Thread:Marvelus/@comment-26838855-20190116120806/@comment-4021389-20190328023511

BEJT wrote:

Breakdown of the 10 Minutes Around the Snap, and Sunrise/Sunset Update (additional)
I put together a detailed timeline of the 10 minutes or so surrounding the Snap, putting everything - the events in Wakanda, the events on Titan, Thanos on Titan 2, the Fury and Hill credits scene, the Ant-Man and the Wasp credits scenes, and the ending of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. ' s The End - together in one linear order (I also might take a stab at using the work to make a split-screen side-by-side edit of the events synced up). It was out of interest, but also to help write the events in the correct order. So if anyone's interested, I thought I'd let you guys know.

Related to this, I've finally done something I'd been meaning to do for a while (I'd been putting it off due to a) inconvenient times in relation to sleep and b) the fact that it renders some work slightly wrong and I was sort of in denial). I had a look at the exact meanings of the other times on webpages about sunrise and sunset - finding out exactly what point in the sunrise/sunset process of dark-to-light and light-to-dark respectively that the labelled "sunrise" and "sunset" times mean, as well as finding out the meaning of the other times listed: "civil", "nautical", and "astronomical" sunrise and sunset.

From my observations at the listed times for where I'm living, it would appear to me that it works out as:
 * Sunrise:
 * Astronomical sunrise: Pitch black. From this point, it starts to no longer quite be pitch black.
 * Nautical sunrise: Very dark, but slightly less than pitch black.
 * Civil sunrise: Definitely some light. Not dark anymore, not bright yet. The "light of dawn" sort of time.
 * Sunrise: The time at which we hit full morning brightness.
 * Sunset (reverse):
 * Sunset: The time at which we stop having full day brightness.
 * Civil sunset: Definitely getting dark. Not light anymore, not properly dark yet. The pink dusk sort of time.
 * Nautical sunset: Very dark, but not quite pitch black.
 * Astronomical sunset: Hits pitch black.

So, where I've been using the "sunrise" and "sunset" times as the sort of day/night divider for a long time, I really should use the "civil sunrise" and "civil sunset" times as the divider point. I kind of knew what I was doing was going to turn out not quite right but was somewhat wilfully ignorant because I was a bit scared of finding out a lot of work was wrong and I had more work to do to correct it.

But I finally got around to addressing it. Since the timing choices are important due to how they fit together relatively rather than the times themselves, it should barely make a difference because, for example, Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.: Season 4 and Jessica Jones: Season 2 overlapping is just relative to the same slightly wrong time, so changing the time shouldn't change the order in most cases. So I'm not worried and you'll hopefully understand it's way down my priorities, but from now on I will implement the correct times and if I am editing something involving timings, will try to make some corrections.

This is related because some of the Infinity War timings I worked out over summer are related to sunrise and sunset times. But again, it shouldn't really make a difference since they're just relative to the same time.

I spotted a couple of slight mistakes in my working that also need correcting, which will make a tiny bit of difference, but I'm not going to do it yet. Once Infinity War ' s placement is more finalised, then I'll likely have to update the timings anyway because the date will be different so the sunrise/sunset times are different anyway. I'm just going to wait until then so I don't have to change it twice, it's very nearly dead-on now anyway so it's not really a problem. Obviously when I do update it, I'll correctly use civil sunrise/sunset this time.

Also, civil sunrise/sunset should help. The fact that it's lighter earlier than previously considered and darker later than previously considered means there's a bit more time for events to transpire between sunrise and sunset in the different time zones. I'd also like to point out that Mark Kolpack said on Twitter that [Zephyr One's max speed is Mach 3.5 (2685.44 mph / 4321.8 km/h)].

This should also make it a bit easier to calculate travel times without cramming too many events in too short of a time period.