Thread:Marvelous 345678/@comment-27496405-20180723185324/@comment-3095612-20190102053958

BEJT wrote: I just don't think that I will ever be able to feel that it escalates above "pretty good" if it decides to just stay safe. And that's fine if the show wants to take that space as a safe, light, fun show. And Cloak & Dagger I do think allows itself to take a few more risks and go a bit deeper and therefore, if it pays off, can rise a bit higher and be a better show.

I also have a few nitpicks about the way both shows think supposedly-16-year-olds look/act but overall, could be worse in that aspect. Well said. For me, I think they came out at just the right time. It was refreshing to have new stories from the POV of teens instead of adult superheroes or spy organizations and adds a new layer to the MCU. For the longest time, before these shows and Spider-Man came along, I'd wager the youngest 'major starring role' character was Daisy but she's like in her 20s already aside from small roles like Harley or Robin.

BEJT wrote: True, they might not have absolute scientific proof from that sort of standpoint, though I did feel the dialogue sounded like they were people who never encountered aliens before and their time with Jonah was their only reason for suspicion. Point taken.

BEJT wrote: more like "awaiting personal experience to 100% fully believe". That's how I'm going to take it anyway, that they understand that it would perhaps be irrational to not believe in aliens after New York and Greenwich, but as scientists, they do want to see it for themselves to truly believe. Yeah, that's a good way to put it.

BEJT wrote: Late in the season, Frank recognises the voice of the New York bomber and realises it's the young man from Curtis' support group. He gives a description to Micro and Micro finds his identity: Lewis Wilson. He pulls up his driver license, which shows his date of birth is May 1991, and then Micro says moments later that he's "26", which (since it's late in the year), would make it late 2017 rather than late 2016. Everything else worked fine as 2016 until that one moment. It's exactly like the Aaron Davis mistake in Spider-Man: Homecoming where they show he was born April 1984 and say he's "33" rather than "32". Oh ok. Right, right. One of the weird math moments of the MCU. Thanks!

BEJT wrote: Maybe, though if it's starting around late February/early March, hopefully it should all fit in before the end of March. We shall see. ha ha. Wow, so potentially, from a chronological in-universe standpoint, it's looking like Punisher S2 will be the most recent and last event of the Netflix shows. Rather than Jessica Jones S3.

BEJT wrote: This was part of why I waited to buy them. They're kind of for younger readers so I doubt they're going to particularly entertain me, so I didn't want to waste money only to find out they were non-canon. Plus I didn't really know where to draw the line because there's a bunch of MCU books. But something about these was getting them more promoted and discussed, and it took me a while to realise (it also wasn't clear from some of the excerpts) that these are (albeit with quite a bit of recap in some of them) actual original stories, and the rest are adaptations, full ones or junior ones or kids' little book things about one scene or whatever.

As for canon, I think at this point that yes, they are. I think these four are pretty much official canon just without anyone high up having actually said it, which is a shame. Would be nice. But I believe these are the only four original story official canon MCU books, so I'm trying to catch them early now in case they keep bringing a few out a year and I get behind - plus, it's weird having watched and read everything in the MCU canon except for these. Thanks for all the info.
 * Marvel promoted the first two especially when they don't promote the other books.
 * The "Marvel's Avengers: Infinity War" in the two Cosmic Quest books' titles very much implies they're official film tie-ins.
 * Brandon T. Snider considers them part of the MCU timeline at least.
 * Marvel have run articles themselves about both Cosmic Quest books and how the first is set between Ragnarok and Infinity War and how the second is the aftermath of Infinity War: 1, 2.
 * It seems fairly clear that the Cosmic Quest books are canon at least and with the Heroes' Journey first book being promoted with it as part of a burst of "read official tie-in content before Infinity War" and the fact that books like Thanos: Titan Consumed do get specifically said to be non-canon, I'd definitely say the Heroes' Journey books are intended as official canon.