Thread:Marvelous 345678/@comment-27496405-20180723185324/@comment-3095612-20190102000411

BEJT wrote: I actually preferred Cloak & Dagger to Runaways I think, though I felt it ended really flat in the finale. Me, too. Something I noticed was the "Runaways" finales tend to, how do I phrase it... run out of real estate and just hits the gas on us. But different showrunners have different ideas on how to structure a season finale and "Cloak & Dagger" had a better one, but imo, they were a smaller cast to deal with and "Runaways" had to juggle the Runaways, the fall of PRIDE, and the Gibborim.

BEJT wrote: It's "2 o'clock on a Wednesday". This is problematic because it's seemingly been 8 days (and definitely at least 7) since Gert says it was Thursday, and while there's a few potential gaps in between then and now, they're all 75 or more per cent eliminated. So we have a decision to make, either slip in gaps to add an extra 5 days, which is quite a stretch, or we assume that this is actually Wednesday and not Friday, so when Gert said it was Thursday, it was actually Tuesday - there's some slight wiggle room there because they were joking around a bit. Either way, we're basically going to have to use some slight wiggle room. I've put the two options in the square brackets for each day: first option is adding 5 days, second option is assuming Gert is joking and it is actually Tuesday. I've also gone back to some previous notes and put "Edit: xyz" if this affects those.

BEJT wrote: It was that line specifically that I found weird, yeah.

True, they haven't had to deal with many major incidents on the West Coast, but obviously they'd be aware of the Battle of New York. But yeah, I think they're just excited as people of science to see aliens up close. If you really want to get into the gritty details of it, it can be argued the default position of a scientist is skepticism. Two isolated incidents like the Chitauri in New York or the Dark Elves in Greenwich doesn't technically pass scientific theory if you want to get technical with how science proves things. Both weren't controlled conditions so from a scientist's point of view, aliens aren't actually proven and verified. It was easier for PRIDE to believe Jonah was just another Tony Stark with trailblazing tech than an exiled alien magistrate stranded on Earth for 5000 years with knowledge of his race's comparatively advanced technology. But yeah, I admit, it's a scene I need to rewatch because I didn't focus in on it like others did here.

BEJT wrote: Ah OK, yes. I'll be interested where they take that in Season 3, assuming Season 3 happens. Not sure if they'll go all the way to coming up with a convoluted explanation about her being the same Tina, but it'll be fun to have more Doctor Strange tie-in nonetheless.

I'm glad the staff is magic and not just science like they sort of said in Season 1, though. There's no way science is capable of doing the things that staff did in Season 2, and it's just more fun. Agreed. It will be interesting to see how they explore that, moreso now that Tina is possessed and the Gibborim has no issue with spilling Tina's secrets. lol.

BEJT wrote: Thanks. I feel like people shouldn't need telling at this point that the Snap isn't happening on any TV at least pre-April 2019, but I guess it was worth them mentioning. I wouldn't take that as an actual timeline confirmation that it's set before Infinity War because that's not what they say (just that it won't be shown), but obviously we have the blanket confirmation from Loeb anyway. This should be one of the last pieces of MCU television before Endgame, though it's possible that Cloak & Dagger: Season 2, which starts in "spring", could start before Endgame.

I saw an article talking about how Frank has been wandering the country since Season 1 that made it sound like some time will have passed, which is good. Agreed, it's just a start for beginning to brainstorm the timeline of the season before the episodes drop.

BEJT wrote: I've started to purchase those new original story canon books - Marvel's Avengers: Infinity War: The Heroes' Journey, Marvel's Avengers: Infinity War: The Cosmic Quest Volume One: Beginning, Marvel's Ant-Man and the Wasp: The Heroes' Journey, and Marvel's Avengers: Infinity War: The Cosmic Quest Volume Two: Aftermath. Marvel's Ant-Man and the Wasp: The Heroes' Journey has already arrived and the others I think are coming soon. So I'll have a read of those soon and let you guys know what I find, but just from having a very quick skim through Marvel's Ant-Man and the Wasp: The Heroes' Journey, it seems to be set in the days leading into Ant-Man and the Wasp - the last couple of chapters seem to be the beginning of that film. Just curious, but has Marvel Studios said on the record these books are canon?

BEJT wrote: Anyway, this is further confirmation that The Punisher is set in late 2016 and not late 2017. It would appear that Frank was sentenced on February 4, 2017 for violating a law (specifically the 2017 edition) and a presidential proclamation (one which had been made on January 14, 2016), so after the events of The Punisher: Season 1 (this reaffirms that it's late 2016 because it can't have happened during the prologue of 3AM, which it would have if The Punisher: Season 1 were set in late 2017). And while he was sentenced to 18 months, the President has now sent him a pardon on March 1, 2018 (but Frank is burning it). Great analysis. Thanks for getting that up so quick.

BEJT wrote: So that tells us: As a refresher, what was the Lewis Wilson mistake? But overall, that's a relief we already got some solid dates off the bat with this new teaser.
 * Yes, again, despite the Lewis Wilson mistake, The Punisher: Season 1 is set in late 2016, which we already knew but it's good to see Marvel also know.
 * This season will likely be starting in early March 2018, roughly as I'd guessed.