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Different Easy/Simple Timelines (CirUmeUela, Jazz2405, Chimadino, LordDusty)
CirUmeUela wrote: LordDusty, this might also be something similar to what you are looking for. This is a timeline I am making (still in progress) that attempts to place everything in exact chronological order, including flashbacks, with time stamps included. It is based on this wiki's timeline. I think some other users have similar timelines. Keep up the good work, CirUmeUela. Good to take a look at that project again.

Jazz2405 wrote: heres a calander i did of 2016 of this timline. ive done the other years aswell Chimadino wrote: Can you post the other years here too? The image has unfortunately been taken down, as it is not from any Marvel media, so counts as the same sort of thing as fan art. Jazz2405 will have to just stick to links.

LordDusty wrote: BEJT, that blog table as a timeline would be really useful, thank you.

CirUmeUela, I've been using this wiki as well to put together my own timeline. As I said it can be quite tough sometimes to find exact dates of individual episodes and particular scenes, especially if differents shows/films overlap date wise. It's particularly difficult when I haven't yet seen certain shows. For example not having Netflix and the DVD releases having dried up sometime last summer has put me back quite a bit, and still wanting a full timeline but not wanting to spoil too much for myself can be quite difficult looking on here. I'll get to it soon-ish, but not in the next couple of months I imagine. Will try to update my IMDb list fairly soon though, sounds like it's the kind of thing which might help you.

Jazz2405 wrote: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1wD-LT7Srg4Gu5TQAHUOgmfxGBhSJm8my?usp=sharing here you are Chimadino help yourself. Great work Jazz2405, and thank you for trusting our work.

What If...? and Alternate Timelines/Universes (CirUmeUela, ProBot1227, Marvelus, ProBot1227, Chimadino)
CirUmeUela wrote: I've been thinking, when What If... comes out, will each episode be treated as an alternate timeline and placed on the timeline pages? We already have the alternate timeline from AoS Season 6 on there. Also, hypothetically, if, say, Tom Hardy's Venom crossed over into the MCU through an interdimensional portal, or some other character in an alternate reality, would the events of that movie like the Venom movie be placed on the timeline pages as well? I'm not worrying about What If...? now, because we don't know exactly how it will be handled. I'm sure the events will indeed be placed somewhere on timeline pages, but whether it's in columns or their own pages or whatever, we'll see. My general approach with the current divergent timelines (though those are time travel related splits in the universe rather than just hypothetical other similar universes) is that if there's just a small-ish chunk of events, it can go side-by-side in columns on the normal page, but if you get into whole separate years (like 2091-2091 for Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.) of that timeline it can have its own page, like the awaiting-rename 2091 page supposed to cover 2019-2091 of that timeline. But yeah, we'll see, and we'll see how the wiki chooses to handle these things in general.

A Venom crossover set in the MCU is highly unlikely. I was scared before that it might happen without Marvel Studios wanting it, through Sony using Tom Holland in their film just because they own him. But now Spider-Man is out of the MCU, while it's likely he'll appear in some Sony's Universe of Marvel Characters films, they will be disconnected. Anyway, that's definitely a case of "cross that bridge when we come to it", and we'll likely never come to it.

ProBot1227 wrote: Yeah, since it's in PHASE 4 it's probably canon within the Marvel Cinematic Universe side of the multiverse. I'm pretty sure Sony wanted their Sony's Universe of Marvel Characters to be Marvel Cinematic Universe adjacent. Now that they have Spider-Man, they've achieved that, meaning they have no reason to crossover through a portal, so we don't have to worry about that. If it did happen, yes we would. Before SDCC, the story with What If...? was that it would be called Marvel's What If...? (indicating not part of the phases) and be a non-canon set of stories, but obviously after SDCC it had become properly Phase Four and canon, just not canon to the main universe, which definitely reduced my excitement, because it makes it all so much messier and there's far too much multiverse stuff going on in Phase Four in my opinion. But yes, it's canon in the regard of the MCU ' s related universes. Marvelus wrote: CirUmeUela, what alternate universe had AoSS6?

ProBot1227, sorry, but Sony movies are non canon. ProBot1227 wrote: I never said they were. Chimadino wrote: Most likely. Chimadino wrote: Anyways, how did Loki create another timeline with the Teserract? Are Infinity Stones capable of creating alternative universes/timelines? He didn't. He was already in an another timeline when he escaped with the Tesseract.

The Infinity Stones create alternate timelines if you remove one from a timeline, but seemingly not just out of choice by wielding one (maybe the Time Stone, Mordo did say time manipulation can cause branch timelines).

CirUmeUela wrote: Marvelus, I'm referring to the alternate future where Earth is destroyed and they go to 2091, it's listed as the original timeline on the wiki Marvelus wrote: Oh, is because in your OM you wrote "alternate timeline seen in AoS*6*" CirUmeUela wrote: Oh yes, I meant Season 5, whoops No worries. I think Marvelus was just worried about it being another case of people thinking Season 6 is in an alternate timeline because it doesn't address the Snap.

Selvig (Chimadino, Edward Zachary Sunrose, TheVultureKnight)
Chimadino wrote: Yeah, but a lot of sites say he was snapped, even the Marvel Database, which I visited a few days ago. Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote: Yes, and Marvel Database can be edited by anyone, just like this site. Not everyone reads the tie-in materials because most don't think they're important, but they are for exactly these kinds of revelations. Exactly.

Chimadino wrote: A ton of sites say he was snapped, even offical sites. I know many news sites reported on it when the TV spot came out that showed him among those characters, most not aware of The Cosmic Quest Volume Two: Aftermath. What they are reporting is essentially "Avengers: Endgame implies Erik Selvig was killed in the Snap", something no one is disputing. They're not reporting "We have heard from Marvel Studios that Erik Selvig is among the characters killed in the Snap".

If, when you say official sites, you are referring to something like an official biography on Marvel's website - that sort of level of authority - sure. But most of the sites I imagine you are referring to are news sites, who are reporting the Avengers: Endgame scene's content, not the deeper truth of the matter.

TheVultureKnight wrote: Which official sites? Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote: Even official sites can be incorrect. Marvel.com directly states in MCU Odin's biography that Frigga is Hela's mother. When I added it and cited it to the appropriate pages, the information was removed.

So official sites saying Selvig was snapped only makes this subject more confusing, they certainly don't give a conclusive answer. And I would definitely like to see which official sites have mentioned this. Right, wow, even Marvel.com can get it wrong, depending on who is writing the bios and might make an assumption that they don't realise is at all disputed. It might not even have crossed the writer's mind that Hela might not be Frigga's daughter, so they just put it on there because they thought it was fact from the content of the films. Someone might do a similar thing with Selvig, just not aware that it was in any way disputed. But still, if the source is something like Marvel.com, sure, it's an important factor. But pretty much anything less is not an official Marvel source, just a news site reporting that Avengers: Endgame implies he was killed.

No response from Snider on Twitter, so I sent him the same thing but to his email, yesterday. Really hoping he responds.

Eternals (additional)
Forgot to mention, but at D23 Feige confirmed that Eternals indeed spans thousands of years, as well as that Sprite is 7000 years old, trapped in a 12-year-old body.