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Rodangizzardcrusher3 wrote: Marvelfan94 wrote: True dat!. Vision was the best live-action Superman besides Christopher Reeve.

Though as far as MoS is concerned, it's portrail of Clark was the least of that film's problems.

After i saw the movie (which was on a purchased dvd, that i have not watched since then, btw) i just thought to myself: ...Wow!, that was just a bunch of NOTHING!, ugh!.

That movie was completely devoid of substance, story, character, emotional residence, charm, wonder, logic etc.

It was just a massive, GIANT, waste of time, money, energy and life.

So yeah, didn't really care for it. I think the worst thing about Man of Steel was, for all it's flaws, that it had so much potential. It was a good Superman movie that tried too hard to be Nolan's Dark Knight trilogy, and that ended up being a bad Superman movie.

It's trying to start a DCCU straight away to compete with the upcoming Infinity War movies, but it's too rushed. The best thing about the MCU's story is the pacing, it lets you get to know each character in their own movie and then brings them all together in the end. DCCU is spending so much time making Batman vs Superman a good movie, but it can't really be a Batman and Superman film when it also has the entire Justice League in it too.

It's basically a superhero version of most non-Disney animated movies in the 90s. It's not being made because the writers have a good story they want to tell, they just want to use a popular formula in an attempt to cash in on Marvel, Fox and even their own success. The only reason BvS even mentions the ending of MOS is because the intended audience hated it and wanted to see Superman react to it. And despite probably the best casting so far in the DCCU, Jared Leto's Joker is just painful to watch, because he looks like a tattooed cosplayer doing a really bad Heath Ledger impression. Probably one thing we can all agree was good about Andrew Garfield's Spiderman is that he wasn't just a cardboard cutout of Tobey Maguire's Spiderman and he actually tried something different.

One major difference between Zack Snyder and Joss Whedon is, Joss Whedon writes what he wants to see, not what the intended audience wants to see. Zack Snyder tries to copy good ideas from Marvel but overdoes them so much they end up being bad ideas. The MCU movies are okay with showing that their heroes aren't perfect(Iron Man being arrogant, GOTG and Ant Man being criminals), but they still show the character's redemptive qualities. When DC tried the imperfect thing, they overdid it to the point of Superman no longer being likeable. I actually rather liked the TASM films, especially the first one, and was kinda sad when they pulled the plug on the series. I would really have liked to see the conclusion to that story. Maybe throw Carnage, MJ, and the Daily Bugle in part 3, and then 1 or 2 movies with the S6, and they could've had a really good series of Spidey movies. Oh well. :(

Then again, there's a good chance that Marvel Studios will themselves utilize these things at some point, so i guess it's not all sad.