Thread:Marvelous 345678/@comment-27496405-20180723185324/@comment-26838855-20180804170606

Cloak & Dagger (Mrmichaelt, Bussterj, Deadpooled123)
Mrmichaelt wrote: I agree, Mardi Gras overrules it and the dates of the tournament can be adjusted since unless the championship banners hanging in the gym, in the ep. 1 I think gave any indication, the show doesn't outright state what division St. Sebastian's participates in. But, just as an example of the tournament timeline, this was the 2017 Division 1 bracket for the Louisiana High School Boys Basketball from maxpreps.com. Thanks. Now that the season is over and we can finally draw the conclusion that it is February 2017, I'll have a crack in the next few days at rewatching the show and sketching out the exact dates. Basically, it will be working back from Mardi Gras on February 28th, and trying to minimise the time that passes so that the basketball finals are as close to real life as possible. I'll probably also try and make them the same day of the week as the real world, so they'll just be exactly 2 weeks (or something like that) earlier than the real world.

Bussterj wrote: This weeks cloak and dagger 100% Mardi Gras! Yeah. I've been writing up the final list of all the evidence and will post that soon, but the conclusion is February 2017.

Deadpooled123 wrote: Also, Cloak and Dagger happens over three days referring to the lessons shown What do you mean? The season as a whole is a lot more than 3 days, do you just mean the finale? And which lessons are you referring to?

Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.: Season 5, Episode 13 - Principia (Mrmichaelt)
Mrmichaelt wrote: (Counting the recap at the start of Principia) I think the monitor appeared in full view around the 3:13 and 4:11 marks. But there were some close ups, 2 or 3, but characters like Simmons were blocking part of the monitor in the shot. Thanks. It's very very hard to make out, but I'll have a very close look at these two pages of HD screencaps: 1, 2. I assume these are what Marvelous was referring to.

Avengers: Infinity War/Avengers 4
Marvelous 345678 wrote: The Russos also talked about Okoye having an important role on Avengers 4 in the extras, so maybe there is not time jump between Infinity War and Avengers 4 so late May-early June might be the final thing. Dammit Marvel. You son of a...

Okay, now that I am not joking around, :v, I think 21 months works perfectly. And also rewatching AoS512 (lovely episode) I have realized that the December 6th date is not blur, it is intended to be December 6th but I think it should be ignored. And even further when Avengers 4 comes in and change some more placements. Like I say: Marvel you son of a... Well Okoye could still have a major part to play 5 years down the line. But we'll see, I don't know if it's as simple as a 5-year jump, but I do think there's something going on involving the future.

21 months does work nicely. I started doing more California legal research and saw some stuff suggesting there might not be good behaviour reduction options in house arrest, but it wasn't clear. I'll keep researching and keep thinking about the issue, because I'm sure there will be more contradictory evidence to come later on, but for now... for now, we're good. I've done a big edit of the 2018 page to correct the dates and rewrite the reference.

The "12-06-2017" isn't super clear, but it is legible. If it were just the one date, I would agree that it could be ignored. However, it lines up perfectly with:
 * Being soon after Rewind, which is November 25-26, 2017.
 * Being "months" after they left in May 2017, as mentioned by Hale in Episode 12.
 * Being soon after Thor: Ragnarok, with the Episode 11 reference suggesting the events were recent, and that film is in late 2017.
 * Being only a little time before Christmas, which seems to be when Episode 13 - Principia is set.

I know what you mean about the "Son of a..." feeling. Sometimes, watching Marvel mess up their timeline, my mind goes to Nick Fury's last words. "Motherf-..."

Marvelous 345678 wrote: In the Blu Ray, they talk about Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. They say we ahve to watch it to find out where Cull Obsidian's hand is 😂 Well even if it's a joke, I'm glad they mentioned it!

Daredevil
Marvelous 345678 wrote: Daredevil Season 3 confirmed for this year. 2018 It had kind of already been confirmed but I'm glad it's been reconfirmed. I have to adjust my prediction blog again now that we know Iron Fist: Season 2 is 10 episodes and not 13, because that changes things a little (plus I already had to update the timeline prediction part of it anyway), but the prediction I got for Daredevil: Season 3 with the assumption that Iron Fist: Season 2 was going to be 10 episodes was Friday November 30th. That prediction might change a little once I update it, but still, around then.

Janet van Dyne
Steve993 wrote: So Ant-Man and the Wasp finally was released in Ireland/UK and I got to see it and enjoyed it. One thing that I guess I should have expected but was disappointed by was the lack of Michelle Pfeiffer as Janet in the film that the whole movie was about getting her back. When she did appear like the opening and in the last act I thought she did well she embodied that fun playful but also kind person who loved being a superhero that I saw in Avengers EMH that translated from the comics. I admitedly haven't read Janet in the comics but I want to go back at some point because she seems like a character I'd like.

The thing I'm trying to piece together though is the flashback stuff mainly when do Hank and Janet become agents working for S.H.I.E.L.D.? If I were to guess they'd be born in the late 40s to early 50s respectively as not every character matches their actors' age especially with them since Michelle Pfeiffer is about 14 years younger than Douglas. You expect maybe the 1960s as homage to when they first appeared in comics and that's when James Bond was popular and the height of the Cold War or whatever but I think they'd be too young still. Given we know they are there by the 80s with them stopping the missile in 1987 and Hank resigns in 1989 then I'm guessing they join in the 70s? Then there's the stuff regarding Elihas Starr and Bill and Ava does that happen after Janet is lost? I guess Starr is fired sometime in the 80s and then maybe continues his research into the 90s and is killed and that's when Bill shows up.

Honestly if we got a movie about Hank and Janet a lot of this stuff would be cleared up more. I mostly think about this stuff because I'm actually interested in the prequel MCU idea because it's completely unmarked territorty they've barely scratched the surface of that's far removed from modern day stuff. Obviously Captain America TFA is the beginning of it because it has too and then Agent Carter continues where that leaves off but it was cut too short. After those Ant-Man flashbacks we have nothing until Captain Marvel and maybe Black Widow is possibly going to be there as well.

So if they were active in the 70s what missions did you think Hank and Janet did? Would you like to see more of them or a movie about other heroes back then like the Invaders/Pro-Avengers with Peggy and Howard as the leaders with Fury then being inspired by it to create the Avengers? I'd be down for a Hank and Janet prequel and an Avengers Cold War film and Fantastic Four set in the 60s and a S.H.I.E.L.D. film centering on Peggy and Howard or Nick Fury or all three being at the centre of it. Or even if you wanted to go further what would other cosmic characters like Stakarr and Yondu and their Guardians team or Asgardians be doing? I'd have been curious to see someone from Asgard like Sif actually appear in Agent Carter again if it continued and they don't know it's their first encounter with Asgard. As a fellow U.K. resident, I know how annoying it has been for the last month not being able to see the film.

I agree I expected a little more Janet, but hopefully we'll see a bit more of her in future films.

Hank says in Ant-Man that he created the Pym particle "40 years ago", so presumably in the mid-1970s, and presumably he was working for S.H.I.E.L.D. by that point.

I think they made Michelle Pfeiffer look a bit older than her real age, so it's more likely they're both Michael Douglas' age or maybe a little younger, born around the mid-to-late-1940s.

I'd be interested in a prequel, definitely. I'd love to see more of the MCU history fleshed out.

Deadpooled123 wrote: A Fantastic Four film set in the 1960's would not work in the MCU because for it to be apparent, you would have to include random continuity out of nowhere in future films and television shows. Not necessarily, there could have been heroes back then. It would just make it difficult if you want to have them interact with the characters in the present day, but the '60s era could fit their characters really well.