Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-26838855-20190803131136/@comment-26838855-20191118222450

Spider-Man: Far from Home (Mrmichaelt, Jazz2405, The Wikia Editor)
Mrmichaelt wrote: Got it. Marketing sources I find are moot. Ignore posters and even the passport. I'd argue they tried to edit the day out of Peter's passport but forgot to change the year "JUL 19" to "JUL 24" but didn't do any diligence with when it takes place in the timeline - i.e. June. Because July was when it comes out in theaters so they used July for marketing.

Keeping Endgame in October might be more important down the line when it gets referenced in later movies (ex. we beat Thanos last year). Pushing to November might create potential headaches.

I vote for June 26-July 3. I don't really see October to November causing any particular problems, nor do I tend to let hypothetical problems potentially down the line affect the placement when we can't know that that will happen. So I wouldn't really agree with that point.

But thanks for the input over your thoughts on the marketing's significance. That was kind of my thought process before, when I decided on the current placement. Because the marketing just didn't feel strong enough. It was the fact that they continued adding to it: the social media posts with the passport date, the Blu-ray menu containing it, and Peter's To-Do List meaning that now to ignore the marketing would be even further removed from it. Plus I became increasingly convinced that assumptions about school just finishing later, affected by the "Blip" (I don't like that term being used for Hulk's Snap because in Far from Home it's used to refer to the Snap and the whole 5 years) which is such a monumental disruption to the way the world works. And the consistency of the marketing dates lining up (plus still using the passport for the birthday), without any actual hard evidence being provided in the film to back up June other than just matching the standard academic calendar... I just came to feel that it might be better to just make an assumption about the disruption to academic calendars and go with the actual dates provided.

But if everyone else is agreed that June 26-July 3 is best, then sure.

Jazz2405 wrote: june 26 - july 3 Thanks for your input as well.

The Wikia Editor wrote: Hi everyone, it's been a while. Good to hear from you again.

The Wikia Editor wrote: Funny enough, people were discussing this on the movie's headscratchers page on TV Tropes and I was the one who provided an answer there. Here's what I said:

"According to Peter's passport, he was born on August 10 (which is a reference to the August 10, 1962 release date of Amazing Fantasy #15). The events of Homecoming occur in September 2016 (just over 2 months after Civil War), during which Peter states he's 15, putting his date of birth on August 10, 2001. Peter got snapped sometime around Spring 2018 (prior to his 17th birthday) and was resurrected around October 2023 (8 months prior to the events of Far From Home, which starts off in late June and then continues into July 2024). Basically, Peter is biologically 17, but has only celebrated 16 birhdays and, for the sake of convenience and an attempt at retaining normalcy, seemingly prefers to count using his birthdays rather than counting the number of days he's been alive."

So basically, yeah, I agree with you. Thanks for using our work to answer them. We made that assumption a few months ago when Far from Home came out that the birthday thing was the case. The question now was more "Is this just an excuse for our way of pardoning their mistake with Peter and Flash, or are we actually going to accept this as an in-universe likely-consistent rule and apply it to others?", when it comes to The Daily Bugle.

The Wikia Editor wrote: Agreed, me too. Yeah, I'm outnumbered on this. Thanks for your input, guys. If anyone else has thoughts, drop them here. I'll get to moving the events soon-ish, either after a few more opinions or just after a little more time to make sure there aren't more opinions coming.

Loki (Gerisama, Mrmichaelt)
Gerisama wrote: The Loki series will reportedly feature time travel as well...

I wonder how they will solve it. Maybe the Ancient One, (,White Monolith..nah,) or something completely different. Yeah I was going to mention this. I mean, we knew this. It had been rumoured, and also the moment it was confirmed it would at least start in 2012, the 1975 shot became an indication of time travel.

I am so sick of time travel already. I liked what Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. and Avengers: Endgame did with it, and I'm happy with what Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. is doing with it, but if only those had been one-offs and then done.

I don't get the hype for this Loki show. Everything about it makes it more and more uninteresting and I'm so tired of him as a character. They're making a Loki show? Let that character just be dead, he's done. They're going into alternate universe Loki? Great, getting messier with the multiverse and following a version I don't care about. They're tying into Multiverse of Madness? God I hope they're not bringing Loki back into the fold through this. They're doing time travel? Ugh.

Mrmichaelt wrote: Since it was just reported Loki also ties into the Strange sequel, one would think this branch timeline Loki stole the Time Stone and the force that's on his heels is the branch timeline Ancient One or various sorcerers sent by her. Unless Loki knows magic spells capable of time travel? Nah. Though I am hoping a little for something new like the Time Variance Authority. I mentioned a thing before about train tracks, you might remember, about what would happen with Loki if he went back in time, but I hadn't really thought it through properly, which writing my blog helped me do. I included this question section for this reason, and concluded that it would theoretically be possible, given Loki has some method of time travel, for this version of Loki to end up through time travel also being in the main universe.

But it's so particular about travelling back and being around at the time of the split that it's highly unlikely they'll use that method if they want to bring him back into the main MCU. If they do bring him into the main MCU, they'll probably just have him universe-hop or something.

I really, really hope they don't bring him into the main MCU though. Let Loki go, guys.

Maybe some other characters they introduce will appear in Multiverse of Madness, or the effects of Loki messing up the multiverse.

Captain Marvel and Iron Fist Past Dates (additional)
Particularly for people like CirUmeUela, just thought I'd let you guys know that I recently have calculated every flashback/other past date from Captain Marvel and Iron Fist: Season 2 and put them onto the timeline. So if anyone wants to know those dates, you can find the Captain Marvel ones here and Iron Fist: Season 2 ones here.