Thread:BEJT/@comment-27496405-20170830154244/@comment-26838855-20170905092758

CirUmeUela wrote: So, before I get to work on the TV stuff for my timeline, I had a few questions.

I wanna include these things on the timeline:

Marvel's Avengers Assemble - SHIELDops.com Promo 1

I didn't see this anywhere on the timeline here, but I guess I will put it somewhere shortly before Avengers. Maybe this is considered non-canon? If you cut out the last bit, then I think it fits. Also, there was another promo like this, SHIELDops.com Promo 2 - Report to Duty, but the link for it on the wiki is obsolete. I can't find it anywhere online. Does anyone happen to have it?

Next, there was this Audi commercialfor Civil War. This can basically fit pretty well, although I don't know if I want to edit it into the movie. Thoughts?

Then there were the Spider-Man: Homecoming commercials, the Audi one and the NBA Finals one. The NBA Finals one fits well, I think, in the beginning of Homecoming shortly after Peter is dropped off at his apartment. The Audi one fits well sometime after Homecoming, because Peter now has to learn how to drive after that disaster with Flash's car.

The last one is a stretch, but there's this Brazilian Hulk commercial Banner was in Brazil during The Incredible Hulk, so maybe it could fit there? But that's very doubtful because

a) Surely Ross would have noticed him and tried to catch him

b) Why is there a missle about to hit a Brazilian city? Malfunction?

c) Wouldn't Hulk have gone on a destructive rampage after and therefore this event would not have gone unnoticed? And also, Bruce doesn't really have control over the Hulk yet, so why would the Hulk stop a missle? Maybe he just saw something big in the sky and wanted to punch it?

Now, I'm sure most or all of these things are considered non-canon by this wiki, but that's ok. I do want to include some of them on my timeline and just wanted to know what you guys think for where I should place them, or give me reaons why they simply cannot fit at all. Thanks! While no decision has 100% been made, they are generally all considered non-canon. The exception was Watch the Game, because Sony and Jon Watts had a hand in its development and it had a proper release online with a title for it as a miniseries, so it was murky and possible to be considered canon, but Spider-Man: Homecoming contradicted it, as there was no NBA finals that happen during Peter's 2 months back home. But, if you want to include all of these, sure. Marvelous likes their inclusion as well. They're kind of written off here, because once you open that door to canonising commercials it's a very slippery slope, and Marvel are not involved in their creative production. Some of them clearly don't fit (like the Hulk/Ant-Man Coke commercial - Hulk had already disappeared a couple of months before Scott even became Ant-Man, and he already has a new suit by Civil War so it wouldn't be set post-Infinity War/Avengers 4 either, and some of them, like the Civil War Audi one, can get very silly. Other reasons they're written off include the fact that ones like the Peter Parker Audi one make jokes that only really work in a commercial - you wouldn't see that be a scene in Homecoming, where Peter comically manages to jump out of the car, suit up, fight the criminals, de-suit, and get back into the car so fast, that kind of humour comes from the fact that it's a commercial so the physics don't have to line up, and Happy's joke about "Too soon" in response to Steve is a bit demeaning to the impact of the ending of Civil War - why would F.R.I.D.A.Y. even ask about inviting Steve when he's on the run and she helped Tony fight him, and was on the receiving end of Steve nearly killing Tony, just weeks prior?
 * The SHIELDops one doesn't contradict anything, I guess it would go somewhere between The Incredible Hulk and The Avengers
 * The Civil War Audi commercial is your choice. It sort of fits, but I imagine if you work out the excruciating detail of the different types of cars and their placements, it might not line up. It would also very much disrupt the flow of that scene.
 * The Peter Parker Audi one would be a little after Homecoming if you want to place it. He shows that he is terrible at driving in the film, and the video he is watching in the commercial is of him driving Flash's car, the scene from the film.
 * The NBA finals one, if you want, you can consider that the NBA finals happened a couple of weeks later in the MCU, around early July, because the NBA finals were on June 20, 2016 - the same day that General Ross visits the Avengers at the New Avengers Facility in Civil War.
 * The Brazilian Hulk commercial I just can't see working. It cannot really be during the big 5-year chase, because there's a big poster up of the Hulk, and he wasn't known in the world, just to special forces and local rumours, until The Avengers (as well as Hulk's design being the one from The Avengers onwards). So it would either have to be from 2012-2015, or post-Ragnarok/Infinity War/Avengers 4. It would be a bit weird for there to have been a random Brazilian missile incident involving the Hulk that we didn't know about, as well as the car involved being a 2017 model.

So yeah, some can fit, and it's definitely acceptable to squeeze some of them in, like the Spider-Man ones especially, but here they're generally written off due to the lack of Marvel involvement and the commercial style, as well as small details contradicting - and the fact that once you open the door to canonising some, it can get very slippery as to which count and which don't. But I hope that helps for where they would fit in, if you do want to include some of them.