Thread:Marvelus/@comment-26838855-20190116120806/@comment-26838855-20190305030833

Runaways: Season 2 (DaenerysTheMadKhal58)
DaenerysTheMadKhal58 wrote: About Runaways, if you can fit the extra 5 days in there I think that's good, since I think it's better to stretch S2 as far as we can. Good point, thank you for your input. Looking like we're leaning towards the extra days then.

Just to be make sure I was clear before we make the final decision, what I was trying to say is "Do you think there's leniency in that Gert/Chase scene": "It is starting to feel like it's all just Tuesday now. No, wait. Wednesday. No, wait, it is Tuesday." "Think it's actually Thursday." Both chuckle.

I read it as Gert correcting him (i.e. it is Thursday), but I'm checking I'm not the only one who read it like that

Captain Marvel (Mrmichaelt)
Mrmichaelt wrote: IGN has a Captain Marvel clip "Interrogation" where Fury tells Carol a couple things about his past. Don't want to spoil them here since I'd guess that's against the rules. But glad to see we'll be learning a couple more things about him and some things to try and figure out for the timeline. Nice! Can't wait to see it on Friday.

Spider-Man: Far from Home (Marvelus)
Marvelus wrote: This might contain vital information for the Timeline Once the film is out, I'll have a look about maybe getting it if it's necessary and/or there's evidence that it could contain timeline information. Thanks for noticing it.

The Punisher: Season 2 (Nox23, Marvelus)
Nox23 wrote: BEJT wrote: [Episode 7 - One Bad Day] **Flashback: 11:23 - Monroe interviews Madani after her head injury. **"One year ago". This would suggest it is only a year since Season 1 in present day, but this can work fine with it being Spring 2018, if this is early January 2017, a couple of weeks after the end of Season 1.

Couldn't help but notice the blood coming through the bandage in this flashback and the lack of blood on her bandage in her final scene of season 1 (When Frank is told he's free to go - three days later according to the 2016 page)  It made me think that the flashback took place between the incident at the carousel and the scene at the hospital. I also feel like they would have debriefed her sooner rather than later if she's awake. Am I reading too much into that? I'm not sure if that would mean sticking the flashback within those three days or moving the scene at the end of Season 1 into January. It would make more sense that it takes Madani more than a couple of days to wake up from a headshot, though I'm far from an expert on that injury and Frank Castle himself suffered the same type of wound and we know he was basically awake pretty soon after. Just a thought. You guys of course are the masters at this stuff; I'm just trying to make sense of it in my head. OK good spot, thank you. The blood would suggest that the scene takes place earlier than the "Three days later" Memento Mori scene. Not sure about the debrief point because they'd want her to be able to have recovered enough and I'm not sure it's necessarily a debrief but rather an inquiry, but I agree the blood is an indicator. However, that scene really does have to be pushed to at least January 1st to work, and it's not the biggest leap to assume that she'd just had a fresh bandage wrapped in the Memento Mori scene and had had that bandage for a few days in the Season 2 flashback, and there's still just a bit of bleeding a couple of weeks later. It's far from ideal but I don't know, she was shot in the head, it's not just a cut. As Marvelus says...

Marvelus wrote: It was mentioned in the show that the scene took 3 days later. Yeah, that scene can't be moved, it's fixed. So you just have to make some mild assumptions I guess. The intent might well have been that that scene is set between the carousel fight and the epilogue of Memento Mori, but one has to be mid-December and one has to be early January so oh well. The flashback also has Marion saying that Frank's liberty relies on her covering up the truth, so that maybe works a bit better as it being after Frank has been given his liberty in that epilogue scene.

Reddit User (Edward Zachary Sunrose)
Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote: Not really timeline related but thought I'd share this here. He cites our Wiki and our Timeline as a major source. He's left out all of Agent Carter (show and one-shots), but he's included everything else in a chronological cut from 2006-2018 (which I guess means he also cuts out any flashback from before then). Always nice to see people using our work, thank you!

MCU Novels CirUmeUela, Edward Zachary Sunrose)
CirUmeUela wrote: So I have some notes on MCU novels. I know the canonicity of these is questionable, but I'll share my thoughts on them anyways. The only three novels that I know of which have original stories instead of rehashes are Thanos: Titan Consumed, Infinity War: the Cosmic Quest Vol One and Infinity War: the Cosmic Quest Vol Two. So these are the only ones that I have read or are reading. If there are any others, let me know please. But I couldn't find any.

The Thanos is definitely not canon as said by Marvel Studios, but the writer said he worked with Marvel Studios on it so maybe the canon backstory is something similar. I won't spoil any plot details unless someone wants me to, but from the books, it seems that Thanos is probably only 50-60 years old by the time of Infinity War, at the most. So that would make the collapse of Titan only like 30 years ago, so maybe 1990 or something.

Cosmic Quest Vol One is a story about the Collecter and the Grandmaster. I haven't finished this one yet, but it's definitely after Ragnarok. I'm curious to see if it will lead up to Thanos taking the reality stone from the Collector.

Cosmic Quest Vol Two is a story after Infinity War about Erik Selvig and Darcy mainly, but in the beginning, they aren't sure about Jane Foster's fate. They think she may have disappeared with the Decimation. I won't spoil her fate here, but if someone wants to know, I can say. The story was ok, but it was only about scientists. There was no superhero action or anything. Which is fine and could be interesting, but it was mostly just ok. Thanos: Titan Consumed is confirmed non-canon as you say, and Marvel's Avengers: Infinity War: The Heroes' Journey and Marvel's Ant-Man and the Wasp: The Heroes' Journey are also canon original stories. Like you, I'm only buying/reading the four canon original books because they seem to have a sort of higher status, and a line has to be drawn somewhere because there's a tonne of kids' books and things as well. Also novelisations tend to have canon contradictions anyway because they're based usually on the original script and not the final one.

Thanos: Titan Consumed is I guess like the inspired canon comics where it might be worth a read because it could provide some clues to the actual canon backstory, interesting that he'd only be that young. It certainly seems that he's much older considering Titan should take much longer to go from him being exiled to them dying off to the state it's in now, and that he looks identical to now back in 1995, and just the sense of the character.

Marvel's Avengers: Infinity War: The Cosmic Quest - Volume One: Beginning, like you say, from what I've heard is between Ragnarok and Infinity War. I'll be buying and reading it soon.

Marvel's Avengers: Infinity War: The Cosmic Quest - Volume Two: Aftermath, also like you say, I heard about being about the aftermath of Infinity War, which surprised me at the time. It was a bit odd to me that (until the epilogue of The Punisher: Season 2) the furthest point in the MCU timeline would not be the end of Ant-Man and the Wasp, but rather a not-widely-known Y.A. novel. I'll also be buying and reading soon.

Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote: I believe someone mentioned earlier in this thread that "The Heroes' Journey: Avengers: Infinity War", "The Heroes' Journey: Ant-Man & the Wasp", "The Cosmic Quest Volume One: Beginning" and "The Cosmic Quest Volume Two: Aftermath" are the canon novels. That was me, yeah,

CirUmeUela wrote: Thanks, I knew about those two but previously thought that they were just simple retellings. But I read some more reviews and it seems they do have new backstory, so I'll probably check those out too. Yeah, they're not just retellings. Marvel's Ant-Man and the Wasp: The Heroes' Journey is the only one I currently own, but I have a birthday coming up and have asked for the other 3, so hopefully I'll have them all and have read them all soon. I haven't had much time to read recently but will have more soon, and am a few chapters into Marvel's Ant-Man and the Wasp: The Heroes' Journey, and it appears to be a lot of "Scott is spending time with Cassie. He asks her to tell him "the Captain America story" again, and he recalls Civil War. Scott spends more time with Cassie. She talks about him being Ant-Man, and he recalls how he became Ant-Man. Hope spends time with Hank, and recalls meeting Scott." So some mostly inconsequential present-day stuff, a lot of recalling the films. But it fills in a few small gaps, like telling us about Hawkeye picking up Scott during Civil War, and has some minor timeline details. I've been taking notes as I read.

Some Links I've Picked Up Recently (additional)
I haven't had a trawl through James Gunn's posts yet to find the post Marvelus said confirmed it was set specifically in August 2014, but I happened to discover the way to search a user's Twitter timeline and found several links worth keeping for Gunn confirming 2014 and 2 months between films: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, and this old link we've used several times from Facebook that's just worth adding here to keep them together.

This suggests unlike what Jude Law said, Carol might only have been gone for 6 years. But it might be that her memories are just manipulated to only span 6 years, but she's been gone for 15. Again, I'm assuming that Monica will be a surprise to Carol, so it would have to be at least 12 years.

Carol was an air force pilot in the "1980s", so 1980 does work.

Feige, somewhat unclearly, seems to confirm 1995 here.

The Eternals might be set across millennia.

Currently watching the Captain Marvel premiere livestream, and about 47 minutes in I think, Lorraine Cink from Marvel first says this is "24 years in Ronan's past" which was a bit confusing because he died in 2014, but then says it's set "24 years" ago after, clarifying the comment and yeah, again basically confirming 1995. Not that there was much doubt after that foreign Disney website included it in the synopsis for a bit.