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Marvelfan94 wrote: Well Rodan, i can see what you mean, but i can't help but feel that you're nitpicking a bit now. After all, there's no longer anything truly new under the sun anymore. So just because a certain shot, scene, line or moment is similar to another, that doesn't mean that it's ripping that movie off. Also, pretty much all blockbusters nowadays follow a similar structure and pattern. So most action scenes

Besides, if i were to say something negative about SW in the film, it'd be that i think her character arc was pretty rushed. Which i think was far more irksome.

The film often had jokey dialogue at times were things should have been alot more emotionally heavy. Like the scene you mentioned, where she's convinced by Clint to become an avenger. I really wish that speech had been more dramatic. To show the gravity of the situation. Instead of just: ''Hey look, i'm fighting robots with a bow and arrow, and i'm pointing out how silly that is, because "self-aware"!. Hey you, stop being such a wuss, and fulfill your role of helping out during the climax'' I think since Scarlet Witch was going to appear again anyway, Joss Whedon just didn't try with her. It's as if he doesn't really care about her as much as the other characters.

It feels as if he was trying to make her the next kick-a**(kind of ironic) female character so she could take Black Widow's place in the franchise after Infinity War, but he just missed horribly. Black Widow is a complex character and probably the least predictable in the entire MCU, whereas "I have a tragic past so I'm angry with everyone!" basically sums up Wanda's entire personality.

We've seen four movies featuring Black Widow, yet we've only scratched the surface of her origin story, whereas Wanda's entire backstory is summed up in a two minute monologue when she and Quicksilver meet Ultron.

And even Hawkeye seems like a useless character at first, but he can fight with weapons other than a bow. Scarlet Witch is ENTIRELY dependent on her superpowers. She missed Hawkeye with mind control and she had no other defence. He just took her down instantly. What is she going to do when the Avengers are in the middle of a battle with the HYDRA and her powers suddenly stop working(like Peter Parker's in Spider-Man 2)? The others are fighting the bad guys so they can't help her, she'd be seeing her family again quicker than the Quinjet bullets.

Before I watched the movie, I expected that Whedon would give his own unique spin on her powers. Like with Quicksilver, he actually shows Pietro getting tired after running, and I thought Whedon would do something that would tease Scarlet Witch's reality warping abilities, instead of simply giving her watered down versions of the powers Loki got from the Scepter the first time round. I mean come on, he gave Quicksilver and Vision brand new powers but he couldn't give her any?

And, in my opinion, Scarlet Witch is sort of interesting, but she shouldn't really have her own movie. Elizabeth Olsen herself has admitted this, unless it's adapting House of M. But even then, I think Scarlet Witch is to the MCU what the Minions are to Despicable Me. They're popular and quite famous characters, but they're just not interesting enough to carry their own film.

The most interesting thing about both Maximoffs is their family. Having Magneto as Quicksilver's father in the X-Men movies makes up for a lack of Scarlet Witch, but now there is no family for Scarlet Witch's character to work off of.

And probably the biggest flaw with the character: the battle scene. Instead of making her fear of war an interesting arc that develops over the course of AOU, he just threw it into the middle of that battle for no reason. She's never shown fear before that scene and never shows it after, so the scene with her and Hawkeye feels unnecessary. you could just cut out the scene from the movie and nothing would change.