Thread:Marvelus/@comment-27496405-20190519011243/@comment-26838855-20190606150926

Carol and Rhodey (Rman823, Marvelus, Ben 1,000,911, Mrmichaelt)
Rman823 wrote: Carol being born around 1966-1968 always made the most sense to me. Plus it would make her around the same age as Rhodes. From their small interaction in Endgame, I'd like to believe they previously knew each other (not saying to the same extent of their relationship in the comics). Yeah, well by my calculations, 1966. I'll update those calculations soon now that we know when Endgame takes place.

I don't think it works for them to know each other unfortunately considering his reaction to her at the beginning of the film. I think they've just built a bond in the last 5 years.

Not entirely comfortable with the idea of a relationship that some people have suggested. A) I don't think that's implied, but B) while she's the same age as him, it doesn't quite feel right considering her biological age. I don't know, it's tricky. But Thor's 1000 yet we're OK with a relationship with Jane because of his age in human years. It's kind of a question of maturity in terms of years lived vs. maturity in terms of body, and whether it is OK to be physically attracted to someone who is physically much younger so long as their mind is older.

Marvelus wrote: When did was tease that they knew each other before? Xd They didn't, it's just a theory.

Rman823 wrote: It could just be me looking into things, but plenty of others have also noticed the two give each other a look after they have their debriefing with Natasha. Yeah, I just think they have built a mutual respect though.

Ben 1,000,911 wrote: But that was five years after the first 20 or so minutes of Endgame, and there he asked "where have you been all this time?" Indeed.

Mrmichaelt wrote: Lot of speculation arose from the look they gave each other after the 5 year time skip meeting before she signed off. Marvelus wrote: Ohhhh, you mean that look after she disconnected herself from the call? xD I just assumed it was about the Barton's intel. They both knew and Danvers encouraged him to say it. Well it is about Barton's intel, she's wishing him luck delivering the news. It's just I think the look carries a respect they've built over the years. Some people think it's romantic.

Mrmichaelt wrote: Yeah, I'm sure whoever picked up on that were people who knew Rhodey and Carol were an item in the comics. To me, it looked just a 'you'll address the white elephant in the room?' nod. Yeah, I don't think they're going in that comics direction.

Marvelus wrote: Great work with the 2018 references BEJT. Thanks. I was trying to update/improve it while also cutting it down a bit.

Morgan Le Fay (Edward Zachary Sunrose, LoreMaster22, Greater good, Mrmichaelt, Marvelus)
Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote: Runaways just cast Morgana/Morgan Le Fay for Season 3. I think we're going to get some ancient flashbacks. Hopefully. I saw, interesting. Didn't know that stuff was in the comics (assuming it is?). Though I guess all mythology and legend has at some point been in Marvel Comics, adapted into the lore. I've also heard stuff about Captain Britain and/or Black Knight possibly being involved with Excalibur in the comics? I just didn't know they went as far as Morgan Le Fay and Merlin.

LoreMaster22 wrote: Wonder how that will work into the MCU. Watch them say she was part of the Anciet Order of Mysitcs. I would be OK with her being a Master of the Mystic Arts. Would be kind of fun.

Greater good wrote: If there are gonna be flashbacks, I wonder who they will get to play the likes of King Arthur and Merlin? Mmm, could be interesting, especially if Marvel Studios want to deal with that stuff at some point with Captain Britain and/or Black Knight.

Mrmichaelt wrote: Probably tied to the Staff of One. Tina Minoru briefly hinted there was more to the staff in season 2. Yeah, there's a good chance of that.

Marvelus wrote: Damn. You are right Mrmichaelt. I was hoping for them to tie in with Doctor Strange. Not mutually exclusive, they could well do so, especially with the Dark Dimension stuff in Season 2. Just maybe not specifically the Tina problem.

Mrmichaelt wrote: Never know, maybe Morgan and an Ancient One could have fought. The one we met in Doctor Strange was 500 years old, then who she succeeded, Agamotto... I think there's a possibility of a Strange tie-in. She was said to be 700, so yeah, she's about 800 years too young. I'm also not sure she directly succeeded Agomotto. But would be good for more Doctor Strange tie-in.

Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote: I mean, they're definitely doing a Dr. Strange tie-in. Nico has the Dormammu eyes, and it seems like they're going to confirm both versions of Tina are in fact the same woman. Not sure about the Tina thing, but I guess we'll see.

Blackout in Captain Marvel (Ben 1,000,911, Marvelus, ProBot1227)
Ben 1,000,911 wrote: Hey idk if this is the thread for this, but multiple things seem to be going on here and it's the only thread I know of so here goes: in a Victoria Alonso AMA on Reddit, she confirmed that Patrick Brennan's roles in AoS as Blackout and Captain Marvel as a bartender were one and the same. Just wanted y'all to know so you could, like, add that Well it wasn't super clear but I guess it's sort of confirmation.

Doesn't particularly work considering he looks 5 years older, 19 years prior. And this is very much a retroactive thing. But I guess it's nice to be acknowledging the shows more?

Marvelus wrote: Wow!!! That is so cool. Really cool 😍😍😍 could you send a link? Pleaseee Mrmichaelt wrote: ^here: https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelstudios/comments/bx6hvi/im_victoria_alonso_evp_of_production_at_marvel/eq403sd/

Makes sense. On his file, it said his education included a science degree in physics from a university between 1990 and 1996. Probably Bartending to help pay for tuition and other bills. Hmm maybe. He's pretty old for that, looking like he's in his 40s in 1995.

I've said before that I am not familiar enough with Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.: Season 1, but Blackout's page says he was born October 11, 1972. Assuming that's from the show. So I guess the idea of his ageing slowing due to powers doesn't necessarily work - he would have to be 22 when the actor was 43. Eh.

Marvelus wrote: I just saw it!! I am so hyped right now. ProBot1227 wrote: So that means two characters have crossed over from TV-Movie. Neat. Eh. Jarvis is still the first since this is absolutely retroactive. There's also some other murky ones like Jimmy Woo being referenced first in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., but the crossover frankly being an accident, and also it not literally being an actor playing a character crossing over. I would say that Jarvis is the only true intentional and undeniable TV-to-film character crossover.

Doctor Strange in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (CirUmeUela, Mrmichaelt)
CirUmeUela wrote: Marvelus, you said that AoS S4 references Doctor Strange's events from Hong Kong. I remember hearing that, but when is that exactly? Sorry I'm a few days late. I forgot that we started a new thread. This was probably decided a long time ago, but if AoS references Doctor Strange, does that mean the Hong Kong even and Strange reversing time was more or less temporal? Like a few city blocks and not like he was turning back time on the entire planet, solar system, galaxy, universe? Because a few city blocks seems way more realistic anyways. That way somebody could have seen something strange from a distance, hence the AoS reference. Yeah this has been discussed a lot. Whenever the Time Stone reverses things, it's within a certain radius, not actually reversing time.

Weirdly, just hours ago I was trawling through comments from the Russos and Markus/McFeely about the timeline, and they addressed this exact thing - about 2 minutes into this.

CirUmeUela, did you see the remaining Ant-Man and the Wasp dates that I think you were interested in getting? The ones for Ghost's S.H.I.E.L.D. missions and Luis' grandmother's jukebox.

Mrmichaelt wrote: The Hong Kong incident was mentioned in "Lockup" by Senator Nadeer kind of in the middle of the episode. She said, "And yet every day, there are reports of disturbances in Hong Kong or blue-skinned killers in Wyoming."

Ghost Rider also generated a portal like in Dr. Strange in the season finale. Yeah, seemed like the way Strange used the Time Stone created a limited localized effect in that part of Hong Kong. That was always my impression, that it was like the apple but on a larger scale. What Thanos then did to Vision reaffirmed that for me, and the Markus and McFeely comment I just linked cements it. It's the same bit of magic as the apple and Vision, on a larger scale.