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"4/30/2018" (Marvelous 345678)
Marvelous 345678 wrote: Hi bro! nicr to hear of you. I do think that the Ant-Man and the Wasp date is a must go but not necessity of doing it right now. We'll see. Probably soon.

Daredevil: Season 3 (Marvelous 345678)
Marvelous 345678 wrote: By the way, around minute 5:00, the actress for Sister Maggie said something about TWO years being with Murdock. Video Did I hear well? Is it two years? Or did she mean about other thing? I watched a few times, watched the whole video, and found the uncut version from the livestream. Nothing about "2 years", sadly. What made you think she said that?

Mrmichaelt wrote: Off the top of my head, in ~mid July 2018, Justin Anderson I think was in a multiplayer deal from the Phildelphia 76ers to the Atlanta Hawks in the NBA Eastern Conference. Thank you, that could be pretty helpful. July's quite late for the season to take place, hopefully it doesn't suggest July.

Marvelous 345678 wrote: Elden Henson said that Foggy Nelson is running for District Attorney in Season 3. That would support a definitiva date? Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote: They're going for DA Foggy this quickly? But he's still working under Jeri. I would expect a DA candidate to be someone who's already made partner in a law firm, not a dude 3 years out of law school. Marvelous 345678 wrote: It was in a recen interview, Henson said that Marci motivated Nelson into running for DA in Season 3. He was about to say more but the showrunner told him to shut UP xD.

Plus. Nelson and Murdock have left law school more than just 3 years... Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote: I thought they said in Season 1 that they had just graduated law school. But yeah, it's closer to 4 years at this point. Marvelous 345678 wrote: Nono man. They meant that they were starting to work independently and forming their own firma. They graduated long before that. Mrmichaelt wrote: The New York County DA, Cyrus Vance Jr. was elected in 2017 for a 4 year term. The filing deadline was July 13, 2017. Vance was unopposed and won the general election November 7, 2017. So that would place Daredevil in fall 2017. Marvelous 345678 wrote: Hmm I see which is unlikely so I would say Foggy is running for DA in 2021. Mrmichaelt wrote: Or they're saying Foggy ran in 2017 but lost to Vance. The implication in Season 1 was that it hadn't been more than a couple of years, supported by the "Fall 2010" application date on Foggy's laptop when he meets matt at the beginning of college. However, in Season 2, they kind of retconned it. They explicitly said and showed that 10 years ago, Matt and Foggy were already friends at college ("10 years ago" was after that flashback in Nelson v. Murdock). It lines up with Matt's age that he would have been 18, starting college in Autumn/Fall 2005, the stuff with Elektra was late 2005, and they graduated in 2008.

Marvelous 345678 wrote: No worry bro. It hasn't happened nothing yet. ;) I haven't found the panel yet, but yeah, haven't seen any articles saying anything about them giving a timeframe. It's a miracle! Can't wait for it to go wrong next week😂.

G.W. Bridge (Mrmichaelt)
Mrmichaelt wrote: I'll try and grab the scene and circle the pertinent area. More than likely it's just an easter egg but stranger things have happened. Mrmichaelt wrote: Here's that GW Bridge reference in Winter Soldier, BETJ. You see it left of Howard's head. still of memo Oh nice! Thank you, didn't know about that.

Ant-Man and the Wasp Notes (CirUmeUla)
CirUmeUela wrote: Hey guys, here are my updated notes for Ant-Man and the Wasp, which include flashbacks and the prologue scene. Let me know what you guys think for the placement of these scenes, and BEJT, I don't know if you have completed notes for Ant-Man and the Wasp past dates, but let me know what you think of mine. No rush on this, whenever you have the chance. Hope you are enjoying university!

Ant Man and the Wasp 0:00-3:28 Late 2015? Hope still has short haircut, may be shortly after main events of Ant-Man Hank Pym tells Hope about the day Janet disappeared and that after Scott went to the Quantum realm and came back, he now thinks there’s a way to bring her back Thank you for wishing me well. Yeah, I need to rewatch the film to see if there's any indicators about when that first scene takes place. Because I remember being unable to tell if it was supposed to be shortly after Ant-Man, somewhere between Ant-Man and Civil War, or shortly after Scott has been arrested in Civil War. Luis' story later on would imply that Hope still had the bob haircut at the time of Civil War.

CirUmeUela wrote: Ant Man and the Wasp 0:00-2:40 1987 Janet sees Hope for the last time, they stop the missile (new details)

Ant Man and the Wasp 11:50-12:08 1986 maybe, quantum entanglement Scott/Janet sees Hope hiding in closet Yeah, 1987, presumably the day before or the day of her disappearance.

Apparently an ICBM takes 30 minutes to get from Moscow to New York, and Kursk, where it was launched from, is near Moscow. So they had to take it down before the last 10 minutes or so, within about 20 minutes of it launching, while it was still over the Atlantic Ocean.

Presumably they were called in about the threat, not the actual missile firing, because from what I remember in Ant-Man and the Wasp, they weren't in a huge rush. And there's no way they could get from San Francisco to the Atlantic Ocean in less than 20 minutes. But maybe a few hours. Maybe the danger in Kursk was ramping up and they called them in, and a few hours later the missile was launched and they had to deal with it, so it's the same day?

I personally wouldn't include the Quantum entanglement scene because it's not a flashback really, doesn't Scott as Janet kind of look at herself in the mirror and get surprised, more like it's a nightmare based on a memory?

CirUmeUela wrote: Ant Man and the Wasp 45:28-46:28 *cut out present bits 1990-1997? Ava's parents die in quantum energy experiment, she is left with molecular disequilibrium

Going by what you were saying earlier BEJT, This is how Laurence Fishburne looked in 1997, this is how he looked in 1987, and this is how Bill Foster looks in the flashback, so it’s hard to say, he kind of looks like himself in 1987, so maybe a little older to account for the age of Ava, so somewhere maybe between 1990-1997?

Ant Man and the Wasp 46:45-47:10 1990-1997? Young Bill Foster meets young Ava, shortly after her parents are killed (a few months later at the most)

Ant Man and the Wasp 47:15-47:18 1990-1997? Shortly after Bill Foster meets Ava She is experimented on by SHIELD (a few weeks later maybe at the most) Sorry, I'll get to this. My to-do list is long, I just need to build momentum and routine again.

Thank you for doing the Laurence Fishburne research.

I'll do this with more specificity soon, but rough for now: Hannah John-Kamen was about 28y1.5m old during filming. So if Ant-Man and the Wasp is around March-April 2018, Ghost would have been born around February 1990.

RaeLynn Bratten's page here said she was 8 when I checked on August 8, 2018, and still does. Her mother's Twitter bio says she's 7, but presumably it's just outdated (she doesn't seem to use her account much). It does, however, suggest that the resume page is not out-of-date - she's not 9 and the page just hasn't been updated. I had a look her social media to see if I could find her birthday, and I did: 1 and 2, her birthday is April 17th. So, she was likely born April 17, 2010.

Therefore, she was likely about 7y6m old at the time of filming. Which would suggest the flashbacks are roughly August 1997.

As for Laurence Fishburne, first, he was about 56y2.5m old during filming, suggesting Bill Foster was born around January 1962.

Next, there's what you've pointed out about how he looks closer to A Nightmare on Elm Street 3: Dream Warriors (filmed around Summer-Autumn/Fall 1986, when he was about 25y1m-ish old, which translates to about February 1987 with Bill Foster) than Event Horizon (filmed November 18, 1996-March 14, 1997, when he was about 35y6m old, which translates to about July 1997 with Bill Foster).

Then there's who played him. Because I've heard different things. I've heard that it was a Laurence, deaged, but I've also heard that it's just his son Langston playing him. Personally, I think if you compare pictures of the image with Langston Fishburne, it's not quite the same - he just looks too much like Laurence. Obviously I do think that they used Langston (that can't just be made up), but I think they used him with like dots on his face to calibrate it with a deaged Laurence. So it's kind of a blend, like what they did with Michael Douglas and Kurt Russell. There's evidence for this as well from RaeLynn Bratten's Instagram, which I found as I was going through - she seemingly worked with both of them together.

Langston Fishburne was born in 1987, making him about 30y4m at the time of filming. So if it's supposed to look roughly like he's Langston's age, then it should be about May 1992. But that should probably have half the weight it usually would because it's not strictly Langston's age, it's just that that works as an approximation.

So if I do some quick, simpler maths and just use these rounded figures, just to get a good rough guess for now, [May 1992*(1/(56.20833+30.33333*2))+August 1997*(1/(28.125+7.5))]/[(1/(56.20833+30.33333*2))+(1/(28.125+7.5))] = May 1996.

So about then? For now? Hope that helps until I can do it properly.

I have still only seen the film one time, but I'm assuming it works for this stuff to be 9 years after Janet's disappearance. Like there's no story reason why it can't be that late, right?

CirUmeUela wrote: Ant Man and the Wasp 47:18-47:32 2000? (This shows clips from various missions, possibly from various years) Ava does various secret missions for SHIELD I don't know, sorry, again, I'll need to rewatch the film. But if Ghost was born around 1989-1990, it wouldn't be until at least like the late 2000s, surely?

CirUmeUela wrote: Ant Man and the Wasp 56:02-56:18 2012 probably Scott meets Luis in prison, Scott is going through his divorce Yeah, July 2012.

CirUmeUela wrote: Ant Man and the Wasp 56:30-56:38 2010? Don't know when, Luis's grandma had a jukebox in her restaurant that only played Morrissey songs

Ant Man and the Wasp 56:45-57:00 2015, Not a flashback really During Ant-Man 1, Hope meets Scott lang, fast forward to end when they kiss, Scott “tells” Hope that he is going to trash an airport with Captain America (this did not really happen at this moment, there’s no way Scott was even contacted yet by Falcon, Hawkeye or anyone else)

Ant Man and the Wasp 57:00-57:04 (a few months at the most) Hope calls Scott on the phone after the events of Civil War and breaks up with him

Ant Man and the Wasp 57:06-57:10 2016 Scott during house arrest, maybe at the beginning of his sentence (could be the same day that Hope calls to break up with him) Scott realized he blew it with Hope (the rest of Luis’s story shows event during this same film) Are you going to put these as clips? Because I think we'll put them on the timeline in terms of the factual parts of them, but the clips themselves aren't canon because they're embellished stories.

Iron Fist Cancelled (Marvelous 345678, Mrmichaelt)
Marvelous 345678 wrote: Iron Fist gets cancelled by Netflix. Mrmichaelt wrote: And if Daughters of the Dragon gets a greenlight, 'the Internet' will claim Iron Fist was cancelled for it. :P Deadline reports that Disney's streaming service are suggesting a revival there. If it's not, the characters will likely show up in other Netflix shows anyway.

This decision is not to do with the Disney streaming service. If it was Marvel (Disney) who made the decision, then that would be a giveaway that that was the case. But this was Netflix's decision, to cancel the show despite Marvel apparently campaigning to bring it back. Luke Cage is apparently about to get renewed for Season 3, so they're not in any hurry to cancel these Netflix shows because of the streaming service. This one was a casualty purely of Netflix.

I just want to see them get a chance to follow up on the promise of those last few minutes of Season 2. The show itself, I'm not too sad. But just the promise it left, and the characters. Same with Agent Carter, wasn't a big fan of the show, but really wanted to see a follow-up with the great characters and with the promises of things to come that they set up.

Iron Fist Notes (Additional)
I've finished the notes, I just have to do some of the boring maths parts now.

But, having started that stuff, it looks to me like the January 2nd date isn't going to work. The season seems to only last maximum about 23 days from start to finish (not including the epilogue), and finishes in February. This is a bit of a shame, because it will only be about 15 days off from the right date, but oh well. It does mean that there's not the awkward problem of the season starting around 2AM on January 1st. Because it would be a bit weird that New Year never gets mentioned, especially since the last time Danny saw Colleen was clearly before midnight, meaning this would be the first time he's seen her in 2018, but they don't at all joke about it or mention it. It also means we don't have the problem of the fact that the first day of the season is implied to be Tuesday, when Danny jokes that they should have date night every Tuesday, but if it were January 1st it would be Monday.

The Spring Fair research Marvelous did was great, although there was one slight mistake. When you gave the two dates, Marvelous, the "February 5th" source was actually for 2019, not 2018. And the reason that date was February 5th was because that is the date of Chinese New Year in 2019. Because, as the fact that the only other date Marvelous had as an option was February 16th implies, Spring Fair seems to just be either New Year's eve or New Year's day. So yeah, February 4/5, 2019. February 15/16, 2018.

So the final two episodes should be in the first half of February, no more than a week or two before February 15/16, 2018, and with the season only lasting about 23 days, it cannot line up as beginning in January 1st.

In Episode 10, the Empire State Building has red and white lights, which seems to be the "red and white in honour of the 41st Annual Empire State Building Run-Up" from the night of February 7-8, 2018, and would mean that the Spring Fair planning committee, who are shown in the main events of Episode 9 which would be February 7, 2018, were planning with 8-9 days to go. That works.

And therefore, overall, it looks to me like it will be roughly Tuesday, January 16, 2018 to Thursday, February 8, 2018.