Thread:CirUmeUela/@comment-27496405-20180307074410/@comment-26838855-20180613180755

Marvelous 345678 wrote: I just realized that Ant-Man was moved a few days later. Does it need a reference? I'll clean up all references in my summer, starting in a couple of weeks. One of the many things on my to-do list. Nothing's wrong in the references, it just needs formatting like a bunch of the references do.

I was correcting the placements for Ant-Man. 2 or 3 years ago, some time after the film was released, someone moved the scene with Darren Cross presenting the Yellowjacket Suit early in the film back to July 13th, 4 days before the film even starts. And because the third act date relies on this scene, as Carson says in this scene that he'll be back in "2 weeks", having this scene wrong offset the rest of the film's placements. I remember leaving a message on the 2015 talk page way back asking why it had been moved - I wasn't a confident enough editor at the time to correct it myself. It lingered incorrectly for a long time. Then I think I gained the confidence to correct it eventually, but moved it to the 17th, misremembering the scene as being immediately after Scott's release (when, in fact, it's after Scott gets fired from Baskin'-Robbins several days later). As I was writing my "8 years later" blog and mentioned Ant-Man I realised what I was saying didn't quite match the 2015 page, and the Ant-Man and the Wasp Prelude also made me realise something wasn't quite right, and that it had been years since I had last looked at the Ant-Man timeline to check that it still made sense - I've learned a lot since then, and it would be worth revisiting for confidence in its placements. On rewatching the film before Infinity War, I corrected things.

Deadpooled123 wrote: Hopefully there will be more details in Episode 3 and beyond considering the season of C&D only have 10 episodes.

In hindsight, moving on to other shows, l am expecting Agents of SHIELD to continue on where Infinity War left us at the ending post Thanos's snap. If Marvel Television is separate from Marvel Studios yet have Agents of SHIELD reference Thanos, it's quite clear the movies and tv shows have always intended to be connected right from 2008. If any MCU viewer, doesn't understand this which l've read numerous posts and comments, then it's ultimately their issue and not Marvel Studios themselves.

An interesting theory l watched on YouTube - what if everybody is dead and that the reality that we witnessed at the end is the Reality Stone doing it's ultimate work? Made me think a little as the Reality Stone does best when with the other stones. Not sure with Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. following Infinity War, it depends on a bunch of factors. I discussed it here.

I think the deaths are as they seem, honestly. It seems to me that Avengers 4 is basically going to be, "Half the universe is dead. Now what?"

Marvelous 345678 wrote: In my opinion, it is not a matter of connection but about "secrets" from the last chapter of Marvel Studios' last 10 years... As opposite to other movies, Feige and others will not reveal details about the upcoming movies for the sake of all it's connected.

Marvel TV Shows and Movies have been intended to share the same universe since 2012-2013. They are all on the same universe. But some MCU viewer do not understand that there are more important things than just "It's all connected". Yeah. Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. was too reliant on the films to begin with, to its own detriment - sort of treading water between films. It forged its own path and became a better show for it.

And I love the crossovers and wish there were more - that it didn't feel like the only feasible crossovers these days are between the Netflix shows, and Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. giving passing mention to film events, because I don't get excited about any potential crossovers anymore as it just feels like I'd be getting my hopes up for nothing. But once I've accepted that a lot of this stuff is its own thing, I can enjoy them in their own right and see it as broadening all these different corners of the universe.

"It's all connected" was great to begin with, mainly promoting Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. as like the show of the MCU. And it would be great if it were still a thing, but they don't really use that term anymore, and once you accept it and check your crossover expectations, the shows as they exist are more enjoyable.