Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-26838855-20190803131136/@comment-26838855-20191203104758

DaenerysTheMadKhal58 wrote: Well, looks like we'll be going post-snap after all... And if it's christmas we'd need it to be June before episode 6... This is going to be a mess. Hopefully there's no holidays and we just have to believe the second half of the season is post-snap.

I wonder if this is the time-travel they mentioned, or if there's still more. Yeah exactly. The main problem though is the post-Snap, Christmas would be a minor problem in comparison (where, otherwise, it would be a big one).

Mrmichaelt wrote: The title is a nod to a wiccan chant.

If the one actress said right after season 2, March 2018 and granted little time passes in the first bit of episodes, theyd come out of the Dark Dimension in September 2018 at best, imo, the month after the ending of Punisher season 2 and 3 months after the Snap. Good grief.

Edit: I started a thread in Discussions because I found all the loglines on the Hulu press site but there's gonna be time travel in the finale... OK thanks about the wiccan chant, I didn't know that. Doesn't necessarily mean it's not a double meaning, but I sincerely hope it's not Christmas.

Season 2 ended in late January 2018, not March, but yeah. That was the problem I was highlighting. The season has 4 months to squeeze everything into, and I was fairly optimistic about that, my only fear was some sort of end-of-season epilogue like The Punisher: Season 2 (that scene worked fine, with only two returning characters, but having a bunch of characters and no mention would be a problem). But this 6-month jump thing... eek... I don't think the Dark Dimension would protect them from the Snap since the Quantum Realm apparently doesn't, so we also have the problem of everyone surviving like Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., but more than that is just the worry about the show telling a story in a post-Snap world (and in this case mere months after the Snap) and not at all addressing it. Scott came out of the Quantum Realm after over 5 years and almost immediately is horrified, but these guys it seems could be coming out of the Quantum Realm as little as a couple of months after the Snap, but for five episodes won't notice anything? Ughhhhh. Marvel Television really felt they could just get a tonne of mileage out of the vague "It's set before the Snap" comment, didn't they? It's one of the only silver linings to the cancellations.

I really, really hope this isn't what it seems - it's been 6 months for them but less time for the world (if it's the Dormammu Dark Dimension, time is different/non-existent there, if it's the Cloak Dark Dimension it seems to just have simultaneous time to the world), or there's some time travel involved so this isn't just 6 months in 2018. But by the sounds of the rest of the synopsis, with things having happened in the world while they were gone, it sounds like it's just 6 months where they've been gone.

Black Widow Trailer (additional)
Looks from the terribly deaged General Ross in the Black Widow trailer like we'll be getting pre-2010 flashbacks, despite the dialogue they play from him seemingly being about Civil War. Maybe he'll appear in both time periods, or the dialogue is edited misleadingly.

I mean, since Natasha is going to Budapest in 2016/2017, surely they will also have flashbacks to the Budapest mission, so considering the Hungarian writing behind him as well I imagine this is part of Budapest mission flashbacks. So, presumably c. 2006, considering I reckon Natasha joined S.H.I.E.L.D. around 2005 but by 2012 it seems like it's been several years.