Thread:Marvelus/@comment-27496405-20190519011243/@comment-26838855-20190614223122

Jessica Jones: Season 3 (Marvelus, Rman823, LoreMaster22, ProBot1227, Nox23)
Marvelus wrote: Well people. We are Post Snap again >:v Rman823 wrote: I figured this was going to be the case but its still disappointing to have it confirmed. I was sure this would be the case but then had just started to get hopeful again.

Still not the most annoying thing about the season. No, that's the fact that they changed the episode names to "A.K.A Something" rather than Season 1 and 2's "AKA Something". Not only is it inconsistent, they didn't even bother to make it "A.K.A.". Gah, really bugs me😂.

Marvelus wrote: I am okay with it. I am liking the season. For me it is not the end of the world. But lets Thank God that the Netflix shows got cancelled. No I'm not going to be thankful of that. If they had been cancelled as of The Punisher: Season 2 then it's a silver lining to the cancellation that they never caught up, but this is the worst offender now. If the shows had continued, sure it's bad that they keep going on post-Snap without addressing it, but the worst has happened now anyway (passing the Snap to begin with, and the one closest to the Snap). And I don't wish real world consequences on these shows just because of unfortunate in-universe poor coordination and also something that isn't really the shows' fault anyway.

LoreMaster22 wrote: The thing is you guys conviced me to try to watch some of the Netflex shows and now I know why I stick to moives. The characters just seem so weak compared to the OP powerhouses in the Movies. I get that this is street level heros but still even in the comics they are stronger then this. Sorry for offending anybody.

Also is there any mention of Danielle Cage or is she not a thing? Huh OK, I don't really care about power levels. Any power level can have an interesting story, and if anything it's easier to be interesting on a low level. If the problem is that like Iron Fist is only dealing with low level things and in the comics he's more like Avenger level, well I get how that might bother you but yeah, the Netflix shows can't do world-ending dangers due to the way they're made and their place within the wider universe. But I find that refreshingly different.

I don't know who Danielle Cage is, is it one of Jessica and Luke's children? In which case no, they broke up in Jessica Jones: Season 1 after a very short time together.

Rman823 wrote: Yeah, I'm really enjoying the season (same with A.O.S. Season 6) but there's always that thought in the back of my head on how they'ved messed with the timeline. I love the Netflix series, bu it's going to be nice to have the Disney + shows where Feige will make sure everything lines up. It will be nice for those TV shows to line up, but it's a shame to lose a big chunk of Marvel Television's TV shows, which bring a variety of style to the MCU.

ProBot1227 wrote: I really don't like post-snap. Is there seriously no way to force it pre-snap? It looks like it... *cries in timeline* Unless there's some wiggle room in the comments about a year.

Rman823 wrote: The fact that the show states that it's been over a year since Trish got her powers and the 6 months till Mother's Day line firmly place the season in Fall 2018. It's hard to work around it. Yeah, it's frustratingly specific. And Season 2 is really firmly 2017 (we were impressed by how consciously it seemed to be placed in 2017).

Marvelus wrote: It is a shame tho. I think the MCU TV Shows do a better job to handle their heroes. They are cool beside being "weak". Also, Daredevil would crash Black Widow and Hawkeye.

Danielle Cage does not exist in the MCU. He could take Hawkeye hand-to-hand. Black Widow would be more even, and something to see.

Marvelus wrote: They haven't messed anything from me. That is just a big miscalculation between TV and films. The first one does not care about placing things anymore related to the movies, they just focus to do a great storyline, and Loeb mentioned some "time lords", I feel they are like talking to us. I've mentioned that "time lords" comment before and how he was absolutely referring to us, and I don't like it. He essentially said, "We'll leave it to you guys to do the work for us and make it fit."

Marvelus wrote: No bro, there is no way. But is not the end of the world. I don't think we can force it to be pre-Snap, there is no way. If they had just stayed to the general feeling the Netflix show have (being months between each) we might have worked it out, but nope. They are saying it is a year after S2 (strongly 2017), 6 months away from Mother's Day, Halloween scenario, yeah, we are most likely post Snap. There is no other way. ProBot1227 wrote: Iron Fist killed a Dragon, Daredevil beats Black Window/Hawkeye, Luke Cage is freakin bullet proof, Jessica has super strength, and Frank Castle is... you know. That arguement never made sense to me, and in my opinion most tv characters are actually better characters than film characters.

If we were to rank them in power, I'd think:

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So they hold up pretty good. Anyway, back to mourning the timeline. Ha, good work there.

Marvelus wrote: Agreed. If the Netflix heroes were put in the movies to have a collosal fight, I bet they would kick ass. They wouldn't be entirely out of their depth, at least. There's not much difference between Punisher and Winter Soldier in skill level, between Daredevil and Black Widow, between Iron Fist and Black Panther, between Luke Cage and Drax, between Jessica Jones and Okoye.

ProBot1227 wrote: Maybe we should pretend Valentines day is earlier in the MCU and the season is in spring? A canonical mistake? Mothers' Day. And The Punisher: Season 2 actually confirmed it's the same when they showed it on the May 2018 calendar.

Marvelus wrote: Yeah... I don't think that is how it works tho. It's just too much of an assumption.

ProBot1227 wrote: Same, but I will do anything to get it before the Decimation. **ANYTHING** Marvelus wrote: The only thing you can do is to accept it and move on. And it is not called Decimation anymore, that books has been deemed non canon after Avengers: Endgame. Guh I really don't like that it's been prematurely deemed non-canon. Anyway, I'll be reading that book very soon and I'll let you know what works and what doesn't.

I always hated the Decimation name though. It traditionally means specifically killing 10%. While the word has fallen into a more common usage to just mean some sort of destruction, the fact that the event is specifically about killing a certain percentage that is 50, not 10 really annoyed me.

ProBot1227 wrote: Well, i guess that Guardians of the Galaxy prelude comic is non-canon too, then. Joking, but yeah, snap seems like such a strange term... Exactly. The comic was declared official canon. It had one iffy point and James Gunn jumped the gun in declaring it non-canon due to that, but actually on closer inspection (much like there's a good chance with this book) it isn't much of a problem.

I'll give you that this book has never been explicitly called official canon, but the first book was stated to be canon and you don't have a series with one canon and one not, plus the first book has "Road to Avengers: Infinity War" and the way they've been promoted and put together is very official, with lots of discussion on blurbs and Marvel websites about "Read the new story that leads into the events of X" or "follows on from the events of Y".

ProBot1227 wrote: Well, it's supposed to be before the snap in a year after May 2017 in spring, 6 months before Valentines day. Great timeline, folks! Giving Cloak & Dagger a run for it's money! Again Mothers' Day, so November.

The difference is that Jessica Jones doesn't have internal inconsistencies to the level of Cloak & Dagger, it's an external problem that messes them up and isn't really their fault.

Nox23 wrote: I've come to terms with these shows taking place between Infinity War and Endgame because I don't like aneurysms and I have my own mental workaround that works for me and me only. As for the Spring lines....uuuummmmm difficult but for now the only slight comfort is it takes episode 2 a while to catch up to whenever present day is. The scene that mentions Spring is the scene right before the attack on Brandt, right? Maybe I need to watch it again but it's possible she stalked him for months before making the move on him. Then again I can't really recall if they dropped any present day references before that scene; they may have. Gotta finish the season before I start rewatching I haven't come to terms with this one yet, I guess especially since I haven't hit those "year" lines.

I'm currently watching Episode 2 and yeah, that "spring" line is pre-season. Episode 2 is set across the time between Season 2 and 3. Haven't finished the episode so don't know yet if there's a comfortable 6-month gap between then and the events of Season 3, but at least so far, yes, it's in that time between seasons so could easily be around May 2018.