Thread:BEJT/@comment-44641521-20200209043553/@comment-26838855-20200212220535

OK, so...

Regarding what Enoch says about the attacking ship:
 * Brett3801's point according to Bennyhef234: The Chronicoms were the ones who destroyed Enoch's ship in 2018 because he said in 2019 that it's the same ship coming for them now, and that's the Chronicoms.
 * Bennyhef234: No, Enoch recognises the ship coming as the same ship that attacked him, then becomes suspicious because they're not acting like the Confederacy - it's actually the Chronicoms. And the implication in there is that in a ship like that, it should be the Confederacy, so it was presumably the Confederacy who attacked him before. If it were the Chronicoms in 2018, he wouldn't be surprised in 2019 that it's the Chronicoms, as he encountered them in that ship last year.
 * Bennyhef234: It was the Confederacy in 2018, then it's likely that between that attack and Season 6, the Chronicoms took their ships. Presumably, then, the destruction of Chronyca-2 happened in that window as well. Attack on ship, Chronyca-2, taking the Confederacy ships, Season 6.
 * Brett3801: Enoch recognises the ship but notices they're acting strange and comes to the realisation that it's the Chronicoms and always was.
 * Bennyhef234: He says something's different this time and that makes him realise this time, it's not the Confederacy, meaning 2018 was the Confederacy.
 * Brett3801: Enoch noticed that it was different because they aren't trying to kill them, not because it's the Confederacy.

Why would the Chronicoms attack so violently, though?:
 * Bennyhef234: If it were the Chronicoms attacking in 2018, why would they attack so violently?
 * Bennyhef234: Why would they risk Enoch and Fitz dying? They had nothing against Enoch yet.
 * Brett3801: They did have something against Enoch, for tampering with the universe.
 * Bennyhef234: If the Chronicoms were to attack, they would show as much hostility as they do in Season 6, not this level.
 * Brett3801: They lessened their attack because Enoch was with S.H.I.E.L.D. and they needed S.H.I.E.L.D. for time travel. In 2018, they thought it was just Enoch. Enoch says it's different this time in 2019 specifically because they're not trying to kill.

Why would the Confederacy attack, though?:
 * Brett3801: The Confederacy, though, would have no reason to attack, whereas the Chronicoms do have a reason if you assume it's after the destruction of Chronyca-2, and/or the Chronicoms want Enoch for trial for tampering with the timeline and don't care about Fitz. Plus, we know Atarah doesn't care if he dies even later.
 * Brett3801: Also, if it were the Chronicoms you wouldn't need to address it, it just makes sense. If it were the Confederacy, you would need to, and they didn't.
 * Brett3801: Also, the Confederacy doesn't appear so it would be weird for them to be involved otherwise.

Surmising things about timings from dialogue:
 * Brett3801: Atarah says they spent a year chasing Fitz and Enoch, and it's been about a year since the attack, so that would line up with the implication that it was the Chronicoms.
 * Brett3801: Fitz mentions the Kree, and Simmons only describes a brief run-in with them, so they (the Confederacy include the Kree) weren't behind the main attack.
 * Brett3801: Fitz and Enoch had bounties on their heads before Kitson, so seemingly for a while, and the Chronicoms placed the bounty. So, it was probably because of the failed attack.
 * Bennyhef234: Malachi only just got the message that they're wanted in Season 6, he wouldn't get the message a year later if they were the ones who put it on Fitz and Enoch.
 * Brett3801: He wasn't learning about the bounty in that moment, he was learning about Fitz and Enoch's location.
 * Bennyhef234: We don't know how long the Chronicoms have been hunting them, only that it began after Chronyca-2's destruction.
 * Brett3801: Atarah specifically says a year.

What Marvelus said about the timeline I'm going to get to in responding.

Could someone let me know roughly which episode/about how far in any of these things are so I can refresh myself:
 * The attack on Zephyr One where Enoch has the line about it being different this time.
 * When the Chronicoms explain their grievance against Enoch.
 * When the Chronicoms explain about Chronyca-2 and why they need S.H.I.E.L.D..
 * When Atarah says they spent a year.
 * When Fitz and Simmons discuss a brief run-in with the Kree.
 * When Malachi gets the message about the bounty/location.
 * When the team are shown running from the Confederacy.