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DarkRobin wrote: The movie was great overall. But it wasn't a Captain America movie, it was more like Avengers 2.5 as it was more about Avengers clashing with each other over disagreements than a story centered around Captain America. It was a bit disappointing that Steve didn't seem to feel much of remorse for innocent lives lost related to Avengers' activities and he is supposed to be the "moral one." Yet it is Tony Stark that pointed out they have to be put in check.

Also, they once again did a Marvel villain injustice, like in Iron Man 3, The Mandrain wasn't who he should be, neither was Zemo in this movie. Steve definitely felt remorse, he looked and sounded sickened when the explosion happened in Lagos when he called for emergency assistance and his expression watching the news reports also showed this. But this event is actually the only one that can even remotely be laid at the Avengers' feet(though really just Tony, the other Avengers were simply trying to clean up his mistake, a mistake which happened precisely because Tony decided he didn't want the other Avengers' "oversight" because he knew they'd say "Tony No" and he was like "Tony Yes", he wants oversight now because he feels guilty but what about next time he decides he has a great idea?  He broke the Accords already before the end of this film).

The Avengers saved millions of lives in the other situations. It wasn't the Avengers fault Thanos and Loki came after the Tesseract and invaded NYC but they saved not only the planet from subjugation but millions of people in Manhatten that the World Security Council was going to nuke to stop the alien invasion and during the invasion itself Steve's whole plan of battle was basically keeping the attack as focused on the Avengers as possible and getting the people down into the basements and subway tunnels and as far away from the danger as they could. Steve, Nat and Sam saved the millions of people who were going to murdered by the Helicarriers as soon as they became operative. Even in Sokovia the Avengers with Fury's help saved tens of thousands of people in Sokovia when Ultron lifted the city and was going to drop it, in fact their whole main focus initially was saving the people. If you look at the civilian casualty numbers Thaddeus Ross(who by the way is responsible for the Hulk "breaking Harlem" and the Hulk himself in Hulk's solo movie because he is not a good guy) showed, considering the magnitude of the situations that were being faced the Avengers did a magnificent job of keeping civilian casualties low which shows the amount of care they take.

Even Lagos is Crossbones fault most of all - it was in no way predictable Crossbones would go suicide bomber yet that's what he did and in doing so he would have killed everyone around him,  In trying to move his explosion away from the people in the square, Wanda lost control of it and it hit the building instead but she didn't cause the explosion, Cap didn't cause the explosion, the explosion right there was not something they could be expected to remotely to predict. Crossbones explosion was going to kill people, Wanda tried to clear it from the population and failed so rather than people in the square being killed people in the building were killed. Different people died because Wanda couldn't control the explosion but people were going to be killed either way.

Steve's team also saved thousands, possibly millions of lives by getting the biological weapon away from Crossbones' people.