Thread:Marvelus/@comment-27496405-20190519011243/@comment-26838855-20190720234127

Cloak & Dagger: Season 2 (Griff1361, DaenerysTheMadKhal58)
Griff1361 wrote: Cloak and Dagger S2 takes place shortly after Luke Cage S2 but before Iron Fist S2 right? DaenerysTheMadKhal58 wrote: No. C&D S2 overlaps with the second half of Iron Fist S2 (mostly in the first episode) and ends a little bit after Daredevil S3. It's mid October to early November, with a timeskip to December at the end. The dates of major events are up on the 2017 page if you want to check it out. You can also check the full dates here.

2018 (Silvguard)
Silvguard wrote: Thanks for the update on Jessica Jones.

So is this the current thinking if Jessica Jones is April/May:

Jessica Jones 3: 26 Apr-27 May 2018

Punisher 2: 28 April - 17 May 2018

Antman and Wasp 30 Apr - 6 May 2018

Agent of shield S 5  ep 14-22: 17 May -31 May 2018 (based on the 3 weeks plotted out on the 2018 timeline page notes)

Guardians of the Galaxy 2 Epilogue 23 May 2018

Cosmic Quest 1: 25 May 2018

Thor 3 Epilogue 30 May 2018

Infinity War 1: 30 May -31 May 2018 That sounds pretty correct to me, except Ant-Man and the Wasp. Ant-Man and the Wasp would be main events 29th April-2nd May, and then the three montage scenes at the end are currently placed the way they are because it only has one weekend to squeeze into, but with a 4-week gap between the main events of the film and Avengers: Infinity War, those three scenes would be more spread between 2nd May and 31st May. 11th, 19th, 26th, something like that. And obviously, I'm sure you're aware but just in case, the The Punisher epilogue is in August.

Silvguard wrote: I'm doing a watch through of April/May and noticed an error on Punisher Day A3. Interesting note, that if Jessica Jones starts in April, Jessica leaves the hospital just before the lockdown since she arrives at here appartment at 16:56. Thank you, I'll amend that. And thank you for referring to my notes!
 * 18:45 - During a session with Dr. Dumont, Billy ..., the hospital clock says 4:45 so it should be 16:45.

I haven't had a look at which days would have simultaneous The Punisher and Jessica Jones events because I couldn't think of anything that could potentially make it very unlikely that they're happening at the same time and it's not mentioned (maybe the shootout after the bank robbery in The Punisher but it's not that remarkable and could fairly feasibly be left unmentioned in Jessica Jones) so it wasn't top priority. Are you saying that Jessica would be getting back to her apartment from hospital on the same day as a hospital lockdown in The Punisher? Do we know it's the same hospital?

Good thing it works anyway, and if it's the same hospital, thanks for mentioning it - a nice little detail.

Leap (Edward Zachary Sunrose, Greater good, Marvelus, Mrmichaelt)
Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote: So Davis claims the current year is 2019. That concretely puts AoS a year and a few months after the Snap, and automatically overrides Loeb's comments about it being pre-Snap (was there ever any doubt?).

Mack also says May's been his right-hand woman for months at this point, so Season 6 has taken place over the course of months. Loved it. Loved it. I love any time that they say the year and it's spot on (like "2015" in 4,722 Hours), it's just so relaxing to have a verbal confirmation of what you say. But particularly in this situation, it's great to have something so easy to refer to to explain to people, and like "Thanos has been in my head for 6 years" it's great to hear a correct timeline statement that clears up a problem some people have been trying to justify after the mistake has happened because a) people are now paying attention, when not many people go back and rewatch, and b) it confirms that the series (the MCU films for "8 years later" and Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. for the Snap problem) is not trying to persist with some sort of problematic retcon.

Greater good wrote: ^I'm honestly starting to wonder if Loeb thinks the fans are morons. He could've got away with it in the general public if he made the comment with Jessica Jones (which, unfortunately, is the one time he hasn't), because it's not directly tied into the film timeline and most people don't pay attention to working out the exact dates. But Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. has been explicitly in line with the film timeline. He seems to be hoping people will forget the Infinity War tie-in (and many people have because I still see comments online from people trying to work out how it squeezes in before the film), but more and more fans are remembering and realising it doesn't work. It's his insistence that "it works" and him saying that it's essentially our job (the "time lords") to work it out and feed it back to him I find irritating.

Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote: Considering Season 7 is apparently supposed to happen between the Snap and the decapitation of Thanos ("before the 5-year gap in Endgame") while simultaneously being pre-Snap but after Season 6 which is also pre-Snap but in 2019, yes. He absolutely thinks we're morons. As I mentioned above, I don't think that comment about being before the 5-year gap was in any way meant as "but after the Snap", especially if you watch the clip - it's just a guy asking "Where were your characters during the 5 years?" and Loeb saying "the events you're seeing are before that". It's just consistent with his pre-Snap comments. But yes, it's annoying.

Marvelus wrote: I am very sure they know they are after the Snap but not showing it at the beginning of Season 6 was for logisitical reasons and trying to bring it now would only complicate things. I am very sure by Season 7 (in the finale) we will have an epilogue related by Simmons which will mention the Snap. Because they clearly know they are 2019, they just don't want to over complicate things by now trying to correct their previous comments. Yeah they definitely know they should be post-Snap, they're just hoping they can get away with it. And yes, it is mostly for logistical reasons and that's understandable and fine, and yes, trying to bring it in now would only complicate things. But I just wish they'd tell the truth about that and say, "It does have to have happened but won't be referred to for logistical reasons."

Your prediction about there being an epilogue in the Season 7 finale and that it will feature Simmons and that it will be about the Snap is very specific. What's your reasoning for that?

Mrmichaelt wrote: Yup, 15 minutes into the episode. When I heard that, I immediately exclaimed, "Ha!" It was great.

San Diego Comic-Con Friday Panels (additional)
I haven't been able to find the Markus and McFeely panel online, aside from a 2-minute clip, but a few things of note from the descriptions of their panel and watching the Russo panel.
 * Markus and McFeely don't want to answer anymore about the whole Steve timeline ordeal.
 * phttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGILJZok8tA&t=660s Anthony Russo understands that there's different theories about how the Cap stuff works, and Joe jokes "Don't go there". All four seem aware of the disagreement and have decided to just leave it up to audience personal interpretation for now. Anthony then goes on to talk about what could have happened if it is an alternate reality.]
 * Markus and McFeely shared an image of the Infinity Stone timelines. There's a few things in slightly the wrong order and I enjoy the two occasions where they've corrected their "6" to an "8". Anyway, this is clearly a rough whiteboard sketch. But a few things:
 * They say the Eye of Agomotto went from Kamar Taj to the New York Sanctum (which they do call the Sanctum Sanctorum) in 2016 not 2017. But note this was apparently from mid-2016, so before Doctor Strange was even finished, and most of the timeline evidence in that film is prop-related and not script-related, with the script being what they would have read (or were just informed of the events). Plus obviously the film itself indicates 2017. So this mistake really isn't a big deal.
 * They say the Power Stone was at the Triskelion from 2012 to 2013, then went to Sokovia. So the transfer in This Scepter'd Isle. Makes sense. Will have to have another read of that comic soon because I'm hazy on it and it's come up three times recently with Endgame, The Cosmic Quest Volume One, and this.
 * They say 2987 B.C. rather than 2988 B.C., but I don't think it's worth moving it and saying, "Well I guess it's 4999 years and not 5000," because I'm sure they've just made the easy mistake of doing 2013 - 5000 that the wiki even made for a while.
 * They say Odin left the Tesseract in Norway around the year 900, presumably thinking of the Thor prologue, but we know from the official timeline that it was more like 1409.
 * They say the Tesseract was at Camp Lehigh from 1945 to 2011 (again, this was done in 2016, way before the details of Captain Marvel had been worked out). The implication from this is likely that the 2011 refers to the Thor credits scene, but it's never actually said when that takes place so you could argue that it's Camp Lehigh. Or just accept it as a mistake because of Thor being 2010.