Thread:Marvelus/@comment-27496405-20190519011243/@comment-26838855-20190623035729

This discussion is so active at the moment, wow. It's really hard to keep on top of it. Hopefully once Jessica Jones is finalised and then with the several-month MCU break soon, it will calm down a bit.

Jessica Jones: Season 3 (DaenerysTheMadKhal58, Marvelus, Mrmichaelt, Greater good, Aricco, Protego Maxima, Rman823, Nox23, The Wikia Editor)
DaenerysTheMadKhal58 wrote: The ending of the season was really good, I just wish it wasn't the end of the show. The reason being that the central characters (Jessica, Trish, Malcolm, Jeryn) all [REDACTED]. JJ is my favorite MCU show, so [REDACTED] :) Marvelus wrote: They definitely do not end in a bad place. All the contrary, it is what the characters deserved and what they story arc have been building up to this point. Also, try to be not do spoilerish next time please :) @DaenerysTheMadKhal58

@Edward, you think Berry was trans? I thought that Kith was it, she and Gillian xD. Don't judge me. Just my perception.

@BEJT I really agree with you about Vido. He is one of the few young characters that I can really stand xD. Other kids I just want to kick in and PUM. I feel like we're getting here a bit into what Edward Zachary Sunrose was trying to avoid, which was trans speculation, which just generally isn't particularly great. But no, Kith is not transgender, and neither is Berry I don't believe.

Marvelus wrote: Jessica Jones S3 is wow. Amazing. Loved. It takes the bedt out of Season 1 and 2 of JJ. And let me tell you, you shouldn't judge by the trailer. Jessica does not begin again at a low point. There is still the chsracter development that she went through S2. Timeline wise, if Spring 2018 is due to be, so be it but I totally like the idea of being Post Snap. It is like the feeling: "Yeah. There is more story to focus in the MCU" There's still some of the character development, but not her learning to get a healthy life.

But, at least judging from the nine episodes I've seen, it's better than Season 2.

I don't really understand how you could like the idea of it being post-Snap.

DaenerysTheMadKhal58 wrote: I'm not saying all those things shouldn't have happened, I just think it needs a continuation. And I'm pretty sure the season was written with the expectation of a fourth one.

Sorry, do you want me to redact my comment? Marvelus wrote: Hmm I really doubt Jessica has more storyline. Also the showrunner was stepping down if the show if it ad continued. She did an outstanding job with the show.

Hmm. I don't know. If you feel something can spoil a certain user you can. Thank you for redacting. On top of the delays I already mentioned, I then got ill this week and that delayed me again. I've watched the first nine episodes and rewatched the first eight, but will be finally finishing the show in the next 24 hours, all being well. Then will also be able to watch the last two episodes of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. on Monday and Tuesday and finally be back up-to-date and then properly tart my summer's work on this wiki.

Mrmichaelt wrote: Well, I always thought the Netflix shows aren't about happy endings, mostly just the slimmest glimmer of hope - some not even - just bittersweet. But now you all got me curious, what are you thinking - like one more end tag with a time skip (i.e. Jessica punching out a purse snatcher and mumbling "you're welcome" and walking away without acknowledging the victim)? Greater good wrote: For those of you wondering up above, Aneesh Sheth (Gillian) is trans. Sarita Choudhury (Kith) and Jamie Neumann (Berry) are not:

https://inews.co.uk/culture/television/marvels-jessica-jones-aneesh-sheth-interview-netflix-not-about-trans-narrative/ Thank you for finishing that bit of discussion off.

Aricco wrote: I don't know if this is helpful but maybe in Jessica Jones they were referring to Mother's Day in a different country? On Wikipedia some countries celebrate it August, September, December, January. Most seem to celebrate it between March & May.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother%27s_Day#By_country_(A–G) Yeah, we celebrate Mother's Day in March here. But it's a U.S. show (they do mention it's broadcast in a lot of other countries as well but it's primarily aimed at the U.S.), I don't think there's much we can do.

There's the email in Episode 1 and the line in Episode 2 suggesting it's spring, but the November placement from the Mother's Day line is very hard to ignore (plus they say April 2001 was "18 years ago" which works better as November 2018 than May). There's sort of a question here of "What takes priority: Placing it as best fits the more specific/hard evidence, the way it would be without the external factor - or making big assumptions but justifying it with the fact that if you take into account the external factors, you are going for the option with less assumption?"

I'm thinking at the moment that the deciding factor might be if someone makes a pre-Snap comment or not. Loeb hasn't said anything yet. So the answer might be, "At the moment it's looking like November 2018, but if we're told it's pre-Snap then we have enough to place it around April-May."

Marvelus wrote: About Mother's Day, that is a bit of a stretch. I don't know if that solution could work. Aricco wrote: Yea, honestly I never noticed who mentioned Mother's Day was 6 months away, I just seen people mention it on here. Do you know who said it? What was the context? If it was a stranger or a character we know little about we could potentially make assumptions to fit it where we need. If it was a white American this will restrict the possibility, if it was someone with an ethnic background from somewhere other than Europe then again we may be able to make it work. Also, some people (like my father) say 6 months or half a year when really they don't mean that at all, just just mean it's not at this time of the year so instead of doing the quick math they just say it's 6 months away. But, I also understand just taking it as American Mother's Day literally being 6 months away. It's Grace on Trish's show. Trish is bringing Dorothy on and uses the excuse of it being a special event for Mother's Day, and Grace points out that's 6 months away. Trish also doesn't reject this, just continuing to make up her excuse on the spot, saying it allows more time to buy a gift.

It's an annoying line because it's not even particularly necessary, and it's clearly such a throwaway line that they didn't know would have such huge ramifications.

I agree 6 months doesn't have to mean exactly 6 months, but it can't mean 11-12.

Protego Maxima wrote: About Jessica Jones Season 3 (which I haven't finished yet, but not minding spoilers) and the Mother's Day thing: My suggestion for Season 3 is January 2018. Reasons are;

- It would set after Luke Cage S2, Iron Fist S2 and Daredevil S3, which fits with Netflix's possible chronogical intention. (Only exception is Punisher Season 2)

- Well, this is kind of a stretch. There would be 4 months left to Mother's day, not 6. But if we say that; they thought May as a mid-year month, and since they are at the beginning month of the year (January), it would roughly fit. Also, the word "6 months" has always been a shortcut for rounding.

- If I remember correctly, you guys placed Season 2 on May 2017. Well, again a little bit stretch: This kinda fits with Trish's line "past year". There would be 8 months since Season 2's ending, but also calender year has changed. Not a terrible idea. 4 months to Mother's Day wouldn't be the end of the world and it works well enough as a year since Season 2, as well as being 2018 (Episode 8 also mentions that Season 2 was "last year" so it's definitely 2018), and the football game. The awkward thing would be that it doesn't match any specific evidence (the specifics point to May or November). But I'm certainly not dismissing this idea outright.

Rman823 wrote: Even without the Mother's Day line, There's a football game playing as well as a pumpkin sticker in the background. I believe they intended for the season to be Fall 2018 and the Mother's Day line shows this. I don't think so, not with the two spring pieces of evidence. I think there just isn't much intention to the placement, and some of the stuff you mention here is more just background due to time of filming and then wanting the joke of it being as far as possible from Mother's Day (6 months after and 6 months before). I think they've just gone "It's about a year after Season 2" and then the rest of the evidence is mostly just the way things landed.

Marvelus wrote: Yeah... I wouldn't take the football game too much into consideration. It's worth considering but it's not make or break. I don't think the pumpkin sticker is particularly significant though.

Nox23 wrote: If you're taking football games into consideration, there's trouble considering Robbie Reyes mentioning an NFL game in what's supposed to be April. Better off not lol Lol I don't remember that.

The Wikia Editor wrote: I've only watched the first episode of JJ: Season 3 so far, but I went and checked the transcripts to see where the Mother's Day line was said. It's from Episode 8, when Trish is doing a promotion. Here's the transcript:


 * Trish: "Now, I have a surprise for you today. A very special guest host in honor of Mother's Day."
 * Grace: "Mother's Day is six months away."
 * Trish: "Giving us plenty of time to shop for that perfect Mother's Day gift, Grace."

If taken at face value, it places the events of the Season in November 2018, at least from Episode 8 onwards. Thank you for posting the full quote.

The Wikia Editor wrote: January doesn't really work due to the fact that most of the evidence places the Season around Spring at the earliest (i.e. somewhere between 20 March and 21 June) and November at the latest. Yeah exactly, but also it's not necessarily a worse idea than May (which is what I would go with, maintaining the chronological order and being as close as possible to a year post-Season 2 while pre-Snap) or November.

The Wikia Editor wrote: I agree that we shouldn't put too much stock into it, but it's still a potential timeline indicator and should still be noted, even if it's only for the sake of thoroughness. I completely agree with this.

Other Netflix (Marvelus, LoreMaster22, Nox23)
Marvelus wrote: But I strongly disagree with A New Napkin. It was the best season finale I have ever seen with AKA Everything and Luke Cage S2 E13. Those three (Daredevil the first) are freaking amazing. I loved every godamn second of A New Napkin. I screamed, I cried, I applauded, it was full of excitement I think you don't like it due to Kingpin and Daredevil's last scene. Let me tell you thst is taking comic accuracy to a whole other level and brings more complexity to the characters. That scene was really epic. Charlie Cox was a beast!!!!

Also I really loved S2 of Luke Cage, I didn't get bored like I did in S1. It was cool and Black Mariah became of my favourite MCU villains ever. I don't remember if I discussed my problems with A New Napkin on here at the time, but I just think the show copped out. You've spent the whole season building up the fact that Fisk cannot be stopped while he's still alive, and you're revisiting the same journey Matt went on in Season 1: "Should I break my moral code to kill Fisk?" To justify treading the same ground, you need to show a difference this time, but no, it's essentially the same ending - Matt decides he's going to better than killing Fisk and gets him arrested.

And no, I did not want Matt to kill Fisk. But there were ways of resolving that thread that didn't involve just doing the same thing as Season 1. Have Matt struggle and make the decision eventually to not kill Fisk, only for Bullseye to end up killing him and Matt is left nonetheless somewhat responsible since he let Bullseye in. Have Matt struggle and make the decision eventually to not kill Fisk, only for a sudden crack of a gun and blood splatters on Matt's hands, he looks around and Karen has shot Fisk from the door, having run upstairs to make sure Matt's soul wasn't corrupted and save him, already having deaths on her conscience anyway (also satisfyingly tying in with the threads about the death's on Karen's conscience), and Matt blames himself because his words caused Karen to do this.

I love Kingpin as much as the next person, but the character had run his course and the whole point of the season was how you can't stop him even in prison. In ways such as the ones I just mentioned, you resolve both that Fisk thread and Matt's arc in a bittersweet way while also introducing new angles to take Matt and the show in (which unfortunately it wouldn't get to do, not getting a Season 4 - but we didn't know that at the time and neither did the show). But nah, just prison again.

I also don't like happy endings, lol. The ending was too sweet and lovely and perfect for everyone.

Anyway yeah, I don't know why Luke Cage has come up here but as always, I think Season 2 is really good but I also think Season 1 is strong as well and don't personally understand how people find it boring when every time I've seen it I find it's so full of life and character.

Marvelus wrote: I haven't really catched uo with your replies. I remembered I checked every day your notes in S3 of Daredevil and Iron Fist S2 but then you stopped editing and I lost track. But I will read again S3 of JJ. Interesting to see how you put the nail in the coffin. I didn't stop editing those two. I'm currently working on them, still. They just got put on pause, especially coming out so close together. It was a hectic time. I have a massive pile of to-do, I'm trying.

Also the phrase "final nail in the coffin" isn't about making a decision, it's about when you have a mountain of evidence for something and then one big final thing comes in just to wipe out any last smidgen of doubt.

LoreMaster22 wrote: Do you think that in the end Marvel disrepect the Netflix characters? No.

Marvelus wrote: No. Iron Fist could have been better, they could have made the character different as he does not match with the "dark corner". He should have been the Spider-Man of The Defenders. Nox23 wrote: Where do the two Iron Fist "Months later" scenes in 210 go, approximately? Between Runaways and Punisher? Yeah, roughly March 2018 was decided.

Moderator Privileges (Marvelus)
Marvelus wrote: I didn't know I had privileges xD. I already deleted your thread, as requested. And you're welcome. You truly deserve a promotion. Also, you can now have more voice in the important decision and could edit the Timeline page :p (kidding) Thank you, and thank you so much for the nomination. I'm happy about my promotion.

Bringing in Other Canon (The Wikia Editor, ProBot1227, Marvelus, Edward Zachary Sunrose, LoreMaster22, Nox23, DaenerysTheMadKhal58)
The Wikia Editor wrote: Agreed, though I wouldn't mind some kind of cameo as a nod to the fans, maybe as Blade's biological father in a flashback or something. Sure, fine with the actor appearing, just not as the same character.

ProBot1227 wrote: Am I the only one with the opinion that Blade being retconed into the MCU would be awesome? No need to introduce the character, and you already have 3 movies, 1 comic and 12 Episodes (albeit a different actor) of character development. You can easily find a situation for him to be in that would be appropriate and just have him before cool.

The MCU would have introduced Vampires and how they operate, and now they can build from there.

I don't know, maybe I'm crazy. Marvelus wrote: I would rather not to merge any Marvl saga with the MCU. They have to introduce their own thing. With Marvelus on this. ProBot1227 is aware, but there's a discussion on this at the moment, where people can find my thoughts in full.

Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote: God, keep every previous movie continuity AWAY. It's bad enough that we have to juggle three different groupings of TV shows, each one with their own separate continuity within the main continuity given by the films. We don't need to reconcile more movies into the mix.

The only exception in my opinion is Deadpool. Because he's just his own thing. Not to mention, if need be, they could easily have Wade and Vanessa jump to the MCU in the opening scenes of Deadpool 3, making the last 2 Deadpool movies irrelevant anyways. I wouldn't even agree with Deadpool, because bringing him in also ties the films to the Fox X-Men universe. I wouldn't want to lose Ryan Reynolds, but the answer for me would then just be to keep Deadpool going as a separate thing and not bring him into the MCU, I don't think he'd fit anyway.

If you really want to bring him into the MCU and still want Reynolds, you can reboot the character but just make him a character who looks exactly like the X-Men films one and has a very very similar history. But that would inevitably get confusing for casual audiences.

ProBot1227 wrote: I'm guessing you don't like Kevin Fiege saying a Spider-Man/Venom crossover is likely, huh? fair enough.

...Damn me, but i think that would be awesome. Hated hearing that. Thought when Venom came out and had no Tom Holland that we might be safe.

Interestingly, I've seen some people interpret it from a different angle - that he is at least saying Venom will never appear in a Marvel Studios film. Just that unfortunately, there's a chance Spider-Man could appear in a Venom film.

I pray it never happens.

Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote: Likely doesn't mean guaranteed. And god, that movie sucked so bad. I'm crossing my fingers that he meant an MCU version of Venom. LoreMaster22 wrote: Yeah I would not mind Venom coming into the MCU. Now Carnage on the other hand would be cool as well. The character of Venom in the MCU, sure. The 2018 film Venom in the MCU, no.

Marvelus wrote: Venom was the worst movie I saw in 2018. Lol, I still haven't seen it. I hated the trailers and was so against the idea of the film. I heard it wasn't quite as bad as expected if you look at it as stupid fun, but I'm not eager to watch it.

Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote: It certainly didn't win any awards in my book. Tom Hardy being insanely bangable throughout was the only redeeming factor. Wow.

Marvelus wrote: @Edward, what do you mean by "bangable"? Xd I don't understand. Oh dear.

Nox23 wrote: Sounds like he found Tom Hardy capable of banging 😂 something I'm sure Venom agrees with. Sorry if anything I said was a spoiler! Blimey.

LoreMaster22 wrote: The MCU is PG13 so no banging Tell that to Luke and Jessica.

(Also there is one (mild) sex scene in the films, Tony and Christine in Iron Man).

Mrmichaelt wrote: I'm still angry I rented it. :P ProBot1227 wrote: https://youtu.be/6gUA7qEGgo4 Well, it's still technically banging... as he said, boom, boom, boom! Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote: Let's just say, I'd do to him what Evil Simmons did to The Doctor. Yikes. Two episodes behind because I'm still getting through Jessica Jones.
 * GRAPHIC CONTENT WITH LOTS OF MURDER*

Marvelus wrote: I haven't watched the season yet xD DaenerysTheMadKhal58 wrote: I thought Venom (2018) was like, a bad and dumb superhero movie that is fun to watch regardless, like Fantastic Four (2005). I've heard that point of view.

Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote: Ok, how do I say this without being crass? I would let Tom Hardy in "Venom" use me like his own personal pincushion. Oooookay this conversation has very much veered off course.

Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.: Season 6 (The Wikia Editor, Aricco, Marvelus, Protego Maximo, Nox23, Mrmichaelt, Greater good, DaenerysTheMadKhal58)
The Wikia Editor wrote: Not necessarily, the attack happened because of Enoch meddling with the fabric of the universe, which he did when he kidnapped the agents and sent them to the future with the White Monolith in May 2017.

The Chronicoms seem to believe that Enoch's interference was the last straw, so to speak, that resulted in their planet being destroyed. It's never stated or even hinted that the ship's destruction occured during or after the Battle of Chicago.

As unreliable as Enoch's "72 years, 312 days" statement is, it could potentially work if we assume that the attack happened around January or February 2018.

The impression of the timeline that I got looks somethings like this: OK thank you (it's the 73 years 261 days one for the attack).
 * May 2017: Enoch sends the agents (except for Fitz) to the future with the White Monolith, the Chronicoms detect this at some unknown point in time.
 * January-February 2018: The Chronicoms' homeworld is destroyed. Blaming Enoch, they track down his ship and blow it up, although he and Fitz manage to get away.
 * Mid-2019 (give or take): The events of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.: Season 6 occur.

See, there's currently just about a way to make each line work. If you assume the attack happened before the split in the timeline around April (the latest it can be) but not much happened for a month or two and then in the original timeline they got back on track before Fitz was unfrozen, but in this one they didn't. And then if you assume that since Enoch is specifically talking about how long he plans to orbit Jupiter, he's planning either to return to orbit after they finish with the Lighthouse for a few more months, or leaving his larger ship orbiting Jupiter while he leaves on a jumpship for the Lighthouse. It feels very weird to have the scenes not be 314 days apart when that seems so obvious, but yeah, there's just about two individual explanations for each comment at the moment, so long as we don't get a third.

Aricco wrote: AOS 6x05 introduces us to the fact that the chronicoms want to go back in time & save their planet. If they follow through with this, hypothetically this could lead us back to pre-snap, meaning season 6 may be another alternate timeline in which the snap didn't happen, explaining why no reference has been made & why no one on TV seems to have been snapped. This could then set us up for a season 7 in the current (Post-Snap) era. Maybe the show runners used this as a 'get out of jail free card', this season can't be impacted by the snap because it is a different timeline until the writers got to see the end product of Endgame & now they can deal with the aftermath of Infinity War.

Of course this is hypothetical & it would mean that a lot of this season may be made redundant, but if they follow through I would be happy to see season 7 properly explore post-snap earth. We shall see.

Marvelus wrote: About S6, I really think people should stop thinking they are in an alternate universe. The Snap has happened and that is tje definitive answer. However, if the producers and writers decide to pull out a storyline like you tell we will have to see. But as of now, Snap has happened. Aricco wrote: I didn't think AOS S6 is in an alternate reality until I noticed them mention their intentions of travelling to the past to change time again, so I thought if hey follow through this would explain why they have said it is pre-snap when actually it is a year after the snap. Protego Maxima wrote: Well, it actually kinda fits with the name of the 6th season finale. Nox23 wrote: What's everyone's takes on the timeline of Shield 601-605? What I mean is, between the three storylines (1. Earth team, 2. Space team, and 3.Fitz) I feel like some of them could shift chronologically in relation to the other ones. Two very confusing questions based on this:

-The end of Space team's episode 1 story syncs up with the end of Fitz' episode 2 story, with Earth team getting a story spanning both episodes 1 and 2. So does Fitz' story take place when Sarge's crew is still arriving on Earth(episode 1), or does Space team's story take place during Sarge's jewelry store heist and preceding prep (episode 2)?

-The two storylines in episode 5 seem to occur at the same time, unless the Zephyr's space travel takes longer than we think (doubtful; they only had fuel for one "jump" and we've seen that a jump is almost instantaneous)  Going back from here, is it possible that  the stinger from episode 3 (the one Earth scene) actually takes place before that episode, allowing episodes 3 and 4 to occur concurrently and both flow into episode 5 at the same time?

That's as clear as I could get the questions, and it's still very, very jumbled. Apologies, just curiosity striking I am only as far as Episode 4, but you can see the notes on those here for now. I'll let you know after I watch Episodes 5 and 6.

Marvelus wrote: @Nox, don't worry brother. But I cannot tell you, I haven't watched the Season. But BEJT knows of it. Mrmichaelt wrote: "Inescapable" showed us some events from the past, like when Coulson met Fitz and Simmons for the first time, when Fitz and Simmons first became friends at SHIELD Academy, and when Future Fitz's body was returned to the Lighthouse but thankfully nothing in dialogue to contradict anything in the timeline (I recall we had a discussion about Fitz and Simmons at SHIELD Academy before).

@Nox, I can't speak for everyone but personally, I don't draw any conclusions until a season is done because you never know when new info about pass episodes will pop up. Greater good wrote: So in the latest episode of AoS, Simmons got Fitz up to date on a lot of things, such as them getting married, him dying, Coulson dying and them having a grandson. But she didn't bring up a little thing life half the life in the universe getting wiped out, which just further cements how out of touch this all is. To be fair to them on this one, the Snap isn't an Earth-only event so Fitz wouldn't need to be told by Simmons. He would've found out after waking, shortly after the Snap.

The Wikia Editor wrote: To be fair, Fitz probably would have already learned about it since it happened everywhere in the universe. We can easily handwave it away by saying that it was probably mentioned off-screen, but wasn't talked about much since they both already knew about it. Wow, The Wikia Editor and I are in sync.

DaenerysTheMadKhal58 wrote: In Inescapable Jemma did tell Fitz "it was a miracle you survived" and "there was a lot of death", and Mack was relieved to learn that Fitz was alive, so there's that at least. Not intentional references to the snap, but they work, I think. Thanks, I'll take anything like that as I watch the show (like my headcanon about Marcus' husband, until that was debunked).

Deadpooled123 (Deadpooled123, Marvelus)
Deadpooled123 wrote: Have been idle for a while, is it possible if someone could get me up to scratch with the timeline please? Need information on:

- Every MCU film and television show thats after CA: Civil War

I will be appreciative if anyone can provide links if easier. Thanks! Marvelus wrote:
 * -Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. S3 E20-22
 * -Black Panther
 * -Inhumans
 * -Spider-Man: Homecoming
 * -Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.: Slingshot
 * -The Punisher S1
 * -Doctor Strange
 * -Cloak & Dagger S1
 * -Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. S4
 * -Jessica Jones S2
 * -Luke Cage S2
 * -Iron Fist S2
 * -Cloak & Dagger S2
 * -Daredevil S3
 * -Runaways S1
 * -Thor: Ragnarok
 * -Runaways S2
 * -The Punisher S2
 * -Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. S5
 * -Avengers: Infinity War
 * -Ant-Man and the Wasp
 * -Jessica Jones S3
 * -Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. S6
 * -Avengers: Endgame

Obviously this is a generalisation, putting whole seasons in one chunk, but yeah I'd pretty much follow this. Ragnarok should be before Runaways: Season 1, and in my opinion Ant-Man and the Wasp should be before Infinity War (especially since this is a chronological order and not a watch order), but yeah.

Deadpooled123 wrote: I was regarding the above in terms of years Have a look at the 2016, 2017, and 2018 pages. If you still want to know specifics, I can write a message with more detail.

Griff1361 wrote: I was under the impression Ant-Man and the Wasp took place before Infinity War for the most part? It does. Marvelus chooses to watch it after, but chronologically it's before.

Marvelus wrote: @Deadpooled123, that s the way most of the events happen. I don't currently have the time to put the year next to the installment. Sorry. However, you can check in the Timeline pages, or mostly wait until BEJT reaches this conversation as he must have the time to answer properly and politely as he always has us used to.

@Griff1361, yep. You are right my friend, but I would watch it after (personally) that does not mean I am right. We've discussed this before but I would agree it should be watched after it's your first watch through, but chronologically it's objectively majority before Infinity War. I think a chronological order is different from a recommended first viewing order, though, but Marvelus tries to make them the same list.

Discord (Nox23, Marvelus)
Nox23 wrote: You think there's any chance whoever runs the discord for this site would add a #Timeline room to it? Would you guys use it ever? Errr I don't know. I barely use Discord and don't really know how it works.

Marvelus wrote: I don't think so. I don't use Discord. Same, basically. I do have an account but just to talk to friends on voice calls while playing some really basic stuff. I don't really get how it works.