Thread:Elledy92/@comment-26838855-20190425183005/@comment-26838855-20190426165014

MJLogan95 wrote: Okay, so you're saying, by replacing the Infinity Stones to whence they were taken (or possibly right before) the new timeline ceases to exist? Yup, exactly. The timeline split in the four Time Heist points. Imagine someone drawing a line with a pencil, and then they split it into two lines. One line keeps going and going, but the other lasts only 1cm before it stops.

MJLogan95 wrote: So by replacing the Scepter whence it was taken, the timeline where 2012 Cap is told Bucky is alive & HYDRA realizing Cap knows about them is gone. See, that's one thing I wish the movies bothered to show. Like for example Steve going to Vormir & meeting fricking Red Skull (also, RS would be gone by then as his curse is gone; how does he return that stone?) How does he return the Scepter to the guys in the elevator? How does he return the Mind Stone?

How does he return the Space Stone to 1970 when Tony stole the Tesseract, brought it with him to 2023 & then destroyed it to get the stone inside? How does he return the Orb to Morag? Okay, so for the sake of canon, he just did all those things. Replace the stone, nothing really changed. Not quite. This was what I was trying to get at when I said it seems from the Ancient One scene that all you need to do is replace the stone to its time to fix things, and the exact logistics of literally returning the stone to its exact place don't matter. Just plopping it back in the right time is what cuts off that branch.

MJLogan95 wrote: Except Cap going back in time to 1947. He's always been Peg's husband, so Peggy saying Steve was dead & saved who became her new husband in 1953 is just chalked up as "Peggy says this, that, Steve's her one & only husband." I guess the pics of Peggy & her kids from TWS are Steve's kids? I'm not sure if we saw a man in those photos. Sure, if it's earlier than 1953 - which was actually my initial thought but my friend convinced me it was definitely just 1970 - he has always been Peggy's husband. Yes, when she says Steve saved the man who became her husband, she's lying - Steve is her husband (well, you could say she's not technically lying in some metaphorical way about Steve saving himself or something, whatever). And the kids would be his. You definitely don't see a man because people have wondered for the last 3 or 4 years if Sousa was this mysterious husband or not.

MJLogan95 wrote: But then that also means past Cap didn't prevent Howard Stark's death, or prevented Bucky's brainwashing & torture? Didn't prevent HYDRA? If it's the same timeline & everything played out the same way? And he just remained hidden all these years? And also, again, where'd he get the shield? Yeah he didn't, because he knows he can't, and he knows things turn out OK. Things play out exactly the same, and he remained hidden all these years, perhaps got a new identity. Clint kept his family completely hidden.

I'm saying Black Panther fixed the shield after the battle and returned it to Steve. Steve didn't have it in the 2023 scene, likely left it somewhere in the compound, and old Steve, knowing where his younger self left it, picks it up on his way to that bench.