Thread:Marvelus/@comment-26838855-20190116120806/@comment-3095612-20190317034314

BEJT wrote: He could have caught the tail end of Vietnam before the U.S. pulled out in March 1973, when he was 22.

I'm not good on army ranks and things, but Samuel L. Jackson shares your line of thought. He's been talking recently about how he wants to explore the things from Fury's past that he references in this film. Yeah, I remember it was mentioned previously (Winter Solider I think?) that he reached the rank of colonel. Looking back at old notes I jotted down, usually it takes 22+ years to get to the rank... but I didn't look too deep into it. Because if Fury deployed in 1968, I think it's more likely he got the rank through "battlefield promotion" while he was serving in Vietnam for exceptional leadership in the field. Then I think they discontinued that after Vietnam for the more standardized system of promotion.

BEJT wrote: One of those agents could have been May, I agree. I still feel that - and I know schedules and whatever - but some of the agents on the Helicarrier in Age of Ultron should have been Coulson's team (minus Coulson himself to avoid the problem of "But film-only audiences won't understand). I know, I know, schedules, but still. It would just have been great to do that or indeed to have May in this, because it in no way impacts the film-only audiences' experience (they don't need to have seen the show to understand, they'd just think "random S.H.I.E.L.D. agents" like they do anyway) but is so brilliant as an extra detail for the fans. I don't think we ever found out when she joined S.H.I.E.L.D. but there's a very strong chance she's there by 1995. We've been given enough bits of info about May's past to know that's is very possible she could have been stationed in California with Coulson. So we know from "Purpose in the Machine" she took up ice skating at age 7 because she admired Dorothy Hamill. Hamill was famous essentially in early-mid 1970s so I estimated May was born after 1965. May quits skating at age 12 and starts martial arts. William May has a photo of her from 1979. "Face My Enemy" indicates May and Coulson were at the SHIELD Academy at the same time (but different schools, Coulson was communications and May was operations) as Coulson recalled May dropped her dance elective two weeks after the course started then they reminisce about they on their first mission together, a retrieval op in Sausalito, California involving a coffee shop. May spent five hours in the San Franciso Bay until Coulson fished her out. Eventually. Or in "The Patriot", LMD May told Daisy that one of Coulson and May's earliest missions together was assigned to a mission in Madrid. The mustached Coulson lets May drive Lola but was sworn to secrecy. "The Man Behind the Shield" had that Russia mission with that irritating time stamp of "Some years ago" BUT in "Self Control" LMD May recalls a memory of May being stationed in the Alps for a month so there's that wiggle room to explain her away, lol.

BEJT wrote: The inhibitor is likely just coincidence, but it's nice to make the connection, especially since it was a Kree (Kasius) who used it on Daisy. The Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. one I seem to remember was really embedded in Daisy with like wires and things whereas this seemed to just pop off with a strong tug, but then again the Kree have 96 years to have improved the technology by the time Daisy is given an inhibitor. True, but still I loved the parallel of both breaking free from a Kree inhibitor device while in a weird mental/VR projection with a villain.

BEJT wrote: There's some implications that kind of contradict Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. - it's implied that Fury and Coulson have recently met despite the fact that they should have known each other well for 13 years, but it's not outright stated, and Coulson mentions the Kree despite not really knowing them in 2013/14 but he never meets a proper blue Kree so wouldn't recognise them and someone theorised on here, sorry I can't remember who, that T.A.H.I.T.I. could have intentionally also removed Coulson's memories of Kree as part of the memory-editing making sure he doesn't remember what happened. Marvelus mentioned it above. Eh, not really. In the movie, Fury refers to Coulson as "new guy" but it's simple to give someone that name who's fresh out of the Academy even though they met 13 years prior as a jab. Fury even chuckles a little, like an inside joke.

BEJT wrote: Thanks, I couldn't find the filming dates for Mallrats but I guessed around 6-9 months before release for a film like that. 6-7 then. Sure, reshoots works, or just filmed later in the MCU.

I don't think Windows 95 or the train line or I'm Only Happy When It Rains are a big deal. They're annoying, but I guess they just arrived a couple of months early in the MCU. I think the June calendar can't be ignored, and maybe the main events are June 29-July 1, 1995, as late as possible.

I heard there was a problem with the arcade game in Poncho's being anachronistic, thanks for mentioning which game it was because I had forgotten. I'm going to make a list at the bottom now that I've found some more details and things and got a friend to note which songs were in-universe and which were not of all the anachronisms and the things that work fine (also for adding real events and releases to the timeline as usual). You're welcome. I found the principal filming dates on Mallrats' imdb page.

BEJT wrote: This was mentioned above, I initially thought "What if he tries glass eyes for a bit" but then as I was responding on here, realised that presumably wouldn't work since he still has his bad eye in The Winter Soldier and I would strongly assume you can't just replace a bad eye once it's been removed for a glass eye. Well, we are dealing with a world with a lot of advanced tech... ;)

BEJT wrote: Thank you for the full quote. I agree, maybe April 1995-ish. Agreed. It kind of makes sense Fury's reign as Director could be post 9/11. By the end of CM, I realized they didn't say who the current director was -- but not a deal breaker, not really a moment for that to be revealed. I know the wiki claims Keller was but I've put 3 sources that say he was just an agent (my theory is he's the LA Field Office's SAIC like how by Iron Man 1, Coulson is a top agent).

BEJT wrote: Hmm I don't know, this is tough. Hopefully, Bogota is asked about with someone like Feige or the Russos or Marcus & McFeely like on those EMPIRE podcasts that are conducted.

BEJT wrote: Clark Gregg said they meet for the first time in the film, which was problematic since Coulson says in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. that he was recruited by Fury straight out of high school, so in 1982, and Fury trained him. But it's never made explicit in the film that they only just met and there's wiggle room for that to work fine, which was a big relief. I chalked it up to Gregg having to answer Q&A off the top of his head during a set visit and find his comments okay to disavow.

BEJT wrote: Lorraine Cink, who does't actually speak for Marvel in this sort of way but is still at Marvel so not entirely disposable, says the Kree-Skrull war has been going for "millennia". I recall that "millennia" bit from some PR article like EW. I'll try and see if I can hunt down a link.