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Runaways: Season 2 Connection (Marvelous 345678, Deadpooled123, Edward Zachary Sunrose, Mrmichaelt)
Marvelous 345678 wrote: In Runaways Season 2, according to the showrunners, we will have a major connection to the MCU that will connect them finally. I was wondering: the Snap or Tina Minoru's Masters of the Mystic Arts? Not sure about either. When they mentioned it, I took it more as just "We're going to have a mention of "Tony Stark" late in the season" or something like that, not a major connection but just their first proper one outside of WHiH.

Deadpooled123 wrote: The Snap in Runaways s2 is very likely Agreed.

Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote: Presumably no show will tackle the Snap, because it just wouldn't make sense to kill off half of your main cast for no reason (while still paying the actors, since you'll eventually have to bring them back).

So I'm guessing it'll be Tina being finally connected to the version from Doctor Strange. It wouldn't be hard to do. Tina's a millionaire and genius. She probably came across magic, and studied in it to bring Amy back from the dead (she even says to Nico that they're more alike than Nico would care to admit, and we see Nico attempting to revive Amy with magic in the premiere).

I would like to see the interview, though. I think they'll continue to just ignore Doctor Strange, honestly. Would be nice if they addressed it in some way though.

Marvelous 345678 wrote: I have the theory that Tina infiltrated into the Masters of the Mystic Arts when she was young. Eventually, she discovered the Staff of One and intrigued by it she started to make her own artifact which could replicate its power. When she managed to do it, Tina stopped to believe in magic, it is just science that we don't understand. In order to learn more about magic, she was an important member of the Masters of the Mystic Arts gaining the trust of several members like Drumm, Wong and Kaecilius. The day they fought the Zealots, Tina decided to run away with the original Staff of One.

In Season Two, Nico will discover her mom's book and will find the original Staff of One, and the Staff will get inside of her (like in the comics) and Nico will use the original Staff while Tina will use the one she created.

And they could connect with the Snap on a post credits scene if they want to. But Tina Minoru's connection to Doctor Strange is more likely. I am so excited about this ItsAllConnected thing. You gotta love the MCU. I like that theory for how it could work with Doctor Strange a lot, that would be a good explanation for how they're the same character. I think there would also need to be some time travel involved, for two reasons. First, Linda Louise Duan who played her in Doctor Strange was 22y1m old at the middle of filming in January 2016, whereas Brittany Ishibashi was 36y9m old at the middle of filming for Season 1 in August 2017. Tina can't really be younger than that, since Amy was born almost 19 years prior, but there's no way Linda Louise Duan looks mid-30s. Second, Tina has been around for years. It's unlikely that she could have gone off to Kamar-Taj frequently without arousing any suspicion, and she's been far too busy with her family and Wizard. Plus there's not the time between January and December 2017 for all of that to have happened. So I would say that if she was born around 1995, was about 21 in January 2017, then travelled back 19 years or so to early 1998, had Amy in late 1998/early 1999, and in December 2017 had had almost 20 years since her Kamar-Taj days, and is now about 41. I guess though that once you introduce time travel it becomes harder for it to work.

Still, I like your theory, but I don't think that it's something they'll actually do in the show sadly. They'll probably just continue to ignore it.

Mrmichaelt wrote: Cool theory. I thought the connection could be a take on Victor Mancha and reworking his connection to Ultron to fit within the MCU. An appearance of the Skrulls, coming after Jonah or something, would have been cool, but too soon for them to start appearing. But the article mentions a new set location related to the comics that might validate your magic theory. Mrmichaelt wrote: From The Hollywood Reporter. (Warning: If you haven't finished watching Cloak & Dagger season 1, there are spoilers) Marvelous 345678 wrote: Thanks! Yeah... I don't we will ever gonna see an apparition of Victor Mancha in the MCU. That ship is gone after Avengers: Age of Ultron, sadly.

According to the comics and the MCU we can get this kind of connection: Tina Minoru's connection, they will talk about reaching the Avengers for help so they can help them to defeat their parents, they will meet Cloak and Dagger, they can mention other events across the MCU and finally the ramifications of Thanos' actions. I don't think it will be a major connection sadly.

Mrmichaelt wrote: Ha ha. Yeah, I figured some there's Ultron tech on the black market like the Chiaturi's but -- yeah, it's for best if they never revisit Ultron and open that can of worms.

The article mentions the mansion was owned by a magician and I don't remember that from the comics. So if there's some famous Marvel magicians that could fit that -- maybe they're revisiting Cagliostro? Well Vulture had an Ultron head, so it's out there. I wouldn't mind revisiting that tech. Would make a change from the Chitauri tech.

Creel vs. Murdock (Marvelous 345678, Deadpooled123, The Wikia Editor)
Marvelous 345678 wrote: Guys. I am rewatching Daredevil Season One (I have all the MCU propertis in Blu Ray, at least, the ones that have been put on the market) and watching Episode 2 (Cut Man) around minute 33:40-33:43 in the subtitles it says: Creel vs. Murdock - 12 de noviembre implying that the event happened on November 12th of an unknown year (probably 2014)? It might be a mistake but like it is a Blu Ray I doubt so. Deadpooled123 wrote: 12/10/2014 sounds about right, can’t see why it would be a simple mistake :-/ @Marvelous345678 Was going to get around to correcting you guys on this, but Marvelous worked it out:

Marvelous 345678 wrote: My bad. It can't be 2014, becaue it is a flashback so it is 1994 or 1995. Yeah, it's Jack Murdock's fight against Carl Creel. 1994 would work best, because we currently have it in January 1995.

The Wikia Editor wrote: Since the match was on a Saturday, it must be in 1994. Since November 12, 1995 was a Sunday. Perfect.

Marvelous 345678 wrote: Great. So we will have to move some dates for Daredevil Season 1. Yeah, but not much. Shouldn't make too much difference. Matt's just rounding a bit in 2005 when he says it's been 10 years since his dad died. It's still after when we have Matt's accident placed in mid-1994, it's just 2 months earlier than we thought.

Ant-Man and the Wasp (Mrmichaelt)
Mrmichaelt wrote: Another source to add to the list, but in EMPIRE's Film Podcast Spoiler Special, around 9 min mark, Peyton Reed confirmed Ant-Man and The Wasp takes place over 3 days. He said, "I mean, the whole movie really takes place over a three-day period, his last three days of house arrest. In terms of how long before the Thanos event those three days were, it's undetermined." and "We have to assume Hank and Janet spent a little time in their seaside home on wherever this remote island then came back and got to work on this quantum experiment. It's undetermined but not that long a period of time." ComicBook article, Link to EMPIRE podcast special. Thanks. I listen to the Empire podcast (I actually went to see it live in February and I've had contact with them a bit on Twitter), so I always listen to the spoiler specials. However, I was still making my way through their hours of spoiler special interviews with Christopher McQuarrie for Mission: Impossible - Fallout. I get a little bit nervous when Chris, the interviewer, asks the Marvel guys about the timeline, because while it's sometimes helpful, it can also serve to contradict our timeline. So thank you for telling me ahead of time that they say this, I didn't have to get nervous.

Having now listened, yeah, it was interesting that in both interviews - Peyton Reed and Stephen Broussard - while Chris brought up specific spans of time like a couple of days/a couple of weeks between the film and Infinity War, they both dodged giving specific times and just said that they're close together but the exact span is undetermined.

Like you say, Reed also reaffirms that it's 3 days. He also reaffirms that Hope was 7 when Janet left, which we knew from Ant-Man, but it's never a bad thing when they back it up.

Chris also brought up, and they discuss among themselves later on, the weird thing with Black Widow mentioning Scott's under house arrest in Infinity War, but Reed just sort of laughed it off, he didn't really address it.

Runaways: Season 2 (Mrmichaelt, Edward Zachary Sunrose)
Mrmichaelt wrote: Runaways season 2 begins 1 day after the season 1 finale. TV Line article Interesting, thank you! "24 to 36 hours". Kind of hoping for 36 because I'm assuming they won't really address Christmas, so that would help for them to just skim over Christmas Day. If they did address Christmas though, that would help finalise the Season 1 timeline.

I think there's good and bad news here. The good news is that this means no Infinity War problems (unless there's a time jump at some point), and it was the logical place to pick up. The bad news is that, considering the first season placed itself when it was coming out, there's the slight worry that they will do that again this time without thinking about it, despite the fact that it's set immediately after. So many films and TV shows do this, where the next instalment is set a short amount of time after the previous, but while the last one was set at the time it was coming out, so is this one somehow. It's also what the general public seem to assume a lot of the time, they don't consider the previous instalment. So yeah, a little worried they'll be like "Yeah we know it's a day since Runaways: Season 1 but the evidence is now for December 2018 OK? Just don't worry about it." Still, hopefully it'll be fine.

Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote: Ooh, that's definitely interesting since Runaways was pretty much the only other show running in real time aside from SHIELD. Yeah, with Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. not back for another 11 months, we're basically now in a time where every MCU show coming out is set in the past, anywhere from 10 to 18 months before their release date. Makes sense though with Jeph Loeb's comments about everything before Avengers 4 being set pre-Infinity War.