Thread:CirUmeUela/@comment-27496405-20180307074410/@comment-2112031-20180528233214

BEJT wrote:

It's tricky, but I think it comes down to Deke's line in Option Two.

"But not according to the multiverse theory."

"Mmm. I'm not sure you actually know what "multiverse" means..."

"That every choice we make spins out a different timeline into the cosmos, and right now, there are infinite parallel universes."

This suggests that the timelines are branching, not just completely separate. So there was one timeline, and then there was a choice. Whichever choice that was - say, Fitz entering the building and reminding May that Mack and Polly don't make it - happens differently, spinning off two different timelines - one where he doesn't (the timeline where Earth is destroyed), and where he does (the timeline where Earth is saved).

Assuming it is completely parallel timelines, the whole of Rewind would have to weirdly be set in an identical-until-January-2018 alternate timeline despite picking up where World's End left off.

Don't expect too much from my explanation, it's more of just an exact detailed breakdown of which events happened in which timeline. But I'm pretty sure it's tuning fork-shaped - one timeline splits off into two. And the designation comes essentially from which is the newest - the lowest line at any point is Earth-199999, and every other line above it is a discarded timeline with its own designation, such as Earth-TRN676.

It just makes more sense - for Fitz's sleep, for Deke's dialogue, for Robin feeling the shift, for Robin seeing different potential futures (essentially seeing both sides of a branch ahead, what happens down both roads that split off the one road they're driving down now, not just viewing completely separate universes). I fully agree with you on that one. The timeline was one and then split into two distinct timelines during the Battle of Chicago. It's just that the split has resulted in a paradoxical third Fitz.

On the main wiki, when multiple versions of ostensibly the same person seemingly inhabit the same universe, the attempt to separate them usually results in something being added to the article name to distinguish them.

Case in point, on Earth-TRN517, there is an article for the Cyclops of the present and another for the Cyclops of the past.

BEJT wrote:

Sounds good. I think it's a safe bet that Daisy got absorbed. It's just still uncertain how the serum was involved in the Battle of Chicago originally. Yeah, true.

BEJT wrote:

It's possible that they can now travel faster, but considering the Tahiti sunrise time, the snap can't be 10:24AM anyway - might as well be pushed to 11:24AM, it works better as the only :24 which is simultaneously daytime in Tahiti, New York/Atlanta (whichever it's meant to be), and Wakanda, as well as allowing a little bit more time for their travel to Tahiti and generally for the agents composing themselves/making the plaque/preparing for Coulson's departure at the end of The End. Fair enough, the timeline works out.

BEJT wrote:

It's possible that the flashbacks are the mid-2000s part.

Season 1 filmed Episode 1 February 8, 2017-February 24, 2017 (middle February 16, 2017), and Episodes 2-10 July 24, 2017-November 2, 2017 (middle September 12.5, 2017). So the middle of filming was ([February 16, 2017]*1+[September 12.5, 2017]*9)/10 = August 22.65, 2017.

So, depending on which episodes young Cloak and Dagger appear in (just presuming spread across the season), Maceo Smedley, who plays young Cloak, would have been about 10y6.5m old. Rachel Ryals, who plays young Dagger, has no age available. But Cloak and Dagger are likely about 8-10.

Olivia Holt would have been 20y0.5m, and Aubrey Joseph 19y9m. Considering the characters seem to still be in school, though, and generally the fact that teenagers tend to be played by actors older than themselves, the characters are probably more like 18.

So the flashbacks are likely about 7-10 years prior to the main events of the season. It's possible that, say, the show is set in 2017 when it was filmed, and the flashbacks are mid-to-late 2000s, a few years "post-Katrina". The trailers have talked about how the Divine Pairing have a link to disasters in New Orleans, so it might make sense for the flashbacks to be around Katrina and something big happen concerning the Divine Pairing, and now New Orleans is set for a new disaster in the present day. That sounds about right, having the story set in 2017 seems much more in line with the showrunner's hopes for crossovers. I suppose they could handwave it by, for example, having Cloak and Dagger somehow get stuck in the Darkforce Dimension at the end of Season 1 and not emerge from it until 2018, having not aged a day in the interim. This would allow the setting of Season 1 to be 2005-2006 and simultaneously allow the characters to eventually interact with the Runaways.

BEJT wrote:

I do kind of hope it's set in the past, it sounds like a fun idea to spread out more. However, it would also be nice to see crossovers. I don't know how feasible that is, with one at Freeform and one at Hulu, but I am always up for a crossover. Not great on the goings-on in the comics, but the Runaways and Cloak and Dagger do crossover quite a bit, right? Yes, they've crossed over on a number of occassions. The two teams originally met when Cloak and Dagger were hired by Lieutenant Flores to retrieve the Runaways. After a brief fight, Cloak and Dagger learned of PRIDE and promised to help the Runaways by contacting the Avengers. However, they were later ambushed by PRIDE and had their memories of the meeting telepathically removed, which ultimately prevented them from helping the Runaways.

For a period of time, due to their bad experiences with their parents, the Runaways actively distrusted and avoided any adult authority figures, including adult superheroes. As such, when necessary, they preferred to call in the help of Cloak and Dagger, among others, instead of, for example, Spider-Man.

BEJT wrote:

There's been a few times recently that they and the Russos have said that they considered including the Netflix characters. As great as it would be, I get it - it's a busy film, and it would also raise questions. While timeline-wise, Daredevil: Season 3 has most likely happened, as far as audiences watching, Daredevil is currently dead. And with production schedules and the different stages that the two timelines are at and things like that, it would indeed all get a bit weird for how it fits into the Netflix side of things, to make it all click together into sync. I think it would've been great if they brought back the Marvel One-Shots, releasing several short movies showing us what the other characters in the MCU were doing at the time of Infinity War.

They could've released a One-Shot about Jessica Jones by this time, another featuring Luke Cage around the same release date as Season 2 (perhaps a bit later), and so on. That way, their respective Seasons can occur, followed by One-Shots set during Infinity War, simultaneously confirming for the audience that the Seasons all occur pre-Infinity War as well as showing us what became of them after the snap.

BEJT wrote:

As for the Thanos thing, I was reading the article the other day and saw that one of the questions answered was "How Old Is Thanos?" and I went "Ooh, great!"

"Good question, I think he's really old but I don't know if I have a hard date for you [...] It didn't really matter to us."

"Great," I thought😂. "Just great"😂. Well, if it helps, the comics themselves are rather vague about it as well. According to co-creator Jim Starlin, Thanos is over hundreds of years old.

Fun fact, in the comics, Thanos was born with "Deviant Syndrome", a condition that resulted in his unusual appearance. Although this was not originally the case.

Here is some information from the comics regarding the subject of his age:
 * Thanos killed his mother around age 12, she was his 18th victim in his quest to understand who he was.
 * He left Titan around age 20 and spent over eight decades traveling on the outer rim of the Milky Way galaxy.
 * By age 100, Thanos had gathered an armada and ravaged Titan, killing millions of his kind, with only about 100 survivors total.
 * Thanos once told Gamora that he started dabbling in the occult approximately three centuries before her birth.
 * His younger brother Eros, commonly known as Starfox, is well over 1,000 years old, which is still considered young by the standards of their species.

Overall, the closest we have to an answer is that Thanos is over 1,000 years old.