Thread:CirUmeUela/@comment-27496405-20180307074410/@comment-26838855-20180707001007

When I posted my big response earlier, I said I was going to post an individual extra message copy-and-pasting what I said about Ant-Man and the Wasp spoilers, because I knew some people wouldn't read the whole thing, and I really wanted to make sure all users on the thread read it. I was going to wait until a few more responses came in for my big response, so that the message didn't get lost in the comments, but I feel it's necessary now.

Ben 1,000,911, it's OK, you're new, don't worry, but I need to stress this. Ant-Man and the Wasp does not release here in the U.K. for another month, and it's going to be a massive struggle.

=ALL USERS ON THIS THREAD PLEASE CAN YOU READ THE BELOW= BEJT wrote: OK, the Ant-Man and the Wasp spoilers situation. I can't see the film until August 3rd, because it's not released in the U.K. until then. If I can ask for a bit of cooperation, that would be helpful. Here's a few things I'd like to ask: Thanks for helping guys. =ALL USERS ON THIS THREAD PLEASE CAN YOU READ THE ABOVE=
 * When we discuss the film on this conversation, until the night of August 3rd, please can we keep things as spoiler-free as possible.
 * However, I would love to hear all timeline notes people have - how many days the film lasts, if there's any gaps, any mentions to events happening "x years ago", etc.. But could we please avoid an order of events or explanation of any scenes.
 * There is an inherent spoiler in the timeline placement of the film - how it will fit into Infinity War. I am very much expecting a connection, so I'm OK with you guys saying "It's set in the days preceding Infinity War," or something like that. If it's set during, I'd rather not know specifically, but maybe a, "Yeah, it's set in the same week as Infinity War." I'd also like to not be told specifically if the tie-in section is in the ending or in the mid-credits scene or in the post-credits scene or whatever. And I'd like to just in general not know the credits scenes.
 * I will have to edit the 2018 page a lot in the next month. However, people are going to be editing the 2018 page with Ant-Man and the Wasp spoilers, and the events could even very well be happening in the same section as Infinity War, which is the section I'll be editing. This is where Marvelous helping comes in. I'm going to copy the 2018 page, as it stands, into the Phase Three user page, and edit there. Marvelous, if I make an edit saying "2018 edit - Correcting AoS Episode 19" or something like that, could you then copy and paste it into the correct section on the actual 2018 page, with the description, "BEJT can't check the page because he is avoiding AMatW spoilers. His edit: Correcting AoS Episode 19", replacing the "Correcting AoS Episode 19" part with whatever my description is for that particular edit, basically using the template "BEJT can't check the page because he is avoiding AMatW spoilers. His edit: [X, Y, Z]"? That would be great, because it allows me to edit 2018 without stumbling upon spoilers. Hope it's not a big ask.
 * If you guys need to discuss spoilers, instead of just using spoiler tags on this discussion, could you instead perhaps open another spin-off thread to discuss it with spoilers? Because it will be hard for me to avoid the spoilers on this thread for a whole month, even with spoiler tags - I want to still be very much around on this thread, and don't want to have to keep being very careful every day, because I know I'll eventually slip up.

So I cannot read any of your message Ben 1,000,911, sorry. Not for another month. And it's a precarious message I have to keep making sure I skim over without seeing anything in it.

If there's a way that you can communicate your points while still fitting within the spoiler level I've laid out in the message above, I can communicate and discuss.

If this is to do with the fact that Scott's house arrest is coming to an end after 2 exact years, not just a general "2 years", and the fact that this film most likely has some sort of Infinity War tie-in at the end or in a credits scene or whatever, thus placing Infinity War in June 2018 - I'm aware, from what some critics mentioned in reviews. This was what I had to say so far on the matter, before any general audiences had seen the film: BEJT wrote: OK the Ant-Man and the Wasp problem. Reviews are suggesting that the film is set "days" from the end of Scott's 2-year house arrest sentence. This would mean that it's set in June 2018, about 23.5 months after Captain America: Civil War. With it being set before Infinity War, that would put Infinity War in June 2018.

This does fit better with Infinity War itself - the evidence for that film on its own placed it around June, from it being 2 years since Civil War/4 years since Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2/6 years since The Avengers and the weather shown in the film.

It does not particularly fit with Thor: Ragnarok, with over 6 months having to pass between the films. But that's not the end of the world.

But Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. would get messed up. I would say that if necessary, the 12-06-2017 could be ignored, but we have the "Tidings of comfort of joy" mention and the few times we're told they were only away for "months", really suggesting they do get back in December. Then there's a small break, and then Episodes 14-22 are consecutive and linked with Infinity War. There is pretty much no way the jump between Episodes 13 and 14 is 6 months, because they play it like it's only been about a week, and they're still dealing with the rift, which is starting to reopen - it's not only starting to reopen a whole 6 months later. They're not only just starting to calibrate Yo-Yo's arms 6 months later. It would mean that for some reason, absolutely nothing happened in 6 months. Snow is shown in Episode 14 as well, which doesn't work with June, and Coulson still says in Episode 15 that they've only been missing for "months", when it would be over a year at this point.

We'll see how things play out, but we might just have to make compromises with Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. and Thor: Ragnarok. If Ant-Man and the Wasp firmly places Infinity War, then so be it, I guess. It's just frustrating, but we'll deal with it, we always do. I've had no confirmation of this stuff or further information about it in the time since I posted that, because I've been unable to open things like the discussions about the timeline like I usually would, because people are posting spoilers.

This is going to be a really hard month.