Thread:Rodangizzardcrusher3/@comment-26687285-20160822213306/@comment-25692211-20170620200434

Well, I wasn't exactly a 90s kid, so I never had a crush on Uma Thurman. I don't know why, because I cannot deny she wasn't beautiful in the 90s and still is quite so now, but I guess since she was a little older when I was a kid I didn't find her that attractive (this in itself is weird, since I still "jump" when I see what Penelope Cruz, Salma Hayek and Marisa Tomei look like now, and that's before I start mentioning Cate Blanchett and Nicole Kidman). It's a bit like Carrie Fisher in a way, since I definitely would have had a crush on her if I grew up in the 80s (insert wolf-whistle and "Hello Nurse!" when watching Return Of The Jedi's Jabba scenes)

And I guess people thought Batman and Robin's tone was just a little too goofy for it's own good. The other films, Forever included, had their campier moments, but they still knew there was emotion and a story to tell. Batman and Robin does try to do this, e.g. Freezes' Backstory, Alfred falling ill, but much like Suicide Squad, a lot of the attempts at emotion feel out of place and unearned because there's so much forced lightheartedness (fun fact: when Joel Schumacher was asked to direct Forever, he originally thought he was going to be adapting the Year One storyline, and was disappointed when he found out this was what the studio wanted)

And unlike films like Suicide Squad or BvS, Batman and Robin at least had something crucial that those movies didn't: self-awareness. The actors are kind of like David Cross in Alvin And The Chipmunks, they know they're not in a good movie and most of them are just trying to pay for a new car or something but they're still having fun and want to make it as enjoyable as possible.