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Avengers: Infinity War Timings (64SuperNintendo)
64SuperNintendo wrote: Alright.

What will happen to the timing of the sunrise and sunset in the event that evidence requires Infinity War be pushed forward to June (meaning it can no longer be daytime in Tahiti and Wakanda at the same time)? I think then we'd find a time that is as close as possible to working. So usually, like with the Iron Fist China stuff or with "I am Iron Man" being daytime in both Malibu and Russia (not possible in November), I'd look at it and say, "OK, well, based on one location it should be at least 17:00 UTC, but based on the other location it should be no later than 16:30 UTC, so I'll go with 16:45 UTC." That way it at least nearly works both ways, and you can maybe assume that the MCU sunrise/sunset times are a tiny bit different.

Although in this case, it would also mean we could bring the :54 back into play. Because if it's going to not work anyway, we might as well use it if it's reasonably convenient. So if the method I just mentioned would place it at, say, about 13:00 New York, then we could also shift it to 12:54.

So yeah, a mix of "as close as possible to working" and possibly using the :54 again.

Also there will be some more changes to the Infinity War timings. Now that there is enough time in the Thursday morning for the team to fly from the facility to Wakanda and all the Wakanda events to happen, it means that the facility scene can now be in the morning rather than having to be the Wednesday afternoon. This also matches with the clock shown in the Edinburgh scenes which I did some work on, using what we can just about see to work out the time it suggests. I've done a full breakdown of the evidence either way - for the facility being Wednesday afternoon or being Thursday morning - on the Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. draft page which I'm still editing, so you'll be able to see it fully soon. Obviously it's more than just the placement of that scene, because it has a knock-on effect on the rest of the film's scenes' timings. Nut yeah, the facility is Thursday morning and the rest of the film takes place over the following 5 hours on Thursday. The full breakdown's nearly done.

Cloak & Dagger Past Dates (CirUmeUela)
CirUmeUela wrote: Here are my flashback notes for Cloak & Dagger. The majority of the flashbacks all happen on the day of the Roxxon accident or the day after. The flashbacks in the final episode of the season all take place centuries ago. I put the 2009 flashbacks first, attempting to put them in order. Then I put the other flashbacks from the final episode after that.

Day of Accident Cloak & Dagger 1.08: Ghost Stories 0:00-2:36 Tandy practices ballet and her dad helps, Billy tells Tyrone he will be better than him, the Johnsons eat together and have a good time

Cloak & Dagger 1.07: Lotus Eaters 0:00-3:22 Mina gives her father Ivan a cookie, at the rig Ivan asks to speak to Nathan Bowen, while waiting for Nathan the rig starts to collapse

Night of Accident Cloak & Dagger 1.08: Ghost Stories 36:50-37:25 Melissa Bowen brings Nathan coffee but spills on his paperwork, he gets upset and hits her (I think this is also the day of the accident because a flashback later in this episode shows the coffee cup that spilled)

Cloak & Dagger 1.01: First Light 0:00-6:25 Tandy calls her dad to pick her up from ballet class, Tyrone steals a stereo from a car, the Roxxon oil rig explodes, Tandy’s father crashes and dies, Billy finds Tyrone with the stolen stereo and helps him run from the police, Conners shoots Billy and Tyrone jumps in the water after Billy

Cloak & Dagger 1.01: First Light 44:46-45:00 Conners freaks out right after shooting Billy, says he will call his uncle who will fix it (cut out present Tyrone)

Cloak & Dagger 1.01: First Light 6:25-8:28 Tyrone and Tandy find each other under water

Cloak & Dagger 1.01: First Light 41:06-42:00 Tandy wakes up on the beach the morning after the accident next to an unconscious Tyrone, she takes his hoodie and walks away

Cloak & Dagger 1.01: First Light 46:36-47:06 Tyrone wakes up on the beach and finds Tandy’s hair bow

Cloak & Dagger 1.08: Ghost Stories 12:20-12:56 Tandy walks the streets, steals someone’s phone and calls her house

Cloak & Dagger 1.08: Ghost Stories 17:35-18:34 Tyrone walks the streets and joins a tour crowd, the tour guide asks him where his mom is

Cloak & Dagger 1.08: Ghost Stories 21:55-22:42 Tandy gets home and finds her mom passed out on the couch, she calls the police

Cloak & Dagger 1.01: First Light 18:40-19:24 Roxxon takes everything from Tyrone’s mom, blaming her father Nathan for the explosion

Cloak & Dagger 1.01: First Light 31:08-32:30 The police say that there’s no evidence of a cop killing Billy, they show video surveillance of Tyrone stealing the stereo

Cloak & Dagger 1.08: Ghost Stories 38:42-39:04 Tandy’s mother tells her to not rely on anyone

Cloak & Dagger 1.08: Ghost Stories 39:34-39:48 Tyrone’s mother tells his father that she doesn’t feel safe anymore

Cloak & Dagger 1.08: Ghost Stories 40:02-40:30 Tyrone lays in his bed at night and Tandy lays on the couch

Cloak & Dagger 1.10: Colony Collapse 0:00-2:08 1600? During the Great Famine of the Choctaw people in the land that would become New Orleans. The Divine Pairing, a boy and girl, took it upon themselves to save the village. They checked their arms for a mark. The little girl had the mark and sacrificed her life to bring life back to the land and the food.

Notes: From Wikipedia "La Nouvelle-Orléans (New Orleans) was founded in Spring of 1718.” This famine would have been before this, so as an estimate, the famine was around 1600.

Cloak & Dagger 1.10: Colony Collapse 9:54-10:54 1730 At the time of settlement, the Wilson brothers fell in love with the same woman. A huge storm hit New Orleans and lasted as long as the feud did. Leland, the oldest brother, wore a band on his arm for the woman he loved. The brothers decided to settle the matter with a duel. But Leland did not load his gun, sacrificing himself to end the feud. When he died, the storm ended.

Notes: New Orleans was founded in 1718, and it’s said the city is young, so about 10 years later or so would fit

Cloak & Dagger 1.10: Colony Collapse 19:34-20:20 1815 A month after the War of 1812. The war ended in February 1815, placing this around March 1815. When the War of 1812 ended, fighters in Louisiana did not get the message. A messenger road to deliver the message to New Orleans. He was shot several times, including in the arm that was bandaged with an armband. He died before he could get there, but a maiden found him. She took his message and his sense of urgency. The maiden ended the war.

Cloak & Dagger 1.10: Colony Collapse 24:28-25:46 1918 The Spanish Flu hits New Orleans. Doctor Rogers fought to find a cure because his lover had gotten sick. He tied a red armband on himself and drew blood from his arm. He injects his blood into his lover then collapsed and died. When the doctor died, all of the patients with the flu sat up and were cured. Nice spot about the coffee cup. That helps place the scene where Nathan hits Melissa, because otherwise it could be been a difficult thing to place with no particular evidence other than like "at some point leading up to February 2009".

Would the second part of the Ivan scene not be right before the collapse? So the scene with Nathan hitting Melissa would probably be before the oil rig starts to collapse, with the oil rig collapse only beginning as Nathan is driving Tandy home from ballet. Otherwise yeah, I'd agree with all of that.

Thanks for the Divine Pairing flashback estimates, that will help when I rewatch the finale to take notes.