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Far from Home and Endgame in Relation to It (Mrmichaelt, DaenerysTheMadKhal58)
Mrmichaelt wrote: Hmm, the only other place I remember the passport shot is on the Bluray home menu. They cycle through images and that passport shot comes up but it's the same version from the trailer. OK thanks, that's still another source.

Mrmichaelt wrote: Yeah, I think the events of the Snap stretching out the school year is a good out. They go to the effort of pointing out how they had to start their year over again even though they finished midterms so it your theory seems correct implicitly. It's not necessarily the canon explanation or something, I'm more just suggesting that I feel the Snap and Blip disruption is so monumental that there's probably wiggle room for it being those dates. Would like to hear anyone else's input.

Mrmichaelt wrote: Ha ha, that's what I thought as I read this, "Hard to say until he looks at how would the adjustment affect the 2023 parts of Endgame." It doesn't particularly cause a problem, it just feels like November is less than ideal, but oh well. I've checked and with the full moons, the full moon in Kenya (near Wakanda) would be November 27, 2023 12:16 local time, so the closest night is November 27, 2023 evening, making that day November 27, 2023 U.S. time. So it would be essentially moving everything about 30 days forward (slightly more complicated when it comes to Peter and Ned returning to school because that has to be a school day but I can work that out properly if we decide to go ahead).

I've also checked and there's no clash with Thanksgiving, which would be November 23rd in 2023 so just fall during the end montage rather than like on the day of any big events and weirdly not mentioned.

DaenerysTheMadKhal58 wrote: Changing the FFH dates to fit all the evidence seems fine, as long as it works with Endgame. Yeah it doesn't not work, it's just a little annoying.

Runaways (Mrmichaelt, Edward Zachary Sunrose)
Mrmichaelt wrote: Oh the humanity. :P I wouldn't be shocked if they break the rules established so far, which - regardless of your exact specific opinion - at least definitely involves the idea that you cannot rewrite time. This show seems to just do its own thing without much regard for the wider MCU and seems to want to function as just a show in its own right that could be appealing to people as a teen drama and without them even necessarily knowing it's part of the MCU, so I feel a little concerned that it might just think it's free to do whatever. Obviously it doesn't help that this was written before Endgame came out, though they did still already have Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. for reference.

Mrmichaelt wrote: Interesting. Hopefully they do pick up shortly after, and don't do any significant time skips after episode 1 or during the season. That and C&D's appearance are the two timeline aspects that I hope don't become problems. Agreed. They've got a 4-month window to tell this story.

Cloak and Dagger's arrival seems to all be lining up so far, so let's hope...

Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote: And yes, I also internally screamed my lungs out when they confirmed time travel for Runaways Season 3. If they keep the rules consistent with Endgame, then people will continue to say SHIELD is an alternate timeline. If they keep the rules consistent with AoS, then people will continue to say Cap is in a time loop. And no one wants either of these arguments to be reopened. (I shared your post on why AoS7 is still in the MCU and people still tried to argue it had to have split somewhere.) It's truly a catch-22; damned if we do, damned if we don't.

But we did dodge a huge bullet for the timeline. Apparently for Season 3, they wanted an Agents of SHIELD crossover as well, with the Agents investigating the Gibborim spaceship. But the filming schedule for Season 7 was so hectic that none of the actors could cross over. So that could've potentially uprooted the entire timeline.

But also it would've been so epic, because if they did keep the continuity intact, Daisy and the others would have every reason to believe that light-based aliens and their exploding ship are in fact the light from the sky prophesised to bring about the beginning of the end. I assume you mean Season 6 still in the MCU? Thanks for using it, it's a shame people still can't accept it.

With Runaways doing time travel, for me it's more of just an eye-roll. "Here we go again." But I don't think, at least on the wiki, it should spur too much more debate, since I reckon it will more just be another small piece in the already large puzzle rather than a game-changer, and there does seem to be some difference between the effects of different methods of time travel anyway.

I saw about the attempted crossover, and I agree. It could've been cool, but it could also have been a massive pain and maybe we're better off without it.

If they had done it in Runaways: Season 2 then, with it filming/coming out after Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.: Season 5 then they might have, for simplicity's sake, just gone "It's set after the last time you saw the agents" and that would've been a problem because, not only does it not line up with the Runaways dates, but it would also make Runaways post-Infinity War with Season 5 ending with Infinity War.

If they had done it in Season 3, obviously it couldn't be post-Season 6 but they would probably have, to get it as close as possible, made it set shortly before Season 6. So again a problem, even further from the comfortable dates and again, after Infinity War.

If they had got the timeline right, setting it between Season 5, Episodes 13 and 14, it would've also been weird, since the agents can't really leave the Lighthouse in that time (and it is said that the diner is the last time they're seen together in the dystopian timeline so they can't really be publicly seen together again after May 2017 until May 2018) and Coulson would still be alive so either you would have an odd moment of Clark Gregg playing Coulson again post-death or he would oddly have not come with them.

Mrmichaelt wrote: Yeah, if they did their homework (shrug probably not) with the two show's timelines and canon, that would have been epic indeed. Love your idea, that would have been awesome. But I'm all the more curious if there is a Season 4, they wouldn't have that production problem (other than all the actors taking on new projects and being busy) but given what's happening behind the scenes supposedly -- who knows if a Season 4 is possible. I wonder if I'd want the agents to show up in something like Runaways post-Season 7. Because while I really want them to stay around in the MCU, I also am not sure that, if the show has a really strong and resolute ending, having them pop up just for a small fun appearance would be worth it for making the end of Season 7 no longer the resolution. It feels like you might need something a bit bigger to be worth it.

Anyway yeah, I wouldn't get my hopes up for Season 4.

Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote: The show will probably end with Season 3 judging by Marvel TV's current situation.

But also, even if they were able to schedule in a Season 4 and do an AoS crossover, they'd still need to set it in early 2018 unless we get a time skip, and I doubt they'll do that since they'd have to snap half of the cast. It sucks that these shows could get cancelled outside of their own merits, it's not fair on them. I don't love Runaways, I think it's fine, but I'm rooting for anything Marvel Television these days to keep going.

I agree, I doubt these existing shows will ever address the Snap. They seem very comfortable just throwing out the "It's set before the Snap" excuse.

Peter Parker After Far from Home (DaenerysTheMadKhal58)
DaenerysTheMadKhal58 wrote: Is it confirmed that Peter is a fugitive after FFH? Evidence has been publicly put out there that he's, seemingly, the person who killed Mysterio, not only a murder but a murder of a supposed public hero, and then also outed as being Peter Parker, so that was how I saw it - Spider-Man is a wanted fugitive, and Peter Parker has been outed as Spider-Man so he doesn't have that option, "Stop being Spider-Man", either. Peter Parker is wanted for murder.