Thread:Marvelous 345678/@comment-27496405-20180723185324/@comment-26838855-20181224210049

Runaways: Season 2 (Edward Zachary Sunrose, Mrmichaelt)
Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote: I was very confused when I heard Alex mention having played Fortnite (I don't remember the episode number), but thankfully a Google search informed me Fortnite was released in 2017, despite it receiving heavy news coverage in 2018. Not really an indicator of when these events happen, but I did just want to share. Keep up the good work, everyone. I saw someone on the discussions section mention that Fortnite is referenced. Yeah, while it really took off this year, the reference presumably works fine (I haven't got to it yet, must be in the last 4 episodes).

Mrmichaelt wrote: Yep, write it off. Just like on Cloak and Dagger season 1 when Tyrone looked at his phone. Yeah, and it's less blatant than that one, it's shown for just a second (although it's not quite as explicitly contradicted as that Cloak & Dagger one, where shortly after it is explicitly Mardi Gras). There's plenty of evidence overruling it.

I wonder how that date came about, because they finished filming in September. Maybe it was a phone programmed with DD/MM/YYYY, so it was July 10th - but also, surely they weren't filming at 1AM.

Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote: Also, this is probably going to end up being so wrong, but I think Runaways Season 2 lasts until March/April of 2018, maybe even as late as May due to something that happens in Episode 5 of Season 1 having... consequences that appear in Episode 11 of Season 2 and are brought back up in Episodes 12 and 13. I don't want to share spoilers for those who aren't caught up. Interesting, OK. Well, as of Episode 9 (where I'm at) I'm pretty sure it's still late January. I'm currently rewatching 5-9 (on Episode 6 rewatch) before proceeding to 10-13.

Could be a bit of a problem with Infinity War if it's quite that late.

Kree (Edward Zachary Sunrose, Mrmichaelt)
Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote: Also, small nitpick, SHIELD obtained the Kree Corpse in the 1940's from HYDRA when they were still the SSR, but we do not know when or where HYDRA found it. They could've had it in their possession as far back as the days of Hive. (Which would imply the Kree decay at a very decelerated rate compared to humans if true.) Yeah true.

Mrmichaelt wrote: Except this HYDRA was the 'science' half led by Red Skull. The role of the 'faith' half of HYDRA that worshiped Hive during WW II is moot, imo. But we know the 'science' half were looking actively for alien artifacts. I figured they stumbled upon some crash site during a dig for something else in Latin America/South America and found the corpse - probably from when the Kree sent a force to shut down the rogue cell conducting the Inhuman experiments and yeah, the rate of decay was very decelerated (kinda like the situation with the Engineers in the Alien prequel movie "Prometheus"). But again, just my thoughts, it's a pity they never got around to directly answering that lingering question of where HYDRA got the corpse. Also true, I reckon they did likely find it in World War II considering what Reinhardt's group were up to. But there is some leeway.

Avengers: Endgame Theories (Mrmichaelt)
Mrmichaelt wrote: Interesting theory. I figured the one winning scenario was Strange and co. delaying Thanos long enough that Ant-Man would have been in the Quantum Realm and Fury was where he was to trigger the super pager to call in Captain Marvel by the time he does the Decimation snap. I saw the theory about it being to do with Ant-Man being in the Quantum Realm at the right time so that he was safe, which I dismissed because the Russos confirmed that the Quantum Realm didn't shield him from the snap, he was just in the safe 50%. But I didn't think about how, despite that, elements of the theory could still be true - it could be important that he get stuck in the Quantum Realm. Also interesting with Fury, depends whether he carried that pager around on him all the time or not.

Mrmichaelt wrote: True and the Russo Brothers just mentioned Endgame might be close to 3 hours. Plenty of time for the threat of the movie to get muddled, imo, but also maybe more time to do the epilogue(s) and drop a big teaser for Phase 4. Unless they're talking about the Avengers having their own Infinity Gauntlet being more dangerous than Thanos with his, lol. I'm still sceptical about 3 hours, I don't think Disney will let it be that long, because the shorter it is, the more money you make (more showings possible per day and fewer people deterred by the run time). And if they can get Infinity War down to 2:29, surely they can get Endgame down to 2:40ish. It can't be that much bigger in scope than Infinity War with half the characters dead for at least the majority of the film, I would think. Maybe I'm completely wrong. I think, maximum, it's 2:45.

I don't have a problem with a long run time, I could watch it for ages, I just don't think we'll be getting a film that long. Still, the 3 hours mentions is encouraging to me in a way because it means that this should hopefully be a very full and well-told story.

Principia (Mrmichaelt, DaenerysTheMadKhal58)
Mrmichaelt wrote: Like I said, the blurred date in "Principia" is inconclusive. It's subjective on my part, at this point, like when you go to the eye doctor or when you stare at an abstract painting in a museum. So it's still up to debate, imo. Yes sorry, wasn't saying you clearly saw it, just that that seemed to be the case, not 2018.

DaenerysTheMadKhal58 wrote: So I have Principia on 1080p here and I took a screenshot of the monitor and did some editing on Photoshop (I should say I'm not good at it), and here are my findings.

I keep seeing different numbers, but the ones I see more consistently are 27-13-2017, which doesn't make sense really, but I'd say it's definitely 2017.

What do you guys think? Thank you so much! That's really helpful. Personally, I see "12-17-2017", I don't know if others see that.

Mrmichaelt wrote: I can see it being 13-2017. I'm on the fence about the month the most. One would assume 12-13-2017. Thanks for taking the initiative to give it a shot on Photoshop. OK you think 13, interesting. I do agree with you though, seeing it for myself, that it's "12-1?-2017", at least.

Marvelus wrote: Thank you very much @DaenerysTheMadKhal58 :D Indeed! Obviously, this date is so blurry that it can easily be thrown out, so if Hale was involved with that "2 years" mention, then it can still be moved to January 2018. So I'll reserve judgement until I've rewatched Principia, but if it's not, then it sounds like 13th or 17th December is a helpful date to exactly place it.

Catching Up (Mrmichaelt, Marvelus)
Mrmichaelt wrote: Don't feel too bad, you'd doing a great job keeping up. Before I found this wiki and it's timeline discussion (and I still do actually), I would transcribe the movies, show episodes, comic issues on sheets of paper then break down timeline stuff on more sheets of paper then add info to my own version of the timeline on a spreedsheet xls file. But I never got around to adding any Netflix shows, Homecoming, Black Panther, Infinity War, Ant-Man and the Wasp, Runaways season 1-2 to the file. Hard to find time to transcribe the movies nowadays. Well, I haven't done a great job. It's been a very important and busy year in my life and I've had to prioritise, but I'm getting back into the swing of things now and I'm genuinely on the right track with the write-ups to catch up a lot in the coming months. I keep track of my progress through my list of write-ups to make sure I'm on the right track and a good trajectory for when I will be caught up, and I'm getting increasingly happier with it.

Wow, transcribing must take ages. You probably know about this site already and it's probably not what you're looking for, but just in case, I thought I'd mention that if you ever want to return to transcribing, there's the site Springfield Springfield which has transcriptions of every MCU film and every episode of every MCU TV show (they transcribe loads of films and shows). They're not particularly formatted, not like a script with character names, it's basically like a copy-and-paste of all the subtitles for each film/episode, just without the errors that some subtitles have. But it could be helpful for you in terms of saving time if you want to copy-and-paste the transcripts and then just go through and format it rather than writing it all out yourself. I find the site very helpful when I am looking for timeline quotes, I do a "find in page" for specific words I remember from the quotes.

Marvelus wrote: @BEJT and @Mrmichaelt I will soon answer to all of you. However two things I wanna say.

@BEJT: As you said, we have like 0 people to help in the writing up. Why don't we stop writing the entire episodes and just putting a great summarize that does not include every single detail to help us move faster. That is a big help. I must say. I'm really bad at brevity. For me to be succinct, I have to write out everything and then go back and edit it down. So actually, with these write-ups, it would take me longer to make it shorter honestly. I do agree it would be better to be briefer/more succinct, but, I know it might sound weird, but I just don't have time to be brief. It's something I try to do whenever I sweep up/comb through articles - cut the writing down. But for now, this is the fastest way I can do this.

I do also feel that whole scenes can't just be omitted, because the purpose of the timeline pages is to show where every scene and referenced event in the MCU takes place, and I personally have found it difficult looking at old work from before our time and trying to find out when a specific scene takes place but not finding anything.

Amy Pascal (Mrmichaelt)
Mrmichaelt wrote: The stuff between Feige and Pascal are better documented - the sandwich story and this one interview where Pascal said something about Venom and the MCU and Feige had this meme-worthy look on his face (and of course, the continuity thing got cleared up real fast). I don't know about the sandwich story😂 but the Venom thing was so weird. It wasn't just that interview, I actually compiled a timeline for someone recently of the weird comments surrounding Venom being in the MCU, and in June 2017, she went back and forth multiple times, saying, "It is," "No, everyone misunderstood me, it isn't," "It is," "No, it isn't, they're just in the same comic-book universe," "It isn't in the MCU but it is in the same world as Spider-Man: Homecoming." She seems not to understand how this stuff works.

But I think they do get along and know each other well, and they have a good working relationship.

February 30th (Marvelus, Edward Zachary Sunrose)
Marvelus wrote: Rewatching Iron Man 3 I noticed there is a February 30th date. Does that confirm that in the MCU there is a February 30 date? Isn't that when Tony throws up stories from the last "6 months" and one of them has a tiny split-second "2.30.2013" date? Which is just incredibly wrong, because even if it were Christmas 2013 and not Christmas 2012, February 2013 shouldn't show up, plus we know it's actually Christmas 2012 anyway, and it's "2.30" which is not a real date. I just threw that out because it's wrong on two other levels already before you even get to the fact that it's "2.30". And...

Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote: Ooh, wouldn't that throw everything off if there is? Because even if 2/30 only happens on leap years like 2/29 in the real world, that would imply 2/29 still happens every year, which would throw off so many dates. ... Yeah, it just throws things way too far off for the sake of a tiny, already twice incorrect detail. There is a lot of evidence that the days of the week in the MCU match the dates the same way they do in the real world, which wouldn't be consistently true if February 29th and 30th existed. As well as this, we have seen several whole months on calendars, such as in Daredevil and Agent Carter and Runaways, and so we know that a good majority of the months at least are the same, and just the fact that fundamentally, this is a very similar world to ours, it would be really weird. Plus that New York Bulletin calendar in The Devil You Know shows 28 days in February, anyway. And I'm sure there's other examples. It just really throws everything off and is a massive leap in assumption for the sake of one already-very-wrong tiny detail.