Thread:SwagMasterDbl/@comment-29362220-20171207164550/@comment-26838855-20180226013336

CirUmeUela wrote: Ok what do you think of these dates for Punisher? I tried basing this off of what you guys were saying in previous comments but couldn't line it all up correctly. Some of these I'm not sure on and some I left blank. But these are the main events we see through flashbacks:

2003 Frank marries Maria, who is 3 months pregnant (I’m guessing Frank’s daughter is 12 in the boat scene based on the actress’s age and youngest possible age that seems realistic, so I estimate she was born in 2003, which is also when Frank marries Maria)

September 2010 Frank Castle and Billy Ruso, among others are enlisted into Project Cerberus

?? Project Cerberus interrogates Ahmad Zubair, Agent Orange orders Frank Castle to kill him, he does, Frank and Gunner bury his body in an unmarked grave

November 2011 Frank looks at his birthday cards, talks to Billy Russo about only having 29 days left of service, Agent Orange orders an attack on a terrorist compound, despite suspecting an ambush they carry out the mission, many on the team are killed, Frank attacks Agent Orange and blinds him in one eye, Billy steps in to stop Frank

?? April 2015 Frank returns home for the final time. He goes on a boat ride with his kids. He and the family go to Central Park and invite Billy Russo.

October 2015 Gunner Henderson secretly sends Micro the disk that contains footage of the execution of Ahmad Zubair, he is soon forced to fake his death to protect his family

?? Schoonover and Rawlins, blaming Frank Castle for the disk leak, tip off three different gangs which results in Frank’s family getting slaughtered which almost kills Frank That's close to what we had. One clue, I think, is that in 3AM, in Frank's dreams, Maria says "It's 10:30". Now, this is not a flashback and so could be different to the actual time he woke up that day, but as we know from Penny and Dime, he was indeed absolutely exhausted, and I don't see any reason to doubt that that was the time he woke up. And we found out in Kinbaku that the massacre was at midday. They couldn't have done much between him waking up and the massacre. I don't think there's time for that boat ride or the time spent with Billy. They also refer to him being constantly about to leave again in the boat scene. That's why we ultimately placed those before the previous deployment. Since it's highly unlikely his last deployment was Afghanistan since it's 2014-15, we ignored the line about Afghanistan deployments being 15 months and we just went with an average deployment length, which is 6 months. With him returning on April 3, 2015, he would have left before in October 2014. We then placed the flashback of him teaching Lisa guitar, the boat scene, and the Billy scene all in that summer, Summer 2014.

Then, working back from that, with Nicolette Pierini being about 12.9ish when she filmed her scenes, we placed Lisa's date of birth in October 2001. He says he had been with Lisa for 3 months when she "got pregnant" with Lisa. It's hard to say if he's worked out that she became pregnant when they had been together for 3 months, or if they found out she was pregnant after 3 months together, suggesting she'd already been pregnant for about 1.5 months. She would have become pregnant with Lisa around January 2001, so they must have met around November 2001, about 2.25 (middle of 3 and 1.5) months before. They then got engaged after finding out about the pregnancy around February-March 2001. The average length of an engagement is 14.5 months, so they would have married, very roughly, around May 2002.

We placed the Zubair stuff in the middle of Cerberus, so April 2011.

And then, as explained above, Summer 2004 the guitar, boat, and Billy.

And then Frank returns home on Friday, April 3, 2015, reuniting with his daughter at her school. The next day is Saturday, April 4, 2015, and he wakes at 10:30. At 12:00, his family are in Central Park when the massacre happens. It takes "a week" (just over, 9 days) for Ellison to be allowed to write about it on April 13th, and he publishes a small article in the "April 14th" paper.

As for the Micro stuff, BardicFire helped come up with a great solution. The Castle family massacre is firmly in April 2015 from the dialogue in Kinbaku, but with The Punisher in November-December 2016 and them referring to Micro's "death" as one year ago and it being shown to have been around Hallowe'en, how can it work with Micro sending the file before the massacre? Well, he doesn't necessarily have to have done.

BardicFire's solution was that Gunner sent the disc to Micro in March/April 2015. This triggered Cerberus to hunt down Frank, thinking it was him, and the massacre occurred on April 4, 2015. Micro has the disc for 6-7 months until, around Hallowe'en 2015, he sends the file to Madani. The next day, he is shot and seemingly killed.

The Wikia Editor wrote: Finally saw Black Panther. It's a good movie. In any case, I pretty much agree the timeline placement of late June-early July 2016.

2016 was quite a year in the MCU. 2017 seems practically uneventful by comparison, although at least the upcoming netflix shows and Ant-Man and the Wasp will make the year a bit more exciting. Nice! Yeah, 2017 will fill up over time. Maurice.136 wrote: What's your guys favourite year in the MCU? Don't really have one... I guess 2015 is pretty good for the Netflix stuff, I really quite liked working out the Daredevil/Luke Cage crossover. 2016 as well I guess.