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Spider-Man: Far from Home and Its Consequences on Avengers: Endgame (Marvelus)
Marvelus wrote: Spider-Man: Far from Home and Its Consequences on Avengers: Endgame (additional), what is this about? :o What I've been discussing above: You can watch Peter's To-Do List here. Still no passport shot. However, Ned asks Peter what he'll be doing on his last day in New York, implying that they leave tomorrow. This would imply that the events currently on July 2nd are June 27th, etc. to the end of the main events on July 7th being July 2nd. Except that's particularly far off from the dates we have been given. With the passport in the trailer, the posters, and recently the social media post of the passport as well - plus the fact that schools were so disrupted providing a fairly plausible reason for why school might finish 3 weeks later in the MCU in 2024 than you would otherwise assumed, I'm wondering if it might be worth adjusting for the provided dates after all. So July 24th for when Peter arrives in Berlin and the others arrive in London, the current July 6th events. Therefore July 2nd would become July 20th, and the last day of school and picking up the passport would become July 19th, lining up nicely with the fact that it should be the 19th or shortly after according to the trailer and social media post. It's a Friday, which works for the end of school.

The annoying thing being that this has a knock-on effect on Avengers: Endgame, taking it slightly implausibly to November, 5½ years on from the Snap and meaning that the supposed factual "October 2023" dates put onto the pages have to be changed - probably best to just "Fall 2023" for sticking to undeniable fact. Plus I'll have to have another look at the dates and how things change for a move to November.

I don't know, any input? I do think that I am personally probably leaning toward the main events of the film starting on July 19th rather than June 26th, now. BEJT wrote: Mrmichaelt wrote: Hmm, the only other place I remember the passport shot is on the Bluray home menu. They cycle through images and that passport shot comes up but it's the same version from the trailer. OK thanks, that's still another source.

Mrmichaelt wrote: Yeah, I think the events of the Snap stretching out the school year is a good out. They go to the effort of pointing out how they had to start their year over again even though they finished midterms so it your theory seems correct implicitly. It's not necessarily the canon explanation or something, I'm more just suggesting that I feel the Snap and Blip disruption is so monumental that there's probably wiggle room for it being those dates. Would like to hear anyone else's input.

Mrmichaelt wrote: Ha ha, that's what I thought as I read this, "Hard to say until he looks at how would the adjustment affect the 2023 parts of Endgame." It doesn't particularly cause a problem, it just feels like November is less than ideal, but oh well. I've checked and with the full moons, the full moon in Kenya (near Wakanda) would be November 27, 2023 12:16 local time, so the closest night is November 27, 2023 evening, making that day November 27, 2023 U.S. time. So it would be essentially moving everything about 30 days forward (slightly more complicated when it comes to Peter and Ned returning to school because that has to be a school day but I can work that out properly if we decide to go ahead).

I've also checked and there's no clash with Thanksgiving, which would be November 23rd in 2023 so just fall during the end montage rather than like on the day of any big events and weirdly not mentioned.

DaenerysTheMadKhal58 wrote: Changing the FFH dates to fit all the evidence seems fine, as long as it works with Endgame. Yeah it doesn't not work, it's just a little annoying.

Feige and Marvel Television (Marvelus, ProBot1227)
Marvelus wrote: One of the reasons I am not worried Marvel will reboot the MCU TV Shows is due to Gemma Chan being casted, and the rumours of having Taylor-Johnson as Maximus, and that some intel came (during the Sony-Marvel's feud) saying that Feige wanted SUoMC in the MCU, as he wanted all the characters under the same brand, and now Feige being in charge of Marvel TV could mean he wants those character in the greater MCU too, I am very sure we will get news of Charlie Cox and Vincent D'Onofrio showing up in the movies. He has said that he is excited to have D'Onofrio's Kingpin fighting Spider-Man, he said to the idea: "That would be the great thing to do". And from all the Netflix shows that stopped from showing the Avengers Tower in the posters, Daredevil is the only that hasn't.

I mean, back in the day, Kevin Feige praised the Daredevil cast and said that if one of the shows would make it to the movies, Daredevil would be the first of them. And he has admitted they are canon in the MCU (unless Inhumans, which can be taken down, sadly) and there is no coming back from that xD. I like to think that Feige is so smart that he can see gold even in the "worst" productions.

So I predict, Inhumnas will be rebooted (hoping for a soft reboot), Iron Fist is likely to be recasted (but Conrad said this is not that certain like Inhumans), Conrad is a good reliable source, so I trust in him, I didn't want to believe he was right when he published about Inhumans' reboot, but well... What can we do?

Charlie, Mike and Krysten will be back as Daredevil, Luke Cage and Jessica Jones. Come on, all of their seasons have been heavily praised, even Feige talked about how well Luke Cage was received back on 2016 and talked about wanting to do Heroes for Hire with Cage, I am only hoping he will not recast. Cage only needs more spectacularity. And I am very sure (I want to think) that Daredevil's crossover with Spider-Man in Jimmy Kimmel's was Feige's idea. To be clear, I logically don't think it will happen beyond Inhumans and definitely don't think everything will be wiped. I just can't say I'm confident, feeling secure, not on-edge. And it's hard to be logical and know what to logically feel secure about.

Gemma Chan and Aaron Taylor-Johnson isn't evidence for anything. It's usable against anyone arguing that Mahershala Ali must make the Netflix shows non-canon, but it has no relevance to what Feige is going to do. I don't think people thought that him casting Mahershala Ali was him saying "the Netflix shows aren't canon" and that their willingness to reuse other actors in some way disproves that, it was just that we felt he was neglecting and ignoring the shows and showing that he felt no responsibility to acknowledge them by even mentioning that Ali had previously played an MCU role. Just personally not acknowledging, not canonically pushing out.

When has it ever been said that he wanted the SUoMC in the MCU, because everything so far has seemed to suggest he very much doesn't and anything that ends up happening is him having to reluctantly accept it. He might want those characters, doesn't mean he wants that canon. Which is the same worry with the idea of "using the characters" from Netflix - as in literally the Netflix characters, or as in using the same source characters himself, the same way he gets to "use the characters" from Fox?

Something some people aren't also considering is actor availability. Even if Feige decides he wants to use Charlie Cox, who's to say he's available? I sincerely hope they work around that, but these are people Cox has never worked with before on the character and as far as he and everyone else stands, at least for now, they've had to move on and go on with their individual careers. Plus most of them haven't done big films before. Fingers crossed that that's all acknowledged and worked around.

I wouldn't take a quote like "That would be great" too seriously, it's a very "Feige" answer where he dodges answering a question directly with just an appeasing but not informative, nor at all promising anything, answer.

I don't think the posters are an indication of anything, only that they sometimes used Avengers Tower and sometimes didn't. Daredevil happened to just about use it in one Season 3 poster.

It can't really be a soft reboot - which usually means something that's technically a sequel but similar to a reboot in that it's either reviving a franchise that's been fairly inactive or doing its own thing without regard for the previous instalment(s) - if you're recasting everyone and doing their story again. It's just not the same characters.

As I said on the discussions section, I don't believe Jeremy Conrad was making a comment about having heard anything about the Iron Fist. He started by declaring it only a rumour, so not as reliable as his normal reports which he presents as "I know this" under the confidence that it will turn out true, which translates to us/the wider news as a rumour. So it's a rumour within a rumour. Then he said that the rumour he heard is Feige is keeping the good stuff but wanting to get rid of some of the bad stuff. And then he said so Inhumans and maybe Iron Fist, which came across more as his speculation from the rumour just that Feige wanted to get rid of some of the bad stuff, not that he had heard specifically about Iron Fist. So, while I, too trust Conrad as fairly reliable (even if I find him mildly irritating at times), specifically referring to Iron Fist is speculation within a rumour within a rumour.

If he is happy to bring back Charlie, Mike, and Krysten (and Jon?), which I really hope, that doesn't necessarily mean they "will be back", because again, the actors have had to move on, and might not be available or fully willing even if he wants to use them. Plus I don't really see how a character like Jessica Jones, or even really Luke Cage or Punisher, could fit into the big leagues. Jessica is very private and doesn't want to do anything big, just help some down-to-Earth people. Luke I can't see wanting to spend any time with any Avenger-type heroes, he would have to be more in a big discussion with them - but I can't see them using him as a main character who would get the screen time to have those discussions, so ultimately doesn't seem to fit. Punisher feels too grim for everything happening in the films or to even walk into the same room as most of those characters.

"Spectacularity" is not a word😂, also I'm not really sure what you mean.

I doubt Kevin Feige is involved in little marketing skits.

That all said, I'm holding out hope and like some of the points made here, but I can't help but also be nervous even if logically, I maybe shouldn't be?

ProBot1227 wrote: Don't... don't give me hope. Yeah, I honestly don't know whether to let myself be hopeful.

The Daily Bugle Site (additional)
Something I meant to mention before and forgot - I think the The Daily Bugle site is meant to actually be set before the credits scene of Far from Home, after the main events. If you read some of the content, it makes more sense, covering Spider-Man as a menace in a classic JJJ way, but it talks about things like Mysterio being missing, whereas by the credits scene he knows he's dead, and there is no mention of Spider-Man being Peter Parker/a wanted fugitive/killer.