Thread:SwagMasterDbl/@comment-29362220-20171207164550/@comment-26838855-20180219171527

Hey Mister Explicit, this was what I thought: BEJT wrote: I have seen Black Panther, and it's really good! Flawed in the second half and slightly too simplistic in its story for me, but cultural and beautiful and has really great characters.

Timeline is mostly alright. Nothing contradicting a 2016 placement, aside from two similar vague lines of dialogue which would imply that we're a couple of years later than 2016 but a) it's not very specific and b) it's not really a problem. The film begins a week after T'Chaka's death, so June 29, 2016, and spans only about 9 days to July 9, 2016. There's lots of mentions of "tomorrow" and "yesterday" and "hours ago" and things which I remember working out while watching left no gap at all for a potential time jump, except for the last scene and then the credits scenes.

'''Here, as usual, I have made my full notes and written them in a cryptic manner that is understandable if you've seen it, but doesn't mean anything if you have not. This is in an attempt to not give away spoilers. However, if you wish to not have any idea of the order of events, don't read it in too much detail. I have omitted the credits scenes as well. I have tried to remember the order of events, but some things might be slightly off.'''

Firstly, as if making notes as you go:


 * Vibranium.
 * The story of vibranium on Earth over the millions of years. Not sure that there's any easy ways to place the important points.


 * Oakland, California.
 * 1992. An event, which I'll refer to non-spoilery as "The Wakanda Event", happened recently.

- - - - Potential break a - - - - - - - - Potential break b - - - - - - - - Potential break c - - - - - - - - Potential break d - - - - - - - - Potential break e - - - - - - - - Potential break f - - - - - - - - Potential break g - - - - - - - - Potential break h - - - - - - - - Potential break i - - - - - - - - Potential break j - - - - - - - - Potential break k - - - -
 * BBC News on the plane.
 * It says "present day". 2016 is fine though, present day is a bit vague.
 * The BBC News presenter says it has been a week since T'Chaka died. T'Chaka's death was in the daytime in Vienna on June 22, 2016, and England is only 1 hour behind, so it was June 22, 2016 there as well. This means it is June 29, 2016 around daytime in England, and Wakanda would be about 3 hours ahead. It is the night there, so June 29, 2016 night, around 23:45, meaning in New York it is about June 29, 2016 15:45ish.
 * Sambisa.
 * "I will be crowned king tomorrow." T'Challa's coronation is tomorrow (by Wakanda time), so will be June 30, 2016 Wakanda.
 * Ramonda and Shuri.
 * Morning, so this is the next day by Wakanda time, June 30, 2016. Roughly 06:30 Wakanda, making it about 29th 22:30 New York.
 * Museum of Great Britain.
 * This scene is in London. I didn't get a chance to catch any number plates, but there's a possibility that there's a significant number plate for the timeline.
 * Item from Bobo Ashanti, present day Ghana, 19th century.
 * Item from Edo people of Benin, 16th century.
 * Item white people took from Benin in 7th century.
 * Time (not date) shown on-screen, but can't remember.
 * Dancing.
 * Coronation. "Yield."
 * This is the day after Sambisa, so still June 30, 2016 by Wakanda time, meaning the Museum of Great Britain was also June 30, 2016 locally. London, likely at least 09:00 locally, making it 12:00 in Wakanda and about 04:00 New York. This means the coronation is at least 12:00 Wakanda (01:00 New York).
 * Buried.
 * Flashback shown with T'Challa around 10 (actor's age) and T'Chaka looking the same as in 1992. I'll do the maths later.
 * Market.
 * Rhino paddock. Called to throne room.
 * Briefing in the throne room.
 * "A misidentified Wakandan artefact was stolen yesterday." Museum of Great Britain scene was yesterday, so Potential breaks a/b are no longer potential breaks. That was roughly June 30, 2016 12:00 Wakanda, it is now around July 1, 2016 12:00 Wakanda/July 1, 2016 04:00 New York.
 * "We have learned Ulysses Klaue plans to sell vibranium to an American buyer in South Korea tomorrow night." Busan is tomorrow, so will be July 2, 2016 by Wakanda time.
 * "Escaped our pursuits for almost 30 years." Almost 30 years since the event I'm calling "The Wakanda Event". This would imply that it's more like the late 2010s. I think though that in the 1992 scene it is only implied that The Wakanda Event was recent, but it was not necessarily in 1992. If it were in 1992, it's only been 24 years, which isn't really "almost 30". However, if we assume that the 1992 scene is around January and The Wakanda Event is around 1991 then we've pushed it to 25 years, or 1990, then it's 26, or even around December 1989, just over 2 years before the 1992 scene, which would mean it has been 3 decades but only 26.5 years, which would work well. I'll have to watch again and I'll have to do some maths for the 1992 scene based on actor ages and this dialogue.
 * Shuri's lab.
 * "I wanted to go old school for my first day." Still T'Challa's first day since coronation.
 * Casino.
 * This is the day after the briefing, so July 2, 2016 by Wakanda time. If it is around 16:00 Wakanda, this makes it about 22:00 Busan.
 * Weirdly, T'Challa refers to Ross as an "old friend", when he met him like 9 days ago/last saw him about 8 days ago.
 * Kinetic energy.
 * Interrogation.
 * This is the day after "Kinetic energy", so July 3, 2016 Busan.
 * What Is Love by Haddaway exists in the MCU.
 * Time (not date) shown on-screen, but can't remember.
 * "Bit late."
 * "Fix him."
 * Back to Wakanda.
 * "Great, another broken white boy for us to fix."
 * Shuri's dialogue somewhat implies that they've already treated Bucky, but it's possible that they maybe treated Steve and Bucky briefly before this film before the Civil War credits scene, which we know is after the film.
 * "For 30 years your father was in power and did nothing." W'Kabi says that T'Chaka lived for 30 years after "The Wakanda Event". Again, might have to assume "The Wakanda Event" is 1989ish-early 1990s to make "30 years" more realistic.
 * Roughly 6254 miles, at least 3-4 hours of flight in a Wakandan jet.
 * Planes.
 * T'Challa and Zuri.
 * "There was a man today." "Bit late" was earlier that day, meaning Potential breaks c/d/e are no longer potential breaks. This means that "Interrogation" and "Bit late" are also July 3, 2016 Wakanda, meaning they have to be minimum 06:00 locally to be minimum 00:00 Wakanda. This means they happen around the afternoon of the 2nd in New York. It is now night in Wakanda, making it early afternoon of July 3rd in New York.
 * Arrive at the border.
 * At least 10-11 hours of flight in a private plane.
 * "Coloniser!"
 * "Bit late" was yesterday, meaning Potential breaks f/g are no longer potential breaks and it is now July 4, 2016 Wakanda.
 * "You get to decide what kind of king you are going to be."
 * Discussing Killmonger.
 * Graduated Annapolis aged 19. MIT for grad school. Joined the S.E.A.L.s and went straight to Afghanistan.
 * "I want the throne."
 * Waterfall.
 * Loyalty.
 * "Arrive at the border" was hours ago (the same day), meaning it is now the night of July 4, 2016 in Wakanda/early afternoon New York. Potential breaks h/i are no longer potential breaks.
 * Collect Ross.
 * Lays down.
 * Shuri and Ramonda.
 * Buried again.
 * Nakia sneaks.
 * Burn it all.
 * Throne.
 * It is now the morning in Wakanda, so July 5, 2016 locally, the night of 4th-5th New York.
 * Mountains.
 * Vegetarians.
 * Night again, so July 5, 2016 night locally, around midday New York.
 * Bury in snow.
 * Update.
 * Morning again, so July 6, 2016 locally, the night of 5th-6th New York.
 * No lives.
 * "I never yielded"
 * Flying the ship.
 * Shuri attacks.
 * Into the Mound.
 * Sonic.
 * Shields.
 * "Now get out of there."
 * "My love."
 * Sunset.
 * Sunset Wakanda time (using Turkana, Kenya from the map in Captain America: Civil War). 18:51 July 6th, meaning 10:51 New York.
 * Nakia.
 * Seemingly the next day, July 7th Wakanda.
 * Outreach.
 * Unclear. Been enough time to buy some buildings and set a scheme into motion, I'd say at least a week.

And now reordered in chronological order with times:
 * Vibranium.
 * c. 650 - Item white people took from Benin in 7th century.
 * c. 1550 - Item from Edo people of Benin, 16th century.
 * c. 1850 - Item from Bobo Ashanti, present day Ghana, 19th century.
 * c. 1954 - T'Chaka is born.
 * Have to do the exact maths based on flashbacks and actor ages.
 * c. 1976 - T'Challa is born.
 * Have to do the exact maths based on flashbacks and actor ages.
 * c. July 1983 - Killmonger is born.
 * From rough maths. Have to do the exact maths based on flashbacks and actor ages.
 * c. 1987 - Young T'Challa and T'Chaka.
 * Have to do the exact maths based on flashbacks and actor ages.
 * c. December 1989 - What I will refer to as "The Wakanda Event".
 * Have to do the maths, but this seems like the best option.
 * c. January 1992 - Oakland, California.
 * Have to do the exact maths.
 * May 8, 1993 - What Is Love by Haddaway.
 * c. September 1999 - Shuri born.
 * Supposedly 16 in Black Panther. With Letitia Wright's age, likely in the later end of 16.
 * c. 2002 - Erik Stevens graduates Annapolis.
 * c. 2005 - Erik joins the S.E.A.L.s and goes to Afghanistan.

June 29, 2016

 * 15:45 New York/23:45 Sambisa - Wakanda BBC News on the plane.
 * 15:50 New York/23:50 Sambisa - Sambisa.
 * 22:30 New York/30th 06:30 Wakanda - Ramonda and Shuri.

June 30, 2016

 * 04:00 New York/09:00 London - Museum of Great Britain.
 * 07:20 New York/15:20 Wakanda - Dancing.
 * 07:40 New York/15:40 Wakanda - Coronation. "Yield."
 * 11:00 New York/19:00 Wakanda - Buried.

July 1, 2016

 * 02:00 New York/10:00 Wakanda - Market.
 * 03:00 New York/11:00 Wakanda - Rhino paddock.
 * 04:00 New York/12:00 Wakanda - Briefing in the throne room.
 * 10:00 New York/18:00 Wakanda - Shuri's lab.

July 2, 2016

 * 08:00 New York/16:00 Wakanda/22:00 Busan - Casino.
 * 08:15 New York/16:15 Wakanda/22:15 Busan- Kinetic energy.
 * 20:00 New York/3rd 04:00 Wakanda/3rd 10:00 Busan - Interrogation.
 * 20:10 New York/3rd 04:10 Wakanda/3rd 10:10 Busan - "Bit late."
 * 20:15 New York/3rd 04:15 Wakanda/3rd 10:15 Busan - "Fix him."
 * 23:00 New York/3rd 07:00 Wakanda - Back to Wakanda.

July 3, 2016

 * 00:00 New York/08:00 Wakanda - "Great, another broken white boy for us to fix."
 * 05:00 New York/13:00 Wakanda/19:00 South Korea - Planes.
 * 13:00 New York/21:00 Wakanda - T'Challa and Zuri.
 * 23:00 New York/4th 07:00 Wakanda - Arrive at the border.
 * 23:30 New York/4th 07:30 Wakanda - "Coloniser!"

July 4, 2016

 * 00:00 New York/08:00 Wakanda - "You get to decide what kind of king you are going to be."
 * 00:30 New York/08:30 Wakanda - Discussing Killmonger.
 * 01:00 New York/09:00 Wakanda - "I want the throne."
 * 06:00 New York/14:00 Wakanda - Waterfall.
 * 07:00 New York/15:00 Wakanda - Fisherman (mentioned).
 * 11:00 New York/19:00 Wakanda - Loyalty.
 * 11:30 New York/19:30 Wakanda - Collect Ross.
 * 12:00 New York/20:00 Wakanda - Lays down.
 * 12:00 New York/20:00 Wakanda - Shuri and Ramonda.
 * 12:05 New York/20:05 Wakanda - Buried again.
 * 12:10 New York/20:10 Wakanda - Nakia sneaks.
 * 12:15 New York/20:15 Wakanda - Burn it all.

July 5, 2016

 * 01:35 New York/09:35 Wakanda - Throne.
 * 07:45 New York/15:45 Wakanda - Mountains.
 * 16:40 New York/6th 00:40 Wakanda - Vegetarians.
 * 16:50 New York/6th 00:50 Wakanda - Bury in snow.
 * 23:00 New York/07:00 Wakanda - Update.
 * 23:05 New York/07:05 Wakanda - No lives.

July 6, 2016

 * 10:30 New York/18:30 Wakanda - "I never yielded"
 * 10:35 New York/18:35 Wakanda - Flying the ship.
 * 10:35 New York/18:35 Wakanda - Shuri attacks.
 * 10:40 New York/18:40 Wakanda - Into the Mound.
 * 10:40 New York/18:40 Wakanda - Sonic.
 * 10:45 New York/18:45 Wakanda - Shields.
 * 10:45 New York/18:45 Wakanda - "Now get out of there."
 * 10:50 New York/18:50 Wakanda - "My love."
 * 10:51 New York/18:51 Wakanda - Sunset.

July 7, 2016

 * 02:00 New York/10:00 Wakanda - Nakia.

c. July 14, 2016
I didn't include the credits scenes there, but I think I can say now.
 * Outreach.

The first I'd guess is around mid-July 2016, and the second could really be anywhere between February, when the Infinity War Prelude comic roughly places Shuri thinking she's nearly there with Bucky, and Infinity War. It depends on whether there's a hint of how long Bucky's been awake for in Infinity War, but I'd guess spring 2017 for now.