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Modified templates
{{archive On the request of user Bold Clone, here you can vote about his proposal to modify our current character templates. You can vote for, or against his proposal. Just add your signatures and that's it.--Uskok{{sup|Hail HYDRA!}} 17:52, August 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * result=Against is the winner
 * discussion=

Here is my proposal: As things currently stand, anyone currently using or preferring the "MonoBook" wiki skin is unable to read the Character template, because all of the font is rendered as black. The proposed changes is that the template's coding design will be altered so that the white font is compatible with the MonoBook skin while leaving the Wikia's appearance intact. -- Bold  Clone  18:04, August 9, 2014 (UTC)

For

 * 1) Coluanprime (talk) 18:09, August 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * 2) Bold   Clone  18:14, August 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * 3) Coq87rouge (talk) 18:28, August 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * 4) The Director of S.H.I.E.L.D. The Director of S.H.I.E.L.D. (talk) 16:00, August 10, 2014 (UTC)
 * 5) WickedHanschen (talk) 14:54, August 12, 2014 (UTC)
 * 6) Chrisflistal (talk) 20:00, August 13, 2014 (UTC)

Against

 * 1) Shabook (talk) 17:54, August 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * 2) MCUFFTW (talk) 19:19, August 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * 3) ~Silverstream (talk) 19:57, August 9, 2014 (UTC)Silverstream
 * 4) Lowriders95s10 (talk) 19:59, August 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * 5) --Doctor Stranger (talk) 21:02, August 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * 6) Bratpack (talk) 21:40, August 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * 7) Babyrockhopper (talk) 21:40, August 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * 8) Blaublau94 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (talk) 21:58, August 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * 9) Tomas Derksen (talk) 00:39, August 10, 2014

Comments
What are the propsed modifications?Coluanprime (talk) 18:09, August 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * Look here. And remeber to sign your comments.--UskokHail HYDRA! 17:59, August 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * As things currently stand, anyone currently using or preferring the "MonoBook" wiki skin is unable to read the Character template, because all of the font is rendered as black. The proposed changes is that the template's coding design will be altered so that the white font is compatible with the MonoBook skin while leaving the Wikia's appearance intact. -- Bold  Clone  18:04, August 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * As things are, my current view of the character template is this: Thor1.png


 * In order for me to see any normal font (non-links), I must highlight the whole page so that it looks like this: Thor2.png


 * As you can guess, this is a huge hassle for me to go through any time I must use any template anywhere on this site. Hence my proposal. -- Bold  Clone  22:09, August 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * I am pretty sure that the majority of the wikia's users and visitors don't use this Monobook skin and by that, we can not choose the demands of the minority over the demands of the majority. When you change the template's background colour to gray, it makes very hard, if not saying impossible, for us (the "normal" wikia's skin users) to read the pages. You don't have to be a graphic designer to see that a white text on a gray background is something you shouldn't do. I'm sorry if it is a huge hassle for you to visit the wikia the way it is--Blaublau94 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (talk) 23:18, August 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you! That is just what I needed to hear. No one else earlier would tell me what they were seeing, which meant I could not collaborate with them to imrpove the template. That said, if you had read my comment above, you would have seen that I have found a way around that, which means the template can still be black, but the font is visible in MonoBook. -- Bold  Clone  23:22, August 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * I told you earlier, right here...--Blaublau94 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (talk) 23:36, August 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * ...You said grey-on-grey there. My aim was dark grey-(close to black)-on-white--which is what I was seeing. -- Bold  Clone  23:38, August 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * Why would you not use the the look of this wiki, like 99% of the users do, instead of the look of wikipedia, instead of changing something most agree on to something you agree on, you could also change your skin, alot easier.
 * TomasDerksen (talk) 23:28, August 9, 2014 (UTC)TomasDerksen
 * One, I am most familiar with the look of Wikipedia. Wikia is just a scrambled-up, poorly-colored mess to me.
 * Two, I am most comfortable with look of Wikipedia. I think it looks neutral, calm, and professional, as compared to having movie posters for backgrounds screaming at me for attention every time I load a page.
 * Three, if the changes work, the Wikia users won't notice anything, because like I mentioned earlier, I found a way to make the templates visually identical but mutually compatible for both skins. -- Bold  Clone  23:36, August 9, 2014 (UTC)

Well, this is the wiki about a Cinematic Universe, so that poster in the back ground is beloved. And it isn't pooorly colored at all it is black and white. I have seen your sandbox, on which you have 10 different colors, including black (Which wont work, white would). 10 different colors for those links, that would be a to much different colors, keep it simple, white on black.TomasDerksen (talk) 23:46, August 9, 2014 (UTC)TomasDerksen
 * Aesthetically speaking, the human eye is drawn to the color black, because it is so dark. Having the background be mostly black is a poor decoration choice. Additionally, the colors were to code the movies, so you could easily see which franchise they belong to. Color-coding a movie title in bold is nowhere near the scale of blacking out the background (the titles are much smaller, so even though they are a veritable rainbow of colors, their effect is considerably less). -- Bold  Clone  23:52, August 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * For one the effect is less, for another it isn't. I do not think it is a poor decoration choice at all, it is a good one, it is simpel and I like it more then white (which is quit boring). I personaly would only think it is to much difference, to busy, to have 10 different colors in a template. The effect it would have on me woul be considerably more. Luckely enough there is only a small change the templates would be changed, and even a smaller change to have templates with 10 diffent colors. It is not that I am against you, but I just do not think something should change for a minority of the people, when a majority of the people do not want it.TomasDerksen (talk) 23:57, August 9, 2014 (UTC)TomasDerksen
 * At the end of the day, it comes down to personal aesthetics. But we're not voting about my prototype templates. We're voting over whether or not I can make the Character template visible to myself and completely unchanged for you. You realize that, right? -- Bold  Clone  00:01, August 10, 2014 (UTC)
 * yes, I am aware of that and I voted against that, since you know, it was your choise to no use the skin this wiki uses, so the problems it gives to you, are not our problems.TomasDerksen (talk) 00:03, August 10, 2014 (UTC)TomasDerksen
 * I wish all users were as honest about their apathy as you are. -- Bold  Clone  00:07, August 10, 2014 (UTC)
 * Three votes for, and nine votes against. I guess this subject is settled.--UskokHail HYDRA! 15:22, August 10, 2014 (UTC)

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I would like to be an admin
{{archive Hey Marvelites (that is slang for Marvel fans, if you haven't heard)! This is Milomilk! I have been wanting to be an admin for the past 2 years. I have been even asking the admins if I could be one. I have made many of the pages and templates on the wiki including: And that is not even half. I have re-watched the MCU films numerous times to get more information for the wiki. I have been asking for this for 2 years so please nominate me. Milomilk was here 03:03, August 10, 2014 (UTC)
 * result= Bratpack, Greater good, Shabook and TomasDerksen are nominated as Admins
 * discussion=

Comments
Hello, I did not vote on whether you should be an admin or not because there is the nominations stage to go through beforehand meaning someone is to nominate you or you are to nominate yourself. I also believe an admin should not be chosen by the number of pages they have created as anybody can do that. Thank you. --Doctor Stranger (talk) 17:09, August 10, 2014 (UTC) }}

Upcoming category and template.
Hey guys,

As you might have noticed we got rid of 90% of the really wanted wantedpages, from the wantedpages list (the others are not wanted).

This does mean we have a lot of new pages without an image and even more stubs.

We currently have 124 stubs and even more imageless articles. Alot of those pages are for articles that belong to an upcoming marvel product, therefor they cannot be edited yet (as in: in universe plot and image). It can be a hard thing to do for people to filter the page they can de-stub or can place an image in, within does 124 (and more imageless) pages.

To make it more easy I wanted to make a template and category for all in-universe articles that belong to upcoming products (Agent Carter, AOS Season 2, ant-man, Capt 3, All the netflix series, AoU). The template will then replace the imageless and/or the stub templat on the page, removing it from those categories and placing it in the upcoming category.

This would decrease the amount of pages in the imageless and stub category and make it alot more easy to find the pages you can edit and to oversee the amount of pages that could be edited by no one particular.

I wanted to know if anyone does not agree with this plan.

TomasDerksen (talk) 01:17, August 11, 2014 (UTC)TomasDerksen


 * If no one objects, I start doing this tomorrow TomasDerksen (talk) 18:29, August 11, 2014 (UTC)TomasDerksen


 * Sounds good to me!Coluanprime (talk) 19:39, August 11, 2014 (UTC)


 * I've modified a little the template, to differentiate it from the stub template. Also, I've fixed the category it would automatically add the articles to, with the name used in other wikis for similar purposes. But given that I once had a similar idea about a template for upcoming characters that was disregarded by our current administrators, I would wait a little before doing so.Shabook (talk) 20:00, August 11, 2014 (UTC)


 * The admins have been online, so if they had objections (or anyone else) it could have been placed already. The content behind it, yeah that works. Thanks for improving it.TomasDerksen (talk) 20:07, August 11, 2014 (UTC)TomasDerksen


 * This is a great idea. I have one little suggestion. Since most of the info on these articles are from leaks I think we should add something that says something like "Since this has yet to be released this information is subject to change." That way people know that the content is not set in stone.Lowriders95s10 (talk) 22:18, August 11, 2014 (UTC)


 * You can edit it in, it is usefull.TomasDerksen (talk) 03:09, August 12, 2014 (UTC)TomasDerksen

I have no objections.--UskokHail HYDRA! 06:28, August 12, 2014 (UTC)

Race/Citizenship
I was thinking about adding "Citizenship" on the Race Template because when you look on the Broker character you can see his "Citizenship" is Xandarian, but his race clearly is not, as James Gunn said himself "Xandar is multi-cultural".


 * About human characters, the Citizenship can be their nacionality, like "Steve Rogers -> American" and "Camilla Reyes -> Peruvian"
 * About the non Kree characters under the Kree Empire like the Sakaarans, Korath and the Exolon Monks, it would be perfect to add "Kree Empire Citizenship" to them.
 * About Hogun, it woulb be "Vanir Asgardian"
 * About Natasha, it would be "Russian American" (Quote: "Regimes fall every day. I tend not to weep over that, I'm Russian, or I was.")
 * About Blonsky, it would be "Russian English"

And soo on...--Blaublau94 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (talk) 18:21, August 12, 2014 (UTC)


 * Looks good to me! Coluanprime (talk) 01:19, August 13, 2014 (UTC)


 * Makes a lot of sense. Greater good (talk) 01:40, August 13, 2014 (UTC)
 * I agree.--UskokHail HYDRA! 06:01, August 13, 2014 (UTC)
 * I agree.Bratpack (talk) 10:34, August 13, 2014 (UTC)
 * I agree.TomasDerksen (talk) 14:14, August 13, 2014 (UTC)TomasDerksen
 * If everyone agrees, now all we need is the admins to unlock the character template.--Blaublau94 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (talk) 15:08, August 13, 2014 (UTC)


 * Although the overall idea is great, I've seen A LOT of speculation. It is simply impossible to know the citizenship of many characters. So, just like the age or any other data, when unknown, the "citizenship" field should be left empty.Shabook (talk) 18:32, August 15, 2014 (UTC)


 * You have seen speculation, doesnt mean the one who placed it speculated it. TomasDerksen (talk) 18:48, August 15, 2014 (UTC)

Vote for new admins
{{archive Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, here you can vote for or against those who are nominated for new admins. There are only two rules: You can't vote for or against yourself, and anonymous votes (IP signatures) aren't acceptable. All voters must be part of our community.--Uskok{{sup|Hail HYDRA!}} 08:30, August 17, 2014 (UTC)
 * result=Bratpack, Greater good, Shabook, and TomasDerksen are elected as admins.
 * discussion=

Bratpack
(Uskok: Quick question: Is there such thing as co-admins? I will need help (preferably my S.O. Shabook) with code and such. So IF I get the position, can he get it too?)Bratpack (talk) 00:15, August 19, 2014 (UTC)

For

 * 1) Babyrockhopper (talk) 10:49, August 17, 2014 (UTC)
 * 2) ~Silverstream (talk) 13:05, August 17, 2014 (UTC)Silverstream
 * 3) Coq87rouge (talk) 13:06, August 17, 2014 (UTC)
 * 4) Lowriders95s10 (talk) 15:41, August 17, 2014 (UTC)
 * 5) User:Knightman92 (talk) 13:10, August 17, 2014 (UTC)
 * 6) Blaublau94 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (talk) 17:24, August 17, 2014 (UTC)
 * 7) TomasDerksen (talk) 23:34, August 17, 2014 (UTC)TomasDerksen
 * 8) --UskokHail HYDRA! 17:31, August 18, 2014 (UTC)
 * 9) -- C J S Fan On Stranger Tides, Arkham City 00:20, August 22, 2014 (UTC)
 * 10) CaptainMagnum (talk) 23:23, August 24, 2014 (UTC)

For

 * 1) Byzantinefire (talk) 16:03, August 17, 2014 (UTC)
 * 2) --UskokHail HYDRA! 17:31, August 18, 2014 (UTC)
 * 3) Chrisflistal (talk) 19:16, August 20, 2014 (UTC)
 * 4) -- C J S Fan On Stranger Tides, Arkham City 00:20, August 22, 2014 (UTC)

For

 * 1) Bratpack (talk) 10:05, August 17, 2014 (UTC)
 * 2) Lowriders95s10 (talk) 15:41, August 17, 2014 (UTC)
 * 3) Coluanprime (talk) 18:06, August 17, 2014 (UTC)
 * 4) MCUFFTW (talk) 23:25, August 17, 2014 (UTC)
 * 5) --UskokHail HYDRA! 17:31, August 18, 2014 (UTC)
 * 6) ~Silverstream (talk) 02:41, August 19, 2014 (UTC)Silverstream
 * 7) Chrisflistal (talk) 19:16, August 20, 2014 (UTC)
 * 8) -- C J S Fan On Stranger Tides, Arkham City 00:20, August 22, 2014 (UTC)

Against

 * 1) TomasDerksen (talk) 10:55, August 23, 2014 (UTC)TomasDerksen
 * 2) CaptainMagnum (talk) 23:23, August 24, 2014 (UTC)

For

 * 1) Bratpack (talk) 10:06, August 17, 2014 (UTC)
 * 2) Chrisflistal (talk) 19:16, August 20, 2014 (UTC)
 * 3) CaptainMagnum (talk) 23:23, August 24, 2014 (UTC)

Comments

 * About Bratpack's question, it works the other way too, IF I get the position, I'd like him as an admin too, there is enough work in the wiki for both of us, and as we've worked many times as a good team, I think the whole community would benefit with having both as admins. Thank you!Shabook (talk) 00:18, August 19, 2014 (UTC)
 * When does voting end?Coluanprime (talk) 00:31, August 22, 2014 (UTC)
 * On Monday the 25th.--UskokHail HYDRA! 18:39, August 22, 2014 (UTC)
 * With ten votes for him and none against him, Bratpack is elected as an admin. With four votes for him and none against him, Greater good is elected as an admin. With eight votes for him and two against him, Shabook is elected as an admin. With three votes for him and none against him, TomasDerksen is elected as an admin. Congratulations to all new admins. You will be promoted by the Central Wiki staff during the course of the day.--UskokHail HYDRA! 06:54, August 25, 2014 (UTC)

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Additions to the Wiki
I have three possible additions to the wiki I would like to bring to your awareness...

1. On the List of Minor Characters, the template could be changed or edited so that a user is able to click on the image and see it instead of it bringing them to the actor's page. I'm not great with templates but I think it'd be possible.

2. On pages such as Chris Evans or Reed Diamond, where it lists other actors who have been in Marvel movies by other studios, this could be changed into a category so someone doesn't have to go to all those pages and add a name everytime a person joins that requirement.

3. Similar to number two, a category could be made for actors who portray multiple characters inside the MCU like Patton Oswalt or Laura Haddock.

Thank you for your time and I look forward to your response,

Babyrockhopper (talk) 18:01, August 17, 2014 (UTC)

I agree with all of these, it had been bugging me some too.Coluanprime (talk) 18:12, August 17, 2014 (UTC)

I agreeTomasDerksen (talk) 18:25, August 17, 2014 (UTC)TomasDerksen

I added the category for Number #3, as Category:Actors with Different MCU Roles. If anyone thinks of a better name, we can discuss it here.Shabook (talk) 01:35, August 22, 2014 (UTC)

Proliferance of New Categories
In these past days, I've been cleaning up a ton of different "useless" things in the wiki, and one that caught my attention was the different files for each image of each actor in each film premiere they attended, which is funny as actors' pages only use a single image, and therefore, that means a lot of unused and unneeded files. But what is really starting to worry me is the proliferance of new minor categories, for example: I think there is need of a clear policy about this, before we start to see more wild things...Shabook (talk) 20:09, September 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * 1) Is it really needed to have different categories for the actors depending on which comic book adaptation they appeared? I mean, for the purpose of this wiki, Jon Favreau's Foggy Nelson is just as outside of the MCU as Tommy Lee Jones' Two Face.
 * 2) It was really needed to add ten new categories intended to be created just for the article about Nick Fury, each one for each different comic he appeared? I deleted them because, simply, it wasn't practical to "spam" the articles with so many categories. If allowed, how many new categories would Coulson or Black Widow have then? Maybe a general category for characters appearing in the tie-in comics, but not a category for each comic.
 * 3) The "Marvel properties not owned by Marvel Studios", is it really needed? They are unrelated, and not even Kevin Feige is sure about which rights he himself owns and which ones he does not. Does each unrelated Easter Egg need a category?


 * That's why I don't like all these "This-movie-Characters" categories. I think we should remove all those categories and replace them with templates for each film's characters. Maybe we should make similar templates for the video game characters and comic book characters. As for new categories, I think every new category should first be approved by the majority of the admins.--UskokHail HYDRA! 10:50, September 3, 2014 (UTC)


 * Before I became an admin, I said only admin should make categories to keep it strictly within the wiki's mission specs. Would that help? I agree that new categories should be up for vote. I like the old ways where comic book characters did not have a category. My failure as an admin was in not asking the past ones their policies and concerns so that it can be seen by all, so all can know this wiki's mission. Is there any way to have a meeting so that it can be known and things put solidln on the table?...Bratpack (talk) 11:13, September 3, 2014 (UTC)


 * Here are my first proposals:


 * 1) Change back the categories for actors in other comic book movies to a single category with a CLEAR name, that would cover every comic book adaptation outside the MCU, no matter if it's marvel, DC, movie, tv series, etc., as it is specified in the trivia of each actor
 * 2) Delete the category "Marvel properties not owned by Marvel Studios", honestly, I can't see its usefulness, as the elements placed are not even remotely related for the purpose of this wiki.
 * 3) Group together all the recently created categories about the One-Shots crew members, just like it has been done with the Category:Marvel One-Shots Locations, Category:Marvel One-Shots Items and Category:Marvel One-Shots Weapons