User blog:Funkey Kong/When was President Ellis elected?

When was President Ellis elected?
We have nothing official that confirmes anything about President Ellis election date but we have clues which we can use to assume some things.

Let's start with what we do know for certain.

 * We know he was president in 2012 during the Kidnapping of President Ellis (December 24, 2012)
 * We know he was president in 2015. He holds a press conferance about Inhuman Threats in the episode Laws of Nature and appears twice more in the same season to talk to Coulson (Bouncing Back and Parting Shot)
 * We know he was president in 2016 during the Attack on the IFID Headquarters (May 3, 2016) since he is seen in WIHI Newsfront speaking of the matter. He is also present in one more Newsfront video that year where he is seen discussing the Avengers.

Okay so what are the more uncertain things?

 * In Captain America: The Winter Soldier there is a quote from president Ellis in the Captain America museum that reads "Welcome back, Cap". This has lead people to believe that Ellis was president in 2011 during the time of Steve Roger's defrosting. But, we don't have any evidence to back up this case. This quote could have been said at any time. It doesn't really make any sence that this quote is from any early moment since Fury wanted to take it slow before throwing Cap into the new world.
 * In the Iron Man: The Junior Novel which is a novalisation of the first Iron Man movie wich takes place in 2008, Tony Stark recieves a phonecall from the President and calls him Jim. It is unknown if this is a nickname for Mathew Ellis or if this novel is even canon at all.
 * We also don't know if elections in the MCU are held in the same year as the real world elections. But since there has been no evidence against this, we are to assume it is the same as in the real world.

Looking at the elections

 * During the timeframe we have set up, we have three elections to look at. The presidential elections in 2008, 2012 and 2016.
 * If the quote from Winter Soldier was indeed stated in 2011 then Ellis must have been elected back in November 4, 2008. However if we are to assume that "President Jim" is both canon and another person than Ellis then he must have been elected of reelected in 2008 since Iron Man takes place roughly February-May 2009.
 * The most logical conclusion is this; If Ellis is supposed to be president in both 2012, 2015 and 2016 which we know he most probably is. Then he must have been either elected or reelected in the preidential election in November 6, 2012.
 * For this to make sence he doesn't need to be relected in the 2016 presidential election since the election was held in November 8, 2016 and the last apperance he made was on WIHI on (May 3, 2016).

Please Fact-Check Me

 * I have been using this wik and my own memory as source for all my assumtions.
 * In the episode Uprising there is a Blackout Attack. According to this wiki it is set in late 2017. On this wiki it says that President Ellis is mentioned. Did the terrorists refer to him as "Ellis" or just "The President"?
 * Also in the episode The Patriot, Glen Talbot calls the president. I am once again uncertain if he refers to him as "Ellis" or "The President"

Conclusion
If the MCU presidential elections happens on the same dates as the real ones then we know that President Ellis was either elected or relected in 2012. This we know as a fact.

If the quote from The Winter Soldier is actually supposed to be stated back in 2011 then we also have to assume that "President Jim" from the Iron Man novel either is him or isn't canon.

If he is acually mentioned by name in SHIELD episodes, Uprising or The Patriot which both takes place in 2017 then we can as a fact say that he was elected in 2012 and then relected in 2016.

So the quick anwser is, we don't know anything for certain but we can assume that he won the election in 2012.

- Funkey Kong (talk) 16:10, March 19, 2019 (UTC)

Edit 1
Marvelus pointed out this reference  from the timeline pages   2000s  and the  2010.
 * Presidential elections in the Marvel Cinematic Universe are not the same as in the real world.
 * While it is never outright stated that Obama was president in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, it is implied from Tony's poster, designed to resemble Obama's, in Iron Man 2, the Obama biography in Captain America: The Winter Soldier, and the repeated references to him in Luke Cage, that Obama was likely president at some point.
 * In December 2012, Aldrich Killian refers to President Ellis and says, "After years dodging the President's ban," implying Ellis has been president for years. Killian is also angry at Ellis' lack of involvement in the Norco incident, "2 years ago." It can also be assumed that Ellis was president when Steve woke in October 2011, as it is shown in Captain America: The Winter Soldier that he is quoted as welcoming Steve back to the world.
 * In April 2015, Grant Ward says in A Fractured House that if his brother Christian were allowed to take him, his trial should then "wrap up right before the midterms".
 * A newspaper in Captain America: Civil War shows that it is an election year in 2016.
 * From all of this, it can be assumed that, at least as of 2008, elections in the Marvel Cinematic Universe are biannual instead of every 4 years.

Therefore...

 * Obama would have been elected in November 2008.
 * In May 2010, during Obama's presidency, Tony has a poster resembling Obama's.
 * Ellis would have been elected in November 2010, and dealt with the December 2010 Norco incident and its aftermath as he came into his presidency.
 * He would then have been president when Steve woke in October 2011, and in late December 2012, during Iron Man 3, he would have been president for 2 years (just about fitting as "years").
 * Ellis would have been reelected in November 2014, and then the midterms would have been in November 2015, 7 months after Ward's statement.
 * 2016 would then be the next election year, as shown in Captain America: Civil War.

Thoughts
I am gonna put this in the theory in a more structured way. I just wanted this text to be in here as quick as possible so the theory feels more complete.

- Funkey Kong (talk) 09:13, March 20, 2019 (UTC)

Edit 2
BEJT, the writer of the refrence above reached out and clarified and updated the text. - Funkey Kong (talk) 15:02, March 20, 2019 (UTC)
 * That reference is out of date,
 * Runaways confirmed Obama was president at one point.
 * Now updated, if you want to take a look (I also misused the term "biannual" when I wrote it last time, which means twice a year rather than what I meant, every 2 years).
 * Also thank you for the Junior Novel thing, but if it helps, those tend to be non-canon as novelisations tend to include slight contradictions as they are based on original scripts rather than final scripts.