Thread:Marvelous 345678/@comment-27496405-20180723185324/@comment-26838855-20181217072659

Captain Marvel (Edward Zachary Sunrose, Mrmichaelt)
Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote: On Fury, the Kree that is used for TAHITI is from at least the 1940's and was with HYDRA (that was actually never explained... Hmm...), so he doesn't really need to keep one, but rather just simply see one and realize he has one in storage. After all, if his only exposure to the Kree is Carol, or even someone like Jude Law (who is a Pink-Skinned Kree), then he wouldn't make the connection. But if he sees a blue one, he'll realize he has one of them in storage. Then again, he isn't director yet, so he may not know about G.H. just yet.

And as for Coulson, his memories of T.A.H.I.T.I. were wiped, and unless I'm mistaken, he's never fully recovered them, as he didn't remember he was in charge of the program until he found evidence of it (or was it May who revealed it to him?). He could've easily been forced to forget all about the Kree.

So far nothing from the movie contradicts the show. Concerning the Kree, at least. Coulson and Fury might both have major conflicts with the information given to us about Fury in Winter Soldier, and Coulson's history given to us in Agents of SHIELD. You're right, G.H. was found by Hydra in the 1940s, I forgot. Thanks.

Yeah, there's a good chance Fury doesn't know about G.H. in 1995.

That could definitely work as a no-prize explanation for the plot hole, that Coulson had all memories related to Kree wiped, thanks for that thought! Especially if he sees that Kree have healing properties in Captain Marvel, Fury wouldn't want him remembering that when trying to make him forget about his resurrection.

Mrmichaelt wrote: Since I posted, it's been reported that scene of upside down Carol is the Skrulls probing her mind so it could be both sides messing with her memories. Oh OK cool. We'll see soon enough.

Spider-Man: Far from Home (Mrmichaelt)
Mrmichaelt wrote: Minor note, CCXP was 2016. Then I believe the 2nd trailer was Cinemacon on March 28, 2017. So we could see the second Far From Home trailer between April 1-4, 2019. Perhaps, April 2nd as that's the second day in the 2019 one. My bad, I was tired. I meant 2016.

The trailer's coming this week, anyway, apparently. Very surprised they waited until after the release of Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse, but apparently Sony just really wanted to distance themselves from the Endgame trailer. Understandable, I mean, it's literally the most successful trailer of all time.

All the Comforts of Home (Mrmichaelt)
Mrmichaelt wrote: Well, I mean... wouldn't "live" still show up if you taped it? True, true, if it were taped and not just a repeat. So yeah, thanks, that gives another possible explanation - either the running just happens in December in the MCU, or it's been taped and is being shown again.

Principia (Mrmichaelt)
Mrmichaelt wrote: Got the Blu-ray, checked scenes in Principia, still inconclusive. But after some pausing and staring, I'm more convinced it's a blurry "12-1?-2017" more than an "2018" in the timestamp. This is honestly worst than going to the eye doctor. Alright thanks. That's interesting, if it says "12-1?-2017" that's actually really good and supports the current placement just moving it a few days up. Maybe we'll just do that.

Ant-Man and the Wasp (Mrmichaelt)
Mrmichaelt wrote: Is there the possibility that the "4/30" timestamp will just be discounted? Devil's advocate, it's a little harder to, because well, all the rationalization that you did AND filming of the movie was August to November 2017 -- so there's no overlap (i.e. they filmed the scene on April 30 and just didn't alter it on the laptop) to discount. Well yeah, we're currently ignoring it. The problem with Ant-Man and the Wasp is that it's at the end of Scott's 2-year house arrest sentence following Civil War, suggesting at least June 2018 - not so much the April laptop date in particular.

Yes, that date is weird, because it's not a filming date. My guess before was that they went, "Well, Infinity War is coming out in early May 2018" (would've been when they were filming) "and these films are set about when they come out so it'll be set around early May 2018 and this is set a bit before that so let's programme the laptop to say late April 2018. It'll be about right."

One-Shots Turning into Disney+ (Mrmichaelt)
Mrmichaelt wrote: Did some more digging. So the link I mentioned was March 17, 2016. The Russo Brothers were asked if the One-Shots would ever come back and they hinted it could by an online outlet, namely YouTube. They said, "We have gone through a little bit of a transition with that content... we are thinking, very specifically, about to do new ways of [extras] with Avengers: Infinity War. We're just in the beginning phases of figuring them out. Yes, DVD's are gone, but there is this wonderful platform out there called YouTube... There can be more elaborate versions of trailers... that are shot specifically for online that will never appear in the movie but that may appear as a kind of short film." Then on June 18, 2017, Holland mentioned Marvel was planning more One-Shots - saying, "I think they are planning on doing [one-shot shorts] again. I probably just spoiled a big spoiler. Kevin Feige's probably going to be furious." Then on October 23, 2017, Eric Pearson said he heard whispers of it coming back. "I think probably the drop in Blu-ray sales has hurt the One-Shots program -- though I've heard whispers of it starting up again. I can't confirm that at all, but I've definitely heard whispers of it. And I have a whole folder full of other One-Shots that I just came up with. And I was like, 'Oh, this will be a fun eight to 12 pages!" And the next day, Waititi said their was talk of a Korg and Miek One-Shot. And lastly on April 26, 2018, D'Esposito said Disney wanted them to do more.

I think somewhere along the line, someone realized let's just do the Disney+ series like extended One-Shots and the two parths sorta merged. Oh cool, good research. Yeah I agree then, there's a good chance what they were talking about evolved into the Disney+ series.

Hulu (Mrmichaelt)
Mrmichaelt wrote: I don't know. If they wanted another series, wouldn't they have picked up New Warriors - the show whose pilot that really impressed executives supposedly? Oh I'm sure they're not going to save the Netflix series - and now there's also those reports that Netflix have control of the characters for 2 more years - all I was saying is that I'm going to just hold on to a 0.01% hope to not just get really sad about the realistic situation that Charlie may never play Matt again.

S.H.I.E.L.D.'s 2017 Downfall (Mrmichaelt)
Mrmichaelt wrote: Yeah, that's a good point. It morphed from the USAF manhunt led by Hale to Quasi-not-HYDRA-kinda-still-posing-as-USAF manhunt led by Hale. But I'm pretty sure there was that bit where Daisy, I think, found out they were on all the agency most wanted lists after they returned to the future. No you're right, they were in trouble from May 2017 until early 2018. I was just explaining the most likely reasons that had caused me to forget.

Time Vortices (Mrmichaelt)
Mrmichaelt wrote: I still a little skeptical that line was a red herring for Endgame but a set up line to be explored in a later movie in Phase 4. I'd love it if it were a red herring😂. But yeah I think it will come into play. Peyton Reed hinted that as well on the The Empire Film Podcast spoiler special.

Endgame Time Since Infinity War (Mrmichaelt)
Mrmichaelt wrote: Right, plus, you'd think Tony spaced out the rations and there's the notion of documented cases of how long people have gone without eating if they have proper hydration. I think in the very least, a couple weeks. Doesn't help that Thor stole a bunch of food from the Benatar😂. But yeah I think we're looking at this trailer showing events from a week or so after Infinity War up to a few months after or maybe even 1 year (some could be earlier in that range, some could be later, could be spread, could be all together, whatever), before a possible jump/montage of some kind of maybe a few more years.

"Timeline" Page (Shabook)
Obviously I've responded to all of this already but just to say to Shabook (if he's reading) and to everyone else, I've spent the last few days working on that page, making 180+ edits, and am very happy with the work that's been done and the state of the page now. Obviously one significant thing has been undone so far (Agent Carter, I tried to make the objectively correct edit putting them side-by-side but that didn't hold unfortunately), and there will be more to go, but I hope that the work is appreciated. It's a bit rushed but it's a massive improvement on the page, making tonnes of corrections and additions and making the page, which is consistently in the top viewed pages on this wiki, more correct, full, and informative. I'm very grateful for the opportunity, thank you. And Shabook, if you're reading, I'll say again that I'm so sorry for whenever you take me to have been spreading lies about you or anything like that, and that that's never my intention. I always try to be fair and reasonable and polite and take the time to understand and spread the correct message, and it's never my intention to lie or be rude or anything. It makes me sad to be perceived like that.

Thanks again.

Runaways: Season 2 (Mrmichaelt)
Mrmichaelt wrote: Episode 11 of Runaways season 2 has them throwing a quinceañera for Molly so the season does end in 2018 and Molly turns 15. So it looks all good with the wanted poster promi image reflecting the Runaways' ages in 2017, which had Molly as 14. Oh cool thanks. Molly's the only one whose age I wasn't unsure about but it'll be nice to have a pretty good idea of her birthday.

Iron Fist: Season 2/Daredevil: Season 3 (additional)
OK guys, I've come to conclusions. I'll get more specific in the coming days (I'm in a hurry right now), but the way Iron Fist: Season 2 and Daredevil: Season 3 work appears to me to be: This fits with the weather numbers shown in Daredevil: Episode 7, which suggested October 26th. This fits with the days of the week (I'll go into that more later). It means that Daredevil: Episode 2, with the attack on Fisk's convoy (big New York news), falls in the gap between Iron Fist: Episodes 7 and 8 so isn't a problem. It means that the first public return of Daredevil, in Episode 6, falls just as Danny heads off on his plane, so there's no clash with Matt's return. It makes sense for why Misty is still considering the offer to be chief and why she hasn't seen Luke since the end of Season 2 - it's only been a month-and-a-half. It's as late as possible in the year to fit as best as possible with the winter weather shown in both and to get Iron Fist as close as possible to its ideal early 2018 placement, while still falling before the November 7, 2017 DA election (They Reminisce Over You very much suggests the early-to-mid-November election dates do stand in the U.S.). It's only just before the iPhone X release date (I also don't know for sure that both feature iPhone Xs but I've heard this from other people). It means they're planning the Spring Fair 3-and-a-half months early, which is far from ideal but not impossible - it's like starting to plan a big event for Christmas in September. It allows the chronological order of the Netflix series (as well as the strong implication in Iron Fist that Matt is still presumed dead) to stand, just with some overlap like Daredevil: Season 2 and Luke Cage: Season 1. It allows the "months later" Iron Fist epilogue to take place before Infinity War, like we've been told. Overall, it's not ideal, but this works best. And yeah, I'll go into more detail soon.
 * June 30, 2016 - Matt wakes up.
 * c. November 2016 - Orphans.
 * c. April 2017 - Matt's apartment.
 * September 24, 2017 - Donovan visits Fisk (middle of Daredevil: Episode 1).
 * October 3-7, 2017 - Iron Fist: Episodes 1-3.
 * October 8, 2017 - Lantom agrees to find Matt an opponent/Iron Fist: Episode 4.
 * October 9-20, 2017 - Iron Fist: Episodes 5-7.
 * October 22-23, 2017 - End of Daredevil: Episode 1, Daredevil: Episode 2.
 * October 24, 2017 - Beginning of Iron Fist: Episode 8/Daredevil: Episode 3.
 * October 25, 2017 - Iron Fist: Episode 8/Daredevil: Episode 4.
 * October 26, 2017 - Iron Fist: Episode 9/Daredevil: Episode 5.
 * October 27, 2017 - Iron Fist: Episode 10/Daredevil: Episode 6.
 * October 28-November 3, 2017 - Daredevil: Episodes 7-13.