Thread:Marvelus/@comment-26838855-20190116120806/@comment-26838855-20190215105642

Daredevil: Season 2 (Rman823, Marvelus)
Rman823 wrote: Was rewatching Daredevil Season 2 and noticed in Episode 4 that one of the Irish that is looking for Frank describes him as wearing a jacket even in the middle of Summer. This would make the season’s beginning closer to 6 months (what Charlie Cox said) after Season 1 and along with the heat wave and July 20th Date of Death from the Irish Massacre victim make a Summer placement for the beginning of the season seem logical. Is there any logical way to stretch Season 2 out to begin in July and end in November (Christmas time jump excluded) ? Such as the time it takes for Frank’s trial to start. Marvelus wrote: We decided long ago that the season began on October 2015. And there is no way it can be July. I will always take it as the guy saying that the Punisher persona is so weird that he would use a jacket in summer as we know in October 2015 the MCU experimented a weird weather.

The July 20th date is not mentioned to be to the massacre seen in Bang. It is just another massacre made by the Punisher since the time he woke up.

And the time it took the trial to begin was a week. Not months. There is no possible way to stretch it. Exactly what Marvelus says, we spent a long time on that. There's no way to make it work. The online forum The Comic Board did make it work, but we respectfully strongly disagree - the way they made it work is that despite Foggy's line at the end of I believe it's Episode 6 saying Frank's trial starts "next week", they decided that you have to assume it got delayed a few months between the episodes. But the line's there, we don't find it ignore-able - plus it's very hard to believe that everything going on in their lives with Elektra and the Hand and their relationships etc. just hit the pause button for 3 or 4 months.

The only possible gap is between Episodes 3 and 4, but it's clearly no more than a few days, so there's no way to make it work. You just have to assume that there was a weirdly late heatwave in October and the line about wearing the vest even in summer is referring to the fact that he's been around for a few months including during summer where he still wore the jacket, possibly just saying that as a way of saying, "He wore it even in summer despite the heat, he'll be wearing it now as well despite the heat, he wears it no matter the weather." While the implication is that it's currently summer, it's not without flexibility, and it just can't be.

And as Marvelus says, the July 20th isn't necessarily the massacre from Episode 1. I thought it was as well after the first time I watched, but on rewatch I realised that that's never stated, and in fact it is kind of implied to not be that massacre but just one from back in July.

Which also helps with the previous thing about him being around in summer - it proves he definitely was.

Marvelus wrote: Plus, July is ruled put because in The Punisher S1 is said that it's been like a year since the Punisher began his crusade. A year before early December 2016 would take us to October-november 2015. Which works perfectly. Well they don't say since it began, just that it's been "barely a year" since the crusade, but that would imply that from start to finish the main part of his crusade, which was all shown in Daredevil: Season 2, was late 2015, before December.

Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.: Season 6 (Mrmichaelt, Marvelus, Edward Zachary Sunrose)
Mrmichaelt wrote: Agents of SHIELD Season 6 begins about 1 year after they dropped off Coulson and May in Tahiti. Thank you! That's good, I was a bit concerned from the trailer that it seemed like they'd only just picked up May from Tahiti (when they said he had a maximum of "weeks" I think in The End), meaning that when the season premiered in July 2019 it would be a year behind real time, which tends to cause more problems. I also thought that the search for Fitz would be immediate, but maybe they've just had no luck for a year.

But that's great, it catches us up nicely. And now it's been revealed that despite what Elizabeth Henstridge said, it will actually premiere in May (July did seem a bit weird because it wouldn't all air in the gap between U.S. TV seasons of May-September). Guessing late May to mid-August then, and that will mean that it will be set basically in real time.

Marvelus wrote: Yeah. Skipping Endgame and Far From Home, very clever indeed! I can't tell if that's sarcasm or not, but I think it's a good thing. All three 2019 Marvel films seem to be anomalous timeline-wise, with Captain Marvel being set in 1995, Endgame being possibly set across many years, and Far from Home being set in 2018, but I think buy and large the MCU will still move in real time. So in the same way that, while Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 was set in 2014, Spider-Man: Homecoming 2016, and Black Panther 2016, the MCU was still sort of checking in with real time, with Doctor Strange and then with Thor: Ragnarok, and then with things coming back together in real time with Avengers: Infinity War. I'm sure Black Widow will have some present day scenes, The Eternals will be at least a good chunk present day, Black Panther 2 present day, Doctor Strange 2 present day, etc..

Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. has done well with the jumping-around Phase Three timeline. One of the writers or producers or showrunners, I can't remember who, noted when Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 came out and they said there was going to be no tie-in that as well as there being no easy story way to tie it in, it was set in the past. And they didn't do a tie-in with Homecoming (although that came out between seasons) or Black Panther (which came out during the present day episodes of Season 5). The only tie-ins they did after Civil War, when things started jumping around, were Doctor Strange, Thor: Ragnarok, and Avengers: Infinity War - the present-day-set films.

Mrmichaelt wrote: Agreed, but I'm sure like BETJ, I'm a smidge nervous if/when they reference Endgame and/or Far From Home -- hope they don't try to pin them in 2019 since right now we know those two are in 2018 still. I'm just hopping for a passing reference to people vanishing and reappaering. Marvelus wrote: Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. is the best product in the MCU to not screw the timeline. So I would not worry about that. We are safe.

And I am pretty sure people will not remember the Snap at all after Endgames ends.

Nothing to worry about timeline-wise Yeah, as Marvelus says, I'm not too worried about Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. causing problems. The only times it is problematic tend to be because the films caused it problems, rather than the other way around.

It and Jessica Jones are the least problematic shows.

Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote: Like Marvelus said, AoS is as precise with the timeline as the Wiki is, they wouldn't mess it up. They're not SONY with that "8 years later" mess lol I think, with things like Coulson's obituary in Hot Potato Soup, that they might actually use the wiki timeline.

Also I'm not necessarily sure Sony were behind "8 years later". I know a lot of people just pin it on them because the big mistake that didn't align with the rest of the Marvel stuff came in the film that was a joint product with Sony, so it makes sense to make that assumption. But considering what we've heard about Eric Caroll's timeline scroll and the fact that Feige defended it initially, I think it was Marvel.