Thread:Marvelus/@comment-27496405-20190519011243/@comment-25521424-20190731112907

DaenerysTheMadKhal58 wrote: Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote: But if the branches only start when you remove the stones, and close up when you return the stones, how are we even getting a Loki series focusing on the Alternate 2012 Loki? Steve returned the Mind and Time Stones (presumably) seconds after the Avengers took them. Even if Loki ran off with the Space Stone, Cap returning the other two would reset time, which by the very fact that this Loki is getting his own show, has to be incorrect.

Also, having Steve sit idly by as Bucky is brainwashed, Howard is murdered and SHIELD is infiltrated by Zola and HYDRA is such a character assassination. The man we've followed for the past 8 years would never let any of this go, even if the time loop "prevented" him somehow. He'd also, using the knowledge that Peggy develops Alzheimer's, probably get her addicted to word searches and nuts as snacks. Keep her brain healthy. Well, that's just how the writers wrote the movie, they're not in charge of what happens afterwards in the MCU.

And going by their explanation, no matter how much Steve tried to change things in the future, the outcome would still be ultimately the same. In fact, his interference in the past is what might have caused things to go down specifically like this. Here's a quote from Futurepedia that I think explains it well:

"A time traveler attempting to alter the course of history in this model would only be playing their part in shaping history as we already know it, rather than changing any aspects of the past. This is regardless of the time traveler's intentions or efforts to preserve their personal experience, or knowledge, of events." Umh, disagreed with that. That's only happen in a single-timeline system, where in order for things to progress regularly there is a paradox of predestination that block people from altering their own past. But predestination paradox can't happen in a multiverse system.

Leo Fitz's idea of the flow of time was based on the concept of that time can't be changed, ad proved by Charles Hinton's seemingly non-alterable visions of the future. However, he was mistaken: things don't happen because they have to, but because they are most likely to happen. Is not predestination, is a probabilty. That's why he mistakenly states that the team traveled numerous time on the same timeline without being able to changed: each time travel still created a different timeline, but it was a simple matter of probabilty still have to happen in order to thing to occur. This system was seemingly explained in the videogame Bioshock: Infinite, with the concept of constables and variables: there are events, thing and objects in a multiverse that are seemingly the same and that can be changed (a penny is flipped in the hair, and its always came out head in that specific moment) and thing that can be changed and make a strong difference in the timeline (choosing an apple instead of a orange, or choosing to became a priest instead of a private detective). But still, everything exist in a seemingly infinite system of parallel realities.

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