Thread:BEJT/@comment-27496405-20170830154244/@comment-26838855-20170910143504

Berckley wrote: I was rewatching Iron Man 3 and found this 23.09.2013 newspaper for the first time and I lost all the hope. TV and movie sides are just too different to match. Killian also mentions he invited tony to join AIM 13 years ago and if you count that exactly December 2013. In Winter Soldier prop stated it was happening October 2013, so I think it was planned that fall of SHIELD would be before IM3, that's why there was no SHIELD in movie (I made this suggestion years ago).

BUT... in Agents of SHIELD they KNOW about extremis and IM3 events and then fall of SHIELD happens. It's completly messed up. Basically main issue there is matching TV dates with movies, because they're so screwed up. We have to ignore prop and Killians dialogue in movie to match it with AoS. It just doesn't work for me anymore. This one is too big for me, I either have to ignore those, or AoS just doesn't make any sense. TV and movies are just unmatchable I think you meant December 23, 2013. But yeah, there's also the bit where Tony calls up information on Chad Davis, and it says "02.31.2013"... February 31, 2013, right... Yeah, dialogue takes precedence. Dialogue is crafted and created, props can be arbitrary, random, or only half-thought-through (the premiere of Agent Carter says it is late April 1946, then it is late June 1946 and that Colleen was born on May 23, 1922 and died aged 24, but then in Episode 5, several days later it is said that April 27th is "less than 2 days from now" and Episode 8 says it is the 1-year anniversary of V-E Day, on "May 8th". Obviously that takes precedence).

And the many mentions of 13 years place it in December 2012 (December 31, 1999 + 13 years = December 2012, as well as Tony saying he would have a 12-year-old kid with Maya, as the child would have been born around September 2000), which lines up with it being roughly 6 (7) months after The Avengers and it being before Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.: Season 1.

I don't think it was planned for Winter Soldier to be after Iron Man 3 at all, it's just mistakes. Statements from crew before the films have said that Iron Man 3 is 6 months after The Avengers and Winter Soldier is 2 years after. And things like them saying in Who You Really Are that Yes Men was "last year" mean that Winter Soldier has to be in 2014.