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Iron Man Mention in AKA Everything (Marvelus, ProBot1227)
Marvelus wrote: Maybe they are talking about Iron Man's disappearance in New York :o Thought that might be where your mind was going. The scene should really be on a Sunday, while Tony's disappearance should be a Wednesday, so it can't really actually be that. But it's nice to sort of think of it in that approximate way if indeed it is around the same time.

ProBot1227 wrote: "Oh ???? say Iron Man"?

What ever they were talking about involved Iron Man. Marvelus wrote: Again, it might be a tie in to Infinity War, and if we get this corroborated, we might have a firm statement that contradicts the "Mother's Day" line.

I might be blowing up this out of proportion but, just think about it :3 If I'm perfectly honest, I do think that's a bit of a stretch. It's likely just purely an Iron Man nod. As I mentioned on the discussions, if they were going to give an Infinity War nod it would make sense for it to be in the final ever Marvel Netflix scene, as a "Hey, we've been behind Infinity War all this time, now imagine, if you will, that just after we finish, we finally get there", but still, I doubt it. It's a nice notion, but not an actual factor I believe, nor something that can be corroborated. But if it were, that would be cool.

Captain Marvel 1989 (CirUmeUela)
CirUmeUela wrote: Oh yes, I didn't put the 1989 flashback on there, when Carol gets her powers in the crash, because it was already on the timeline. This part...

1988? - Captain Marvel 14:10-14:54 Air Force hanger, Carol talking to Maria Rambeau, about to do a test flight (memories altered by Skrulls?)

...is from early in the film when Talos is probing Vers's mind and looking at her memories. They replay it about three times to get the alias of Mar-Vell from her nametag. So I'm just assuming this was a different occasion than the crash where she got her powers, so maybe another flight test. But it could still be 1989 or even the same day as the crash. Sorry, I only skim-read so seeing all the 1988s at the end I thought there might have been a mistake. Anyway, will let you know once I've done the dates. Sorry that I can't be of much help before then.

Erik Selvig (Edward Zachary Sunrose, Marvelus, Shabook, Edward Zachary Sunrose, ProBot1227)
Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote: Wait, what's the Selvig problem? Is it that he's the main character in the novel and reported as missing in Endgame? He could've just been underground searching for Jane with Darcy. I'm sure quite a few people got lost in the shuffle during the first few months of the Snap. I've read the book, he's essentially gone off the grid for the few months since the Snap (the book is set a few months after). Darcy gets a call from him in the middle of the night to come and meet him at the motel he's been staying at, but she hasn't heard from him otherwise since the Snap, and he's been living in this motel in the middle of nowhere, working all night and taking occasional naps in the day, going crazy as he tries to figure everything out, causing a mess, and avoiding human contact except with this 12-year-old boy called Felix who he befriends. It's more than possible that 23 days after the Snap, he was still missing. The book also establishes that Jane managed to disappear, without people knowing whether she was alive or not (she's alive), and Endgame establishes that mistakes happened concerning people who disappeared at the time of the Snap being listed, with Scott Lang.

I don't really think it's much of a problem personally, but some do.

Marvelus wrote: To the admins' eye, that is speculation. And the movies are the lead dog, so "non canon". Shabook wrote: To the admins' eye, and to everyone who knows the meaning of that word. Stop picturing admins as the bad guys. I think the difference is that this isn't about speculating something that might've happened, but rather just, "Well something must have happened" and then just speculating what that thing might have been. The focus is on the fact that there are possibilities, not the specific possibility.

As ProBot1227 goes on to mention, there's the Guardians of the Galaxy Prelude, being canon, and then Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 contradicting it somewhat. But there are options. Maybe when she talks about the flesh of her arm she just means it's attached to her flesh. Maybe when Thanos pulls it out the pain comes from the fact that, while he's pulling on the bionic arm, at the joint at the shoulder there is still flesh being torn. Maybe she just means he pulled her bionic arm out. To pick one as canon would be speculation, but to just say that they're not incompatible is not, that's a fact so long as there are any options (within reason, I always found the "Maybe Fury is just in disguise in Nick Fury: Spies Like Us with an eye-patch that happens to be on the same eye he later wears an eye-patch on" stretching too far, but then also Nick Fury: Spies Like Us was only "inspired", disposable canon). And Avengers: Endgame and Marvel's Avengers: Infinity War: The Cosmic Quest Volume Two: Aftermath are definitely not incompatible, especially considering what Aftermath says Selvig has been doing, they're more compatible than Guardians of the Galaxy Prelude and Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2. So there's no need to throw it out, in our opinion.

The "maybe he was..." whatever is definitely speculation to everyone who knows the meaning of that word, but I hope you'll see why we don't believe saying they aren't incompatible aren't.

Marvelus wrote: It was not clearly my intention to make you look as the bad guys, sorry for the misunderstanding. While there might be a valid explanation to why Selvig is considered dead (as the book, I think, explains that he went "off the ground" to not be found.) we cannot use that as a fact. Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote: Not to step on toes, but speculation is kind of necessary sometimes, as we don't see 100% of these characters' lives. I mean, I'm not saying craft a 20-chapter fan-fiction about how Man-Thing went from being in SHIELD's custody to fighting on Sakaar, but in times of "regular" disasters (or regular in comparison to the disappearance of half of all life), survivors here and there do tend to disappear and be mistaken for casualties until they turn up later. Selvig not only has a talent for going off the grid, he has a history of it, both of which were shown in the Dark World, where he'd been missing for quite a while until he snapped and streaked across Stonehenge. While it is certainly speculation that he would go off the grid during the first few months of the Snap, it's not a particularly unrealistic one. ProBot1227 wrote: Didn't the author say the book was canon at some point? If so, why not treat this like Guardians of the Galaxy: Prelude, using perspective to explain why it works? I'd argue that this book works better than that comic anyways. It hasn't been explicitly said that these are official canon, so that's a chunk of the problem, unlike the Guardians of the Galaxy Prelude which is official canon. He explained when Volume One: Beginning was set in the timeline, implying canon, and everything about the way Marvel have promoted these books, labelled them, linked them, and dispelled other ones that are non-canon such as Thanos: Titan Consumed, as well as Will Corona Pilgrim overseeing them the same way as the comics, implies they are canon. But we are indeed waiting on an official confirmation. That's part of what I've contacted Snider about, asking specifically not just for his word but if he were told something by someone higher like Will Corona Pilgrim (the writer just saying for themselves that it's canon is not massively authoritative).

Hopefully I get a response soon to clear things up.