Police Department and returns to it around October 2016.

In September 2016 she is still working struggling with it. Apparently (I have yet to see Cloak and Dagger so the proper references can be made) O'Reily still in Harlem. However, she gets moved to New Orleans by late 2016. The events of Cloak and Dagger take place in February-march 2017.

In early 2017 (January-february) Misty realizes she needs help with therapy and she starts to have some with Claire Temple as seen in Luke Cage Season 2 around August 2017. She knows that she cannot do it alone. By this time, O'Reily doesn't know that Misty Knight has quit. Rand comes up with the idea of a prothestic arm but in order to be as comfortable as it can without not presenting problems never, Rand Enterprises begins to construct one for the next 6 months in order to fit and in order to never cause problems (not like the one with Yo-Yo that cause her problems due to it being made only during two months).

In August 2017, Misty Knight decided to take her job back after taking leniency since the beginning of the year.


 * --> May 2016: Misty Knight's arm gets cut.
 * --> July/August 2016: Knight recovers.
 * --> September-October 2016: Knight is still in leniency. She drops out of therapy as she wants to do it alone. Which fits with the character.
 * --> October 2016: Returns as a detective. O'Reilly gets moved to New Orleans.
 * --> January 2017: Knight quits from her job as she has decided that she has several problems. O'Reilly never finds out about this.
 * --> February/March 2017: Cloak and Dagger events. Tony Stark and Danny Rand gets mentioned. This helps a lot since this would mean that Iron Fist Season 2 takes place after CaDS1. You will know why when you finish the season. I haven't but I have received knowledge that wpuld contradict Cloak and Dagger's line.
 * --> April/May 2017: Misty Knight has been starting her therapy with Claire Temple but she doesn't give it too much of attention. Colleen Wing and Danny Rand has started to look for her prothestic arm around March 2017.
 * --> August 2017: Knight starts to get depressed. She receives her arm.
 * --> September 2017: Main events of Luke Cage Season 2. Mid-september: Priscilla Ridley gave her intel that she might get a role of captain.
 * --> October 2017: Misty Knight gets offered the role of captain. She decides to think about it and takes a few days off. As mentioned in Iron Fist Season 2.
 * --> October/November 2017: Iron Fist Season 2 main events take place.

I am on episode 6. Haven't finished the season. The thing is, with the Daisy stuff between Seasons 3 and 4, we had an actual map of events and evidence for points at which events happened, so we could just place those things. This is more general speculation and guesswork. But maybe some of it can be used.

I'm not sure you've understood the O'Reilly reference quite right. The idea is that O'Reilly presumably knew Misty had gone back to work in August 2017, but when she decided to tell Ridenhour she was quitting properly, no one got around to alerting O'Reilly to Misty having quit before Ridenhour then died and she had to come back. So it was easier for her to come back because the senior officers hadn't yet been told she'd quit anyway, one of whom was O'Reilly.

Also, O'Reilly moving to New Orleans is likely January/February 2017, because Emma Lahana said Cloak & Dagger is O'Reilly's first case in New Orleans.

Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote: Didn't Emma Lahana or Joe Pokaski say on Nerdist After that Tandy's case is O'Reilly's first one in New Orleans? It wouldn't make much sense for O'Reilly to move down there for a job in October and not start working until February. Yeah exactly, it was Emma Lahana.

This is actually a good chance to mention O'Reilly. When we were discussing it before, it was before the Cloak & Dagger finale. But (SPOILERS FOR CLOAK & DAGGER), O'Reilly was seemingly killed, and came back as Mayhem. So I'm wondering if the world will classify O'Reilly as deceased, or if she'll just pretend she never died and pretend to be exactly the same woman she was before. Because if O'Reilly is legally dead after the Cloak & Dagger finale, then Luke Cage: Season 2 can't be taking place 6 months later with them saying O'Reilly is in New Orleans.

If it's the case that she's legally dead, it would mean that Cloak & Dagger: Season 1 would have to be 2018, and Lahana's comment is fudged because O'Reilly has actually been in New Orleans for 6 months in Cloak & Dagger. Because Luke Cage: Season 2 would have to be before Cloak & Dagger: Season 1.

Let's just hope for now that it works out fine and O'Reilly is considered a (supposedly) living and normal woman working at the precinct in August 2017.

Marvelous 345678 wrote: Great! Thanks for the info. That supports my idea for Misty Knight storyline across May 2016 to August 2017. Only to make those few changws but still work. That means that Misty Knight was still working before February 2017, thus putting Defenders before that date. Yeah, well it was considered the other way around when we were weighing up the evidence - that Cloak & Dagger should be after May 2016 (rather than "The Defenders should be before February 2017). But technically yes, it works both ways. It's just The Defenders is more firmly placed with less contradiction and leeway than Cloak & Dagger.

Luke Cage: Season 2 (Marvelous 345678, additional stuff from me)
Marvelous 345678 wrote: Luke Cage Season 2 confirmed to be taking place before Infinity War Nice, extra explicit confirmation specifically about Luke Cage: Season 2. That adds to the evidence for it being 2017 and not 2018.

If you guys didn't see, I completed the Luke Cage: Season 2 notes a few days ago, and all the dates are assigned. And I did an updated breakdown of all the evidence, including some new things I noticed: BEJT wrote: It's finally all done!

And here's the updated breakdown of all the evidence:

Evidence for 2016

 * Claire's still studying Misty's arm and Misty's not used to it, suggesting it's not long since Marvel's The Defenders: Season 1.
 * Not much has happened with Mariah and Shades since Season 1, suggesting it hasn't been too long.
 * Mariah speaks like she hasn't seen Luke since he got out of prison, suggesting it's not been long since Marvel's The Defenders: Season 1.
 * Misty is still trying to wrap her head around losing her arm, again suggesting not long since Marvel's The Defenders: Season 1.
 * Shades' car has a "1 18" registration. If this is a 1-year registration, this means it is between January 2017 and January 2018. It's possible that it's a 2-year registration, which would mean it is between January 2016 and January 2018.
 * Foggy says the Destiny's Child bar mitzvah was "a decade ago". It was May 2005, but since this is only 2016, 2017, or 2018, he must be rounding. Still, it would suggest more like 2016 or 2017 than 2018.
 * Jeph Loeb has said on 2 occasions that the seasons of TV released between Avengers: Infinity War and Avengers 4 are set before Avengers: Infinity War, and has explicitly said Luke Cage: Season 2 is set before Avengers: Infinity War. The latest Avengers: Infinity War can take place is June 2018, meaning this season is not 2018, as it would be a few months after Avengers: Infinity War.

Evidence That Doesn't Contradict 2016 but Doesn't Support It That Much

 * Luke thinks Sugar might have had a prison stint since he last saw him. While it turns out he hasn't, the fact that Luke thinks he could have suggests it's been some time since Season 1.

Evidence Against 2016

 * SC6 is on that night, and the show started on February 6, 2017. It also ended February 2, 2018, although that was likely something that couldn't have been predicted during filming, so it's not necessarily the intention that this evidence would place it before February 2, 2018. Still, ideally, it would fall between those dates, and it should be after February 6, 2017.
 * "Alternative facts" are referenced, which became a thing on January 22, 2017, placing this after then.
 * Bad and Boujee is referenced, and it was released October 28, 2016, suggesting we're after that.
 * Amanda Nunes vs. Ronda Rousey has happened, making this later than December 31, 2016.
 * Misty's car has a "9 18" sticker. If it's a 1-year sticker, that would make it between September 2017 and September 2018. It could be a 2-year sticker, which would make it between September 2016 and September 2018.
 * Luke has The Force by Don Winslow, which was only released on June 20, 2017. This would suggest it is after that date.
 * "Next Statement Sept 1, 2018". Statements are usually monthly, suggesting it is currently August 2018.
 * This Is Us is already well-known. It started on September 20, 2016, suggesting this scene is after September 20, 2016, and they act like it has a reputation already so realistically it should be at least October 2016.
 * The Yankees are playing a doubleheader 5 days before the West Indian Parade. The only year this happened was 2017, with August 30th.
 * Shades has a "6 20" sticker. It looks different to normal registrations but assuming it is, that would suggest we're between June 2018 and June 2020.
 * The "bend the knee" phrase from Game of Thrones is used. First mentioned in Season 7, Episode 3 on July 30, 2017.
 * "11 18" registration. This would mean that it is between November 2017 and November 2018 if it is a 1-year sticker, if not after November 2016 if it is a 2-year sticker.
 * "3 19" registration. Would mean between March 2018 and March 2019 if 1-year sticker, if not, March 2017 and March 2019 if 2-year sticker.
 * D.W. says, "Personally I haven't felt this weird since November 9th." This implies that November 9, 2016 (the day Trump was announced as the new president-elect) was the last November 9th, making this September 2017. If not, it could be September 2018, but cannot be 2016.
 * Marvel almost never backtrack on any characters' timelines, despite the films jumping around in the timeline. The fact that Thembi, Foggy, and Turk are present, who were all in Jessica Jones: Season 2, should mean that it is set after Jessica Jones: Season 2 in April-June 2017.

Evidence for 2017

 * Luke thinks Sugar might have had a prison stint since he last saw him. While it turns out he hasn't, the fact that Luke thinks he could have suggests it's been some time since Season 1.
 * SC6 is on that night, and the show started on February 6, 2017. It also ended February 2, 2018, although that was likely something that couldn't have been predicted during filming, so it's not necessarily the intention that this evidence would place it before February 2, 2018. Still, ideally, it would fall between those dates, and it should be after February 6, 2017.
 * "Alternative facts" are referenced, which became a thing on January 22, 2017, placing this after then.
 * Bad and Boujee is referenced, and it was released October 28, 2016, suggesting we're after that.
 * Amanda Nunes vs. Ronda Rousey has happened, making this later than December 31, 2016.
 * Misty's car has a "9 18" sticker. If it's a 1-year sticker, that would make it between September 2017 and September 2018. It could be a 2-year sticker, which would make it between September 2016 and September 2018.
 * Shades' car has a "1 18" registration. If this is a 1-year registration, this means it is between January 2017 and January 2018. It's possible that it's a 2-year registration, which would mean it is between January 2016 and January 2018.
 * Luke has The Force by Don Winslow, which was only released on June 20, 2017. This would suggest it is after that date.
 * Foggy says the Destiny's Child bar mitzvah was "a decade ago". It was May 2005, but since this is only 2016, 2017, or 2018, he must be rounding. Still, it would suggest more like 2016 or 2017 than 2018.
 * This Is Us is already well-known. It started on September 20, 2016, suggesting this scene is after September 20, 2016, and they act like it has a reputation already so realistically it should be at least October 2016.
 * The Yankees are playing a doubleheader 5 days before the West Indian Parade. The only year this happened was 2017, with August 30th.
 * The "bend the knee" phrase from Game of Thrones is used. First mentioned in Season 7, Episode 3 on July 30, 2017.
 * "11 18" registration. This would mean that it is between November 2017 and November 2018 if it is a 1-year sticker, if not after November 2016 if it is a 2-year sticker.
 * "3 19" registration. Would mean between March 2018 and March 2019 if 1-year sticker, if not, March 2017 and March 2019 if 2-year sticker.
 * D.W. says, "Personally I haven't felt this weird since November 9th." This implies that November 9, 2016 (the day Trump was announced as the new president-elect) was the last November 9th, making this September 2017. If not, it could be September 2018, but cannot be 2016.
 * Marvel almost never backtrack on any characters' timelines, despite the films jumping around in the timeline. The fact that Thembi, Foggy, and Turk are present, who were all in Jessica Jones: Season 2, should mean that it is set after Jessica Jones: Season 2 in April-June 2017.
 * Jeph Loeb has said on 2 occasions that the seasons of TV released between Avengers: Infinity War and Avengers 4 are set before Avengers: Infinity War, and has explicitly said Luke Cage: Season 2 is set before Avengers: Infinity War. The latest Avengers: Infinity War can take place is June 2018, meaning this season is not 2018, as it would be a few months after Avengers: Infinity War.

Evidence That Doesn't Contradict 2016 but Doesn't Support It That Much

 * Claire's still studying Misty's arm and Misty's not used to it, suggesting it's not long since Marvel's The Defenders: Season 1.
 * Not much has happened with Mariah and Shades since Season 1, suggesting it hasn't been too long.
 * Mariah speaks like she hasn't seen Luke since he got out of prison, suggesting it's not been long since Marvel's The Defenders: Season 1.
 * Misty is still trying to wrap her head around losing her arm, again suggesting not long since Marvel's The Defenders: Season 1.

Evidence Against 2017

 * "Next Statement Sept 1, 2018". Statements are usually monthly, suggesting it is currently August 2018.
 * Shades has a "6 20" sticker. It looks different to normal registrations but assuming it is, that would suggest we're between June 2018 and June 2020.

Evidence for 2018

 * Luke thinks Sugar might have had a prison stint since he last saw him. While it turns out he hasn't, the fact that Luke thinks he could have suggests it's been some time since Season 1.
 * "Alternative facts" are referenced, which became a thing on January 22, 2017, placing this after then.
 * Bad and Boujee is referenced, and it was released October 28, 2016, suggesting we're after that.
 * Amanda Nunes vs. Ronda Rousey has happened, making this later than December 31, 2016.
 * Misty's car has a "9 18" sticker. If it's a 1-year sticker, that would make it between September 2017 and September 2018. It could be a 2-year sticker, which would make it between September 2016 and September 2018.
 * Luke has The Force by Don Winslow, which was only released on June 20, 2017. This would suggest it is after that date.
 * "Next Statement Sept 1, 2018". Statements are usually monthly, suggesting it is currently August 2018.
 * This Is Us is already well-known. It started on September 20, 2016, suggesting this scene is after September 20, 2016, and they act like it has a reputation already so realistically it should be at least October 2016.
 * Shades has a "6 20" sticker. It looks different to normal registrations but assuming it is, that would suggest we're between June 2018 and June 2020.
 * The "bend the knee" phrase from Game of Thrones is used. First mentioned in Season 7, Episode 3 on July 30, 2017.
 * "11 18" registration. This would mean that it is between November 2017 and November 2018 if it is a 1-year sticker, if not after November 2016 if it is a 2-year sticker.
 * "3 19" registration. Would mean between March 2018 and March 2019 if 1-year sticker, if not, March 2017 and March 2019 if 2-year sticker.
 * Marvel almost never backtrack on any characters' timelines, despite the films jumping around in the timeline. The fact that Thembi, Foggy, and Turk are present, who were all in Jessica Jones: Season 2, should mean that it is set after Jessica Jones: Season 2 in April-June 2017.

Evidence That Doesn't Contradict 2018 but Doesn't Support It That Much

 * SC6 is on that night, and the show started on February 6, 2017. It also ended February 2, 2018, although that was likely something that couldn't have been predicted during filming, so it's not necessarily the intention that this evidence would place it before February 2, 2018. Still, ideally, it would fall between those dates, and it should be after February 6, 2017.
 * Foggy says the Destiny's Child bar mitzvah was "a decade ago". It was May 2005, but since this is only 2016, 2017, or 2018, he must be rounding. Still, it would suggest more like 2016 or 2017 than 2018.
 * D.W. says, "Personally I haven't felt this weird since November 9th." This implies that November 9, 2016 (the day Trump was announced as the new president-elect) was the last November 9th, making this September 2017. If not, it could be September 2018, but cannot be 2016.

Evidence Against 2018

 * Claire's still studying Misty's arm and Misty's not used to it, suggesting it's not long since Marvel's The Defenders: Season 1.
 * Not much has happened with Mariah and Shades since Season 1, suggesting it hasn't been too long.
 * Mariah speaks like she hasn't seen Luke since he got out of prison, suggesting it's not been long since Marvel's The Defenders: Season 1.
 * Misty is still trying to wrap her head around losing her arm, again suggesting not long since Marvel's The Defenders: Season 1.
 * Shades' car has a "1 18" registration. If this is a 1-year registration, this means it is between January 2017 and January 2018. It's possible that it's a 2-year registration, which would mean it is between January 2016 and January 2018.
 * The Yankees are playing a doubleheader 5 days before the West Indian Parade. The only year this happened was 2017, with August 30th.
 * Jeph Loeb has said on 2 occasions that the seasons of TV released between Avengers: Infinity War and Avengers 4 are set before Avengers: Infinity War, and has explicitly said Luke Cage: Season 2 is set before Avengers: Infinity War. The latest Avengers: Infinity War can take place is June 2018, meaning this season is not 2018, as it would be a few months after Avengers: Infinity War.

Unknown

 * The Black Enterprise magazine has a "May/June 201?" date but it could be 6 or 8. If it's 2018, that would suggest it's now at least April 2018. Waiting for a HD screencap, at about (14:21 - 1:00) = 13:21 of about (56:10 - 1:00 - 2:10) = 53:00, so should look about 25.2% through the gallery when it comes out. [Needs to be revisited.]
 * The Black Enterprise magazine is shown again, with the May 2016 or 2018 date. Waiting for a HD screencap, at about (39:37 - 1:00) = 38:37 of about (57:35 - 1:00 - 2:10) = 54:25, so should look about 71.0% through the gallery when it comes out. [Needs to be revisited.]
 * Anansi's file has a date of death at the top that I can't quite make out. Waiting for a HD screencap, at about (35:41 - 1:00) = 34:41 of about (62:27 - 1:00 - 2:10) = 59:17, so should look about 58.5% through the gallery when it comes out. [Needs to be revisited.]

It gives 2017 as the best result, I feel.

The Aftermath of the Snap on TV (Mrmichaelt, Edward Zachary Sunrose, Marvelous 345678)
Mrmichaelt wrote: But I guess the lingering question is which show -Netflix, ABC, Hulu- will be the first to be post-Snap. The first show release that will be set post-snap will likely be The Punisher: Season 2 (releasing early next year) or Jessica Jones: Season 3 (releasing mid-next year), depending on when exactly Infinity War ' s final placement is. If any shows are going to address it though (depending on Avengers 4), Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.: Season 6 seems like the most likely candidate.

Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote: Presumably it'll be Agents of SHIELD Season 6, since it almost always takes place in (roughly) real time, and it's premiering after Avengers 4. Yeah, exactly.

Mrmichaelt wrote: True. Good point. And the next Netflix shows after DDS3, PS2, and JJS3 will probably just skip over it. I think we won't be getting any references to Infinity War events in Netflix until a 2020 season. I don't think they're comfortable enough to start referencing the films until they've seen the conclusion properly for themselves in Avengers 4, and because of the time it takes from writing through to release, yeah, wouldn't expect anything for more than a year.

Marvelous 345678 wrote: I think Jessica Jones Season 3 could be the first to show some Infinity War's aftermath. Crossing fingers for non time travel changing things because I would be very disappointed. Jessica Jones Season 3 and Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Season 6 will be the first to get released after Avengers 4, maybe JJ3 surprises us and gets released faster (the season begun filming not long ago, filming began on late June and may end around October), so we might have Season 3 before Infinity War. It is complicated but definitely AoS6 will be the first to adress the aftermath of Avengers 4. I agree that time travel could be disappointing. I'm hoping for something more creative.

I don't think Jessica Jones: Season 3 will be out before Infinity War. And I'm kind of hoping it's not, because these Netflix seasons need to slow down a bit...

But yeah, not so sure about Jessica Jones: Season 3 referencing the events sadly, because I think they're not confident enough and consider it a risk to write into the show before Avengers 4 is out. I think it's the first season where it's possible that they reference something from Infinity War/Avengers 4, but I'm not sure they will, sadly. Maybe at best something referring to the Attack on Greenwich Village.

Daredevil: Season 3 Release Date (Marvelous 345678, Mrmichaelt, Marvelous 345678)
Marvelous 345678 wrote: Daredevil Season Three for October 19th Oh wow! Yeah, after you sent this, I saw the articles about it. Bit of a slip-up on Thailand Netflix's part, but it's good to know when it's coming.

As much as I'm glad it's coming sooner rather than later, I'm not massively pleased with that release date. The gaps between these Marvel Netflix seasons are, frankly, getting way too fast. Not just for us to be able to catch up/keep up, but for general audiences to find them accessible and easy enough to keep following. 6 weeks between seasons is unbelievably fast. (Also, I'm a bit disappointed because my prediction was wrong, but I never could have predicted as little as a 6-week gap between Marvel Netflix seasons... The first gap was 7 months!)

Still, excited for it, even if it's a bit early for my comfort.

Mrmichaelt wrote: Wow, that seems so soon. Is it remotely possibly they were just teasing when the trailer comes out? I don't think so. It does align with the reported date that the review embargo lifts, a bit earlier in October.

Marvelous 345678 wrote: Don't think so. We will have a trailer before that, the cast will be on the NYCC from October 4th-7th and they might make a surprising announcement there. They were going to do the same thing for The Punisher last year but then it happened the Las Vegas shooting so they pospone it. November 2nd and November 16th are already the release dates for other Netflix Shows. October 19th is a huge possibility. Daredevil Season 3 is one of the most expected shows so if they make a big announcement it will sure have people wanting it already. Yeah, I do wonder if it was going to be a big surprise reveal, finishing with, "... And it's out in 2 weeks!" at the panel, which they can't do now.

Mrmichaelt wrote: That's right. Good call. And the Blu-ray/DVD for Ant-Man & The Wasp comes out that week as well. Nice. Need to catch up on buying the DVDs. I wonder if, because of the one month delay for Ant-Man and the Wasp in the U.K., the DVD will be coming out later here as well.