Talk:2015

Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Season Two 2015 Timeline Suggestions
BEJT
 * For Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., I believe Episodes 1 and 2 definitely take place in 2014 because of the Scars flashback saying "1 year ago". 1 year ago I'd say is a minimum of 8 months, so really the very latest it could take place is mid-September. I know Talbot says "a whole winter", but by that I think he just means "for the whole time before this summer". Anyway, it would suggest it is summer, plus his son is walking around with him as if he might be on holiday, and if it is definitely after Guardians of the Galaxy, I would say mid-August. It is unclear when Episode 3 takes place - somewhere between August 14 and February 15. If going for the midpoint, I'd say November 14. This also makes sense because in the finale, Ward talks about Kara being subjected to "months of capture and torture". Plus in the first episode Coulson shows loads of HYDRA bases, but by later episodes the Avengers are closing in on the last few, and they would have needed months to do all that. Therefore I believe it is perfectly possible that quite a few months pass between Episode 2 and 4, with 3 in the middle. Anyway, all this means my suggestions for 2015 start on Episode 4.
 * The dates I suggest for Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. are working from the April 2015 sections I have already added, which themselves work backwards from the established date for the beginning of Age of Ultron on April 29th. Anything within a paragraph in bold is stated evidence.
 * March
 * WHiH Google+: The WHiH post about Pepper speaking at the convention currently on 9th March, I believe should be on 12th. This is because on the 8th March post it says she will speak "on Thursday". The next Thursday is the 12th.
 * Episode 2.4: Due to reasons explained later, I believe the fundraiser for Santa Maria de las Flores takes place on March 13th. I reckon it would take the priest and bishop about 2 or 3 days to prepare it, so I would say the opening of the episode with the priest and bishop takes place on March 10th or 11th. The church, therefore, burnt down on March 9th or 10th. Hunter kissing the woman, the fundraiser, the "Ambush at the Hotel La Ona" and all the Bus nearly exploding stuff takes place on March 13th. Raina then gets threatened by Whitehall the next day (March 14th), and he gives her 48 hours to retrieve the Obelisk, absolutely proving episodes 4 and 5 are consecutive.
 * Episode 2.5: Raina has 48 hours, so she is due to give the Obelisk to Whitehall in the morning of March 16th. This means the restaurant scene must take place on the evening before (March 15th). Working back from that, the "Massacre at the Wedding Party" takes place on the evening of the 14th. The HYDRA meeting, Raina sending the message, the restaurant scene, "Escape from HYDRA Laboratories" and Skye calling her father a monster is all on the 15th.
 * April
 * Episode 2.6: Considering Hunter and Bobbi's reactions to each other, I believe abput 1-3 weeks have passed since Episode 5. I went with 2 weeks. Obviously this is changeable, so the dates for Episodes 4 and 5 could be shuffled. Anyway, I believe the "Attack on the United Nations" and the "Infiltration into Toshiro Mori's Estate" happen on March 31st, and the "Attack at the Belgian Safe House" and Ward's transfer and escape happen the next day on April 1st. The attack on the UN was morning of 31st, and Senator Ward's speech was evening of 1st, which makes sense for him saying "less than 48 hours ago there was an attack". I know Bobbi says after the Belgian incident "that's twice you've saved me today", so you could say that the infiltration into Mori's estate happened in the early hours of the 1st. I know these dates don't fit for the thing about "it'll be all wrapped up before the midterms"', but as I will explain later, for this to fit with the Age of Ultron timeline there is pretty much no way as far as I can see that it could take place much earlier, and besides, in Iron Man 3 there is even a different president, so who knows when the midterms are in the MCU. That night, the 1st, Derik gets his tattoo.
 * Episode 2.7: Due to Ward's escape happening the night before, episode 6 and 7 are definitely consecutive. The night of the 1st, Derik goes on to kill Janice Robbins. The following day (April 2nd), the rest of the events of this episode take place. I know the paper says "Monday", but to be honest, I think by now we can agree MCU paper dates are barely ever correct (Agent Carter, Iron Man 3, Daredevil), and that the days of the week do not matter too much to the timeline. If you really wanted, you could use the leniancy of Mack's "last week" term in the next episode to push episodes 6 and 7 back four 3 days so 2.6 is 28th-29th and 2.7 is 29th-Monday 30th and the paper would fit.
 * Episode 2.8: Mack says Coulson went crazy "last week", which I'd say means about a week has passed. This, I suggested, happened on April 2nd, so one week later is April 9th. Because Ward's paper the episode before said Monday, you could say 10 days has passed, and technically those events would still be "last week". The "Search for the Kree City" occurs on this day (April 9th) as the team fly to the satellite in Australia. This fits with what Hunter says, "Red Skull died over 70 years ago". Red Skull died on March 3rd 1945. It is now April 9th 2015. They discover Whitehall's past and the satellites find a match.
 * Episode 2.9: There is no actual mention of Episode 8 happening the day before, however, with the fact that they are racing HYDRA and Coulson is desperate to get to the city, plus Skye wakes up on the flight back from Australia, you can assume this episode occurs the day after Episode 8, on the 10th April. This roughly fits with what Fitz and Coulson say about it being vacation time. This would fit because this is the time of the Easter holidays. Agent 33 giving the order to attack the Bus at the end of the episode is the early hours of the 11th.
 * Episode 2.10: The attack on the Bus by HYDRA happens in the early hours of the 11th April. The rest of the episode, including the "Battle for the Kree City" happens on the 11th April.
 * Episode 2.11: Skye says "every time I wake up I think of Trip", which suggests this is not just the next day. Also, everyone is still upset and affected by Trip's death, but not extremely affected like they would be the day after, and Mack has already been released from quarantine. Also, Simmons is just finishing her work, suggesting one or two days of work already. However, Raina can't have been there too long without eating and drinking, so I would say this episode starts on the second day after Episode 10 - the 13th April. They talk about transferring Bakshi the next morning as soon as the son comes up, so the rest of the episode, including the "Assassination of HYDRA Leaders" happens the day after, on the 14th April, with Skye being released and them talking about Trip together.
 * Episode 2.12: If the Vin-Tak vs Sif on the pier battle had happened on the same day as the end of Episode 11, they would probably have acknowledged it during the episode. Besides, Skye is back to training with May like a normal routine again, so this is probably her second day back at training, meaning 16th April. The gap between Episodes 11 and 12 can't be much bigger than that either because May mentions "last week" at the end of the episode. This phrase, I feel, covers 4-9 days, so the ending of the episode taking place 6 days after San Juan seems about right. Therefore the majority of Episode 12 takes place on 16th April, so the Vin-Tak vs Sif battle and the opening scene of Sif on the beach is 15th April. The majority of the episode, from the team picking up Sif in the morning to the "Battle for Skye" in the evening, then occurs on 16th April. The next morning, 17th April, Sif goes back to Asgard with Vin-Tak. May says San Juan happened "last week". My suggestion was that San Juan happened on 11th April, so if she says this on the 17th, that fits in the "last week" bracket. Obviously it could be argued that a few more days have passed between Episode 2.11 and 2.12, but due to the reasons I mentioned earlier, I feel this is the right number of days. Mack then kidnaps Hunter later that day. This is definitely the day before the majority of the next episode because Hunter wakes up the next morning in the bathroom and the day after Mack says he's been gone for 48 hours. It could be disputed that there is a time gap of a day or two between Sif going back to Asgard and this last scene of the episode, but I highly doubt this because the day before Hunter seemingly got suspicious, and he would want to confront Mack A.S.A.P. the next day. Besides, at the beginning of Episode 13 Skye is in the cage and they are just starting to get her help after putting her on the Index. Seeing as she stormed into the cage early in the morning of the 17th, they would want to put her on the Index, talk to her about things and get her help quickly, that next morning. Because of both of these, I would highly doubt this last scene of Episode 12 takes place a day or two after Sif leaves, but rather just after.
 * Episode 2.13: Because Hunter wakes up in Episode 13 the morning after being kidnapped in Episode 12, Episode 13 must take place the day after Hunter is kidnapped at the end of Episode 12. Therefore, because Zabo recruiting Karla Faye Gideon occurs the evening before the rest of Episode 13, it must occur the evening after Hunter is kidnapped.
 * July
 * Ant-Man:  I don't understand why the unveiling of the Yellowjacket suit has been moved to July 13th. In the film this takes place after Scott comes out of prison, which we know occurs on the 17th. Also, on WHiH 16th July it says that "this week" Cross will unveil the suit