Thread:Marvelous 345678/@comment-24669364-20170327194916/@comment-26838855-20170428164133

Same :) BEJT wrote: With the Iron Fist past dates:

What do we know from the show?
 * Danny was born on April 1st
 * Danny was 10 at the point of the plane crash
 * The plane crash is July 2001 at the earliest
 * Ward was born September 19, 1986
 * Ward was 15 at the time of the accident, so actually it's between September 20, 2001 and September 19, 2002
 * Really it's October 24, 2001 at the earliest as the iPod came out on October 23rd (yes, it could have come out earlier in the MCU but that's not really necessary)
 * Iron Fist is 15 years after the plane crash
 * Iron Fist is 12 (said once)/13 (said a few times) years after Harold's death
 * Joy was 12 during her final summer with her dad
 * Joy was 13 when her father died

What do we know from official marketing?
 * Harold's death was 2 years after the plane crash
 * Harold's death is 2004
 * Ward stepped down from Domani Architecture in 2004 (it says Jan 2002-2004, 2 years (with no months). This can be interpreted (for if IF is 2016) as 2 years, 0 months, so Jan 2002-Jan 2004. This can also be interpreted (for if IF is 2017) as Jan 2002-any point in 2004.
 * Ward took over as CEO in December 2004
 * Ward was 18 when he took over the company

Tiny print prop
 * Says Danny is 25 in Iron Fist

What have we been told?
 * Jeph Loeb implied that Danny is 25 in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmXLDA62Y1s from 5:25 to 5:57
 * Jessica Stroup basically said that Joy was 10 at the time of the plane crash in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1tuONxoh6A from 0:50 to 1:00

I strongly believe that unless something firmly places it otherwise, that Snow Gives Way is Chinese New Year. And we agreed on that I think?

Iron Fist February-March 2016:
 * Ward is born - September 19, 1986
 * Crash - Late October 2001. 14⅓ years before show (just about close enough to 15, especially by crude 2016-2001=15, and the fact that 15 is quite a rounded number anyway. Not ideal, but manageable). Ward is 15.
 * Summer in the Hamptons - Late July 2003. The final summer before Harold dies.
 * Harold's death - Early January 2004. 12 years, 1½ months before show (should be more like 12⅓ ideally so it could be 12 by rounding but 13 by crude math, but the Twitter page put it as 2004 and Ward’s LinkedIn ideally puts it in 2004 as well). 2 years, 2½ months since the plane crash (works well as "2 years").
 * Ward steps down from Domani Architecture - January 2004. The LinkedIn page says January 2002-2004, 2 years (with no months). This could imply any point in 2004, but it could imply January 2003 too, 2 years, 0 months. He is 17, which is too young to take over the company.
 * Ward takes over Rand - Early December 2004. 2½ months after he turns 18 and is ready, Ward takes over the company.
 * From these dates it can be worked out that:
 * Harold is born - Early July 1962 to be 41 at his death.
 * Joy is born - Early November 1990 to be 10 at the crash, 12 at the Hamptons, 13 at Harold’s death.
 * Danny is born - April 1, 1991 to be 10 at the crash. This makes him nearly 25 in the show (supposed to be 25 really, but that’s not said in the show, and the prop can be chalked up to prop unreliability/rounding up to the age he is about to reach, as well as Loeb just doing 10+15=25. He doesn't specifically say Danny is 25 either. Not ideal, but manageable).

Iron Fist January-February 2017:
 * Ward is born - September 19, 1986
 * Crash - Mid-to-late March 2002.' 15 years before show. Ward is 15.
 * Summer in the Hamptons - Late July 2004. The final summer before Harold dies.
 * Harold's death - Early November 2004. 12¼ years before show (should be more like 12⅓ ideally but Ward’s LinkedIn in this interpretation hints to it being in November 2004, which still works well). 2 years, 7½ months since the plane crash (still works as 2 years, especially with the crude math of 2004-2002=2).
 * Ward steps down from Domani Architecture - Early-to-mid November 2004. The LinkedIn page says January 2002-2004, 2 years. This could imply any point in 2004, but with December 2004 being the date he takes over Rand it makes sense for this to be November, with a month for grief.
 * Ward takes over Rand - Early December 2004. Ward takes over the company, aged 18.
 * From these dates it can be worked out that:
 * Harold is born - Early May 1963 to be 41 at his death.
 * Danny is born - April 1, 1991 to be 10 at the crash. This makes him 25 in the show.
 * Joy is born - Mid-September 1990 to be 10 at the crash, 12 at the Hamptons, 13 at Harold’s death.

You can see that 2017 fits better with the past dates. However, 2016 doesn't not work.

The present day stuff points toward 2016. It was the year of the monkey, and he takes a zodiac monkey mask - but if necessary, some CNY celebrations do still just have masks of all the zodiac animals I believe. Charlie Cox said Defenders picks up a few months after Daredevil: Season 2, and Jessica Henwick said it picks up a month after Iron Fist: Season 1. This would put Iron Fist: Season 1 a couple of months after Daredevil: Season 2, which fits as February-March 2016. It also seems more like Luke has been imprisoned for a few months than a year and a few months, and it seems Claire has only been training for a few months. While she could have waited like 8 months before joining and then been training for 5 or 6 months, it makes a lot more sense for her to have joined in December 2015 after seeing the leaflet, and have trained for 2½ months. This also puts Iron Fist (and probably Defenders) pre-Sokovia Accords, which works better with the way the story is told, and might even line up with the Watchdogs Easter Egg.

So basically, we can assume 2016 unless Defenders suggests otherwise. The past dates still just about work. But I wouldn't put the timeline on there until Defenders. Any thoughts on this Iron Fist stuff?