Thread:BEJT/@comment-27496405-20170830154244/@comment-27496405-20171001055027

So just to not forget any thing we have two things to do: BEJT wrote: Marvelous 345678 wrote: Okay but we have strong dates for the past timeframe of IF(?) right? Well, it's always been a bit messy.
 * Add those new piece of evidence Shabook gave us a few days ago. Still evidence and gives some great dates, also those documents contradict themselves so we just have to explain that in a new big evidence reference.


 * September 19, 1986 - Ward is born (from Harold's keypad entry).
 * 1990 or 1991 - Joy is born (from being 13 at her father's death, confirmed as 2004).
 * April 1, 1991/1992 - Danny is born (from "April 1st" and him being "10" at the time of his family's crash.
 * 15 years before the show, the commercial is released.
 * July 2001 - Danny broke his arm.
 * October 23, 2001 - The iPod is released.
 * Between October 2001 and September 18, 2002 - The Rands' crash. Danny has an iPod. Ward is 15 (from 101). According to Jessica Stroup, Joy was 10. This is 2 years before Harold's death (from the Bulletin video) and about 15 years before the season (said throughout the show).
 * May 18, 2003 - Crazy in Love is released. Joy sang this to her father in his final months.
 * Summer before Harold's death - Joy is 12. They spend the summer in the Hamptons.
 * 2004 - Harold dies, aged 41. Joy is 13. This is 2 years after the Rands' disappearance (from the Bulletin video) and 12-13 years before the show (mentioned throughout the season).
 * December 2004 - Ward takes over the company, aged 18 (from the Bulletin video and Ward's LinkedIn).
 * February 2016 - The events of the season, 12-13 years after Harold's death, about 15 years after the Rands' crash. A paper implies in tiny print that he is 25.
 * February 2017 - Danny uses Instagram.

And currently we have it as:
 * September 19, 1986 - Ward was born.
 * Late 1990 - Joy is born.
 * April 1, 1991 - Danny is born.
 * Early 2001 - The commercial was released, 15 years before February 2016.
 * July 2001 - Danny broke his arm
 * October 23, 2001 - The iPod is released.
 * October 2001 - The Rands' crash. Danny has an iPod. Ward is indeed 15, recently turned. Joy is indeed 10, nearly 11. This is 2 years and a couple of months before Harold's death, which works as 2 years, and about 15 years before the season.
 * May 18, 2003 - Crazy in Love is released. Joy sang this to her father in his final months.
 * Summer 2003 - Joy is indeed 12, going on 13. They spend the summer in the Hamptons.
 * January 2004 - Harold dies, aged 41. Joy is indeed 13. This is 2 years and a couple of months after the Rands' disappearance, which works as 2 years, and over 12 years before the show. An interim CEO is chosen until Ward turns 18.
 * December 2004 - Ward takes over the company, now 18 (from the Bulletin video and Ward's LinkedIn).
 * February 2016 - The events of the season, over 12 years after Harold's death, about 15 years after the Rands' crash. A paper implies in tiny print that Danny is 25, but he is actually about to turn 25.
 * February 2017 - Danny uses Instagram.

If this were taken to be canon, it would end up like this:
 * September 19, 1986 - Ward is born (from Harold's keypad entry).
 * July 26, 1990 - Joy is born, ignoring Jessica Stroup saying she was 10 at the Rands' crash and stretching the idea that her and Danny are the "same age". This is another image from that gallery, and it says that Joy was born in July 1993, which is completely impossible considering she was 13 when Harold died, definitively in 2004. This is more evidence that perhaps these are not to be followed. However, the July 26th date, since we're ignoring Stroup saying Joy was 10 here, might as well be used.
 * April 1, 1992 - Danny is born. This is another image from that gallery, and while it does say 1992 on one form, another form says 1991. Again, really not sure about following this.
 * Early 2001 - The commercial is released.
 * July 2001 - Danny broke his arm.
 * October 23, 2001 - The iPod is released.
 * September 1, 2002 - The Rands' crash. Danny has an iPod. Ward is 15, about to turn 16. Joy has to be 12 (11 minimum if you were to discount the July date), going against Jessica Stroup's statement. This is a year and 4 months before Harold's death, but just about 2 years if you look at "2004 - 2002 = 2", and 14 years, which is just about manageable as "15 years", before the season.
 * May 18, 2003 - Crazy in Love is released. Joy sang this to her father in his final months.
 * July 2003 - Joy is 12, nearly 13. They spend the summer in the Hamptons.
 * January 2004 - Harold dies, aged 41. Joy is 13. This is a year and 4 months after the Rands' disappearance, just about manageable as 2 years from "2004 - 2002 = ", and over 12 years before the show.
 * December 2004 - Ward takes over the company, aged 18 (from the Bulletin video and Ward's LinkedIn).
 * February 2016 - The events of the season, over 12 years after Harold's death, about 15 years (14, just about manageable) after the Rands' crash. A paper implies in tiny print that he is 25, but he would have to be 23, going on 24.
 * February 2017 - Danny uses Instagram.
 * Punisher evidence: https://www.instagram.com/p/BZEf4CsHieI/?taken-by=thepunisher
 * User:Marvelous 345678/Netflix (2017) Shows Timeline some few stuff.
 * Edit some new stuff in the articles.