Thread:Marvelous 345678/@comment-26838855-20170701032609/@comment-26838855-20170803153110

Marvelous 345678 wrote: I hope with Ant-Man and the Wasp pre-IW it doesn't cause confusion in the people that sees these movies. But it also shows the CW Storyline really affected the MCU nad wasn't a clearly let down like others think Most people seemed to really like Civil War, and at the time everyone loved it it seemed but now it seems to have fallen a little by the wayside and that saddens me.

Civil War was, in my opinion at least, an absolute masterpiece, and honestly, and this is of course nothing against the other 14 films, but the Russos' Captain America films are, for me, a whole level above the rest of the competition. I feel like the people who are more lukewarm on Civil War are the ones who don't engage with the Captain America character (and Bucky) as much as I know I personally, and a lot of critics and other fans, do, the ones who've watched Avengers 1 a bunch of times rather than Winter Soldier a bunch of times, and aren't quite so intimate with that character, and it's also the people who I feel might have misinterpreted the ending (for example, the Honest Trailer, a series I love, but the Civil War one was a little frustrating). Some people said, "there was no stakes, they're best friends again by the end and no one died." I think with the continuation of the storyline, same directors and writers, in Infinity War, people will realize more that the ending was very much not that the Avengers are best buds again. The group is fractured, it literally consists of a heartbroken Tony Stark (perfect direction to take his character, remorseful and contemplative instead of being a bit of a jerk still), a learning-to-walk-again Rhodey, and Vision being depressed that his desire to be more human has led to him getting distracted and breaking his friend's back, and contemplating what his right path should be. The letter was an olive branch from Steve, but Tony's going to need some time, and clearly Steve will too. It's going to take a while to come back together from this fracture. And while I went in kinda hoping (as much as I love him) for Steve to come full circle and die, as the events played out, I realized that they made the right call. No one's story is complete, and it would've felt cheap to just end on a funeral. Yes, no one died, but that certainly does not mean there is no consequences. Almost every single character is in a different and more developed (and most of them worse...) place than they were before the film, and allowing the characters to live allows them to then explore the consequences between them in Infinity War (and then characters might begin to die, in due course). Also, just because no one dies doesn't mean that that Siberia fight doesn't have me tense and scared and heartbroken the whole time on rewatches still! It's a miracle that the film managed to further every character's storyline so well and take them all in a great direction, and that ending was the perfect glimmer of hope after a very serious (personally, I love that) film, but it was not a happy ending. And yes, Civil War is clearly the launchpad for Phase Three, as Homecoming, Black Panther, Infinity War, Ant-Man and the Wasp, and Avengers 4 are all following the consequences of it.

Yeah sorry, I just thought I'd talk about that a bit. Civil War is incredible, for me anyway, so well-written and emotional and the perfect development for every character, and it's only a shade under The Dark Knight for me as the second best superhero film ever.