Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-2054358-20150809032033/@comment-26095292-20160120205005

Zippertrain85 wrote:

Greater good wrote: To be honest, I don't think the concept of mutants fits into the established MCU. It just doesn't make sense for them to have characters like Iron Man and Captain America be celebrated and glorified while the X-Men would be met with fear, hatred and bigotry.

Like you said, I like the X-Men movies for the most part. So, as long as Fox continue to put out quality movies, I say let them keep the rights and continue to build that universe (which they can, since the X-Men rights package contains literally hundreds of characters). On the other hand, Marvel should definitely get the Fantastic Four back, since Fox have made three attempts at that and screwed up all three times.

One more thing, it being in the MCU wouldn't guarantee that it would be good. I didn't like Iron Man 2 or the first season of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.. Hell, I'm kind of worried about the new Spider-Man movie, since it's being written by the same guys who made that godawful Vacation movie that came out last year. Ah, the classic "Mutants are hated, heroes are not" argument. I don't think that's a huge contradiction actually, since heroes like The Avengers and whatnot don't really have "Mutant" abilities. Iron Man is just a guy in a suit, Captain America is just a peak human, same with Black Widow & Hawkeye. Thor is more an alien than anything, and you can apply this logic to most of the MCU's "respected" heroes. The more mutant ones like The Hulk or Spider-Man seem to have very similar distrust/hatred against them. The X-Men actually in the Comics, were originally a superhero team because they thought doing good deeds would raise support for Mutants as a species. So, maybe it has to do with being a hero or not. Anywho, the contradiction will still exist in the MCU regardless of the X-Men or not, just in the form of Inhumans.

This reason, I kind of get. Though, I think they could make good movies you do have a point it isn't exactly risk free. There is a chance the X-Men could be messed up if the MCU and Fox are both trying to make any further installments with them, and if the movies are good, why shake the boat? It's a valid point you made. We will have to see how Spider-Man does in the MCU to really know how they handle sharing popular Superheroes with other studios. If they can't make him Spider-Man, that will just give your argument that much more validity. Actually the reason why the Avengers aren't hated because Cap is a war hero gives them good publicity, they are known in the MCU all of their idenities, Spider-Man get's less hate because of pity he's a lone superhero, a teenager that doesn't work with anybody, and he has this innocence to him, this lovablity about him that makes him less hated by the Marvel general populace not to mention his jokes, mutants come from the baseline of humans, that is why they are scary normal people are afraid that one day mutants will replace them, that one day their will be no more regular humans and everyone will have powers and remember what Hank Pym said if you give godlike powers to everyone it's going to be Chaos, I should also point out that unlike the Inhumans mutants don't have a control over when they get their powers, in the Inhuman society people get their powers through terrigen but they are very specfic on who can go through the mist, so even though someone might be of the Inhuman lineage they may never go through the mist effectively making them regular humans, mutants apart from Pietro and Wanda don't need an  activator for their powers while their are some cases that happens remember mutation is random, just like unlocking an Inhumans gene you never know what you get sometimes the X-Gene itself never activates and needs a push, but most X-Gene's activate when the holder of these genes is in puberty like 10-14, while some like Pietro and Wanda even in the comics I believe they were close to their adult years when their X-Gene's activated, in the MCU it can be done like this  that their X-Gene's are on the low end of the spectrum they are their but they need to be activated by some sort of radiation like the Scepter