Thread:CirUmeUela/@comment-27496405-20180307074410/@comment-26838855-20180502203206

CirUmeUela wrote: Happy 10th Anniversary everyone!

That's interesting that Talbot's actor says there will be references to the events of Infinity War. I'm assuming the rest of the season will happen in a short time span. That means it will likely be concurrent with Infinity War. That hasn't happened I believe since The Winter Soldier. I wonder if the season will end right before the end of Infinity War or after.

I find it funny how Talbot's actor said "I feel like a vegetarian butcher — I work in the business, but I don’t sample the food!” Sounds just like something Talbot would say.

I've done some work on Jessica Jones Season 2, just rough dates like years. Tell me what you guys think:

Jessica Jones 2.01: AKA Start at the Beginning


 * it's mentioned she got hospital bed 20 days later, do events from Season 1 need to be readjusted?

2000 before Jessica wakes up in the hospital

50:36-50:39 Jessica on the gurney, sees experimentation room

51:09-51:11 Jessica's thighs are punctured by the block device with many needles

51:28-51:31 Jessica's disfigured mother grabs her violently in the hallway

Jessica Jones 2.02: AKA Freak Accident

2000 after Jessica wakes up in the hospital

9:22-9:31 Trish's mother criticizes Jessica for not crying at her own family's funeral

Jessica Jones 2.05: AKA The Octopus

2000 before Jessica wakes up in the hospital, after injection which gives her powers

49:00-49:05 Jessica sees Karl Malus above her as she lies down, he tells her she will be alright

Jessica Jones 2.07: AKA I Want Your Cray Cray

2000 before Jessica wakes up in the hospital

0:00-4:00 Jessica's mother, Alisa, is brought back to life through experiments, she becomes violent and murderous

2005 five years since the accident

4:00-17:42 Alisa wakes up with a reconstructed face, Cray Cray is released, Jessica meets Stirling

2006 Jessica and Stirling have been together at least a year

17:42-51:15 Alisa is tired of the experiments and demands to know where Jessica is, Jessica has been with her boyfriend for a year, Alisa finds Jessica but doesn’t reveal herself to her, in a rage she kills Stirling in a back alley of a bar, she runs away in shame, Jessica tells Trish about Stirling being killed, Alisa wants to die but Karl vows to fix her


 * add Cray Cray music video if youtube version is extended

Jessica Jones 2.11: AKA Three Lives and Counting

Anywhere from 2010-2013? Karl and Alisa are together, Karl mentions he is shutting down IGH, his beard is less gray, he’s wearing different glasses than in the present

27:56-31:12 Alisa and Karl spend time on the beach

And I've also attempted to give rough estimates for the events in Infinity War... Major spoilers follow!

Again, SPOILER ALERT FOR INFINITY WAR!!

2017 (or 2018?) Thanos gathers the stones, Avengers, Guardians, Strange etc. fight, Thanos does the snap

1986-1990    Thanos spares young Gamorra and shields her eyes as his soldiers kill half of her people

2000 BC? Thanos shows Titan as it once was and explains how he suggested genocide to save them but was called a madman

2015-2016?    Gamorra tells Nebula that she burned the path to the soul stone

Any ideas when Thanos might have suggested his plan on Titan? Centuries ago, millenia ago? Do we have any idea about how old Thanos is?

That's all for now. What do you guys think? It's interesting. He also kinda said he doesn't really know - it might just be things like the New York reference that he's thinking about. We shall see.

I've been thinking about the 20 days, and I think it's April-May 2000, not March-April. The car crash was when they were off on holiday, and it would make sense for it to be Easter holidays. Easter was really late in 2000, on April 23rd, so if, say, they pulled out of school a couple of days early for the holiday - or, like my school, when Easter's late they make it the end of the holiday instead of the middle, then April 13th works. March doesn't fall near any holidays (I guess you could say they're going for the weekend, but it's unlikely. I think they said Florida - a long way to go for just a weekend). As well as that, the IGH medical bills from AKA Take a Bloody Number seem to have been Dorothy paying for like "these special treatment people to take Jessica", that sort of thing (that's not a quote, I'm imagining her thought process). So it would make sense for it to be dated to the day of the crash. So yeah, I'd say April 13th crash, in IGH until May 3rd.

The funeral thing is probably pretty soon after that in early May, since 20 days is already quite long to wait, but it has to be after Jessica was released.

The AKA I Want Your Cray Cray events I think actually all take place in 2005. As I watched the episode and made notes, I, too, thought "this is at least a year" and especially with the line in there somewhere I think about how Stirling asked for money from the thugs a year ago? But in the following episodes, they refer to Alisa living with Karl for 12 years a few times, and I think there might be another mention of something like that which also made me think it's just a few months from early 2005 to mid-2005 (it's shown to be really hot), ending on the first Friday of a month, because there's a film being projected like in Episode 1, probably August, if not September. My Jessica Jones: Season 2 notes can be found near the top of this discussion. I never had time to quite finish them (I lost a bit of work), I might do that as a small job in the next day or two when I take breaks from my revision and work. I think there I mention why it's all 2005. But basically, Stirling must have tried to get going a few months before he met Jessica. I'll also check when the hottest time of the year was for whether the Friday a few days later should be early July, early August, or early September.

Yeah I was very unsure about the AKA Three Lives and Counting flashback on the beach, but your guess seems about right. I wonder if there's any way to specifically place it.

Infinity War is 2018, like Marvelous said. 6 years since Avengers, 2 years since Civil War.

While I'd calculated around 1986-1990 for the flashbacks, as you said, in the film Gamora says, "I hated this room, this ship, I hated my life," and Thanos replies, "You told me that, too, every day, for almost 20 years." This implies that his massacre of half her people occurred "almost 20 years" before Gamora left him in August 2014. So around the mid-1990s. I did some calculating here based on Zoe Saldana and the young actress' ages and that line, and it came out, at least for now (Infinity War is only approximately placed at the moment so a movement of the film could slightly change the calculations), as August 1995.

Gamora telling Nebula I guess was between Vol. 2 and Infinity War, like you say. In that case, the midpoint would be mid-2016. It could have been during Vol. 2, but that seems a bit odd.

Yeah, I have no idea about the Titan stuff. Seems like the planet died centuries ago. Maybe the comics give a hint about Thanos' age? Marvelous 345678 wrote: Infinity War has to be on 2018. Two years since Civil War. 6 years since the Avengers.

I think it happens through January 2018 and the fact that AoS5 might tie into the events gives more strength to that idea.

I think Gamora and Nebula talking on the Soul Stone takes place before Guardias of the Galaxy.

We will receive more intel about Thanos' life when the book comes out soon. Oh the talking about the soul stone could be prior to Guardians of the Galaxy I guess, but I feel like they didn't trust each other enough back then.

The book is non-canon, but it could be an "inspired canon" thing where it's written like it's in the MCU, it's just not officially. In that case, like with the other "inspired canon" comics, it can give us a bit of guidance.

This weekend, when I get a little bit of time and after the next episode of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., I will do the Ragnarok/Infinity War calculations again. My first pass at them the other day was more to just get things a bit more into place - Ragnarok got moved to September temporarily, which was an improvement on the June placement and closer to accurate. But I will also factor in the new information about how the Scotland sunset times work, and the fact that Infinity War is Wednesday-Thursday. But yeah, I'll wait until Saturday, firstly because I don't have time until then, and secondly because I might as well wait and see if Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. does actually address the film. January 2018 feels too early for Infinity War, but if Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. does a proper tie-in, so be it.