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WinterWolverine wrote: If that's the case, which I agree, then should we mark those images for deletion? As well as remove them from all their respective articles? I would, but the more urgent thing for me was getting rid of those dates which I so often see being referenced. I'll let this first change settle before I get involved in completely eradicating them, don't want a drastic change all at once. And completely eradicating them also isn't top priority for me.

Avengers: Infinity War Timings (64SuperNintendo)
64SuperNintendo wrote: Well, in this interview [], Clark Gregg says that he thinks the season ends in the moments leading up to, or during, the battle of Wakanda. While it may or may not be accurate, it fits with my conclusion.

I went with the earliest possible sunrise and latest possible sunset of the year, so Tahiti at 05:13 (using Papeete), Wakanda at roughly 18:30 to 18:40 or so.

If you want to keep the daylight realistic for Tahiti, then let's say it's at least 10 minutes after sunrise by the time Coulson steps out of the Quinjet.

Going with the earliest possible sunrise of the year, the final scene of AoS 5x22 is at 05:16-05:25 Tahiti/17:16-17:25 Wakanda (a few minutes before the Avengers arrive in Wakanda). In this case, going by Eastern Standard Time (using your post):

07:16-07:21: Events at Talbot's house.

07:34: Robin tells Talbot that the gravitonium is in Chicago.

07:45: Talbot arrives in Chicago.

07:46: The team finds out that Talbot is in Chicago.

08:06: The team arrives in Chicago.

08:25: Ending of Chicago events.

11:16-11:25: Tahiti.

11:30: Arrival at Wakanda.

12:24: The snap.

Going with the sunrise of March 29, then 06:06-06:15 Tahiti/18:06-18:15 Wakanda.

08:06-08:11: Events at Talbot's house.

08:24: Robin tells Talbot that the gravitonium is in Chicago.

08:35: Talbot arrives in Chicago.

08:36: The team finds out that Talbot is in Chicago.

08:56: The team arrives in Chicago.

09:15: Ending of Chicago events.

11:30: Arrival at Wakanda.

12:06-12:15: Tahiti (this is during the battles in Wakanda and Titan, so it's up to you how to place these events in relation).

12:24: The snap.

I'd personally go with the first option (earliest possible sunrise) as Talbot's son would presumably have school that day if it is Thursday, meaning it would be earlier in the morning.

However, the closer Infinity War gets to June, the more likely it is that this won't work, as the time difference between Tahiti's sunrise and Wakanda's sunset would then be at 11:30 hours, which is why I suggested ignoring the accurate daylight times as a possible alternative if things become problematic. No need to do that as of yet though. I was actually just finishing this message when you posted your reply. But it's still relevant, just yeah, it was written before you posed so that's why it says things like "we have to consider Wakanda":

I had a further look at the timings for the snap and how it fits now, and we have to also consider Wakanda. Now, in Civil War, the map shown in the news would place Wakanda around Lake Turkana, Kenya. However, in Black Panther, when Killmonger enters the Ancestral Plane and looks at his father's notes, N'Jobu has written that it is at "2°39'30.19" S 29°0'29.36" E". This would place it around the border between the Democratic Republic of Congo and Rwanda - the nearest city being Bukavu, Democratic Republic of Congo. It's significantly further south-west than the Civil War location.

It's more likely to be the N'Jobu location, because the location given in the news is at a time when Wakanda was a lot more secretive and hidden, so it's possible they didn't actually know where it was or they gave a false location. N'Jobu is more likely to be correct, especially with his very specific coordinates.

Now, looking at Tahiti sunrise times, sunrise on March 29th was 06:03, which is 16:03 UTC. Looking at Bukavu sunset times, sunset on March 29th was 18:12, which is 16:12 UTC. So basically, the snap would have to occur somewhere between 16:03 and 16:12 UTC.

So, with Infinity War 2:12:20-2:14:17 showing the aftermath of the snap, then 2:14:17-2:16:04 showing simultaneous events on Titan, and 2:16:04-2:16:39 showing the events in Wakanda after the previous scene minimum 30 seconds after the last Wakanda scene, then we've got at least 01:57 + 00:30 + 00:35 = 03:02, about 3 minutes of events after the snap still in Wakanda daytime. So the snap would have to be latest 16:09 UTC, and preferably several minutes earlier since sunset hasn't started.

And with 40:36-42:17 of The End showing Tahiti in sunlight, at least 2 minutes before the snap is already Tahiti daytime. So the snap would have to be earliest 16:05 UTC, and preferably several minutes later since sunrise has finished.

So, finally, we know it's between 16:05 and 16:09 UTC. There happens to be as little as a 4-minute window in which the snap could take place if it is on March 28th. So we can place the snap at 16:07 UTC, just about squeezing in.

This makes it 06:07 Tahiti/09:07 San Francisco/12:07 New York/18:07 Wakanda. It doesn't match the :54, but that doesn't matter too much if the car clock is just wrong, and also, it's likely that March 29th isn't the permanent placement.

Additional bit after your post: Yeah, I'll work through it with your suggestions and the 12:07 snap time to find the exact timings of all the events. 12:07 and the earlier U.S. sunrise time do give more time for the events of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Episodes 21 and 22 to fit in before the snap - it becomes a tiny bit more comfortable.