Board Thread:Questions and Answers/@comment-98.242.89.135-20150503050854/@comment-1298029-20150510172609

TomasDerksen wrote: Icey doesn't follow this wikia anymore, He is banned. Got into others' faces one time too many, huh? I skimmed his contributions, it's true many of them were combative in tone, if sometimes originating from a valid point (e.g. I think he has the right to criticize what he perceives as characterization shortcomings; he does not, however, have the right to call someone a moron if they disagree; I'm pretty sure his ban notice read pretty much the same thing, though).

As for what Tomas meant, for the others, he meant that important characters always return. Those Ghost listed were either obviously once-off supporting characters (Erskine, Saal), characters whose demise sets up the story (e.g. Yinsen), or villains (most of Ghost's list), or unimportant tertiary characters (e.g. Carina, whose sole purpose is to set up on-screen what happens when you touch the MacGuffin). The only odd one out from the list above is, IMO, Frigga, although she was not a particularly important character overall (try counting her lines).

As for QS, he could easily come back, that's just the Marvel thing. Don't waste a superhero...

For Coulson, I don't know, but for me his original treatment didn't work so much; his death by Loki was supposed to unite the main characters in retribution, or at least resolve, but I didn't feel like I was given enough reason to care about Coulson as a person for that motivation to be beliavable. Sure, he was in all the movies, but he never did anything in there except be bland. I realize that was his thing, but he was so bland he essentially didn't have a personality beyond that.

Now, with his still-bland, but pretty deep portrayal on Agents, I care a lot more about Coulson as a person (remember he's supposed to be an audience surrogate, an ordinary man dealing with this crazy world, so the audience should care about the character), and I think that the depth added to the MCU by the perspective of an unpowered but steady guy who's not just following orders along with the faceless mooks (Shield or Hydra), but who instead has to decide how he will respond to this world, for himself as well as others he's supposed to lead, brings more into the universe than the reversal of that rather impact-less Whedon demise takes out of it.

I realize Whedon's probably sour about his creative vision being countermanded (who wouldn't, and after the way Fox so royally screwed him over with Firefly, I understand he's leery of execuMeddling), and he also may have a problem with bending to the needs of a consistent universe over individual film creators' vision for that particular work in general (I guess it's a new experience for all of Marvel's creators), but if I had to be frank, and if I could dare to criticize the great Joss Whedon (I'm not being sarcastic, I do admire his work), I think he should suck it up a bit with Coulson, as IMO his original treatment didn't work so great anyway. :) There, I said it.