Thread:Rodangizzardcrusher3/@comment-26687285-20160728003948

In addition to Spectre i also have some ideas on what i would have liked X-Men Origins to be. Though this procject is gonna a little more difficult, since i'm (mostly) overhauling the existing story and replacing it with a new one.

1: Make the story multi-part, perhaps a trilogy.

One of the most obvious problems with the existing film is how sloppily it tries to compress about 20 years worth of Wolverine history

The first film should have been spent setting up Logan and Victor's lives in Canada, with Logan killing both his fathers at the end of act 1. Then continue with their time in the Civil War with the Silverfox subplot being set in THAT time instead of the 70's (also, just have her be played by an actual Native-American woman!?. I don't care if that's not accurate to the comics, it's just more authentic and appealing). And make the whole thing a cool period piece (sort of like First Class).

And for god's sake, give Silverfox more than 5 freaking minutes of killing her off!, so we'll at least remember SOMETHING about her!. Also, it might've been better had they just scrapped the whole fake-death conspiracy and actually killed her off the first time. That, or find some better way to work it in.

Because honestly, there was some potentially compelling drama that could have been created with the whole "was she actually manipulating him, how could you really trust someone with those powers, etc", thing. That dynamic is very much in the spirit of the X-Men stories (i.e. Rouge), and could really have given more depth to story to make it feel like a vital part of who Logan is, instead of something that feels like it's out of a crappy romance novel. Most of which i blame on the crappy and cliché dialogue.

Then have the second film take place in WW2 Japan, (i'm skipping WW1 entirely since it added nothing to the story and was just put in there as filler. I'm honestly suprised they didn't show him at Pearl Harbor or in the Korean war as well 9.9) so as to (loosly) tie it in with the events of The Wolverine (2013).

Then segway into the Vietnam era, and having the third film take us through Logan's time with Stryker, Team X and the Weapon X project. Then toward the end, having Logan lose his DURING the Adamantium bonding process (no dumb, impractical amnesia bullets here!).

2: Make Stryker interesting again.

If this is going to be a story that shows the history of Wolverine and everyone he met, why not show Stryker's story unfold in the last film too?. Use the whole situation with him and his son as a subplot, and show how his moral code got so screwed up?. Like maybe in the beginning he's actually an honorable soldier/leutenant and a loving father to Jason. Then as the story progresses, he is completely broken down by all the traumatic things he goes through, (namely Jason driving his wife to kill herself) and he slowly becomes the corrupt, hatefull and sadistic man he was in X2.

You could even show how he became so influential in the governement by that film, by having him be (wrongfully) rewarded for averting some kind of event here?. We need to fear him, but also understand where he's coming from. X2 handeled this masterfully, and this film should have tried much harder to do that character justice.

3: Weapon XI (assuming we want to keep him in the movie).

I'm probably in the minority in thinking he was actually kinda cool, especially the bandages around his wrists (it sucks that he didn't wear those during the fight). Does he look stupid and cheesy?, yes. Was this a dumb and counter-intuitive creative decision?, sure. However, does he work as an appealing and flashy opponent for Wolvie?, actually, (in the context of this film) i would say yes. Personally, i don't think there is anything particularly awful about him, especially given how simplistic and flat the rest of the movie is. To me, he's just one more thing that makes the film a dumb, semi-mindless blockbuster action flick. And i rather like the idea of a kind of mutant Frankenstein's monster.

However, i agree that it was a mistake to apply this change to a character like Deadpool. Cause now he's SO far removed from what he's supposed to be that you've basically changed the very core of the character. Plus, the katana swords (while they make sense, and are pretty cool as weapons) look kinda silly coming out of his hands like that. As well as the fact that (as pretty much everyone has pointed out) they would NEVER fit inside his arms like that.

I think this idea would have worked alot better and made more sense if they had applied this change to Agent Zero, since he was pretty much Stryker's lapdog anyway. So he would logically be willing to undergo such an operation in order to become the ultimate killing machine. Also, he had an already established rivalry with Logan, so obviously he'd jump at the chance to cut him down to size. Or maybe make Weapon XI a humanoid robot or machine?. Sort of a precursor to the Sentinels. That way you could have the mouthless look and the multpile superpowers without pissing off 99% of your fanbase, and you wouldn't have to worry about the action being too gory.

But hey, that's just my opinion.

Notes: 1: I'm ok with keeping the Kuekuatsu myth in there as an explanation for Logan's name, if they had expanded on it more. Maybe Logan is told that story when he meets Kayla's family (think Kekata's vision from Pocahontas) and begins to identify with the spirit, as he feels that his own nature is part animal. Then when Kayla is killed by Sabertooth, he is so determened to seek revenge that he (and by extention the audience) begin to question how different he and Victor really are. In this way the myth could add a more layered and psychological element to the story, as opposed to a silly and contrived explanation for how Logan got his nickname.

2: We also need to see how and why Logan and Victor become enemies, and why Victor kills Kayla. We need to understand what makes them tick, and why they decide to go down separate paths.

For example, there's an alternate version of the scene where Victor confronts Stryker after Logan learns of Kayla's survival. Here Logan willingly undergoes a procedure to erase his memory, prompting Victor to ask Stryker whether or not he'll remember him?. This is the first time in the entire film that Victor has shown signs of attachment, which is something i'd like to use in my version.

P.S. Oh, and also, NO FREAKING Will.I.Am!. He stinks!. 