Thread:Marvelus/@comment-27496405-20190519011243/@comment-26838855-20190531200846

Personal Lives (Marvelus)
Marvelus wrote: BEJT, thanks for wishing me luck in University! I have been doing nice lately, except for my last Physics exam. I got 7/18. Damn.

About Punisher S2 being immediately before Infinity War is exciting due to what is about to happen. It is very exciting to me that idea.

I am not stressing too much about Timeline right now man. After Homecoming... I cannot longer be destroyed >:v Hope things continue to go OK. My final exam is on Monday and then I will have, through to late September, a lot of free time. Hope to get a lot done on here!

Captain Marvel (Mrmichaelt, LoreMaster22, Marvelus)
Mrmichaelt wrote: More Captain Marvel stuff. The crash dated June 23, 1990, the June 1995 calendar, the July 1988 Guns and Roses ticket. Thanks. I did wonder when I saw the film if any of the files might have dates, or that ticket.

Shame it says 1990, otherwise we'd have a firm date for the crash. Guess it's just a picture taken a year later. Bit of a stretch but oh well.

Good to see they got the days of the week correct for June 1995.

LoreMaster22 wrote: If the crash happen in 1990. This means we need to change it from 1989 to 1990. It's explicitly 1989. That photo could say "Taken on the day of Dr. Lawson's lightspeed engine crash: 06/23/1990" and it still would be 1989.

Marvelus wrote: Nope. We know it is 1989. It id explictly dated in the movie to be 1989. That is just another piece of evidence that has like 5% of relevance. We can use the date tho. And we can say that when S.H.I.E.L.D. faked the files, they moved the accident to a year later. I don't think we should use the date since the evidence doesn't have to be thrown out if we just assume it's a later photo, therefore having no bearing on the date of the accident.

Mrmichaelt wrote: Or it was a photo taken during a follow-up visit to the crash site. Agreed.

Cloak & Dagger: Season 2 Finale (Edward Zachary Sunrose, Marvelus, Mrmichaelt)
Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote: Cloak & Dagger: We last saw Lia unconscious in the hospital. This episode ends with her doing community service by the side of the road, meaning she had time to wake up, be tried in court, and be sentenced (how she got such a light sentence is beyond me).

Since the final scene implies Tyrone and Tandy are heading from LA to L.A. (a little acronym joke) and will crossover with the Runaways, the show has to jump from October 2017 to early 2018, which is pretty reasonable given Lia's circumstances.

I wonder how long Tyrone and Tandy will be in L.A. during Season 3, as the show actually does film in Louisiana and I doubt they'd get rid of not only O'Reilly, but Mina and Evita, who are integral to the plot, not to mention Melissa and the Johnsons who carry a lot of the emotional weight in the show. I guess Lia could a lesser sentence due to being considered coerced/controlled.

The main events of the finale are actually November 4, 2017, not October. But yeah, I'm guessing there's at least a month's jump to take us to after Destiny being killed, and that lines up. And there's room in there for more of a jump to be implemented if necessary.

They don't actually say they're off to L.A. but we can assume. The reference is a bit clumsy. "Brigid said a bunch of girls were found dead on the beach, outside the city." It's intentionally a reference, but a) P.R.I.D.E. didn't just take girls, and b) as far as we know Destiny is the only one who was ever dumped on a beach, because it was the only sacrifice that failed. Oh well.

Yeah, interesting with how it might tie back to New Orleans - unless they show up in Runaways: Season 3 and are back in New Orleans by the beginning of Cloak & Dagger: Season 3. I personally don't need any more Evita, I never cared for the Voudon stuff or Chantelle and Evita as characters. But it would be weird to drop O'Reilly and the parents, and they're still overdue to give Mina more presence/character in the show.

I wonder why Tyrone can't just teleport there. Maybe there's a reason in the comics - that he has to know the place he's going to or it's more exhausting to travel greater distances or something.

Also, must admit... I don't get the acronym joke😂.

Marvelus wrote: Hell yeah!!! I cannot wait to catch up the TV Show! It's only a subtle reference at the end, though something else happens in that scene that I'd also been waiting for which I liked. I generally liked Season 2 a bit more than Season 1, though I sometimes find the show a little cringeworthy or like there's something not quite right about it. Maybe it's just because it's kind of unique in the MCU so doesn't feel like it quite fits in, and the timeline mess makes it maybe feel underproduced. And its handling of certain issues in the finale I thought were lacking subtlety or a bit odd.

But a decent season, and I quite liked Andre as a villain.

Mrmichaelt wrote: I'm stoked they set up the crossover but to explain where C&D are relative to the events of Runaways S1 and 2... it's a long way from NO and LA, and maybe they had to deal with other trouble they encountered first before making it to LA.

The pessimist in me is concerned there's the potential timeline screw ups could migrate to Runaways' timeline (Yeah, groaned at Mina's "last year" line in the season finale). But they did neatly set it the crossover. The newspaper we never get to see seems to correctly refer to the dumped bodies from Runaways season 1 which the news like WHiH covered which was December 2017 which C&D S2 should be roughly ending in. Maybe one of the few things they got right this season, heh.

Makes me wonder if the crossover will be a mini arc event in both Runaways season 3 and Cloak & Dagger season 3 (like how the CW DC shows do their annual crossovers) like 2 episodes per series for a 4 part crossover. Then at the same time, both show's season arcs continue, Magistrate and his family in Runaways and whoever the new big bad will be for C&D. Gah the Mina line... I'm so sick of this show's lack of care.

I'm also concerned about Cloak & Dagger bringing its timeline problems with it (not that Runaways is perfect, but it's not as bad with continuity). But I'm a little optimistic, because for sake of ease I'm sure they'll just say "this is set after the last time you saw both sets of characters", and that would work out reasonably well. And yeah as you say, the December 2017 does line up about right.

I would enjoy an event between the shows, though it seems unlikely since Runaways: Season 3 should be out around December/January, Cloak & Dagger: Season 3 not until a few months after I imagine, and the CW just has the one platform whereas this is two platforms (and Runaways has become an all-at-once show while Cloak & Dagger is still week-to-week).

DaenerysTheMadKhal58 wrote: C&D S2's main events end around November 4th or 5th, I think. I guess it's possible that a month passed, certainly not the worst it could be. I'm thinking they'll appear in Runaways S3 for some episodes, and then C&D S3 would open with their return to New Orleans (maybe an episode in LA still).

At this point, the 2017 placement of C&D is the only one that would make the crossover make sense. If the bodies on the beach are a recent thing (and a reference to the same in Runaways) then that's definitive confirmation that S1 of C&D takes place prior to the beginning of Runaways.

Hoping we get the crossover and it works out nicely. November 4th, correct.

I think that as Edward Zachary Sunrose points out, with Lia's sentence, a month could definitely have passed.

We're on the same page about how the crossover might work - a bit in Runaways: Season 3, and maybe a bit in Cloak & Dagger: Season 3, but yeah, I think they'll be back in New Orleans by an early point in Season 3.

Yes, this does further support 2017. Hadn't even considered that, was more just thinking about how it's nice that it works - but yes.