Thread:Marvelus/@comment-26838855-20190116120806/@comment-2112031-20190512143440

BEJT wrote:

It irked me in Into the Spider-Verse as well😂.

My justification is that there's sub-multiverses within a multiverse, even if that doesn't really make sense. Basically in the way a galaxy is to a universe, a sub-multiverse is within a multiverse.

Marvel as an entire brand has a multiverse, encompassing the comics, films, TV, audio dramas, whatever else. However, there's sort of clusters of universes, like how a universe has galaxies which are clusters of solar systems, or how a galaxy has solar systems which are clusters of planets. The comic universes are in one cluster which can be named as the "Earth-616 cluster", named after its main universe, Earth-616. The MCU multiverse is the "Earth-199999 cluster", named after its main universe, Earth-199999. However, within that cluster, the same way we just call our solar system's sun "the Sun" despite it having a wider more objective classification in the universe, the main universe is labelled "616" by residents because it's the general name for a prime universe, the way a sun is the general name for the star at the centre of a solar system.

Into the Spider-Verse would be its own cluster of universes.

I never really liked the idea of the Marvel Cinematic Universe being in any way connected to the comics or anything else Marvel, so since they are technically all considered to be part of the wider multiverse despite there seemingly being multiverses of their own in each franchise, this idea of sub-multiverses seems to fit best. A person in the comment section of that clip made in interesting point. Mysterio refers to the MCU as "Earth Dimension 616" while referring to his own world as simply "Earth-833".

The person stated that it could be interpreted that the Dimension in which the MCU Earth is located is numbered 616, but the reality as a whole is still designated Earth-199999.

Under this interpretation, we could say, for example, that the Mandelibus Dimension is Dimension 614, the Dark Dimension is Dimension 615, and so on.

It's the best explanation in my opinion. The MCU Earth is located in Dimension 616 of Earth-199999.

BEJT wrote: Elledy92 is right, he says "833" I'm pretty sure. You're both right, I had misheard it and stand corrected.

Really?! I love this Spider-Man. I think Tom Holland is perfect and significantly better than both Maguire and Garfield, and I love the way he's been written as this breezy teenager who's in over his head. I particularly loved how Homecoming treated him with the angle of "What if you were a neighbourhood superhero, but also just a 15-year-old trying to get through school, friendships, and relationships?" And out of all the high school-set things I've watched of late, I thought it was by far the most accurate. It didn't feel the need to overdramatise everything or make everything drugs, sex, gossiping, nastiness, backstabbing, and whatever else. It allowed school lives to be much more boring and normal, and in doing so made it so much more interesting, engaging, fun, realistic. I loved it.

Spider-Man got the biggest cheer in my cinema of all the characters coming through the portals. Yeah, I've got pretty much the same opinion. Besides, Spider-Man stories involving the Multiverse have become a surprisingly popular thing nowadays, so it makes a degree of sense that he would be the one to introduce (or, more accurately, properly explore) the concept in the MCU.

BEJT wrote: I think it will probably be mostly just a fun adventure. I don't think the multiverse will be a major part of the story, just more giving an excuse for certain things and planting a seed for the future. Agreed, it's likely that it'll just be used as the set up of the villains' origin stories in the film and to set up future storylines.

BEJT wrote: I get what you mean about Iron Man, though think it would be bad to not acknowledge it because it's a huge deal for the universe. BEJT wrote: If any line is going to be a trailer-only line, it would be that, trying to oversimplify the film to lure people in with the mention of Iron Man.

Yeah, that cop thing was a bit odd. BEJT wrote: I reckon it won't take until the end of the film for the film to step away from Iron Man, but yeah, perhaps they cement that in the end. The way I see it, people would be looking for someone to serve as a beacon of hope for a world that's still recovering from everything that's happened.

In terms of someone literally becoming the new Iron Man, I'd prefer Riri Williams/Ironheart, although she's admittedly a somewhat controversial figure among the fanbase.