Thread:CirUmeUela/@comment-27496405-20180307074410/@comment-27496405-20180624044859

BEJT wrote:

I know that if necessary, sure, Game of Thrones can be assumed to be ahead of the real world - or the guy on the street is just saying "bend the knee" with regards to Daenerys in 2016 as just a general phrase she might use, and it happened to to later, in 2017, become an actual recurring quote of hers from the show.

Apparently as well as the magazine, I'm hearing there's a moment in Episode 6 where Mariah's bank account says her next statement will be September 2018, suggesting it's currently August 2018. But that's the sort of thing that, like the magazine, doesn't necessarily need to be hard fact. The year is very blurry in the magazine, and I'm assuming the bank statement date isn't particularly clear (if it is, that's a bit more difficult), and the statement doesn't 100% give us a date, but rather implies a date. Also, apparently in Episode 4 Misty has a 9/18 registration sticker, meaning it is most likely between September 2017 and September 2018 (1-year registration), if not at least between September 2016 and September 2018 (2-year registration), and Shades has a 1/18 registration sticker, so likely between January 2017 and January 2018 (1-year), if not at least between January 2016 and January 2018 (2-year).

I just find this frustrating. Both Cloak & Dagger and Luke Cage are causing problems again.

Is it possible that the Game of Thrones' connection fits with the books? The books have gotten released before the TV Show.

BEJT wrote: That's fantastic! Wow!

I have a few questions to ask: Yeah, it is great. Hm lets see my friend. Blog de Superheroes is a community which I first encountered back in 2013. I have been a part of it ever since, all the news are about superhero stuff and it is a likeable place to share with others. Recently, during a period I left the blog until the begginning of this year, the Blog decided to open a new section: the users that wanted to contribute with articles and stuff could contact the blog via email, I was thinking about reaching to them. So when I was on vacation, on March, I decidedd to use the email and asked him to do multiple reports about the MCU Timeline, he told me that it was going to be a hard work but if I could hanlde it then they would help me with everything. I wrote the first article where I exposed everything from this article: Before 20th Century, I ommited several details because I had only 1200 words.
 * 1) So you're planning on getting this PDF out around April/May 2019?
 * 2) When you say "the admin wants to publish the book", do you mean publish online as a PDF or publish hardcopy? Hardcopy would probably be quite difficult legally and money-wise and with all sorts of things - it would probably not be a good idea. But a PDF would be really cool.
 * 3) When you say "minimun of 1200 words" do you mean maximum 1200 words? Minimum is the smallest number required, maximum is the limit. So are you saying that you had to cut things down because there is a word limit of 1200 words on the articles?
 * 4) I'm surprised you thought there was a dead period for content, it's felt pretty constant to me for the last year or so😂. But we'll have a pretty calm period coming up. Between early August 2018 (when Cloak & Dagger finishes and Ant-Man and the Wasp comes out here) and March 2019 (Captain Marvel), for 7 months, we'll have no films, and only a few shows - Daredevil: Season 3, Runaways: Season 2, Iron Fist: Season 2, and possibly New Warriors: Season 1. This should help with catching up as well - but my 3 months of no commitments, which is right around the corner, will also help. I'm going to be doing a lot on here for the next 3 months.
 * 5) How's the book going to work? Is it verbatim copying of the wiki pages? Is it each point, but cut down? Is it copies of your articles, which are cut down versions? Does it omit smaller, less important details? I'm interested.
 * 6) Thank you for doing this, and the introduction, and for giving me recognition, and your compliments. That makes me proud of my work, and you should be proud too!
 * 7) This summer, one of the things I will be doing, as I comb through and do my major project, is cleaning up every timeline page to be perfected and referenced and all under control. There could well be several small corrections, but I don't want to make your work retroactively incorrect. Is it possible to go back and make minor edits to your posted articles, to make some slight corrections if anything comes up, if you want to? And hopefully, if you're intending on finishing the PDF/book next year, then that won't cause problems for that, because the pages should be all cleaned up over the next few months.
 * 8) Is there any way in which I can help with this project? I'd be happy to, however I can with the time that I have.

But I put some minor details to indicate the reader when was a movie set for example, when I started to talk about Hela, I put: "Until she got freed by 2017" or when I talked about Thor's film: "Until the events of Thor (2011) which takes place on 2010." The following articles I started from 1900s and that. All the details were explained on the article, and if someone had doubt I answered them on the comments section. I also have made a few details and added some of my personal thoughts for some dates. For example, I tried to be not exactly accurate about the placement for Hela and other stuff because those dates are based off calculations and it didn't give me the time to explain everything as it should be.

Then, several articles started to arise and people started to claim nothing but praise. Here are some comments that I want to rescue. I have written over 27 articles, and 21 have already gotten published.


 * The Beggining:
 * "Cinecomics: Superb, wonderful work, you sent yourself [my name], congratulations and waiting for the next compilation of the timeline 😀"
 * Rakunner (one of the greates fan of our work): "My congratulations [my name]!! 😉 At first I thought it was just a list of which film was first but I was wrong, very well written and explained, although many things I do not understand since I was not aware but I am glad that the rest of the story will continue this way, I want the second part! 😀"
 * Vision: "Thank you for taking the time and effort. It seems to me an incredible and well explained article. Many of the connections between Cinema and television had escaped me. Waiting for the next one with desire!"
 * Dhix: "This is the Marvel XD bible, good work [name]."
 * Emilioo: "The other day I saw a comment from you that you were preparing this and I was waiting with desire. I love these types of posts. Great job, tio!"
 * Killer Smile: "It's history, yo!"
 * Marvel-DC Universe: "How cool, man. "Mola" ("turns on" xD) a thousand and very well explained."
 * The Birth of a Legend:
 * Dr Kadok: "How much precision a great laburo (work) follows."
 * Post-War:
 * 2.0.1.6.: "Ah! So here is the famous chronology! What a hell of a job. The history of the MCU, you should think about editing it when you finish it and make a book with illustrations and all that"
 * Rakunner: "If he gets to do that I support him with the illustrations 😉"
 * Whampiry: "Incredible work yours. Thorough and detailed. I applaud you and the truth be told and I want to read the next installment [...]"
 * Batmanzarate89: "Simply awesome !! Very detailed! Comprehensive chronology! It has to become a book! Thank you very much for such a tremendous contribution!"
 * vicven: "Excellent chronology and great work brother. Congratulations. I cannot wait to continue reading the next installments !!"
 * The foundations of a new era:
 * Dex-Starr: "They should somehow try to contact Marvel and with their authorization, make a book with this collection with images and original sources, it would be a boom, I am sure. Good job."
 * Heisenber Soprano Underwood: "You work with these reports is simply impeccable. We realize that Marvel has neglected minor details such as dates in newspapers in the background or on televisions. Thing that thanks to this, we know what the incongruities are, his biggest mistake was in Homecoming. Great job."
 * A New Era:
 * Whampiry: "When you finish the chronology it is to edit it in pdf and to hang it, because such a work you are giving. I applaud you for the level of thoroughness and detail in your work"
 * vicven: "Spectacular! I applaud you, when you finish, it would be worth it to turn it into a book or something like that 😍 It's amazing."
 * AlejandroRPoloMereime: "Sincerely, it is spectacular, companion. An authentic achievement, even for me as I like the theme of chronology."
 * End of the 20th century - Part I
 * End of the 20th Century - Part II: It was in this article where I listed this blog User:Marvelous 345678/Inhumans, Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Season Five and Runaways (2017-2018) Timeline for the Inhumans past dates, in the article I sent I mentioned you but the admin decided to erase all the explanation for the maths-uses because the article had like 1250 words and it was harsh to publish for the website. The admin knows about you and I have mentioned you a couple of times but I cannot find this comments. Due to certain amount of spam, some comments gets deleted and so. Sorry, but YOU will have the recognition that YOU deserve.
 * vicven: "Every day more fascinated with this section. CONGRATULATIONS my pana !!"
 * A New Century:
 * 2.0.1.6.: "Tio, seriously. You are a big! I get excited with the way to fit everything with the hours and hours of data that we have been given since 2008. Puff, it is a pleasure to read such a detailed chronology. You deserve this to be published as a book for MCU's frikis"
 * Batmanzarate89: "Amazing! You should coordinate all Marvel productions from now on. Surely everything would be much more consistent .. Kevin Feige has to read this!"
 * The monster emerges
 * I am Iron Man.
 * Fury's Big Week:
 * A user named TARADOSCARAS presented to me its timeline for the MCU and it was based on the release order, I presented to him ours and he said: "I congratulate you and I greatly appreciate this dedication to such a monumental chronology. And in honor of so much detail, I will see everything from 2015 onwards, I think it will be even more enjoyable with your recommendation, all this until we get to avenger 4, thank you and congratulations again."
 * Batmanzarate89: "I am reading these articles with great enthusiasm, I love them. In fact, I wanted to edit all the series and movies in this order that you propose, cutting out each event and putting it chronologically, although it is a titanic task, I think it would be another way to enjoy the ucm in .. some .. 300hours of MCU."
 * The Road to the Avengers!
 * The Battle of New York (2012):
 * Jimmy13: "By force we must obviate the data provided by Fury (in the Avengers) directly to maintain a correct timeline. [...] I think that so far I have not been able to thank you and congratulate you for the tremendous work you are doing. Really, the level of research is incredible. Take it easy that maybe your head explodes a little ... Well, seeing how you've done everything for the best, that happened already xD"
 * If only he knew xD...
 * Rick: "You deserve a prize and those who help you put this chronology together. Excellent work you guys have."
 * Rogers: "As always, an excellent job! We can see that Marvel has very neglected the chronology and it must cost you a lot to organize the dates, my respects 😀"
 * After the Battle of New York:
 * Marvelto, even though he believes the MCU is totally disconnected: "What a work you have "stuck"... You deserve a round of applause [...]"
 * Azael: "Keep going, wow wow wow"
 * The New World:
 * Rakunner: "I still admire your work [...]"
 * Azael: "Every time I finish reading one of your reports I'm wanting more!"
 * The beginnings of the fall - Part I:
 * CdeflOw, the first one to bring up the Thor's age subject, he never responded: "Incredible work yours, impressive and impeccable. My congratulations"
 * Azael: "I need more of this!"
 * The fall starts - Part II:
 * Batmanzarate89: "I'm curious, is one person who takes this job? It seems that there is a research team of 40 people behind this. Awesome!!!"
 * Finally found one of the comments where I mentioned you, BEJT, do you remember when we decided to try to convince people that "8 years later" was wrong by our own methods? xD I told him that situation xD.
 * Azrael Rider: "In fact, I remember for the moment it seemed the most logical thing that the series will be around the year it was released, but hey, seeing the information given in Agents of Shield and subsequent films, it seems logical that the film falls in January 2014. Good job!"
 * The fall of S.H.I.E.L.D. - Part III
 * The War Begins
 * The Age of Miracles
 * Quest for the Orb

Now I will answer your questions my friend!: I have a few questions to ask:

So you're planning on getting this PDF out around April/May 2019?
 * 1) Nope, as you realize, the work here on the wikia is HUGE! Putting that into the book while more comics, TV Shows, movies and stuff (the MCU Official Timeline) it will be too difficult to add everything. I haven't even started the book because the timeline is in constant change, it would be crazy to start doing the book. I will probably start to make him post-Spider-Man: Far From Home (really guys, Holland needs to zip it! xD). I mean by that time everything will be put into order and the changes that will come eventually will have to be added. I will finish to publish all the articles regarding the timeline on the blog and then I will begin to do the other thing.

When you say "the admin wants to publish the book"[...]
 * 1) The book thing didn't attract me until I started to see how well received were the articles on Facebook and Twitter (Blog de Superheroes has its own account and they publish every article they have on there), and even more people have reached to them, I have found a lot of people doing their timelines using OURS from the wikia and the blog. I was on a comment section with other guy and he corrected an user saying: Punisher takes place on November 2016 while Jessica Jones S2 on 2017, check on the wikia. That really got me, so I contacted the admin again and told him the idea about the book, my idea: write an article regarding the previous articles and explaining how the book was going to work and other stuff and leaving a way to download the book using the PDF format thanking the blog (of course) for the publication so it gets more recognition as well to mention all the ones involved in the making of our timeline, you, Elledy, Cirim, Explicit, Derksen, Bratpack and others and to mention this wikia all in PDF Format. He loved the idea. Of course, when I translate the book into an Englush version I was thinking on sending it to the Russos themslves and other web pages. If someone can do their own mistaken timeline, why cannot we?

When you say "minimun of 1200 words" do you mean maximum 1200 words?[...]
 * Yes, sorry, it is because the articles with a minimun of 1200 words can get published easily but the ones with more than 1200 are too hard and dense to publish, I didn't want to bother the admin because he was allowing me to publish our work so I started to stay close to the 1200 words. I don't have authority to publish the articles myself, I just make everything on WORD and sent them via email. They get published and that, I cannot edit them for more than I wish.

I'm surprised you thought there was a dead period for content, it's felt pretty constant to me for the last year or so😂
 * 1) Yeah well hahaha, I haven't watched AoS since episode 10 of Season Five, I was just seeing some content from YouTube to help in here. I haven't had the time. xD sorry if I am not as helpful as I used to be.

How's the book going to work? Is it verbatim copying of the wiki pages? Is it each point, but cut down? Is it copies of your articles, which are cut down versions? Does it omit smaller, less important details? I'm interested.
 * 1) As I cannot reach you outside of this wikia, I can't ask you for help when I start with the book. It is not like Elledy who I found on Facebook xD. Okay I was thinking for it to have the following structure:
 * Title: Marvel Cinematic Universe: The First Decade
 * Introduction: Explaining how we began to work here on the wikia, giving thanks to Derksen, Bratpack and others for starting to make the years articles. Thanks to Blog de Superheroes for allowing to use its forum to publish the articles: a link to each article and stuff. Mention the ones who collaborate here on a big list.
 * Explanation: Explaining every process (in Spanish, then it will be tranlsated to English of course) for the making of the Timeline, explaining the dates, maths and stuff, when real time works and when it does not. Now that you are part of it, it would be a honor for me for you to write it. You are more qualified than me to build this section.
 * Then making a full-ish explanation for each installment on release order, explaining the pros-and-cons, an official placement, the analysis of the 2012 Timeline and the upcoming timeline and concluding: "As seen above, [this movie] is set around February 2017". After it gets all explained (by release order) then we will cut to:
 * Timeline. All the events in chronological order, with references listed in the bottom of the page. Pictures, paragraphs, references (APA Format, specially when it is about an article regarding a writer or director's comments). And I was thinking on adding a curiosity section. For example, when we are on December 2017: "Did you know that on Alex Wilder's room it can be seen some pez-dispenser of Iron Man, Spider-Man and Captain America?"
 * Conclusion. Thanking Kevin Feige and CIA.

Thank you for doing this, and the introduction, and for giving me recognition, and your compliments. That makes me proud of my work, and you should be proud too!
 * 1) No bro, thanks to you, I have already said, you are the big piece that puts this puzzle together. I know it is frustratinf for you to see how people talks bad about your work or how it gets ignored because the wikia has not such an impact for being FANDOM, so this is your reward. And you deserve more! I will ensure to make you the big head of the work, because I am not.

There could well be several small corrections, but I don't want to make your work retroactively incorrect. Is it possible to go back and make minor edits to your posted articles, to make some slight corrections if anything comes up, if you want to? And hopefully, if you're intending on finishing the PDF/book next year, then that won't cause problems for that, because the pages should be all cleaned up over the next few months. Is there any way in which I can help with this project? I'd be happy to, however I can with the time that I have.
 * 1) You can help of course! It is YOUR work, I have already told you how I got the articles published, I cannot edit them sadly. But on the final repor I will explain to the readers that as the timeline is in constant change some things have been moved and got changed and that. Also, I will tell them to make it viral and if they have a doubt they can reach me using the blog. That is it.

I love that you love the idea! Good luck on your exams! :D