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Iron Fist: Season 2 Sokovia Reference (Mrmichaelt + a note of my own)
Mrmichaelt wrote: Say no more. The Netflix shows are my guilty pleasure but everything else MCU, I stay away from spoilers before I watch. I've finished Episode 8 now, although I'm really frustrated because I lost all my notes, which I'd done for the first several episodes, when my laptop decided to do a software update. So I have quite a bit of rewatching, again, to do before I finish the season. Luckily, I'm working through it faster having done it before - I've redone my notes up to Episode 4. Got to rewatch the next 4 and then finally I'll finish the season. As soon as Marvelous has replied and the conversation here dies down a little bit, I'll post them so they're safely up.

Anyway, yes, I've seen the stuff about Mary in Sokovia now. Interesting, I wonder if they'll resolve it in the last 2 episodes.

Cloak & Dagger: Season 1 Placement (Mrmichaelt)
Mrmichaelt wrote: I agree, C&D fits in 2017. Hopefully season 2 doesn't throw a curve ball with the timeline... that and Runaways season 2. The fact that the latter take place the next day is concerning -- unless that's fake out... like the first scene is the day after the season 1 finale, then after the title sequence, they do a time skip x months later. I'm not too worried about it being the next day, so long as they don't do the classic, "It's shortly after the last instalment except that was present day and now so is this one, it's OK, no one will notice," which happens all too often.

Iron Fist: Season 2 Placement (Mrmichaelt, Marvelous 345678, Maurice.136)
Mrmichaelt wrote: Another thing to cement Iron Fist season 2 is before the Snap. Raven Metzner confirmed it via Tweet. Marvelous 345678 wrote: Damn @Mrmichaelt, I was going to comment just the same thing. Iron Fist confirmed to be BEFORE Infinity War. Nice. Glad to have explicit, direct confirmation.

Maurice.136 wrote: Well it obviously has to be before the Infinity War, if not they'd have to include the Snap. Not necessarily, because it's very possible that after Avengers 4, the world will be returned to normal and never know anything happened, meaning things could be taking place after Infinity War without us realising it. But the evidence points to Iron Fist: Season 2 being a few months before Infinity War anyway, so it's all fine.

Fury and Coulson
Mrmichaelt wrote: It's a bit concerning some sights are reporting Captain Marvel is when Coulson and Fury meet. Hopefully they're misquoting since AOS "Providence" already revealed Fury recruited him when he was just out of high school in 1982. I forgot about that, thanks (my time on the wiki started during Season 2 so I'm not particularly good on Season 1's timeline stuff. Probably my weakest area in the MCU in terms of knowing the ins and outs of the timeline).

I thought the only reference to high school was in the Framework, where Coulson said he was approached after high school and said no, and it was just highly implied that the same happened in the real world except he said yes. So when I mentioned this before, when they mentioned that Coulson is new at S.H.I.E.L.D., I thought, "Worst comes to the worst, we can assume Fury just approached him earlier in the Framework than in the real world." But no, as you point out, they did specifically say it in Providence.

Hopefully if there is a problem, there will be a loophole that can be used to explain things away.

Marvelous 345678 wrote: Yes, I saw those info regarding Coulson and Fury. Hopefully not. That would be sad.

BEJT, I will answer your long message soon. Don't have the time. Mrmichaelt wrote: Hopefully it's more along the lines of the first time Coulson has seen Fury since he was recruited and went to SHIELD Academy... Hopefully, so long as there's some sort of loophole it'll be alright.

Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote: Some people are justifying this on Reddit by saying that maybe Fury, as a desk jockey, monitors people who could be potential assets for SHIELD, and sent a letter or a random agent to recruit Coulson, and they also justify them not meeting in person until the 1990's as "Coulson went to and finished college on SHIELD's dime, then went to the academy for a few years, then has been a trainee for a year or two and is now within Fury's circle of influence".

Seems like a lot of reaching to me, but there's also a common belief that since Clark Gregg is so passionate about Agents of SHIELD, he made sure the movie wouldn't contradict anything from the show. I don't believe that's true (I believe in his passion for the show, but not that he'd become a Continuity Consultant on the movie), though I would very much like to. Especially since there should be somebody from Marvel double checking the script to make sure there's no contradictions, considering the TV side has someone from Studios constantly checking their scripts to make sure all references are appropriate, as said by both Loeb and multiple showrunners, including Metzner.

But we'll see. Wouldn't be the first time or the last time the movies ignored information established by Agents of SHIELD. That could maybe work. I'm glad people on Reddit have noticed.

And I agree, Gregg would probably step in - that's why I wasn't worried when people said "What if he encounters the Kree in the '90s?" - that's too major a thing for Gregg to let slide. Although I do wonder if this detail might be small enough to slip through. Still, hopefully it's all OK.

That's nice information to know, about the checking of the scripts. I wasn't aware of that.

Marvelous 345678 wrote: The movies have never ignored information from AoS, they just not acknowledge it completely. You're kind of both right, I feel. Apart from some timeline details that don't line up, they haven't outright contradicted each other before (that I can think of, anyway). But there is a general sense that they wouldn't feel shackled by the shows if they did have to make a small contradiction.

Mrmichaelt wrote: Wasn't Fury both Coulson and Garrett's S.O.? Unless I'm misremembering, graduates of SHIELD Academy get an S.O. or was there a gap between being an agent and training to become a special agent... Not sure if anything was confirmed about who was whose S.O..